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[Q] Which Moto X ROM?

Having bought a Moto X off eBay that's preloaded with an American Movil build, I'd like to upgrade that to something more current. Assuming I can figure out how to flash it in the first place - haven't had any luck getting a reply to this proposed flashing process yet - what build should I apply given that it's an XT1058 device intended to be used on AT&T's network. I can apply the AT&T ROM, of course, but that reportedly comes with bloatware.
And in an ideal world, I'd get my OTAs from someone other than the carrier; currently America Movil, maybe AT&T in future. Is it possible, for example, to apply the Developer's Edition ROM to an XT1058 device, and if so, would I be likely to be upgraded more quickly? If not, does anyone have any recommended builds that are compatible with AT&T's network that are better than the AT&T ROM?

sogrady said:
Having bought a Moto X off eBay that's preloaded with an American Movil build, I'd like to upgrade that to something more current. Assuming I can figure out how to flash it in the first place - haven't had any luck getting a reply to this proposed flashing process yet - what build should I apply given that it's an XT1058 device intended to be used on AT&T's network. I can apply the AT&T ROM, of course, but that reportedly comes with bloatware.
And in an ideal world, I'd get my OTAs from someone other than the carrier; currently America Movil, maybe AT&T in future. Is it possible, for example, to apply the Developer's Edition ROM to an XT1058 device, and if so, would I be likely to be upgraded more quickly? If not, does anyone have any recommended builds that are compatible with AT&T's network that are better than the AT&T ROM?
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I would suggest unlocking the boot loader, flashing either cwm or twrp recovery and finally flashing superuser. Keep in mind that unlocking the bootlaoder will void your warranty.
The benefit to this route is you will maintain root access, also you can easily flash Roms without the problems that cone along with pwnymymoto and safestrap.
Cm10.2 is around the corner and there's already a T-Mobile ROM that has the camera update included
Sent on my Moto X

sogrady said:
Is it possible, for example, to apply the Developer's Edition ROM to an XT1058 device?
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I would like an answer to this, if anyone knows.
I want to get a colored one through at&t, but I want the developer's edition rom with their OTAs. Kind of like how people are making their carrier HTC One's into google play editions.

aduane said:
I would like an answer to this, if anyone knows.
I want to get a colored one through at&t, but I want the developer's edition rom with their OTAs. Kind of like how people are making their carrier HTC One's into google play editions.
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don't think there is a dev edition rom to my knowledge. I haven't really read much about people saying the dev editions had anything different besides and unlockable bootloader which you don't have so you will only be able to flash roms through Safestrap if you haven't taken any OTA's yet.

While it should have been obvious, it's worth letting people know that the AT&T ROMs disable tethering. Again, most people probably know this, but coming from Nexus devices it hadn't even occurred to me. So if there is a dev edition ROM floating around out there where this isn't disabled by default, I'd love to see it.

sogrady said:
While it should have been obvious, it's worth letting people know that the AT&T ROMs disable tethering. Again, most people probably know this, but coming from Nexus devices it hadn't even occurred to me. So if there is a dev edition ROM floating around out there where this isn't disabled by default, I'd love to see it.
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There is a Dev Edition ROM and it is the exact same ROM as the T-Mobile ROM which is the only Retail ROM.

GSM Developer Edition... Which Roms Etc ?

I am sorry if this question was previously asked/answered as I did review the forums, but couldn't find an answer.
This is my first experience with a Moto X (GSM) Developer Edition, specifically running on ATT.
I am a bit confused by which ROMS, Kernels, etc are ok to use on my device.
I see many ROMS which say VZW, ATT, TMobile but I am not sure which is ok to use.
Should I be looking for only things which have been specifically labeled ATT Dev Edition or will anything for ATT work ?
Sorry for the newbie question, but I haven't dealt with a device with so many flavors which didnt have a dedicated forum.
Thanks!!

On the GSM developer edition you'd want to stick with the tmobile/retail flash images if you're leaving the bootloader locked. If you unlock the bootloader then you can load nearly any image but I'd stick with ones from the XT1053 and XT1058 only. (XT1058 being the model AT&T uses, so you can try AT&T flash images if you like)

Well stay away from the Verizon stuff and you should be fine.
That's why a Verizon dev edition exists.
Most of att stuff work on T-Mobile
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Still no 4.4.2 images to flash?

Or am I missing something? I would've figured they'd be out by now. Do not want custom rom or kernel. Just stock rom and no .2 bootloader.
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@rbiter said:
Or am I missing something? I would've figured they'd be out by now. Do not want custom rom or kernel. Just stock rom and no .2 bootloader.
Sent from my XT1053 using HoFo mobile app.
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can u be more clear??
what rom u need ?
which firmware or carrier?

Stock. Xt1053 unlocked gsm edition.
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@rbiter said:
Stock. Xt1053 unlocked gsm edition.
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Unlocked GSM Edition XT1053 uses the T-Mobile US "retail" rom which is also the same as the GSM Developer Edition... The SBF has been available for some time from -> http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0 and is available via direct request from Moto -> https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/recovery-images
If you're looking for a 3rd party rom, that is a different matter. I haven't paid attention to them

KidJoe said:
Unlocked GSM Edition XT1053 uses the T-Mobile US "retail" rom which is also the same as the GSM Developer Edition... The SBF has been available for some time from -> http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0 and is available via direct request from Moto -> https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/recovery-images
If you're looking for a 3rd party rom, that is a different matter. I haven't paid attention to them
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So reading through the Motorola site it also instructs uo relock your bootloader. Is that step actually necessary? I'm trying to gather as much information for when I have to put both my wife's and my Moto X Dev Editions back to stock for the next OTA.

The Tallest said:
So reading through the Motorola site it also instructs uo relock your bootloader. Is that step actually necessary? I'm trying to gather as much information for when I have to put both my wife's and my Moto X Dev Editions back to stock for the next OTA.
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No. You do not need to relock. And you can use RSDLite to flash it rather that mFastboot if you want.

KidJoe said:
No. You do not need to relock. And you can use RSDLite to flash it rather that mFastboot if you want.
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That's awesome, definitely saves a step in re-rooting after the next OTA. I've never had to deal with rolling back to stock to take an update mainly because I've been running CM for so long. Didn't bother putting a ROM on the Moto X because its very clean already. Just rooted to lose all of Verizon's junk apps.
Now to read up on RSDLite.

KidJoe said:
No. You do not need to relock. And you can use RSDLite to flash it rather that mFastboot if you want.
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Can I just fastboot/mfastboot boot and system images? I don't need or want the bootloader and want to keep my recovery.
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[Q] Converting xt1097 to pure edition

I have a Telus XT1097. I know that without having a root method atm it is still just speculation but are we aware of any hardware differences or other issues that would make a convert to pure edition (xt1095) impossible?
Thanks in advance!
Jeremie

Jercote said:
I have a Telus XT1097. I know that without having a root method atm it is still just speculation but are we aware of any hardware differences or other issues that would make a convert to pure edition (xt1095) impossible?
Thanks in advance!
Jeremie
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Have you tried unlocking your bootloader? It seems to me the Telus version is pretty much a Pure Edition, except for the model number... BTW does it have any TELUS bloatware at all?
FYI I believe the 1095 has different frequency bands.
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I have not because as far as i understood the method was exclusively for the xt1095 but I'll give it a shot.
As far as bloatware, the only thing Telus installed on this phone is their "My Account" app. It's an app that you can download from the play store.
It's interesting to see the marketing used on Telus' website to describe the Moto X. The catchphrases are: "Pure Style, Pure performance" and then "Pure Android with the quickest updates". It leads me to believe that Telus will pretty much push out updates as they recieve them from Moto.
I'll be less inclined to root and flash if I see that I get timely updates, after using galaxy phones and flashing for the past 5 years i just want something that works great or of the box.
Regards,
Jeremie
johnny grep said:
Have you tried unlocking your bootloader? It seems to me the Telus version is pretty much a Pure Edition, except for the model number... BTW does it have any TELUS bloatware at all?
FYI I believe the 1095 has different frequency bands.
Sent from my Moto X
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Jercote said:
I have not because as far as i understood the method was exclusively for the xt1095 but I'll give it a shot.
As far as bloatware, the only thing Telus installed on this phone is their "My Account" app. It's an app that you can download from the play store.
It's interesting to see the marketing used on Telus' website to describe the Moto X. The catchphrases are: "Pure Style, Pure performance" and then "Pure Android with the quickest updates". It leads me to believe that Telus will pretty much push out updates as they recieve them from Moto.
I'll be less inclined to root and flash if I see that I get timely updates, after using galaxy phones and flashing for the past 5 years i just want something that works great or of the box.
Regards,
Jeremie
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I have a brazilian version, also model XT1097 from carrier Vivo and I was able to unlock the bootloader and root it normally. Would like to know the difference between the XT1095 and XT1097 though.

Jercote said:
I have not because as far as i understood the method was exclusively for the xt1095 but I'll give it a shot.
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I have XT1093 (US Cellular). The Pure Edition root method works for all variants with unlockable bootloaders. The key is to follow the directions completely. As it only BOOTS the system image rather than INSTALLS the image, it works fine. Boots the image once, installs SU to your system, then reboots to your system.

Jercote said:
I have a Telus XT1097. I know that without having a root method atm it is still just speculation but are we aware of any hardware differences or other issues that would make a convert to pure edition (xt1095) impossible?
Thanks in advance!
Jeremie
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hey, I was thinking of getting a Moto X, and was wondering, is the one sold at Telus 16 or 32 GB?

oxxshadow said:
hey, I was thinking of getting a Moto X, and was wondering, is the one sold at Telus 16 or 32 GB?
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Only the 16GB

I thought I was getting a Pure Edition when I bought the unlocked version from Motorola's mexican website, but I got the xt1097... if this is possible that would be great as I believe the pure edition will get updates faster

Could anybody supply the modem for the Telus xt1097? I converted my phone and forgot to backup the modem.

plasticdarlow said:
Could anybody supply the modem for the Telus xt1097? I converted my phone and forgot to backup the modem.
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I have the xt1097, if you can help me do it I will send you the modem for it.

Jercote said:
I have a Telus XT1097. I know that without having a root method atm it is still just speculation but are we aware of any hardware differences or other issues that would make a convert to pure edition (xt1095) impossible?
Thanks in advance!
Jeremie
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Methodikull said:
I have the xt1097, if you can help me do it I will send you the modem for it.
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Sure thing,
I used the multitool to flash that Pure Edition Moto X 2014 (XT1095) ROM (full wipe)
Then flashed ATT Modem (downloaded from graffixnyc website)
Then sidloaded OTA update
Then restored my EFS from my TWRP backup.
Everything booted up fine, except I don't have a cell signal. It asks me for a SIM network unlock PIN. I'm stuck here.... I want to try and flash the telus modem. Not sure why it's asking for a SIM unlock PIN.

I mean how can I back up the modem file for you
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Methodikull said:
I mean how can I back up the modem file for you
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not exactly sure how
---------- Post added at 05:05 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:27 PM ----------
UPDATE:
I flashed the modem from the multitool and I have Data again.

338lm said:
Official factory image is now available from Motorola! https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/recovery-images
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Give it a try now!

It was asking you for unlocking cuz Att modem is sim locked.
So did you manage to successfully convert to 1095? I'd like to try, but I'm a bit worried about the modem issues, I'd need a sim unlocked modem i can use with Brazilian operators.
I'm a noob in moto x developing, so I'm already reading what multitool is and how-to's.
Moto X (2nd Gen) XT-1097
Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 (2012) N-8000
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plasticdarlow said:
Sure thing,
I used the multitool to flash that Pure Edition Moto X 2014 (XT1095) ROM (full wipe)
Then flashed ATT Modem (downloaded from graffixnyc website)
Then sidloaded OTA update
Then restored my EFS from my TWRP backup.
Everything booted up fine, except I don't have a cell signal. It asks me for a SIM network unlock PIN. I'm stuck here.... I want to try and flash the telus modem. Not sure why it's asking for a SIM unlock PIN.
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Any luck getting your phone working? You have an XT1097 right?

Hey guys,
Telus XT1097 user here.
Trying to flash back to stock so I can get some lollipop action.
Which factory image should I be installing here ? I don't think our phones are dev editions / pure editions...
Thanks !

Here is everything you need guys.
http://www.techtastic.nl/android/motorola/installeer-android-5-0-lollipop-op-de-moto-x-xt1092/
It's in Dutch but gives you step by step instructions how to backup your modem and restore it using dd commands. A google translate should suffice.

I have a 1097, but i haven't done anything yet, i don't wanna mess up my brand new phone LOL
i'm reading about the changes to 1095 and mostly the modem issue.

floepie said:
Here is everything you need guys.
http://www.techtastic.nl/android/motorola/installeer-android-5-0-lollipop-op-de-moto-x-xt1092/
It's in Dutch but gives you step by step instructions how to backup your modem and restore it using dd commands. A google translate should suffice.
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I wonder if that only works on some XT1097 phones, I got a "Permission Denied" error when I tried it on mine.

[Q] May I flash other stock roms to my AT&T locked Moto X 1058?

I have a locked AT&T Moto X 1058. Currently, my phone is on stock 4.4.4. There are a few bloatwares from AT&T; they are really annoying, especially the AT&T Address Book. May I flash another stock Rom like the 4.4.4 for T-Mobile to my device? I know that the Rom for T-Mobile is as clean as a developer edition.
Any help would be appreciated.

Do you have an unlocked bootloader?

tomoto x said:
I have a locked AT&T Moto X 1058. Currently, my phone is on stock 4.4.4. There are a few bloatwares from AT&T; they are really annoying, especially the AT&T Address Book. May I flash another stock Rom like the 4.4.4 for T-Mobile to my device? I know that the Rom for T-Mobile is as clean as a developer edition.
Any help would be appreciated.
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nhizzat said:
Do you have an unlocked bootloader?
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No. The bootloader is locked on my XT1058 and unlocking this model is not supported by Motorola.

tomoto x said:
No. The bootloader is locked on my XT1058 and unlocking this model is not supported by Motorola.
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FWIW I have an XT1058 from Claro Chile, and I just flashed a Brazilian ROM (original Motorola KitKat 4.4.4). I haven't found any issues, but I have an unlocked bootloader though. So it might work for you.

You can't with a locked bootloader.

Thank you all, guys. Though I can't flash other Roms but only the ones for AT&T, it is good to know.

tomoto x said:
I have a locked AT&T Moto X 1058. Currently, my phone is on stock 4.4.4. There are a few bloatwares from AT&T; they are really annoying, especially the AT&T Address Book. May I flash another stock Rom like the 4.4.4 for T-Mobile to my device? I know that the Rom for T-Mobile is as clean as a developer edition.
Any help would be appreciated.
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With a locked bootloader all you can flash are stock ROMs signed by Moto and intended for your phone's CID. In other words, ATT XT1058 with locked bootloader can only flash stock ATT ROMs.

If I have a XT1058 on 4.4.2 on other operator (Telcel, Mexico), can I unlock the bootloader? I kinda want to flash a 4.4.4 ROM, plus, my carrier most likely won't update the phone to 5.0

wiidbzxt said:
If I have a XT1058 on 4.4.2 on other operator (Telcel, Mexico), can I unlock the bootloader? I kinda want to flash a 4.4.4 ROM, plus, my carrier most likely won't update the phone to 5.0
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Yes you can, I have the same phone on the same Network, you will lose the warranty though.