Hey, i would like to update from ics to jb but what is the difference between using an ota and flashing a firmware from the sbf droid developers site or even here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2239706
I have bootloader unlocked and ics rooted already if that makes any difference.
I recomend a lot install the jb firmware and not usibg the ota service, for avoid phone bricks, also, if you install the jb firmware with rsd lite, you have the posibility to return to ics without brick (i dont know why you will return but its a extra)
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Marco Lomas said:
I recomend a lot install the jb firmware and not usibg the ota service, for avoid phone bricks, also, if you install the jb firmware with rsd lite, you have the posibility to return to ics without brick (i dont know why you will return but its a extra)
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That's not entirely true that u cant go back when u have installed it by OTA update. With rsd and with ota update u will upgrade some files exactly the same way with both methods, that must not be downgraded. Those files are the bootloader and partition files aka motoboot, gpt, dns, ifwi and (bos?).
I recommend if u ever want to downgrade, flash all things manually. Flash the boot, recovery and system partitions only when going from JB to ICS and erase the cache/data partition or u will get a software-brick. Is fixable though.
But to go from ICS to JB (upgrade), I go with Marco for the rsd flash. Especially when rooted i think. There is a small change that u will relock the bootloader, but i don't know that for sure. However it should work with OTA in theory if u have stock recovery...
Thanks alot guys I updated with rsd lite and it worked my bootloader is still unlocked, but i noticed the when i boot up, the initial screen changed from the motorola logo with "bootloader unlocked" written, to a sort of warning notification about the bootloader being unlocked.
Hazou thats exactly what i wanted to know actually because i was confused about the downgrading process, seeing that many have hard-bricked. One more question, you say i must flash those files individually, but what about restoring a nandroid backup i made when on ics?
tangonegr said:
Thanks alot guys I updated with rsd lite and it worked my bootloader is still unlocked, but i noticed the when i boot up, the initial screen changed from the motorola logo with "bootloader unlocked" written, to a sort of warning notification about the bootloader being unlocked.
Hazou thats exactly what i wanted to know actually because i was confused about the downgrading process, seeing that many have hard-bricked. One more question, you say i must flash those files individually, but what about restoring a nandroid backup i made when on ics?
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No problem, as long as u don't touch any of those bootloader files there is almost no chance that things can go wrong.
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Someone have the logo_signed for Retail EU JB? I just want it to quit this message "Warning Unlocked"
Thanks in advance...
AW: [Q] Help Unlocked Bootloader Message
There's no logo.bmp for jb. We have to life with it. Moto isn't stupid > They upgraded the secure Level of the unlocked Logo and doesn't give us the ability to change it anymore.
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There's no logo.bmp for jb. We have to life with it. Moto isn't stupid > They upgraded the secure Level of the unlocked Logo and doesn't give us the ability to change it anymore.
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Yup
Only thing I can think of is downgrading the boot loader... But Motorola stated the radio and boot loader cannot be flashed away from the current required signature, this would include secure version checks I'd assume. Which explains why people bricked trying to RSD back to ICS after doing the full ota update.
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So.. I have to live with this horrible message? its sad...
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We can downgrade with RSD if the Bootloader is unlocked. But we have to delete the line gpt.bin and motoboot.
I had to do it by myself today, because my i won't boot into the System or recovery anymore. I tried some stuff today. Switching between the full OTA's.
I was able to switch from EU JB OTA to O2 JB with the Homemades. But after i tried to revert back to EU JB with the same method the OTA aborted by setting simlinks and permissions. No Recovery was working (CWM or Stock) and it stucked @ the warning Logo.
RSD saved my ass and i did an Backup of my Retail EU JB before i started to mess around. So i'm back on track :thumbup:
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HSD-Pilot said:
We can downgrade with RSD if the Bootloader is unlocked. But we have to delete the line gpt.bin and motoboot.
I had to do it by myself today, because my i won't boot into the System or recovery anymore. I tried some stuff today. Switching between the full OTA's.
I was able to switch from EU JB OTA to O2 JB with the Homemades. But after i tried to revert back to EU JB with the same method the OTA aborted by setting simlinks and permissions. No Recovery was working (CWM or Stock) and it stucked @ the warning Logo.
RSD saved my ass and i did an Backup of my Retail EU JB before i started to mess around. So i'm back on track :thumbup:
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do i have to downgrade to ICS and quit this message?
Don't know how exactly but i'm bootloader unlocked and currently running the EU jelly bean (installed via the homemade fastboot) and I don't have the warning message.
crunchie-uk said:
Don't know how exactly but i'm bootloader unlocked and currently running the EU jelly bean (installed via the homemade fastboot) and I don't have the warning message.
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>installed via the homemade fastboot
There ya go.
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mattlgroff said:
>installed via the homemade fastboot
There ya go.
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So, with JB, who used homemade fastboot AND DON'T USED OTA (capital to alert others), can still change the logo the same way?
diogo.sena said:
So, with JB, who used homemade fastboot AND DON'T USED OTA (capital to alert others), can still change the logo the same way?
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Homemade doesn't increase the secure version or use partition tables that the ota update does.
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mattlgroff said:
Homemade doesn't increase the secure version or use partition tables that the ota update does.
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So Matt there's no way to change the logo on devices unlocked with OTA JB Retail.EU that have the Unlock Warning Message?
It shows that message coming from a particular sector of the kernel? The BMP code is embedded?
Thx in advance
I've rooted my Moto X with RockMyMoto, now I unrooted it because I want to OTA Update it to 4.4 Kit Kat.
I've done that, and was stuck on bootloop. Used "fastboot erase cache" to get it running again.
My question is: What should I do with my "unrooted" phone before going to the OTA Update?
I've done some research but it is always answers to specific problems. I think I should download an image from sbf.droid-developers.org/ and flash it with RSD Lite. But do I need to unlock my bootloader in order to do that? Is there any other way I could achieve the same goal?
I really like this kind of stuff, and would like learning in the process... But I think I'm missing something, and I'm afraid to brick my phone after this bootloop problem. And have decided I should ask first, and act later.
(I've bought my device from another person, that bought it from a store. So I think I should download the retail imagem from the website, but does something happen if I download the "wrong" image?)
vh0909 said:
I've rooted my Moto X with RockMyMoto, now I unrooted it because I want to OTA Update it to 4.4 Kit Kat.
I've done that, and was stuck on bootloop. Used "fastboot erase cache" to get it running again.
My question is: What should I do with my "unrooted" phone before going to the OTA Update?
I've done some research but it is always answers to specific problems. I think I should download an image from sbf.droid-developers.org/ and flash it with RSD Lite. But do I need to unlock my bootloader in order to do that? Is there any other way I could achieve the same goal?
I really like this kind of stuff, and would like learning in the process... But I think I'm missing something, and I'm afraid to brick my phone after this bootloop problem. And have decided I should ask first, and act later.
(I've bought my device from another person, that bought it from a store. So I think I should download the retail imagem from the website, but does something happen if I download the "wrong" image?)
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If you want to keep root with 4.4, follow the steps in SlapMyMoto. If you do not want root in 4.4, yes you can flash the sbf download with RSD Lite. You do not need an unlocked bootloader to flash with RSD Lite. It is always a way to get back to stock.
mjphillips1981 said:
If you want to keep root with 4.4, follow the steps in SlapMyMoto. If you do not want root in 4.4, yes you can flash the sbf download with RSD Lite. You do not need an unlocked bootloader to flash with RSD Lite. It is always a way to get back to stock.
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Does the process erase all data (like photos and apps for example)?
Thank you for the simple and straight answer!
vh0909 said:
Does the process erase all data (like photos and apps for example)?
Thank you for the simple and straight answer!
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Yes this process will erase EVERYTHING.
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Yes this process will erase EVERYTHING.
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I did that, downloaded the image, then I flashed it into my phone. But it stoped in "reboot In process" and it does not continue. (It rebooted, but didn't erase anything, and it is now on my Homescreen normally)
Is this normal? How do I know if the flash worked?
I wanted to flash my ROM to the stock ROM to remove any possible malware.
If I flash to a custom ROM will the Malware be removed?
Not really sure if I have actual Malware, but want to do it just in case. It's one of those random numbers showing up on the data usage screen.
Regardless, I want to act as if it were a virus or malware. Will flashing to a Custom ROM get me the results I am looking for?
Just return the device to stock via flashing the stock images. During that process you can command to erase user data and in the end you will have a phone like it came out the box.
Is that like a nomral factory reset?
I was trying to do this. http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/guide-moto-x-return-to-100-stock-using-t2446515
The link for the firmware was broken.
Sp00ns said:
Is that like a nomral factory reset?
I was trying to do this. http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/guide-moto-x-return-to-100-stock-using-t2446515
The link for the firmware was broken.
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Look for your firmware here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/info-tip-web-sites-official-leaked-roms-t2923347
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Could not find my rom, but I found it here
iKrYpToNiTe said:
Yes please Safestrap Recovery
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(Can't post directly there with less than 10 posts.
So this, Safestrap recovery, is only if your already rooted, right? I would be following "For unlocked users" instructions if I have never done anything to my phone. It is a late 2013 version I think it may have an OTA 4.4 update, though not sure if that applies since its not rooted or anything.
The instructions say "1. Boot into TWRP 2.7 factory reset then install the rom."
But I need root access to install twrp?
I suppose using the ROM for my phone with the instructions form he thread I was looking at before (linked in prior post) will be a bad idea.
Since I have done nothing to my phone (i think an ota update to 4.4.2), can't I simply do a custom image recovery and have it be okay?
This thread seems to suggest i can just us RS LITE and boot the recovery image I pulled from the other thread using RSDLITE.
Would that work out? Should I, Can I, use the safestrap or unlocked image from here (iKryptonites thread)? I wasn't able to find my rom in the other links you posted, though else were it was hinted that I could use a sprint rom.
With a locked bootloader and no root, you have no reason to think about custom recoveries, SafeStrap, and ROMs.
If you want to upgrade to 4.4.4, flash this http://www.filefactory.com/file/63sfruck3srr/REPW_XT1094_4.4.4_KXE21.187-L2.24_cid6_CFC.xml.zip in RSD Lite.
If you want to stay on 4.4.2, flash this http://www.filefactory.com/file/6ra...A20.16-1.24-1.12-12-release-keys-cid6.xml.zip in RSD Lite.
I would recommend flashing 4.4.2 (if that's what is currently on your phone) then check out Sunshine to see if it will unlock your bootloader. If you need instructions on how to use RSD Lite, use Google. Do not try to downgrade the firmware on your phone.
nhizzat said:
With a locked bootloader and no root, you have no reason to think about custom recoveries, SafeStrap, and ROMs.
If you want to upgrade to 4.4.4, flash this http://www.filefactory.com/file/63sfruck3srr/REPW_XT1094_4.4.4_KXE21.187-L2.24_cid6_CFC.xml.zip in RSD Lite.
If you want to stay on 4.4.2, flash this http://www.filefactory.com/file/6ra...A20.16-1.24-1.12-12-release-keys-cid6.xml.zip in RSD Lite.
I would recommend flashing 4.4.2 (if that's what is currently on your phone) then check out Sunshine to see if it will unlock your bootloader. If you need instructions on how to use RSD Lite, use Google. Do not try to downgrade the firmware on your phone.
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Okay, got it thanks. All i Wanted to do was just flash my phone into anything for the afore mentioned reasons
I was just wondering if i can go back from stock ota updated 5.0.2 to 4.4 kitkat with my twrp backup without problems ?
You can downgrade to 4.4.4 without issues. But I never tested such thing using TWRP backup, but, as far as I know, KitKat bootloader is different of Lollipop, so you may brick some files in your Titan. If you really want to downgrade, do it properly, by downloading DSDALL firmware and then, using fastboot to order the commands. If you want to automate downgrade process, you can use my tool that you can take a look here. You still need to download the stock ROM apart, tough. xD
Ok thank you very much. Guess I'll have to use titanium backup and fastboot then. Will definitely check your tool
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Ok thank you very much. Guess I'll have to use titanium backup and fastboot then. Will definitely check your tool
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No problem. Glad I helped
No you can easily downgrade using twrp.. Just wipe system cache data and dalvik cache and restore the system, data and boot of your kk backup.. You should be good to go
Flashing the firmware will surely brick your device
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Ok thanks a lot thats great to hear will do it this way then . So basically i can have KK roms on Lollipop bootloader but not vice versa ( except stock based )and i cant downgrade the bootloader right ?
thepekic said:
Ok thanks a lot thats great to hear will do it this way then . So basically i can have KK roms on Lollipop bootloader but not vice versa ( except stock based )and i cant downgrade the bootloader right ?
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You cant downgrade your bootloader, and yes you cant use custom 5.1 roms with kk bootloader But anyways, your bootloader is already upgraded, so it doesnt matter. And be careful about one thing, don't directly flash a STOCK kk rom on a lollipop 5.1 rom. Always downgrade to a stock based rom, and then do it.. CM11 based roms can be flashed directly (with wipes of course)
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You cant downgrade your bootloader, and yes you cant use custom 5.1 roms with kk bootloader But anyways, your bootloader is already upgraded, so it doesnt matter. And be careful about one thing, don't directly flash a STOCK kk rom on a lollipop 5.1 rom. Always downgrade to a stock based rom, and then do it.. CM11 based roms can be flashed directly (with wipes of course)
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Thanks. Sorry because i was a bit unclear, the thing is i didn't update to lollipop yet and wanted to do it via ota. So I'm still on stock 4.4. But i saw your RaR rom and i think i will just flash that. I'm really sorry to ask again and waste your time but will i be able to flash other non-stock based lollipop roms then ? (just for fun of course because i think i will be using RaR as my daily )
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Thanks. Sorry because i was a bit unclear, the thing is i didn't update to lollipop yet and wanted to do it via ota. So I'm still on stock 4.4. But i saw your RaR rom and i think i will just flash that. I'm really sorry to ask again and waste your time but will i be able to flash other non-stock based lollipop roms then ? (just for fun of course because i think i will be using RaR as my daily )
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I highly recommend you do the ota update before flashing any ROMs, because it will update your bootloader, and avoid issues After you get your BL updated, you can freely flash any ROM of your choice, just make sure you do a clean flash
And no you are not wasting my time
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Vidhanth said:
I highly recommend you do the ota update before flashing any ROMs, because it will update your bootloader, and avoid issues After you get your BL updated, you can freely flash any ROM of your choice, just make sure you do a clean flash
And no you are not wasting my time
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Ok done thanks so much man !
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I got a notification that my phone was able to update to Marshmallow today so downloaded the update and set the installation on its way. The problems start here, when rebooting after starting the installation it boots into TWRP, I'd previously rooted my phone but unrooted it after a while, though all I did was select the unroot option on SuperSU and didnt relock the bootloader or anything like that.
The TWRP is v2.8.7.0, and my Moto G is a XT1072 version and currently running 5.0.2.
Im tempted to factory reset but worried that might brick my phone. Any help is greatly appreciated.
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FlashHouse said:
I got a notification that my phone was able to update to Marshmallow today so downloaded the update and set the installation on its way. The problems start here, when rebooting after starting the installation it boots into TWRP, I'd previously rooted my phone but unrooted it after a while, though all I did was select the unroot option on SuperSU and didnt relock the bootloader or anything like that.
The TWRP is v2.8.7.0, and my Moto G is a XT1072 version and currently running 5.0.2.
Im tempted to factory reset but worried that might brick my phone. Any help is greatly appreciated.
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You can´t update via OTA with a custom recovery like twrp installed. You have to be on stock recovery and the latest full unrooted non-modified stock firmware. Unlocked BL is no problem and doesn´t matter.
In most cases just unrooting and flashing back stock recovery is not enough because there still could be small changes which will make the OTA installation fail.
Nevertheless you can try that or you flash the latest 5.0.2 stock firmware.
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You can´t update via OTA with a custom recovery like twrp installed. You have to be on stock recovery and the latest full unrooted non-modified stock firmware. Unlocked BL is no problem and doesn´t matter.
In most cases just unrooting and flashing back stock recovery is not enough because there still could be small changes which will make the OTA installation fail.
Nevertheless you can try that or you flash the latest 5.0.2 stock firmware.
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Anex to words of Wolfcity, if you want to update via OTA you will need to install stock recovery and stock rom of LP, there is a procedure with a toolkit that you can easily find in general forum. The tool kit will help you to back again at the beginning. Nevertheless, why use stock firmware with a lot of cool roms to flash? [emoji4] [emoji106]
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Sorry mate, the toolkit is in Android development forum, here is the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2979862
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