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Hi guys didn't find this topic anywhere on XDA and maybe it's a general JB Problem, but I experienced it on my Nexus 7.
After adding a second user account (I'm on MoDaCo's N7 3G ROM) my N7 was having extreme lags and was running choppy.
This guide (Method 3) seems to have it fixed for me.
So try it out and post your results here!
erm, I have no idea why all those steps.. the second user seemed laggy, but I think it was partly because it doesn't kill other apps that are running, or doesn't seem to.. And overall seemed laggier.
I deleted the second user, done, back to normal.
No fooling with su.
Okay, I read it again.. Basically you can ADD users without being rooted and it's okay.. Seems weird to me, I'd like to hear the reason, but interesting.
I'm getting sick of the lag on my 4x. Camera tags so long the moment has past, messaging crashes 50% of the time, needing the recent tasks to be brought up and cleared before it will work again, browser is infuriating, and whenever anyone calls, the phone will ring and vibrate, but the screen will take so long in bringing up the 'answer/reject' options that sometimes the caller has rung off before I've even had a chance to answer!
This is on the most recent official 4.1.2
I know there's loads of roms available to me, but I need an un-rooted one, as I use the barclays banking app a lot for my business and it won't work on a rooted device.
Is it simple to just turn off the root mode on a custom rom?
Are most of them quite stable nowadays?
Ben-B said:
I'm getting sick of the lag on my 4x. Camera tags so long the moment has past, messaging crashes 50% of the time, needing the recent tasks to be brought up and cleared before it will work again, browser is infuriating, and whenever anyone calls, the phone will ring and vibrate, but the screen will take so long in bringing up the 'answer/reject' options that sometimes the caller has rung off before I've even had a chance to answer!
This is on the most recent official 4.1.2
I know there's loads of roms available to me, but I need an un-rooted one, as I use the barclays banking app a lot for my business and it won't work on a rooted device.
Is it simple to just turn off the root mode on a custom rom?
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i'm almost sure you can't have a custom rom without root. try using some launcher to get your phone smoother like nova or adw and some task killers like clean master.
AFAIK, Omni is not rooted. You have to install SuperSU separately.
Also OP, this isn't the adequate section of the forum and the title of the thread is confusing too.
Even if you flash a rooted rom, the su app should give you an option to unroot (deleting the su binaries).. However, by doing this you'll lose some rom's features, which work with su permissions.. BTW, @laufersteppenwolf, maybe it's better to move this thread in Q&A section
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you can also check out this nifty app here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2574647
cheers & gl
and this is an original android development thread? Sounds legit.
Have you tried to use superSU and check temporarily unroot option btw?
Ben-B said:
I'm getting sick of the lag on my 4x. Camera tags so long the moment has past, messaging crashes 50% of the time, needing the recent tasks to be brought up and cleared before it will work again, browser is infuriating, and whenever anyone calls, the phone will ring and vibrate, but the screen will take so long in bringing up the 'answer/reject' options that sometimes the caller has rung off before I've even had a chance to answer!
This is on the most recent official 4.1.2
I know there's loads of roms available to me, but I need an un-rooted one, as I use the barclays banking app a lot for my business and it won't work on a rooted device.
Is it simple to just turn off the root mode on a custom rom?
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We can help you how to unroot a ROM, but asking for "the best ROM" is against xda rules, so please rename your thread title, or else I have to close this thread. Also, I will move it into the Q&A section as soon as I'm home
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Thanks all,
I'll have a look at the custom roms and choose a new one I reckon!
RootCloak looks a great idea! Exactly what I need!
I'm assuming most users (those of you who replied) don't find your phones as unusable as mine with your custom roms installed?
Ben-B said:
Thanks all,
I'll have a look at the custom roms and choose a new one I reckon!
RootCloak looks a great idea! Exactly what I need!
I'm assuming most users (those of you who replied) don't find your phones as unusable as mine with your custom roms installed?
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Personally, I have to say that my phone is smoother, faster and more battery friendly since from when I'm using a custom rom..I really prefer custom instead of stock
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If you are using Xposed framework on the Note 4, Secure storage will fail to process and save data, which leads to a Sensor service hangs, which causes the laggy experience some of you have been having.
This was an issue back on the S5, it is fixed by using this module XSecureStorage by @wanam or disabling S Health.
However from what I have heard this doesn't fix Private Mode.
just to clairfy...mine is laggy all the time. I am probably wrong considering it is 830am but it said s-health and private mode only...does that mean that module will only fix the lag
when using s-health?
installed XSecureStorage but S health still hang. it's really a difficult decision: use xposed for full control, or uninstall xposed for smoother operations...
RomBox said:
installed XSecureStorage but S health still hang. it's really a difficult decision: use xposed for full control, or uninstall xposed for smoother operations...
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What if you "freeze" S health using ROM Toolbox?. Does it still cause problems?
are you using ART or DALVIK as your runtime?
Shtihi said:
are you using ART or DALVIK as your runtime?
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You can't use Xposed with ART yet.
Batfink33 said:
What if you "freeze" S health using ROM Toolbox?. Does it still cause problems?
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disabled S Health use TB and installed xposed back, so far no lag noticed...
Got my Note 4 last night, and it lagged right away straight out of the box.
If you boys are only getting lag after installing Xposed you're lucky!!! lol
Although I was planning to install it, I might think twice after your thread. How bad is it exactly?
For example my settings always stutters if I open it and start trying to scroll straight away. If I wait a couple of seconds, it's usually fine.
Same goes for pressing recently used apps button, and scrolling through the card stack. If I give it a second it's ok, but if I try straight away it's lag city.
So far I've found 0 difference between the Note 4 and the S4. Maybe I'm just unlucky!
prophet42 said:
Got my Note 4 last night, and it lagged right away straight out of the box.
If you boys are only getting lag after installing Xposed you're lucky!!! lol
Although I was planning to install it, I might think twice after your thread. How bad is it exactly?
For example my settings always stutters if I open it and start trying to scroll straight away. If I wait a couple of seconds, it's usually fine.
Same goes for pressing recently used apps button, and scrolling through the card stack. If I give it a second it's ok, but if I try straight away it's lag city.
So far I've found 0 difference between the Note 4 and the S4. Maybe I'm just unlucky!
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TRY THIS I hope this helps as much as myself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAXtjgrfgEY
asia559571 said:
TRY THIS I hope this helps as much as myself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAXtjgrfgEY
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First think I did out the box =)
Along with removing touchwiz, switching off certain google now features (such as "OK Google" detection), and removing flipboard.
Always slowed the animations down since the days of the Galaxy S 3. S Voice and health are the first things I remove since the S5.
It helps a little, but unfortuntely the lag is still there (well unless I leave it a split second for it to load).
But that's something I can live with. Thanks anyway. Anyone who doesn't done it, it will help.
Although one interesting side effect is the accessability options mess up, so now the calculator talks to me lol.
But hopefully that will be addressed soon. There are other threads on that subject.
Wanam xposed module already has these functions built in. Been using it since day 1. No need for a separate module guys
badwolf94 said:
If you are using Xposed framework on the Note 4, Secure storage will fail to process and save data, which leads to a Sensor service hangs, which causes the laggy experience some of you have been having.
This was an issue back on the S5, it is fixed by using this module XSecureStorage by @wanam or disabling S Health.
However from what I have heard this doesn't fix Private Mode.
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I don't know but I think you are posting wrong information.
I've been using xposed and secure storage on FireKat without any lagging or secure storage issues.
My Note runs buttery smooth and 100% stable since day one.
Cheers ?
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Rayan said:
I don't know but I think you are posting wrong information.
I've been using xposed and secure storage on FireKat without any lagging or secure storage issues.
My Note runs buttery smooth and 100% stable since day one.
Cheers ?
Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk
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If you are running a custom rom chances are the dev has already fixed the issue by editing the buildprop to secure storage support false
sawdoctor said:
If you are running a custom rom chances are the dev has already fixed the issue by editing the buildprop to secure storage support false
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Yeah this pretty much, the thread was made back when Note 4 first came out and their wasn't any custom ROMS available. All of the ROMS to-date have the necessary fixes enabled.
I have both private mode and S Health running without any problems or lag. Running Firekat v. 8, Xposed. Disabling secure storage in Xposed is the key.
sawdoctor said:
If you are running a custom rom chances are the dev has already fixed the issue by editing the buildprop to secure storage support false
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I wish it was as simple as editing the Build.prop file... But no, for some reason DynamicKat's Secure Storage does not work for me even though it comes with the required settings on build.prop
No matter what I throw at it, paches, fixes, editing build.prop, disabling SHealth, xposed modules, etc, it simply refuses to work.
But the good thing is that at least on Firekat it does work flawlessly as I've mentioned before.
Cheers!
wipe cache and data of s health in app settings, you will have it running again, I have no lags
Hi guys, so i just rooted my T-mobile galaxy note 4 yesterday using the guideline. However, i have been experienced some problems with the phone:
1. Increase lagging when using Go keyboard, GoSMS,launch app, sometime freeze when flip through stock launcher...
2. Softcard is not working, so i install Xposed framework and download RootCloak. I dont know if this can intefere with the system?also no longer using update software in setting.
3. The stock camera occasionally failed to launch,or if it does launch, all i see is a black screen, and i can't figure out the reason?
Please help,any suggestion at all to what maybe the cause of all this?
PS: If i want to unroot and go back to stock T-mobile rom before how can i do it? And is it possible to un trip Knox?
Thanks!
re: issues
BADBOY1412 said:
Hi guys, so i just rooted my T-mobile galaxy note 4 yesterday using the guideline. However, i have been experienced some problems with the phone:
1. Increase lagging when using Go keyboard, GoSMS,launch app, sometime freeze when flip through stock launcher...
2. Softcard is not working, so i install Xposed framework and download RootCloak. I dont know if this can intefere with the system?also no longer using update software in setting.
3. The stock camera occasionally failed to launch,or if it does launch, all i see is a black screen, and i can't figure out the reason?
Please help,any suggestion at all to what maybe the cause of all this?
PS: If i want to unroot and go back to stock T-mobile rom before how can i do it? And is it possible to un trip Knox?
Thanks!
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With all of those play store apps you have installed it's a wonder
that you don't have even more issues than you are already having.
Uninstall the Go keyboard and all the Go applications then reboot
your phone so you can find out whether they are to blame for your
lagging and freezing. Be sure to make the stock keyboard as default.
None of the play store apps have yet been updated for our new phones
so many of them are not fully compatible yet and some of them do not
play nice with some of the default apps which comes with our phones.
Especially the xposed and it's modules can and sometimes do interfere
with the normal operation of our new phones and some of it's apps.
The developers of xposed will hopefully start updating it soon so it will
be a lot more compatible with our phones and will no longer have issues.
I am fairly confident that if you uninstall xposed framework and it's modules
then reboot the phone you will no longer have those issues you mentioned.
And no, you cannot un-trip knox...........
Good luck!
BADBOY1412 said:
Hi guys, so i just rooted my T-mobile galaxy note 4 yesterday using the guideline. However, i have been experienced some problems with the phone:
1. Increase lagging when using Go keyboard, GoSMS,launch app, sometime freeze when flip through stock launcher...
2. Softcard is not working, so i install Xposed framework and download RootCloak. I dont know if this can intefere with the system?also no longer using update software in setting.
3. The stock camera occasionally failed to launch,or if it does launch, all i see is a black screen, and i can't figure out the reason?
Please help,any suggestion at all to what maybe the cause of all this?
PS: If i want to unroot and go back to stock T-mobile rom before how can i do it? And is it possible to un trip Knox?
Thanks!
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Go products run so much in background they not worth using. Instant lag.
NOTE 4
Misterjunky said:
With all of those play store apps you have installed it's a wonder
that you don't have even more issues than you are already having.
Uninstall the Go keyboard and all the Go applications then reboot
your phone so you can find out whether they are to blame for your
lagging and freezing. Be sure to make the stock keyboard as default.
None of the play store apps have yet been updated for our new phones
so many of them are not fully compatible yet and some of them do not
play nice with some of the default apps which comes with our phones.
Especially the xposed and it's modules can and sometimes do interfere
with the normal operation of our new phones and some of it's apps.
The developers of xposed will hopefully start updating it soon so it will
be a lot more compatible with our phones and will no longer have issues.
I am fairly confident that if you uninstall xposed framework and it's modules
then reboot the phone you will no longer have those issues you mentioned.
And no, you cannot un-trip knox...........
Good luck!
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In all honesty this lag issue is a wide spread issue, not sure if it's a phone batch issue or what but I took mine back to tmobile and even they say people have called to exchange device due to extreme lag where the phone will be un responsive, the camera won't work, switching between apps can to 10 to 30 seconds to switch, and I'm sure most these are normal users. In terms of performance the note 3 ran circles around the note 4 so far until we can a debloated custom rim, I think we're finally seeing that bloat ware be phone experience killers. Just to see the difference I had over 400 apps, xposed mods, etc installed on my note3, everything handled smooth even while trying to make it crash running a tweaked rom.
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Try a benchmark test a few times. I think that ***** slaps the cpu and wakes it up. Seriously, it helped on my phone.
BTW. My geekbench score was lower than an 801 snapdragon.
so i install Xposed framework and download RootCloak.
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Wasn't there a problem with Xposed slowing things down and breaking things?
dkb218 said:
Wasn't there a problem with Xposed slowing things down and breaking things?
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yes, but no. I think it was more of a root problem since root broke S health which made our phones lag like a mother. I really havent noticed any lag with exception of the task manager since having it though.
Misterjunky said:
With all of those play store apps you have installed it's a wonder
that you don't have even more issues than you are already having.
Uninstall the Go keyboard and all the Go applications then reboot
your phone so you can find out whether they are to blame for your
lagging and freezing. Be sure to make the stock keyboard as default.
None of the play store apps have yet been updated for our new phones
so many of them are not fully compatible yet and some of them do not
play nice with some of the default apps which comes with our phones.
Especially the xposed and it's modules can and sometimes do interfere
with the normal operation of our new phones and some of it's apps.
The developers of xposed will hopefully start updating it soon so it will
be a lot more compatible with our phones and will no longer have issues.
I am fairly confident that if you uninstall xposed framework and it's modules
then reboot the phone you will no longer have those issues you mentioned.
And no, you cannot un-trip knox...........
Good luck!
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I tried,lagging still happen and more frequently when im using sammy stock launcher touch wizz. I did delete xposed and all module, factory reset everything but lagging still happen, please any know how i can get the stock un root rom, this lagging is super annoying
dkb218 said:
Wasn't there a problem with Xposed slowing things down and breaking things?
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No, its work fine, the lagging happened b4 i installing xposed
knarfies said:
yes, but no. I think it was more of a root problem since root broke S health which made our phones lag like a mother. I really havent noticed any lag with exception of the task manager since having it though.
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Will uninstall Shealth get rid of the problem?
BADBOY1412 said:
Will uninstall Shealth get rid of the problem?
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I would used xposed and use wanam. Use it to use the secure storage fix. Clear s health cache and data and reboot. This will fix the lag.
I don't know if it's been mentioned before but I was having annoying lag and stutters , I still am but it's gotten better , for me it was the Google music widget that I had on one of my homescreens ( I only have 3 homescreens in case you ask) , if you have it try getting rid of it and also deactivate the chrome option to have the chrome tabs shown on "recent apps /task switcher " also try to keep your recent tabs with the less amount of cards possible , I know that the fact that they're there doesn't mean they're opened , maybe it's a placebo effect but it feels like some those apps in there are really running in the background even when they're not supposed to do so, sometimes I used the app days ago and it is in the back of the "cards " and it still is running , they're called "recent apps" not opened apps ...
Google music with material design is really laggy ! I will get rid of it completely but its proving to be quite hard since I really enjoy having my music one click away on the cloud .
Chrome still has its "jank " and chopping scrolling sometimes but there's not much we can do .
I don't really understand the lag , it really it's random , sometimes I'm heavy multitasking and I have no issues and sometimes I'm just using chrome and twitter and it lags like crazy , or it just lags while scrolling on the home screen (google now stock launcher )
Have you had any of these issues ?
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So are you basically saying if you have lag in an app. Delete the app and the lag will be gone? Lol... ?
Sent from my Android 5.0 Nexus 5
I use Play Music heavily. All access pass, it's my go to music app. Never noticed any lag on it though. I use it all day, every day.
Ben36 said:
So are you basically saying if you have lag in an app. Delete the app and the lag will be gone? Lol... ?
Sent from my Android 5.0 Nexus 5
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lol
System memory leaks have nothing to do with anything you mentioned.
Chad_Petree said:
also try to keep your recent tabs with the less amount of cards possible , I know that the fact that they're there doesn't mean they're opened , maybe it's a placebo effect but it feels like some those apps in there are really running in the background .
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Do you even know how multitasking works??
:facepalm:
So what is the point of this thread? Your using LSD not Lollypoop!
Have u tried custom kernel like Code Blue?
pcphobic said:
Have u tried custom kernel like Code Blue?
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And if it lags just delete the kernel too
Sent from my Android 5.0 Nexus 5
Ben36 said:
So are you basically saying if you have lag in an app. Delete the app and the lag will be gone? Lol... ?
Sent from my Android 5.0 Nexus 5
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Well they're bogging the whole is down , the lag is not only on the app so I would suggest delete the app until it gets properly optimized Haha [emoji28]
jayRokk said:
Do you even know how multitasking works??
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Actually I do and that's why I'm saying it's not normal that they keep running in the background since they're not supposed to , I'm sorry if it sounded misleading ...
borgsta said:
System memory leaks have nothing to do with anything you mentioned.
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Read about it yesterday , I'm hoping it really is the cause of the issue but it looks like people with 5.0.1 are still experiencing lag , maybe we have to wait for 5.1?
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Jeez guys. Calm down. xD
It does says " If you're... "
He's just trying to help, lol.
Google play music is really ****ty..so much lag
Chad_Petree said:
Actually I do and that's why I'm saying it's not normal that they keep running in the background since they're not supposed to , I'm sorry if it sounded misleading ...
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It think you're mixing things up with iOS here. In Android apps are suposed to continue running in the background. It's on iOS where apps in the background are paused and which features no real multitasking.
I'm using Uber kernel and don't have any lags.
Curiousn00b said:
Jeez guys. Calm down. xD
It does says " If you're... "
He's just trying to help, lol.
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And listening to music for an hour drains 4-6 percent of battery... I thought music was supposed to be lower power...
Anyhow, the only lag I see in that app is when I open it and hit the menu and then my library and scroll over. I'll have a slight second of stutter once I get inside and scroll down my list but other than that it seems smooth for me. Battery leaves less than be desired.
There will always be a slight lag here and there. I too experience lag when open Play Music. Sometimes there's no lag, sometimes there's a slight pause or delay in opening.
I have these kinds of stutters and lags about once a week and that's the time I reboot my phone to flash the latest build of my rom.
There are a lot of memory leaks in lollipop or at least there are in the ROM which I'm using (AICP). System App ram consumption shoots up to 1.4 GB and there's immense lag.
I've started to ignore it since a simple reboot fixes it.
Lol... I was hopping a fix for a stuttering in notification drawer pull....
I didn't expect this :laugh:
I had also serious lags, however, I updated yesterday to GooglePlayServices 6.5.99 (-438) and so far the lag is gone.
Maybe worth a try?
Unable to update Play Services with Dec 12, 2014 update
tom1807 said:
I had also serious lags, however, I updated yesterday to GooglePlayServices 6.5.99 (-438) and so far the lag is gone.
Maybe worth a try?
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On the Issue Tracker at
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=79729
someone today mentioned that same fix and provide a link to the APK. But the post with the link was removed from the issue tracker.
I currently have Play Services 6.5.87 (1599771-438)
When I search the Play Store with Chrome the update shows up
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.gms&hl=en
(the update is dated Dec 12, 2014)
However the update does not show up using the Play Store app on the N5 device.
The Google Play website says the update is compatible with all my devices. But on the device list to install the update, my N5 is greyed out and I can only highlight my Android tablet.
Why is Google not allowing me to install the Play Services update on the N5 when I have the previous version?
Or maybe the update is not ready for the N5, just like Android 5.0.1 is not ready?
But how are other folks installing the Play Services update? Link anyone so I can sideload?