Hi All,
Was just looking into the prospect of rooting and I came across a post that basically responded to a guy asking whether subsequent OTA/Official updates would revert the root. the response was:
this might well happen. To be sure that this won't happen, don't update, or wait for a rooted version of the update to be released
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It's the bit in bold that's got me wondering. I have my Nexus running stock ROM but rooted (with locked bootloader). I have the problem with the WiFi which 2.2.1 claims to fix.....and I just wasting time thinking that this update might get released as a rooted version so I can just install and not worry about losing root?
Any help gratefully received.
Cheers
1. Already released as a rooted version (check the ROM section)
2. Really easy to root with rageagainsthtecage ...
Right I can ask you the question then......with the rageagainstthecage root method, is there anyway to install the update without flashing a new ROM...I'm ok with stock.
If you're rooted - install custom recovery and install pre-rooted ROM.
Or try to apply the stock update through stock recovery, if you have it.
Wiggz said:
Right I can ask you the question then......with the rageagainstthecage root method, is there anyway to install the update without flashing a new ROM...I'm ok with stock.
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Just install the OTA - it will unroot you.
then root with "rage"
check out modaco, he's got frg83 completely stock with root. just flash using custom recovery. I didnt do a wipe so everything stayed the same just updated to 2.2.1 and yes it seems the wifi issue was fixed.
Just get the stock rooted from geo411m's rom!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=559
The links here will also do it in 2 steps from custom recovery:
http://ip208-100-42-21.static.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8419658&postcount=194
The geo411m link is a deodexed ROM and the one in the link above is not deodexed. Either way you get the fixes of the newer version.
Going forward, think of it this way with future updates:
If you apply the OTA, intending to lose root and then re-root, you always run the risk that all avenues of rooting (other than unlocking the bootloader) have been closed by the new ROM.
If you apply an update repacked for custom recovery, you don't have to worry whether the root exploit you used last time will still be valid.
nexusdue said:
Just install the OTA - it will unroot you.
then root with "rage"
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Thanks for that - honestly not sure why I didn't think of it
Ahh found a flaw in my plan.....it seems that verification fails on my Vodafone Nexus One (UK). I'm guessing there isn't an upgrade path from Vodafone's Froyo update to this yet. Suppose I'll have to wait for Voda's 2.2.1
I'm going to backup my ROM and flash Monster ROM right now (is it faster than stock?). Will I have to undo everything if I want to update my firmware officially?
Yup official it's requires stock rom
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poetryrocksalot said:
I'm going to backup my ROM and flash Monster ROM right now (is it faster than stock?). Will I have to undo everything if I want to update my firmware officially?
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You don't need to unroot to get the OTA update, you do need the stock ROM with all of the included bloatware. If you are updating to the leaked OTA update, then you will need an app called OTA Root Keeper, to back up your root (because the one click root method is blocked in the leaked OTA update)
hi!
my xperia z bootloader is locked and can be unlocked, i'm still on stock rom 4.1.2.
i'm planning to get root and install a recovery, but keep the bootloader locked. will it then be possible to receive sony's offical jb 4.2.2 update when rooted and recovery installed? i know that once the update 4.2.2. is installed i will have to re-root.
thanks
hebbe said:
hi!
my xperia z bootloader is locked and can be unlocked, i'm still on stock rom 4.1.2.
i'm planning to get root and install a recovery, but keep the bootloader locked. will it then be possible to receive sony's offical jb 4.2.2 update when rooted and recovery installed? i know that once the update 4.2.2. is installed i will have to re-root.
thanks
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Yes you will get notification of new official updates if you are rooted
danw_oz said:
Yes you will get notification of new official updates if you are rooted
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Thanks for your reply.
But will it install? Just a notification would be useless...
Or will I have to get the update somewhere here on xda and flash it manually?
It installs, and overwrites your root. For now that's not an issue, but when 5.0 comes out it might not be possible to get root again due to SELinux being implemented.
Yes exactly as Tom mentioned, it will happy install from PC Companion straight over top, then you just need to re-root again.
4.2.2 would be nice first Tom
I read an article long ago which has the capability to root all android devices . It uses a flaw that is in the android itself. It seems even backup and restore app of sony uses this method
So this s the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886460
I dont know if it works but devs can try it out
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pjgowtham said:
I read an article long ago which has the capability to root all android devices . It uses a flaw that is in the android itself. It seems even backup and restore app of sony uses this method
So this s the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886460
I dont know if it works but devs can try it out
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doesn't work with the latest firmware
it is not working with the latest firmware 10.1.1A.1.253.
I have tried
If we update OTA we don't lose root right?
Download OTA rootkeeper...use Protect root..that should keep your root after you update
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Sadman Khan said:
Download OTA rootkeeper...use Protect root..that should keep your root after you update
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With every OTA update my root was still there, I'm just asking for the specific update, if something changed and we lose root..
reptile64 said:
With every OTA update my root was still there, I'm just asking for the specific update, if something changed and we lose root..
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I have tried, OTA cannot update the new firware, can only use PCC to update the new fireware.
I can confirm Voodoo OTA RootKeeper cannot help protect root when u are updating using PCC.
I have Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper and i update from PCC and my root is lost.....
Flashben said:
I have tried, OTA cannot update the new firware, can only use PCC to update the new fireware.
I can confirm Voodoo OTA RootKeeper cannot help protect root when u are updating using PCC.
I have Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper and i update from PCC and my root is lost.....
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What about the root methods that used to work with older firmwares? Are they still working? Anyone tried?
reptile64 said:
With every OTA update my root was still there, I'm just asking for the specific update, if something changed and we lose root..
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Well i didnt know sorry!
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reptile64 said:
What about the root methods that used to work with older firmwares? Are they still working? Anyone tried?
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I have tried bin4ry's method and it is confirmed by many users it is not working....
I have also tried motochpper and it is not working too.
But i know that if u unloack bootloader, you are still able to root.. but i just dont want to unlock my BL just yet....
Might need to confirm but I remember that on the arc to root you had to downgrade the kernel, root then re flash updated ed kernel
Needs to be confirmed first
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My suggestion to preserve root is simple
Download the update.(just d update from the existing firmware)
Creating a .zip file
Modding it so that we don't lose root
Flash that zip through cwm so that we can enjoy updates widout losing root or trying to find new ways of rooting new firmware..
Maddhouse said:
Might need to confirm but I remember that on the arc to root you had to downgrade the kernel, root then re flash updated ed kernel
Needs to be confirmed first
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I try this and work, first i flash Stock Kernel with CWM , then i flash root from recovery and than back Stock Kernel from .tft file.
pjgowtham said:
My suggestion to preserve root is simple
Download the update.(just d update from the existing firmware)
Creating a .zip file
Modding it so that we don't lose root
Flash that zip through cwm so that we can enjoy updates widout losing root or trying to find new ways of rooting new firmware..
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I woul also go with this solution approach..
1. For getting the FTF Files: http://mytechencounters.wordpress.c...eate-an-ftf-file-of-your-xperia-ics-firmware/
2. Then creating a Flashable Zip File: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2183077
3. Preroot it..But how to do that?
I am looking for a easier way I didnt install CWM on my XZ...
unliess it is really no other ways, i will have unlock my BL but i will still wait
Blagoja said:
I try this and work, first i flash Stock Kernel with CWM , then i flash root from recovery and than back Stock Kernel from .tft file.
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Madhouse was talking about Locked Bootloader phones, everybody knows how to root any firmware with an unlocked bootloader.
In the Xperia ARC, the procedure was to flash the newest firmware (not-rootable), then flash a previous kernel only (rootable) with flashtool, turn on phone, root it using any exploit available, turn it off, and flash the newest kernel alone with flashtool. Phone rooted and in the latest version.
I don't know, but maybe this method could work as this new firmware is still based on Android 4.1 just like the previous one, so the older, exploiteable, kernel should be able to boot the new firmware.
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Madhouse was talking about Locked Bootloader phones, everybody knows how to root any firmware with an unlocked bootloader.
In the Xperia ARC, the procedure was to flash the newest firmware (not-rootable), then flash a previous kernel only (rootable) with flashtool, turn on phone, root it using any exploit available, turn it off, and flash the newest kernel alone with flashtool. Phone rooted and in the latest version.
I don't know, but maybe this method could work as this new firmware is still based on Android 4.1 just like the previous one, so the older, exploiteable, kernel should be able to boot the new firmware.
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I already root my phone with this method , just flash old kernel with CWM_Recovery , reboot in recovery , flash root SuperSU-1.25-Busybox-1.20.2-UPDATE.zip , reboot in flash mode and then flash stock Kernel from 10.1.1.A.1.253 .
Blagoja said:
I already root my phone with this method , just flash old kernel with CWM_Recovery , reboot in recovery , flash root SuperSU-1.25-Busybox-1.20.2-UPDATE.zip , reboot in flash mode and then flash stock Kernel from 10.1.1.A.1.253 .
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AGAIN, this is only possible on unlocked bootloaders. With locked bootloaders, once you update to 10.1.1.A.1.253, you loose root and recovery, so there is no way to do what you are saying. Once updated to .253, the only way to change kernel is via flashtool.
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RoberM said:
AGAIN, this is only possible on unlocked bootloaders. With locked bootloaders, once you update to 10.1.1.A.1.253, you loose root and recovery, so there is no way to do what you are saying. Once updated to .253, the only way to change kernel is via flashtool.
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Yes, this is only possible on unlocked bootloader.
Blagoja said:
I already root my phone with this method , just flash old kernel with CWM_Recovery , reboot in recovery , flash root SuperSU-1.25-Busybox-1.20.2-UPDATE.zip , reboot in flash mode and then flash stock Kernel from 10.1.1.A.1.253 .
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Wasnt sure of this, now I am, thanks!
I had rooted my K3 note by replacing the stock recovery with TWRP with the help of SP Flash tools and installing SuperSU.
Recently the Marshmallow OTA update rolled out for the Indian K3 Note. However, when I try installing it, the phone simply reboots without updating. Going through the forums, I believe that this is due to the absence of the stock recovery which seems to be required for installing the update.
I also believe that if I try manually flashing the OTA update zip through TWRP, it'll probably fail, since this is what most people have attempted to do so have experienced.
So how do I go about installing the OTA update now? Do I have to reinstall the stock recovery or is there a workaround via TWRP? If I do have to unroot and install stock recovery, how do I go about it? I don't want to go through the hassles of unrooting my phone to install this update, neither do I want to apply any unofficial ROMs such as the cuoco92 one.
Suggest me some solutions guys..
Thanks in advance
tirtha2shredder said:
I had rooted my K3 note by replacing the stock recovery with TWRP with the help of SP Flash tools and installing SuperSU.
Recently the Marshmallow OTA update rolled out for the Indian K3 Note. However, when I try installing it, the phone simply reboots without updating. Going through the forums, I believe that this is due to the absence of the stock recovery which seems to be required for installing the update.
I also believe that if I try manually flashing the OTA update zip through TWRP, it'll probably fail, since this is what most people have attempted to do so have experienced.
So how do I go about installing the OTA update now? Do I have to reinstall the stock recovery or is there a workaround via TWRP? If I do have to unroot and install stock recovery, how do I go about it? I don't want to go through the hassles of unrooting my phone to install this update, neither do I want to apply any unofficial ROMs such as the cuoco92 one.
Suggest me some solutions guys..
Thanks in advance
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Try to download official mm rom for indian k3 and flash via twrp or sp flash tool..
adikri said:
Try to download official mm rom for indian k3 and flash via twrp or sp flash tool..
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Have you tried doing the same? Won't that require the phone to be unrooted?
tirtha2shredder said:
Have you tried doing the same? Won't that require the phone to be unrooted?
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You will be downloading whole new mm official Indian lenovo rom..
Obviously there will be no root after new rom but you have re-root after finishing boot.. :laugh:
Its easy to download and install updated rom and re-root..
adikri said:
You will be downloading whole new mm official Indian lenovo rom..
Obviously there will be no root after new rom but you have re-root after finishing boot.. :laugh:
Its easy to download and install updated rom and re-root..
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Stop spreading misinformation mate, if you don't know what you're talking about. I've spent the whole evening looking through the internet regarding my query where all of them say that the OTA update only works with stock recovery. Flashing the official OTA update with TWRP will most definitely not work.
There is no definitive article or post which explains how to do it with a rooted phone and custom recovery, which is what I'm looking for.
tirtha2shredder said:
Stop spreading misinformation mate, if you don't know what you're talking about. I've spent the whole evening looking through the internet regarding my query where all of them say that the OTA update only works with stock recovery. Flashing the official OTA update with TWRP will most definitely not work.
There is no definitive article or post which explains how to do it with a rooted phone and custom recovery, which is what I'm looking for.
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Obviously there is nothing..
And you won't find anything so.. choose your side..