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I am straight new to the Moto X, I came from the Galaxy S4. I have the ability to have an unlocked bootloader (Dev Edition). How do I gain root access? And from there how do I begin flashing new ROMs, TWRP? Links and/or step by steps would be great! Thanks!
Have you tried searching the forums?
They've already built a tool for this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2477132
bobo-the-drunk said:
Have you tried searching the forums?
They've already built a tool for this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2477132
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I saw this specific one I didn't know if it was 4.4 or not
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bobo-the-drunk said:
Have you tried searching the forums?
They've already built a tool for this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2477132
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Or verizon. So it was up in the air if that one would work.
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Swimboy46163 said:
Or verizon. So it was up in the air if that one would work.
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I saw this specific one I didn't know if it was 4.4 or not
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Ah, I didn't realize you wanted the long version. If you follow jcase's instructions from start to finish (including running Use RockMyMoto and MotoWPNoMo) you'll be good to go. First thing you'll need to do is use RSD Lite to downgrade to 4.2.2, from there you can use a bunch of exploits to remove write protection (MotoWPNoMo) and root 4.2.2 (RockMyMoto). Once that's done, you can upgrade to 4.4 and follow jcase's guide (SlapMyMoto) to root your Verizon phone with 4.4.
If you're new to rooting, follow this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358
If you've been around the block a few times, you can jump directly to this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538896
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Ah, I didn't realize you wanted the long version. If you follow jcase's instructions from start to finish (including running Use RockMyMoto and MotoWPNoMo) you'll be good to go. First thing you'll need to do is use RSD Lite to downgrade to 4.2.2, from there you can use a bunch of exploits to remove write protection (MotoWPNoMo) and root 4.2.2 (RockMyMoto). Once that's done, you can upgrade to 4.4 and follow jcase's guide (SlapMyMoto) to root your Verizon phone with 4.4.
If you're new to rooting, follow this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358
If you've been around the block a few times, you can jump directly to this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538896
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Long version? What's the difference between the long and short?
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Look at them one is just the slapmymoto steps then other is step by step for everything u need to do to get Root I would recommend the long version it just goes into more details so you have no issues
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This thread has bad information. He needs to unlock his bootloader since he has the dev edition, and flash TWRP.
He does not need to revert to 4.2.2, that's only for the people with locked bootloaders.
Unlock:
https://motorola-global-portal.cust...e/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a/action/auth
TWRP:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2534850
Simple.
Coop9 said:
This thread has bad information. He needs to unlock his bootloader since he has the dev edition, and flash TWRP.
He does not need to revert to 4.2.2, that's only for the people with locked bootloaders.
Unlock:
https://motorola-global-portal.cust...e/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a/action/auth
TWRP:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2534850
Simple.
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@Coop9 is right. I missed the part about his phone being dev edition.
In reality he can do it either way if he dose not want to unlock he does not have to but my guide covers both ways
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dray_jr said:
In reality he can do it either way if he dose not want to unlock he does not have to but my guide covers both ways
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I can see someone wanting to do that if they had a non-dev edition phone which was unlockable, in order to save the warranty, but unlocking the bootloader just makes sense if you have a dev edition and want to root. It's literally a 5-10 minute process, and very simple to follow.
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I can see someone wanting to do that if they had a non-dev edition phone which was unlockable, in order to save the warranty, but unlocking the bootloader just makes sense if you have a dev edition and want to root. It's literally a 5-10 minute process, and very simple to follow.
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i agree with you the one thing that i cant stand about the Moto X forum is the important info is not sticky'ed like it should be to help new comers find out how to do things. i know when i first got my moto X 3 months ago i unlocked my bootloader but because i could not find a good guide i did the whole slapmymoto steps to root 4.4.
this is one of the reason's why i try to answer any Q and A i can and why i try to keep my guide as updated as i can i just wish they would sticky it for people to find it easy. but anyway back to adding how to unlock the bootloader to my guide.
While this thread is still active, is there any way to root a verizon phone on 4.4 with a mac? I have seen several guides, and they all mention using windows software.
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While this thread is still active, is there any way to root a verizon phone on 4.4 with a mac? I have seen several guides, and they all mention using windows software.
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should be the same process but with mac's CMD tool which is terminal. but im not 100% sure
i would make a new thread with the title How ot Root Verizon 4.4 on a Mac. i know there are a couple people on here who have mac.
Can I safely use the OTA update to 4.4.2 when I used the SlapMyMoto method (http://www.reddit.com/r/MotoX/comments/1t5ei6/guide_root_verizon_nondeveloper_moto_x_44/) to root my Moto X (so my bootloader is still locked)? If not, how can I update to 4.4.2 with root, if possible?
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Can I safely use the OTA update to 4.4.2 when I used the SlapMyMoto method (http://www.reddit.com/r/MotoX/comments/1t5ei6/guide_root_verizon_nondeveloper_moto_x_44/) to root my Moto X (so my bootloader is still locked)? If not, how can I update to 4.4.2 with root, if possible?
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why wont you people search and read before for you post this is the 3-4 thread about taking the OTA in the past 10 mins.
i mean come on the first thread title is [noobs] [ guide ] to accept an ota
and second please dont use that guide
use any of the guides on this site like mine
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358
or the creator of slapmymoto Jcase's guide in the Original Android development section
Really time to open a troll thread.
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I opened this thread a while ago :crying:. I did read the first thread but it I saw on xda somewhere that it wasn't safe to root if you used SlapMyMoto, and the thread didn't confirm or deny that statement. Which is why I posted this thread. I do apologize if this seemed like an obvious question to you, but I'm not that experienced in rooting/flashing/whatnot yet. So could you give me a straight answer please?
I read through multiple threads and I'm still unsure I can take the ota if I'm rooted with locked boot loader on 4.4.
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biggiestuff said:
I read through multiple threads and I'm still unsure I can take the ota if I'm rooted with locked boot loader on 4.4.
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Yeah, I won't be taking the risk. I read somewhere that you CAN update to 4.4.2 safely, but write permissions will be denied so you can't use things like Xposed. I'm just going to wait and watch the dust settle first.
biggiestuff said:
I read through multiple threads and I'm still unsure I can take the ota if I'm rooted with locked boot loader on 4.4.
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Why don't you try it yourself and let us all know how it goes, kay?
Cozume said:
Why don't you try it yourself and let us all know how it goes, kay?
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Okay just send me your phone and I'll gladly do it.
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There really ought to be discipline for blatantly posting without searching first. Sorry OP but wow....
The moto x forum is such a mess. Lol
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kj2112 said:
There really ought to be discipline for blatantly posting without searching first. Sorry OP but wow....
The moto x forum is such a mess. Lol
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Well the forums are inundated with a bunch of posts regarding unlocked bootloader X's. I don't know why people are having issues, they just need to disable all things root, go back to stock, then take the OTA. The solution to these has been documented a million times.
Our problem has to do with a locked bootloader, and there's not much information besides "wait for it to be rooted."
I'm sitting patiently (but anxiously, hah), but it's a bit confusing for everyone because we're all just sitting on our hands hoping for 4.4.2 root.
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why wont you people search and read before for you post this is the 3-4 thread about taking the OTA in the past 10 mins.
i mean come on the first thread title is [noobs] [ guide ] to accept an ota
and second please dont use that guide
use any of the guides on this site like mine
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358
or the creator of slapmymoto Jcase's guide in the Original Android development section
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The noobs guide you are reffering to only talks about unlocked bootloaders...
I will not answer any question in regards to slapmymoto or pawnmymoto regards to accepting the ota
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And your guide too only only shows how to do it for unlcoked bootloaders. Is it so hard to give a straight answer? He wants root on 4.4.2 without unlocking the bootloader..
densets said:
The noobs guide you are reffering to only talks about unlocked bootloaders...
And your guide too only only shows how to do it for unlcoked bootloaders. Is it so hard to give a straight answer? He wants root on 4.4.2 without unlocking the bootloader..
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OK changed my op, I have tried to make it simple as possible and it for any ota up to date, if you hacked rooted with slapmymoto or pawnmymoto do not accept the ota, as to date , there is no root hack for 4.4.2 and may never be. If your boot loader is unlockable and you used jcases root method, then unlock your boot loader. To sum it up 4.4.2 requires a unlocked boot loader to gain root access in this point in time
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Thank you guys for clarifying what I meant, I know not to root now :good:
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The noobs guide you are reffering to only talks about unlocked bootloaders...
And your guide too only only shows how to do it for unlcoked bootloaders. Is it so hard to give a straight answer? He wants root on 4.4.2 without unlocking the bootloader..
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apparently you did not even read my guide because it tells you how to root both locked and unlocked bootloaders so next time read before you open you mouth and tell me i did not give him a straight answer
yeah because rooting 4.2.2 and 4.4.2 is the same thing right?
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yeah because rooting 4.2.2 and 4.4.2 is the same thing right?
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Yes. For unlocked bootloaders.
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kj2112 said:
Yes. For unlocked bootloaders.
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And if you had read the guy's post you would see he wasn't clear on when the thread was referencing locked bootloaders or unlocked bootloaders
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50252348&postcount=4
Sometimes people can search and read and still not get it. Because some times the people giving the answers aren't clear in their explanations for a variety of reasons or because they leave out critical facts/steps that seem so basic to them they don't feel the need to include them but yet to a noob, you are lost without those critical facts/steps. Hence the need for:
Moto X Q&A Forum
It's interesting to see how many people are so concerned with root, yet bought a device with a locked bootloader. Especially considering how readily available Motorola has made the developer editions...
MotoX Developer Edition went from German 4.4.2 to Great Britain 4.4.2 to T-Mobile 4.4.2 no problem. Fastboot FTW!
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...To sum it up 4.4.2 requires a unlocked boot loader to gain root access in this point in time
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that is the way you should have written it (so people can see it).
SymbioticGenius said:
It's interesting to see how many people are so concerned with root, yet bought a device with a locked bootloader. Especially considering how readily available Motorola has made the developer editions...!
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First, in the US very few people buy off contract phones given the carrier subsidies are built into their wireless service contracts. And the Motorola Dev Eds (as is true of all Dev Eds) are only available off contract. So if you go with a Dev Ed, you are paying for a subsidy but not using it. Of course, you can buy an iPhone with your subsidized upgrade and sell it, but many people aren't willing to do this or don't know how to do this or are afraid of using craig's list/swappa/ebay to sell a phone. I know I was nervous the first time I did it.
Now things are beginning to change in that at least 3 of the major carriers are offering discounts on your bill if you will forego subsidized phone pricing, but for my carrier, to get a discount you have to enroll in their installment program and get the phone through them, and you can't get a Dev Ed through them. The discount does not equal the subsidy unless you are on a family plan using 10GB or more per month of data. But if you are, the discount exceeds the subsidy. So your best bet is to either stick with the subsidy built into your plan or go with Verizon's installment plan, but either way you can't get a Dev Ed.
Second, you can't customize the Dev Eds and while that may not be important to some people, a lot of people really like it. I bought a second Moto X just to get the wood back, lol! Not entirely true as I am going to use it for WiFi tether in my house as soon as I root it, but that wood back for only $25 extra sure was hard to resist.
So in the US with the subsidy and customization options, being readily available isn't the whole story.
any word on when someone will be aquiring exploit to unlock ATT moto x bootloader
dgross1123 said:
any word on when someone will be aquiring exploit to unlock ATT moto x bootloader
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An exploit is highly unlikely. The Moto X bootloader is extremely secure. You may be able to get unlocked through the china middleman - see that thread for details.
Just bought one myself..great phone would love to root it.
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reedcasechris420 said:
Just bought one myself..great phone would love to root it.
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You can root it now - see the PIE thread. Unfortunately, this is a partial root - no write access to /system and no custom recovery. Root is lost upon reboot and must perform procedure again. Still useful for things like Xposed and WiFi Tether....
The better option is to try to unlock the bootloader. Since you are using at XT1058 (I'm guessing AT&T branded?) your only option is the china middleman.
Good Luck
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You can root it now - see the PIE thread. Unfortunately, this is a partial root - no write access to /system and no custom recovery. Root is lost upon reboot and must perform procedure again. Still useful for things like Xposed and WiFi Tether....
The better option is to try to unlock the bootloader. Since you are using at XT1058 (I'm guessing AT&T branded?) your only option is the china middleman.
Good Luck
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my brother just did it.. nothing fancy doesn't give you write permissions or anything...i midswell do it right and go all out with the code. I did contact the person for the codes and he is still doing them and has one for my 06 built phone. I'll will be getting it this day and report back.
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samwathegreat said:
An exploit is highly unlikely. The Moto X bootloader is extremely secure. You may be able to get unlocked through the china middleman - see that thread for details.
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Does anyone know where this guy is getting the codes from? Surely he has a program or something that generates them based on the imei
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Does anyone know where this guy is getting the codes from? Surely he has a program or something that generates them based on the imei
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53423452
joshua.justice said:
Does anyone know where this guy is getting the codes from? Surely he has a program or something that generates them based on the imei
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No. He got his hands on moto's database.
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No. He got his hands on moto's database.
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He has weird access to it ..some days he can do them other days he can't. I wish we had someone in the states with access to it.
Hello. I have an AT&T S5 that is currently unlocked and I am using it with T-Mobile. I would love to root it and put Cyanogenmod 11 on it, as I put it on my nexus 4 before this and loved it. they say on the http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Klte_Info page not to use this guide due to the boot image signing. Does anyone have any information/instructions on how to go about completing this? Thanks!
schneiderm3709 said:
Hello. I have an AT&T S5 that is currently unlocked and I am using it with T-Mobile. I would love to root it and put Cyanogenmod 11 on it, as I put it on my nexus 4 before this and loved it. they say on the http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Klte_Info page not to use this guide due to the boot image signing. Does anyone have any information/instructions on how to go about completing this? Thanks!
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OK, so I dont want to sound rude so forgive me if I do. but a search in the forums would show you that CM/AOSP/AOKP will not run on an AT&T S5 due to locked bootloader
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OK, so I dont want to sound rude so forgive me if I do. but a search in the forums would show you that CM/AOSP/AOKP will not run on an AT&T S5 due to locked bootloader
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I've also seen a lot of stuff about unlocking bootloaders on AT&T s5's though, so I was wondering if it is possible somehow.
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I've also seen a lot of stuff about unlocking bootloaders on AT&T s5's though, so I was wondering if it is possible somehow.
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unfortunately the BL will likely never be unlocked so the chances are extremely slim we will ever see a nything but touchwiz roms.
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I've also seen a lot of stuff about unlocking bootloaders on AT&T s5's though, so I was wondering if it is possible somehow.
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You can unlock the bootloader on other versions of the Galaxy S5 but you can't unlock the bootloader for the AT&T and Verizon version of the Galaxy S5.
maybe someone can actually get cm11 working for this device i once intalled it using safestrap and it booted touch and everything work but the screen didnt show anything
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Hello. I have an AT&T S5 that is currently unlocked and I am using it with T-Mobile. I would love to root it and put Cyanogenmod 11 on it, as I put it on my nexus 4 before this and loved it. they say on the http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Klte_Info page not to use this guide due to the boot image signing. Does anyone have any information/instructions on how to go about completing this? Thanks!
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NO. You can't. On top of that, you posted this in the wrong section.
(Q) Questions don't go in Development.
This question is about two or three years old almost. Dude, almost all of At&t phones have LOCKED BOOTLOADERS and we will never be able to get passed it. NEVER EVER EVER,,,,,,,,Buy a T-Mobile phone!
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maybe someone can actually get cm11 working for this device i once intalled it using safestrap and it booted touch and everything work but the screen didnt show anything
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NO. Someone wont. You go right ahead and keep flashing files, your phone is going to die. I wouldn't be flashing just whatever to see if it works. That's not a very good idea.
isanchez340 said:
maybe someone can actually get cm11 working for this device i once intalled it using safestrap and it booted touch and everything work but the screen didnt show anything
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OK, just to clear this up one last time.
1. We can not install custom kernels, Stock TW kernels are not compatible with CM/AOSP/AOKP ROM's
2. the flashing process although it will complete does not mean the ROM will run.
3. There is (currently) no way to circumvent these issues.
4. SafeStrap will NOT flash kernels only the file system.
Some S5 and S5A devices (international models, Tmobile, Sprint) to name a few have unlocked BootLoaders
those devices can and do run CM/AOSP/AOKP ROM's. AT&T has a Locked BootLoader
I really don't mean to sound condescending however this device is fast approaching it's first birthday and many many people have tried to run CM or CM derivitives on the AT&T device, there are tons of threads cluttering the development forums in regards to this issue continuing to attempt to install a CM Build and then posting here in the AT&T forums is at this time a pointless effort.
Using the search feature either ein Goolge or in the forums will provide all the answers you need.
Thank you,
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OK, just to clear this up one last time.
Thank you,
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And you really believe this is the last time! [emoji1]
SM-G870A Peace
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And you really believe this is the last time! [emoji1]
SM-G870A Peace
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Well, one can only hope! :laugh::laugh:
In defense of the OP, it's pretty confusing that there's the Unified Development subforum which shows up under the AT&T section... I've been wondering why there's all these threads in a subforum to AT&T talking about installing all these roms that I know shouldn't work. I figured it was just something more involved than I'm comfortable with so I've ignored it. It seems like until the AT&T BL is unlocked that we shouldn't even have the Unified section linked here.
How to know if my s5a has unlocked BL?
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How to know if my s5a has unlocked BL?
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You have to unlock it. If you have an AT&T device it's locked.
This is the reason I'm using my upgrade to get a Nexus 6.
rachelm920 said:
You have to unlock it. If you have an AT&T device it's locked.
This is the reason I'm using my upgrade to get a Nexus 6.
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hate to burst your bubble but if you get the nexus 6 from AT&T it will also have a locked bootloader it is up in the air on whether or not it will be able to be unlocked. the only safe way to gaurentee an unlocked bootloader is to buy the nexus 6 unbranded direct from google.
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How to know if my s5a has unlocked BL?
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is it AT&T device? if so IT'S LOCKED, LOCKED, LOCKED, NO NO NO it cant be unlocked......
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is it AT&T device? if so IT'S LOCKED, LOCKED, LOCKED, NO NO NO it cant be unlocked......
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So you are saying the BL is locked?
:silly:
adam
cstayton said:
hate to burst your bubble but if you get the nexus 6 from AT&T it will also have a locked bootloader it is up in the air on whether or not it will be able to be unlocked. the only safe way to gaurentee an unlocked bootloader is to buy the nexus 6 unbranded direct from google.
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Sending this on an unlocked nexus 6 from At&t. Not sure where u got that information but it's false. Upgraded from the S5 myself, no more locked down phones for me again.
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Sending this on an unlocked nexus 6 from At&t. Not sure where u got that information but it's false. Upgraded from the S5 myself, no more locked down phones for me again.
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im merely pointing out that everything i have read has pointed to it being locked (not that it cant be unlocked mind you) AT&T rarely sends devices with the bootloader unlocked whether or not you can unlock them is a different story. i merely stated that "From what i had read" sorry for the confusion
EDIT: in fact here is the thread stating it comes from AT&T locked but is unlockable
bl
and if at&t will want they can unlock BL right? or is there any way to ask them bl unlock?
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and if at&t will want they can unlock BL right? or is there any way to ask them bl unlock?
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They could unlock it yes, but they won't, they won't do it upon request either as far as I know.
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hey there, im new with this phone, i used to have the z1 but just today i bought this cool phone, the question is, Can i root my phone without unloncking my bootloader? i search in all sections but i dont really understand. Its just a simple question though. thanks for your answer
JesusBass said:
hey there, im new with this phone, i used to have the z1 but just today i bought this cool phone, the question is, Can i root my phone without unloncking my bootloader? i search in all sections but i dont really understand. Its just a simple question though. thanks for your answer
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Simple answer. Until now, no way to root without unlocking the bootloader.
thepipespecialist said:
Simple answer. Until now, no way to root without unlocking the bootloader.
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even Kingroot ?
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even Kingroot ?
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Doesn't work.
Does anyone know something we could do about this device?
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Does anyone know something we could do about this device?
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It's been explained in some posts by our fellow devs in some of the threads - the answer is: no root without UB, because the kernel has a so-called 'verity check', which detects any system modifications and panics if it finds one, and for this to be overcome, there are already some kernels which bypass this check, but as you know, you can't install a custom kernel without unlocking the bootloader.
However, I saw some hopeful post about M, something about an exploit being available for half-root, enough to backup your TA and unlock bootloader with the option of re-locking it afterwards without losing your DRM keys.
airlessproject said:
It's been explained in some posts by our fellow devs in some of the threads - the answer is: no root without UB, because the kernel has a so-called 'verity check', which detects any system modifications and panics if it finds one, and for this to be overcome, there are already some kernels which bypass this check, but as you know, you can't install a custom kernel without unlocking the bootloader.
However, I saw some hopeful post about M, something about an exploit being available for half-root, enough to backup your TA and unlock bootloader with the option of re-locking it afterwards without losing your DRM keys.
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WOW really so there is hope can you link to this progress?