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I was informed that the phone could be overclocked to 800 instead of just 768 with a new kernel. Well i found an uncapped that reaches 844mhz. I am wondering has anyone tried this, and if so did it work? Another question I have is, since this kernel is high powered, if i flashed it but only overclocked to a reg speed like 710 would this run better than sobe .35 kernel oc'd at 710?
Yes, it will work. No, it isn't worth the extra battery drain for the marginal, if any, performance gains.
My Hero couldn't run 844 without some issues, I could run 829 with no problems.
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Hey Riz do you have a link to that kernel? Thanks
Yup definitely not worth it. I could run 806 with no problem expect the battery kept depleting asap.
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Yup definitely not worth it. I could run 806 with no problem expect the battery kept depleting asap.
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If I have a 3500mah extended battery, would it be worth the performance gains? Because i still have my cover and battery from the 1530mah that came with the phone, so i figured since the 3500 takes a while to charge, i could use it untill it is at like 15% then while it charges, pop in the 1530 battery and underclock to about 633 until the 3500 is charged
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If I have a 3500mah extended battery, would it be worth the performance gains? Because i still have my cover and battery from the 1530mah that came with the phone, so i figured since the 3500 takes a while to charge, i could use it untill it is at like 15% then while it charges, pop in the 1530 battery and underclock to about 633 until the 3500 is charged
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That battery won't last long, due to the overheating that overclocking that high will cause. My phone will run over 800, but I saw no improvement in performance, frankly I thought it was at it's performance peak at 710.
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If I have a 3500mah extended battery, would it be worth the performance gains? Because i still have my cover and battery from the 1530mah that came with the phone, so i figured since the 3500 takes a while to charge, i could use it untill it is at like 15% then while it charges, pop in the 1530 battery and underclock to about 633 until the 3500 is charged
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Nope. Just try it out and see for yourself.
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If I have a 3500mah extended battery, would it be worth the performance gains? Because i still have my cover and battery from the 1530mah that came with the phone, so i figured since the 3500 takes a while to charge, i could use it untill it is at like 15% then while it charges, pop in the 1530 battery and underclock to about 633 until the 3500 is charged
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633 is still considered overclocking on this phone. It was built to run at 518.
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It throttles at 36 C and shuts down at 59 to 60 C.
They should increase the throttle to 45 C and when 45 C is reached make the throttle more aggressive would be a better solution.
What do you guys think?
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Swedroids test
It throttles at 36 C and shuts down at 59 to 60 C.
They should increase the throttle to 45 C and when 45 C is reached make the throttle more aggressive would be a better solution.
What do you guys think?
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If it gets to hot people get the yellowing... I would rather run cooler and not worry about it.
Is this throttling effecting real world usage or just benchmarks? Not being sarcastic, asking a question.
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If it gets to hot people get the yellowing... I would rather run cooler and not worry about it.
Is this throttling effecting real world usage or just benchmarks? Not being sarcastic, asking a question.
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Well i dont know, i dont care about benchmarks, just thought about informing what i found.
And increasing the throttle level and making it more aggressive later on was just my opinion.
I would like to see a comparison with the iPhone 5 and Galaxy S III on what temperatures they shut down.
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Swedroids test
It throttles at 36 C and shuts down at 59 to 60 C.
They should increase the throttle to 45 C and when 45 C is reached make the throttle more aggressive would be a better solution.
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I think that the video was pretty painful to watch! lol WHO on earth would run a phone to death like that?? Hope they have an extended warranty... For real though, I would like to see them bump up the throttling temp a lil but in the real world most users will NEVER experience something like that because that app is meant to run your phone into the ground! I hate that they even make benchmarking apps cause it makes me competitive but I have found that the N4 is FAST as hell so I don't need anything else to prove that to me... Good vid though for the info but lets all step back into reality...
I'm thinking the S4Pro is rated to a higher temperature, and the thermal shutdown is really more for battery health than processor health... Regardless, 11 minutes at 100% load with no real cooling system...
Does the Galaxy S3 also shut down at the same temperature?
12 minutes with the CPU pegged at 100% on all cores with no cooling is impressive, IMHO. Yes it clocked down to 1150MHz but that's plenty fine.
No real world task will come close to pushing the processor that far. I doubt even gaming will task the cores so much that the phone throttles them back.
A lot of modern laptops won't run 12 minutes of solid prime95 before clocking down. This c2d 2.8GHz laptop I'm typing on now will clock down to 800MHz after 15-20 minutes of prime95...but it doesn't throttle at all when doing real world stuff, even compiling or encoding etc.
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I think that the video was pretty painful to watch! lol WHO on earth would run a phone to death like that?? Hope they have an extended warranty... For real though, I would like to see them bump up the throttling temp a lil but in the real world most users will NEVER experience something like that because that app is meant to run your phone into the ground! I hate that they even make benchmarking apps cause it makes me competitive but I have found that the N4 is FAST as hell so I don't need anything else to prove that to me... Good vid though for the info but lets all step back into reality...
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In my opinion the throttle should engage at 43-45c because at 36c its idle temperatures when the phone i just on stand by.
Ok I fear that's a real problem. What if I want to play a graphic intensive game for a few hours? Expecially on a hot summer day?
Could the phone shut down?
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So much for Qualcomm's butter test
In the video description you can find:
"The reason as to why we published this video is because we've never experienced temperatures reaching ~60 degrees C before, nor have we ever experienced a phone shutting itself down after just 12 minutes of continuous full load, nor have we ever experienced such aggressive thermal throttling. It pretty much throttles down instantaneously from 1.5GHz to 1.2 or 1.1GHz during heavy load.
All temperature readings are presented in Celcius.
The Nexus 4 seems to have some issues with heat development. At least if we are to believe our findings. There might of course be a possibility that our unit is faulty. We are however not alone according to the Google Android issue tracker: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.into.stability&feature=.... A google search on the matter will also render lots of user reports concerning heat issues.
In comparison the quad core Galaxy S3 (3G) battery sensor reports ~41 degrees after 13 minutes of full load with the screen set to 100% brightness. It does however lower the CPU frequency to 800MHz at times, but mostly run at 1.4GHz. Our IR meter reports about ~34 degrees if we go ahead and measure the hottest spot on the back of the phone (area around the camera lens)."
For me, this is a no-go. I wouldn't buy a phone that shuts down after a few minutes of processor stress testing. Can somebody tell if the same happens with his N4?
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In the video description you can find:
"The reason as to why we published this video is because we've never experienced temperatures reaching ~60 degrees C before, nor have we ever experienced a phone shutting itself down after just 12 minutes of continuous full load, nor have we ever experienced such aggressive thermal throttling. It pretty much throttles down instantaneously from 1.5GHz to 1.2 or 1.1GHz during heavy load.
All temperature readings are presented in Celcius.
The Nexus 4 seems to have some issues with heat development. At least if we are to believe our findings. There might of course be a possibility that our unit is faulty. We are however not alone according to the Google Android issue tracker: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.into.stability&feature=.... A google search on the matter will also render lots of user reports concerning heat issues.
In comparison the quad core Galaxy S3 (3G) battery sensor reports ~41 degrees after 13 minutes of full load with the screen set to 100% brightness. It does however lower the CPU frequency to 800MHz at times, but mostly run at 1.4GHz. Our IR meter reports about ~34 degrees if we go ahead and measure the hottest spot on the back of the phone (area around the camera lens)."
For me, this is a no-go. I wouldn't buy a phone that shuts down after a few minutes of processor stress testing. Can somebody tell if the same happens with his N4?
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Thing is that if you search the web for this problem, you get a lot of hits about people have thermal issues. I hope it just is a defective unit but it seems it is not the case. The S4 pro seems to be generating to much heat and requires too much power. That's why it empty's the 2100 mha battery a bit faster compared to other devices.
Maybe the S4 pro is more suitable for tablets and not phones.
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Ok I fear that's a real problem. What if I want to play a graphic intensive game for a few hours? Expecially on a hot summer day?
Could the phone shut down?
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Very few applications will use 4 cores. Hell, most don't even use 2 cores by default. So the chances of you maxing out all 4 cores in routine usage isn't very likely. The extra cores typically benefit smartphones when one process is utilizing a core already, a different process just gets thrown over to a different core so it doesn't have to wait for CPU cycles. Most smartphone use is "burst-y" so this helps end-users out quite a bit.
99.9 % its not the S4 Pro`s fault, just the lame battery from LG. I mean WTF after 15 secs it clocks down !!!!
Yeah, thats weird. But I could live with it, expecially when the phone runs buttersmooth. But if the phone shuts down after a few minutes of processor intensive tasks that's a big problem. I know that barely any app is using 4 cores simultanously, but what happens if you stress-test only one core? Does the phone also shut down?
This doesnt seem that bad, you're stressing it pretty hard which wont ever be done in real word conditions, for example take intel burn test, most people find this stresses the chip to temperatures 15C+ over any possible real word tests/usage.
You say the SGS3 throttles to 800Mhz at some points well thats pretty poor is it not? Clock for clock the s4 pro is superior and so clocking in over 300Mhz faster when throttled its pretty good id say. If you're comparing the S4 vs the S4 pro (US SGS3) then its pretty hard to say the battery sucks when its got more power! Of course it will run hotter haha.
I think they could put back the throttling limits a bit though, I think it maybe a battery issue more than anything though so maybe its a fault... Please test it by stressing a high end game for an hour or so tracking the temps and clock speed, that would be a much better indication.
edit: Seen your reply before me, It wont shut down like that in the real world! If you stress test only one core I can assure you that it will run MUCH cooler, you are essentially testing 2x the amount in the s4 Pro than you are in the dual core varient, in these stress tests it works pretty much 110% each core, in the realworld there will be idle times and switching between cores handling different threads, lots of variences that should mean it would be ALOT cooler all the time even if using all 4.
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Yeah, thats weird. But I could live with it, expecially when the phone runs buttersmooth. But if the phone shuts down after a few minutes of processor intensive tasks that's a big problem. I know that barely any app is using 4 cores simultanously, but what happens if you stress-test only one core? Does the phone also shut down?
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1 core likely won't generate as much heat, and not to mention the whole point of the cores is to distribute load and operate at max efficiency rather than less cores at max.
I understand that some people have issue with the throttling, but until people report that they can't play x and y after z minutes it is a non issue. It may have to do with the glass, maybe LG battery. It is possible the throttle is there to preserve the higher recharge cycles LG Chem batteries have.
Unless it actually ruins an app experience, on stock rom and kernel, it is not an issue. If someone would rather pay 400 more to boost their bench by 5% that's up to them.
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Mhmm, I guess it won't be a problem in real world usage. Nevertheless it's quite weird that the phone heats up that much AND THEN SHUTS DOWN, expecially in comparison to other phones like the SGS3, where this problem doesn't occur.
But yes, I didn't hear any complaints about critical-heat-shutdowns in real world usage, so maybe I'm just overreacting. But at the moment it's winter in USA and Europe, so let's see how the phone performs in summer heat
My old HTC Desire often overheats and shuts down on hot summer days when I'm using GPS or playing games, so I just hope my next phone won't have this problem
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Mhmm, I guess it won't be a problem in real world usage. Nevertheless it's quite weird that the phone heats up that much AND THEN SHUTS DOWN, expecially in comparison to other phones like the SGS3, where this problem doesn't occur.
But yes, I didn't hear any complaints about critical-heat-shutdowns in real world usage, so maybe I'm just overreacting. But at the moment it's winter in USA and Europe, so let's see how the phone performs in summer heat
My old HTC Desire often overheats on hot summer days when I'm using GPS or playing games, so I just hope my next phone won't have this problem
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Mine has been shutting down due to overheating at least once a day. I've just exchanged it so will see how that is.
Worryingly, I will often be doing nothing other than web browsing or similar which should not stress the CPU
I work in a cell phone shop ( Technician Manager ) so i fix phones everyday. Most of the people on xda and the internet have noticed the nexus 4 getting warm, I myself thought so too. I did stress test's on Three devices 1.) Nexus 4, which was mine Rooted no stock rom. 2. Galaxy nexus, GT-I9250 rooted stock rom. 3.) Samsung Galaxy III, T999. Rooted running Cm 10.1 latest nightly. Out of the three I found that the nexus 4 had the lowest temperature overall.
. The Samsung Galaxy Nexus got 50-58 C, basic web browsing and watching a short clip on YouTube. 60-68 C Gaming. Game used Eternal Warriors
The Samsung Galaxy S III got almost the same temperatures as the Galaxy Nexus 45-50 C with basic web browsing and watching a short clip on YouTube. Gaming 50-60 C. Game used Eternal Warriors
The nexus 4 with basic web browsing got 35-48 C. Gaming it got 50-62 C
All of the Three Devices ran for 45 minutes and used the same Game/ video to watch.
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My Nexus 4 gets so toasty if im running Spotify & GPS nav at the same time on long road trips. (And its charging at the same time.)
Kinda surprised to see your results.
IMHO the glass on the back may feel more warm that the plastic back of most other phones because glass conducts heat better than plastic. That is possibly why this phone has the overheating perception in most peoples minds.
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My Nexus 4 gets so toasty if im running Spotify & GPS nav at the same time on long road trips. (And its charging at the same time.)
Kinda surprised to see your results.
IMHO the glass on the back may feel more warm that the plastic back of most other phones because glass conducts heat better than plastic. That is possibly why this phone has the overheating perception in most peoples minds.
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That's what came to my conclusion, for the glass that's on the nexus 4. Notice that I don't have it on the charge it's just on the battery. I think you will get higher temperatures when it's charging
The glass is good in a way or another. This way, it helps the phone's internal components cool down by conducting the produced heat outside.
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The glass is good in a way or another. This way, it helps the phone's internal components cool down by conducting the produced heat outside.
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So, when the temperature outside is hot the device get's cooler ? Is that what your implying ?
Wow,how did you managed to go to 66 C on the gs3. I,even with the charger plugged in and playing heavy games(MC4,NFSMW) i couldn't make it even to 45 C
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Thin_Bezel said:
Wow,how did you managed to go to 66 C on the gs3. I,even with the charger plugged in and playing heavy games(MC4,NFSMW) i couldn't make it even to 45 C
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Ooops, was a typo. 45-50 C
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So, when the temperature outside is hot the device get's cooler ? Is that what your implying ?
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Yes. The glass absorbs, theoretically, some of the heat inside, and helps keeping the device cool.
Hi,
I agree... I had the 3 phones.
Maybe a thread that can help user about temperature or "pseudo" overheating...
When I see a thread like "My Nexus 4 is overheating, help me" it annoys me. No CPU / battery temperature indicating to see, just a "it feels hot, it overheats" or "I see some threads about Nexus 4 overheating, mine is also overheating, I read it " (it's real ).
Plus people confuse CPU / battery temperature...
Or people complain about "overheating" when playing a game or browsing while charging their phone...
Even 70°C for the CPU temperature is (almost for the the stressed people) nothing and there is a thermal protection in any case. Thermal throttling that reduces the CPU freq according to the CPU temp, same thing for the battery. And in case of extreme temperature -> shutdown.
I remember the max CPU temp for the Galaxy Nexus: 120°C before shutdown , it's not the same CPU but it can give an idea... The max for mine was about 90°C with some benchs, I see some people (simms22 if I remember right ) with something like about 110°C...
With my Nexus 4 (about 21°C room temperature):
Iddle temperature: 24 / 26°C for the CPU and 21°C for the battery
Light use after 15 / 20 mins (XDA app in 3g, homescreen setting): about 38 / 42°C (about 45°C with only XDA app) for the CPU and about 26 / 28 °C for the battery.
Hard use (browsing in 3g, Youtube, camera): about 55°C for the CPU and 31 / 32 °C for the battery (for this I don't remember exactly).
Extreme use (multiple benchs): about 72°C as far as I see for the CPU and about 38 / 40°C for the battery (maybe 42,**°C once).
Browsing while charging the battery is about 44°C and the CPU about 60°C +.
With _motley kernel, no undervolt, 486 Mhz / 1.51 Ghz, and CPU temp set to 70°C before thermal throttling.
I do agree that some people can have an overheating problem but not all the users / phones like we can read in different threads... and people that claims their phones overheats... when tey post the temperatures all is normal...
The feeling of warmth and real heat are two different things and it's very subjective to say "my phone is very hot".
Hi Viking37,
I feel fortable after reading your post.
I have been using Nexus 4 for a month on 4.2.2. and feel very bad on the heating and warm. (compared with previous Desire HD temperature)
I am based on Bateria App, showing only the Battery Temperature.
On Light use after 15 / 20 mins (Chrome or Dolphin browser on 3G): about 30 to 42°C on Battery, but i do not have CPU readings.
On Hard use after 30-45 mins (Youtube, Waze on 3G): about 30 to 42°C on Battery, but i do not have CPU readings.
I noticed i do not gets battery temp reading more than 42°C....
Hope you can advise what app you use to check the Battery and CPU temperature.
Thanks.
Hi ykit88,
You're welcome
For the CPU temperature I use System Tuner pro (on the Play Store and there is a free version), you can add a widget or download for free an "extension" to add the CPU temperature reading in the notification bar (you can set different update time).
There is also at least one more app (I mean that it works perfectly but I don't remember the name).
Your battery temp seems normal to me, it depends also of the room temperature and if you have a case (even if it does not have much influence).
@OP I don't know maybe is just because of Easter but I can't understand your first post, - is just too many Galaxies and I don't think there's Galaxy Nexus 4? But I may be as well wrong.
On the other hand phone getting hot is not an issue for me as HTC Desire used to get a lot hotter just with some browsing where you could smell a little bit of plastic
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Hi,
I agree... I had the 3 phones.
Maybe a thread that can help user about temperature or "pseudo" overheating...
When I see a thread like "My Nexus 4 is overheating, help me" it annoys me. No CPU / battery temperature indicating to see, just a "it feels hot, it overheats" or "I see some threads about Nexus 4 overheating, mine is also overheating, I read it " (it's real ).
Plus people confuse CPU / battery temperature...
Or people complain about "overheating" when playing a game or browsing while charging their phone...
Even 70°C for the CPU temperature is (almost for the the stressed people) nothing and there is a thermal protection in any case. Thermal throttling that reduces the CPU freq according to the CPU temp, same thing for the battery. And in case of extreme temperature -> shutdown.
I remember the max CPU temp for the Galaxy Nexus: 120°C before shutdown , it's not the same CPU but it can give an idea... The max for mine was about 90°C with some benchs, I see some people (simms22 if I remember right ) with something like about 110°C...
With my Nexus 4 (about 21°C room temperature):
Iddle temperature: 24 / 26°C for the CPU and 21°C for the battery
Light use after 15 / 20 mins (XDA app in 3g, homescreen setting): about 38 / 42°C (about 45°C with only XDA app) for the CPU and about 26 / 28 °C for the battery.
Hard use (browsing in 3g, Youtube, camera): about 55°C for the CPU and 31 / 32 °C for the battery (for this I don't remember exactly).
Extreme use (multiple benchs): about 72°C as far as I see for the CPU and about 38 / 40°C for the battery (maybe 42,**°C once).
Browsing while charging the battery is about 44°C and the CPU about 60°C +.
With _motley kernel, no undervolt, 486 Mhz / 1.51 Ghz, and CPU temp set to 70°C before thermal throttling.
I do agree that some people can have an overheating problem but not all the users / phones like we can read in different threads... and people that claims their phones overheats... when tey post the temperatures all is normal...
The feeling of warmth and real heat are two different things and it's very subjective to say "my phone is very hot".
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this. im sooo tired of telling people that their cpu temp is normal. it bugs me to see people posting that their phone is overheating at 45C, lol. someone even claimed that their 36C phone is overheating, when body temp is 37C
Very good explanation don't forgot the desire has only a single core. While the nexus 4 has 4 cores . It's only natural that it would get warm
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this. im sooo tired of telling people that their cpu temp is normal. it bugs me to see people posting that their phone is overheating at 45C, lol. someone even claimed that their 36C phone is overheating, when body temp is 37C
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i can barely feel the warmth of my phone at 34°C and i never even reached 40° due to uv
The really only reason why everyone has this idea of overheating is because the glass. It was mentioned a thousand times because glass conducts heat :
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Has anyone felt the phone get hotter with a case on rather than it being naked?
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Has anyone felt the phone get hotter with a case on rather than it being naked?
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Well, if you think a bit about it, it makes a lot of sense.
yo2boy said:
Has anyone felt the phone get hotter with a case on rather than it being naked?
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Depends on what case your using.
Thin_Bezel said:
Wow,how did you managed to go to 66 C on the gs3. I,even with the charger plugged in and playing heavy games(MC4,NFSMW) i couldn't make it even to 45 C
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He said t999 your on the 9300 different phones. The s3 T999 does heat up pretty quick but compared to my g2x that really did overheat occasionally thee's run cold
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Hi guys,
What is safe Tegra 3 temperature? I tried SetCPU stability test for 20 minutes at 1.6GHz and System Tuner Pro showed 72C. I'm correct, 80C is bad? I also suppose SetCPU stability test is more aggressive, than games or any other apps.
I user to run v10a firmware which often ran to 80° with no ill effects. I would be concerned if it rose any higher. The phone is built to shut down at 90° so I wouldn't worry too much, it can handle the heat
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i had my device shut down twice while running werewolf with no skin throttle. i put the shutdown temp at 80 degs celsius. this happened after an hour of gaming. so yeah, it could probably run even more. i think default nvidia's shutdown temp is 120(!) degs celsius. not sure where i read it though.
I have throttle set to 75 and shutdown to 85. This is more than enough for me.
I wouldn't let my device go anywhere higher than 80C... It might be able to handle more than 80, but I'm not willing to risk it
Winudert said:
Hi guys,
What is safe Tegra 3 temperature? I tried SetCPU stability test for 20 minutes at 1.6GHz and System Tuner Pro showed 72C. I'm correct, 80C is bad? I also suppose SetCPU stability test is more aggressive, than games or any other apps.
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I saw it from a kernel's changelog (don't remember the kernel's name), it said in the changelog "Tegra 3 default safe temperature : 85 C"
but I wouldn't recommend going above 80 C, it would reduce lifespan of your phone, not even mentioning the battery.Since battery is pretty close to tegra 3 chip, it gets effected by the heat chip generates
The main problem with high temperatures is not the chipset-temperature but the battery shouldn't get too hot. Li-batteries will be destroyed on high temperature. It's around 50 °C.
Did you hear about bloated or exploded phone batteries? This were cases of high temperatures.
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The main problem with high temperatures is not the chipset-temperature but the battery shouldn't get too hot. Li-batteries will be destroyed on high temperature. It's around 50 °C.
Did you hear about bloated or exploded phone batteries? This were cases of high temperatures.
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Strange thing. Hot in the SoC area (top), not at all where battery is.
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Strange thing. Hot in the SoC area (top), not at all where battery is.
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Because it is actually the SoC what gets hot. Look at temperatures in Trickster mod (or any similar app).
Better be careful, be careful burned out CPU
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Better be careful, be careful burned out CPU
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It's just one thing - Tegra 3 chip is awful. I watched a lot of review of Optimus 4X HD, but not in one was talked about awesome hot, sadly. Though Tegra 5 are looking very nice now with Kepler GPU, but I'm furious on nVidia and when I will buy phone next year, it not will be powered by nVidia chip. I'm crossing fingers on next gen Intel Atom SoC.
Some phones are great to take camping because if you play Asphalt 8 long enough, the back warms up to the ideal temperature that can bake bread. Rate this thread to express the extent to which the Moto G4 Plus stays cool under extended heavy use. A higher rating indicates that even when playing strenuous games for long periods of time, the phone doesn't get uncomfortably warm.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
It's a bit different. Gaming doesn't heat up the phone as much as video recording especially on 1080p.
Else it's gr8
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It's a bit different. Gaming doesn't heat up the phone as much as video recording especially on 1080p.
Else it's fine.
Does your phone get a little warm when using the turbo charger? also, I am wondering if I should use a regular 1amp charger when I am not in a rush, I guess it prolongs battery life... not sure if using the turbo all the time is good..
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Does your phone get a little warm when using the turbo charger? also, I am wondering if I should use a regular 1amp charger when I am not in a rush, I guess it prolongs battery life... not sure if using the turbo all the time is good..
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Yes, as most of the turbo devices, moto g4 plus too heats up a bit while turbo charging. And since it's a chipset feature, we shouldn't worry. I think it's best to use the charger shipped with the set.
I'm stock systemless rooted and my device doesn't heat up that much, even with the turbo charger plugged in. I will admit though, using the elementalX kernel made my device REALLY hot when charging!!!!!! The OP of that ElementalX said it's not his kernel but it is, I don't have a problem when I'm not using it. oh well, man.
ChunkyLAD said:
I'm stock systemless rooted and my device doesn't heat up that much, even with the turbo charger plugged in. I will admit though, using the elementalX kernel made my device REALLY hot when charging!!!!!! The OP of that ElementalX said it's not his kernel but it is, I don't have a problem when I'm not using it. oh well, man.
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flar2 is right. Heating issue during turbo charge shouldn't be due to the kernel coz all the voltages are the same as stock. Did u overclock while installing the kernel (in aroma installer)?
Coz I'm using ElementalX kernel with 1.5 GHz of CPU and there's no difference yet.
I'll re-install and overclock the CPU to max and see if it heats up more.
No heat, whatsoever! I dont play games, but I'm a heavy user. The phones is much cooler than any phone I've owned. I didn't take the latest update.
My phone Heats up when i use camera... in abt 15 mins of use also it heats up quite a bit... and during turbo charging it also heats up bu not that much... sometimes we can feel the heat of the phone while it in our Jeans pocket also.
No heating issue here even while charging.
vatsalbh9 said:
My phone Heats up when i use camera... in abt 15 mins of use also it heats up quite a bit... and during turbo charging it also heats up bu not that much... sometimes we can feel the heat of the phone while it in our Jeans pocket also.
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Heating while long use of camera and turbo charging is normal. I have seen phones getting hot in pocket for quite some devices... It's because of proximity sensor acting up, but it doesn't drain battery so little bit of heat is fine with me.
I only noticed little bit warming when charger is connected... as is it supossed to be.
Phone became really hot while playing HEVC x265 video on MX Player. Anyone experienced a similar problem?
The phone easily goes around 44 degree Celsius while charging it.
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view this video for heating problem in moto g4 plus
https://youtu.be/B8WEsHHPk3g
cool_sid said:
flar2 is right. Heating issue during turbo charge shouldn't be due to the kernel coz all the voltages are the same as stock. Did u overclock while installing the kernel (in aroma installer)?
Coz I'm using ElementalX kernel with 1.5 GHz of CPU and there's no difference yet.
I'll re-install and overclock the CPU to max and see if it heats up more.
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I'm not getting it...We have the solution of heating issue of Moto g4 plus...I think elementx kernel is the key if I will underclock the CPU to 1.2GHz(4cores) and 1GHz(4cores) will it stop heating up and is there is way to disable fast charging....And lock the maximum phone temperature to 39°C so that if cannot cross that and over heats
Ayan0 said:
I'm not getting it...We have the solution of heating issue of Moto g4 plus...I think elementx kernel is the key if I will underclock the CPU to 1.2GHz(4cores) and 1GHz(4cores) will it stop heating up and is there is way to disable fast charging....And lock the maximum phone temperature to 39°C so that if cannot cross that and over heats
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The heating will decrease significantly but so will the performance, but according to me elemental x kernel or any custom kernel in fact solves the problem, moreover I did not face the heating issue on the custom roms with stock kernel too, not as much as that on stock rom.
I played asphalt 8 from the phone on the TV through DLNA, the device warmed up just a little
Asphalt 8 needs to improve on the use of the processor
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The heating will decrease significantly but so will the performance, but according to me elemental x kernel or any custom kernel in fact solves the problem, moreover I did not face the heating issue on the custom roms with stock kernel too, not as much as that on stock rom.
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I did 2 Antutu benches on another thread, and interestingly, performance doesn't take a significant hit with throttled/unplugged cores:
4 cores, min 806 MHz, max 1209 MHz (LITTLE cluster): 40K
8 cores all plugged, OC'ed to 1641 MHz (big cluster), all other values same: 46K
The first test resulted in a lukewarm phone, while the second resulted in a phone that was burning hot (CPU was at 45 C for first test, 66 C second test). And, not to mention the massive battery drain as well.
Yep ! There's heating issues with my Moto G4 Plus and it's not gone even after updating to Nougat. Currently I'm in March 2017 security patch and still no reduction in heating. Heating occurs mainly during :
1. Heavy Gaming (Mainly encountered while playing Asphalt only)
2. Using rear cam for more than 15 minutes, especially outdoors during bright lighting conditions.
3.While charging the phone using Turbo Charger.