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OTA after root?

I've seen a few mentions if this, but never a straight answer (sorry if I just missed something similar to my post.) After a root, what is needed to perform an OTA update? (given that Samsung's eventually comes out) Will I need to unroot? Will it just work? I'm a noob for android, coming from WM.
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From what I've read, and been told, just simply un root, and perform the OTA!
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Also forgot to add this: if I unroot, will I still have my unlocked market sources? (Ability to sideload, w/e you call it...)
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You do not need to unroot to recieve OTA updates. However when you recieve one it will unroot on it's own. Yes you will remove your unlocked market access, I am fairly certain that you need to be rooted to use this. I could be wrong about the later. There aren't any OTA updates at the moment so don't unroot prematurely. Just keep and eye on the forums and you will know when an OTA update is available and what you should do from there.

I've been keeping my eyes out, but thanks for the heads up. If I lose non-market access, will it uninstall my third-party apps?
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your apps will stay as they've already been installed..

Another quick question here, can you just unroot if you're using a different kernel (SRE) to get the OTA patch?
Thanks

Until we get a push it's hard to know if it'll work or not. Stay tuned to xda, I am.
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Is This root for AT&T Safe to do?

This is a root I recently came across online by a dev. I'm new to android so wanted to make sure this is safe to perform on my AT&T Note 3? Any suggestions. Go to this link to see the root provided: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2474422

check this thread your question has been answered there, i linked to the particular post

Designgears is a great dev. If he says it's safe then it's safe.
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As long as you understand what you are doing at each step of instructions, it's safe. DG never goes wrong.
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mehdi_s82 said:
As long as you understand what you are doing at each step of instructions, it's safe. DG never goes wrong.
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Agreed. I don't understand what to do hence why I have not rooted yet. Once I read and re-read all these subjects then I may give it a shot.

Does anyone know if this root method will prevent future OTA updates? I had my Note 2 rooted and had to go through hell and high water to search and install rooted/deodexed updates each time they were pushed out, as a result of rooting the device.

uhwarrior6608 said:
Does anyone know if this root method will prevent future OTA updates? I had my Note 2 rooted and had to go through hell and high water to search and install rooted/deodexed updates each time they were pushed out, as a result of rooting the device.
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Rooting won't stop the updates but it will allow you to install titanium backup and freeze the services that the updates rely on.

You just have to remove the ota app. It's only an app on pretty much all android phones that actually controls ota updates.
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Thanks for the responses. To clarify... I *want* OTA updates. I don't mind the stock ROMs (as long as I have root to freeze bloatware) pushed from AT&T. Note 2 rooted changed the device to "modified" and when OTA updates were available, they could not be downloaded or installed. Hence, I had to search for stock ROMs that had been rooted and deodexed.

kitsinni said:
Rooting won't stop the updates but it will allow you to install titanium backup and freeze the services that the updates rely on.
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actually.... Root de la Vega should stop ota updates already because it has a build number that samsung should never release a ota for.

Verizon OTA VS98012B don't lose ROOT

Just read on Droid-life that the second update for LG G2 for Verizon has been approved. We aren't getting 4.3 just yet, but a few fixes. I was looking forward to fixing camera issues and that annoying jittery touch screen. Either way if you don't want to take a chance of losing root, tethering or/and if you have a custom recovery installed (TWRP and CWM) then you probably want to wait until the update get broken down so we can apply the update without losing ROOT or custom recovery.
I used Titanium Backup to FREEZE
"Software update MUC 6.4.1_B02-LG"
hit my blog for other LG G2 related stuff.
tabletuser.blogspot.com

cesar33 said:
Just read on Droid-life that the second update for LG G2 for Verizon has been approved. We aren't getting 4.3 just yet, but a few fixes. I was looking forward to fixing camera issues and that annoying jittery touch screen. Either way if you don't want to take a chance of losing root, tethering or/and if you have a custom recovery installed (TWRP and CWM) then you probably want to wait until the update get broken down so we can apply the update without losing ROOT or custom recovery.
I used Titanium Backup to FREEZE
"Software update MUC 6.4.1_B02-LG"
hit my blog for other LG G2 related stuff.
tabletuser.blogspot.com
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That's always the rule of thumb... ota = the devil. I always wait for rooted ota zips for any device. If you don't and you ota and lose root and your first born everyone will just say "Never ota. Hopefully they find a new exploit"
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you can root the 12B ota, just cant install custom recovery....yet
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2577153&page=9
check post #51

simon_lefisch said:
you can root the 12B ota, just cant install custom recovery....yet
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2577153&page=9
check post #51
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any change to this yet? Can stock rooted 12b have CWM now?

litobirdy said:
any change to this yet? Can stock rooted 12b have CWM now?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48879826
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You can root and install custom recoveries now on 12B.
24A Kitkat is released too. So you'll want to root before updating because kitkat hasn't been rooted yet, on any device.
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player911 said:
You can root and install custom recoveries now on 12B.
24A Kitkat is released too. So you'll want to root before updating because kitkat hasn't been rooted yet, on any device.
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24A KK is released.... where?

player911 said:
You can root and install custom recoveries now on 12B.
So you'll want to root before updating because kitkat hasn't been rooted yet, on any device.
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"one" device has been rooted [emoji6]
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24A is posted in Verizon Dev.
I'm pretty sure 4.2.2 can be rooted. Its 4.4 that hasn't been rooted yet, on any device. The G2 is one of the lucky few because updates don't kill root.
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So being that I have only had the g2 less than a month..and I'm not super familiar with adb, is there a better guide to get root on Verizon?
I have the root on any device, but can't get an adb window to "check devices"
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Well you have to make sure the right driver is installed and adb drivers are good. Check USB Debugging. Put USB Connection to ETHERNET, do ADB DEVICES in a command prompt. You should get a popup on the phone asking permission to allow adb.
Pretty easy.
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Nevermind. I got it. Thanks for taking the time to reply.

Maintaining root

I'm still running android 4.2.2(no otas) and I was wondering if root keep works in this device.
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Biom4st3r said:
I'm still running android 4.2.2(no otas) and I was wondering if root keep works in this device.
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You mean if you upgrade?
If you have an unlocked bootloader, yes, you can root and disable write protection no matter what ROM is on your X.
If you can't unlock your bootloader, then you are safe to install 4.2.2 with camera fix update, or 4.4 update. You can continue to use SlapMyMoto to root, and MotoWPNoMo to disable write protection.
BUT DO NOT install 4.4.2. If you have rooted with SlapMyMoto/MotoWpNoMo and take the 4.4.2 OTA, you might keep root, but will lose the important Write Protection Disabled that MotoWpNoMo gave you, with no way to get it back. When Write Protection is enabled (the phone's default state with locked bootloader, or the state you are in after you take the 4.4.2 OTA), any changes made to /system, or the like, (including, but not limited to, App installs, file modifications, deletions, renames, etc) are not permanent and are lost at power off/on.
SlapMyMoto doesn't work on 4.4.2, and at this time, no new working root exploit and process has been released. And part of the 4.4.2 update patches the exploit that MotoWpNoMo used, so it wont work.
The 4.4.2 update also updates the bootloader which will prevent safely being able to downgrade the ROM version on your phone. If you try to flash 4.4. or lower, you will either brick your phone, or get it in a state where you will brick when taking an update.

So then I could still take the camera update as long as I don't go to 4.4?
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Biom4st3r said:
So then I could still take the camera update as long as I don't go to 4.4?
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You can still root 4.4 as well. Its 4.4.2 that You can't, and you'd want to stay away from if you have a locked bootloader.

Biom4st3r said:
So then I could still take the camera update as long as I don't go to 4.4?
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You should check the stickies on that. The rooting methods have been updated a lot since pre camera 4.2.2 which is what you're on. Please read the stickies and Jcase's root threads as those are going to give you the best info.

Oh ok thank you both!
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Does that mean I can't root XT1053

Is there a simpler way to upgrade from 4.3 to 4.4?

Now that we have root for 4.4, I'm planning to upgrade from 4.3 to 4.4, but I haven't come across any simple method to do it. Mazdamiata has a method to do it, but it requires downgrading to MJ5, which would be a huge inconvenience. My update fails at 27% even with all the original apps restored and unfrozen. I have Xposed installed and my device is rooted with Kingo. Any suggestions?

I'm with you! I sat down and wanted to upgrade to kit Kat but following those directions were not easy for me. I am now stuck on 4.3 until there is an easier way to get there. What stinks is there isn't even a YouTube video to show how to go back to mj5 and the upgrade

Isn't there any other solution to safely upgrade without reverting to MJ5?

here you go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2712039

kobeback said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2712039
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Thanks, but it's not a simple method and has steps to install other components which increase the complexity.
Is the best way just to factory reset my device, retain the root and then try to upgrade?

Factory reset then upgrade to kit kat then root with towelroot
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antawnm26 said:
Factory reset then upgrade to kit kat then root with towelroot
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I don't think it's that easy. Please try and let us know if factory reset they update works?

It won't there is a thread in the general section that tells you how to do it
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antawnm26 said:
Factory reset then upgrade to kit kat then root with towelroot
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Did that work for you?

No I didn't do it exactly that way....I wasn't rooted at all
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You could go to a best buy and request them to reflash it for you.
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mrkhigh said:
You could go to a best buy and request them to reflash it for you.
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I went to best buy and they said since I was rooted the could not re flash

Unroot?
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doesn't Kingo give you the option to UnRoot?
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I've wondered if we undid whatever frozen apps ect then used the kingo unroot if we would get the ability to upgrade.
Kingo renamed some files and installed a few
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mrkhigh said:
I've wondered if we undid whatever frozen apps ect then used the kingo unroot if we would get the ability to upgrade.
Kingo renamed some files and installed a few
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thats exactly what im currently trying. i went into tibu, did a batch unfreeze, then used kingo to unroot. restarted and am now downloading the update. hopefully it will get me up to kitkat and let me root again with towelroot.

Let us know if it works then all I have to do is unfreeze the updater apo and unroot with kingo
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nope didn't work... it would download, then when it tries to install the update, it stops at about 24%, reboots and gives an error saying update interrupted.
I tried manually doing it also by putting the update file on SD card and applying in recovery mode... it starts, errors, and wiped my data....
the only way seems to be the harder way heh
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There is a thread that talked about what files to rename and delete but nobody ever got it written down perfectly
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