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[Q] Is Xperia T better than Samsung Galaxy S III ?

I'm going to buy a new phone. I don't know what to go for. I'm between those two. Can You tell me all the good and bad things?

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If you want i cell my sg3 to buy one xperia t.
I've cell my xperia S one week ago for the sg3.But i want to return to Sony.For sure we don't have a lot of dev's for sony, in sg3 developement there is a lot.
It's all time the same think with sony divices.
But i like Sony.
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sessel said:
If you want i cell my sg3 to buy one xperia t.
I've cell my xperia S one week ago for the sg3.But i want to return to Sony.For sure we don't have a lot of dev's for sony, in sg3 developement there is a lot.
It's all time the same think with sony divices.
But i like Sony.
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You're getting one more in short.
Moving from Samsung Galaxy S III to Sony Xperia T.

codeworkx said:
You're getting one more in short.
Moving from Samsung Galaxy S III to Sony Xperia T.
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Luckers!!
I myself a S3 user might try out Sony for the first time ever! if I see some nice reviews from people I like to hear from.
And depends on its price locally
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cube76 said:
I'm going to buy a new phone. I don't know what to go for. I'm between those two. Can You tell me all the good and bad things?
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It's a vast topic and I've only had my Xperia T for a couple of days, so I can't properly quantify battery life just yet, but here goes.
Overall, I'm going to say, "no, the Xperia T isn't better than the S III." The S III is, for me, a more complete package. That's not to say that the Xperia T is bad, not by a long shot, but it doesn't feel so all-encompassing as the S III. The S III wins on points rather than a knock-out, but from the top...
The Xperia T's screen is beautiful. It's sharp and responsive and has BRAVIA. The Samsung's screen feels overly saturated, but it's also a beautiful one. I've found the S III's screen to be a little bit more responsive than the T but I prefer the Sony colours.
As far as performance and feel go, both feel fluid and responsive and both will very occasionally jerk or stutter, but the S III does it that little bit less than the Xperia T. I feel like I'm splitting hairs here. It isn't a deal breaker for me.
The S III's camera is very impressive indeed. I was a little disappointed with the Xperia T's camera; more pixels, but not set up from the factory to be so fast. With some tweaking (enable touch take) it's much better, but when working with images, the Xperia T is noticeably slower. Sure. Fewer pixels to shunt around memory and a more capable processor (depending how we measure it...), but this is where the Xperia disappoints me.
What they look like is personal preference, but at the moment there are way more cases and accessories for the S III compared with the Xperia T. The S III is much thinner, the Xperia T is more comfortable to hold than the Xperia S and as great as the S III - but this is as much down to personal preference as anything. I don't much mind for soft buttons or real buttons, both work just fine (and I adapt between them).
It feels like a moot point, but I don't like Samsung's default keyboard one bit. I use SwiftKey 3 and I use it on both devices, so nae bother the big yin as you can change it. Likewise with ICS you can disable junk you don't need, but the Xperia T comes with more stuff on there that I don't need.
For me, it comes down to speed. The Xperia T is a fast and fluid handset, but the S III feels that little bit quicker and more fluid. If you've used neither then you probably won't feel that big of a difference.
Hopefully that helps. The Xperia T plays the value card and it's a decent handset, but the key strength of the camera feels just a little bit hamstrung by the device being slower than the Samsung flagship.

Hi guys
Loved my Xperia S but returned it due to problems(screen) within 30 days from amazon. I have the galaxy s3 (New upgrade) but its going back for the Xperia T, the hardware on the s3 is great, still not sold on Amoled screen though, love the software on the Sony, Xperia T arrives on Monday hope I've made the right decision glad Sony now allow micro sd or wouldn't of bothered.

The Xperia T feels really solid compared to the S3 which feels cheap.
It's having an very unique and great look.
Sony's software is so much better than overbloated Touchwiz.
It's not having 1000 features added like Touchwiz, but i'm not using that stuff anyway.
I prefer clean software. Everything is where you would expect it.
Sony's software is mature and not childish like Touchwiz.
No annoying sounds and colors.
I'm really impressed.
http://imgur.com/a/L0L1E#0
http://imgur.com/a/3UFdr#0
But anyway, it has to go away for CyanogenMod.

codeworkx said:
The Xperia T feels really solid compared to the S3 which feels cheap.
It's having an very unique and great look.
Sony's software is so much better than overbloated Touchwiz.
It's not having 1000 features added like Touchwiz, but i'm not using that stuff anyway.
I prefer clean software. Everything is where you would expect it.
Sony's software is mature and not childish like Touchwiz.
No annoying sounds and colors.
I'm really impressed.
http://imgur.com/a/L0L1E#0
http://imgur.com/a/3UFdr#0
But anyway, it has to go away for CyanogenMod.
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wowoww.. thanks a lot bro!
cant wait to listen to your progress about cm on xperia t
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codeworkx said:
The Xperia T feels really solid compared to the S3 which feels cheap.
It's having an very unique and great look.
Sony's software is so much better than overbloated Touchwiz.
It's not having 1000 features added like Touchwiz, but i'm not using that stuff anyway.
I prefer clean software. Everything is where you would expect it.
Sony's software is mature and not childish like Touchwiz.
No annoying sounds and colors.
I'm really impressed.
http://imgur.com/a/L0L1E#0
http://imgur.com/a/3UFdr#0
But anyway, it has to go away for CyanogenMod.
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Grats on your new toy codeworkx
Would love to hear you opinion regarding the phone snapyness and response plus battery consumption compared to the s3.
The shipped ROM looks decent and people can live with it tbh not like ****wiz.
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Bought Xperia T
I bought today Xperia T. I've tried S3 for a week. It is really difficult to say wich one is better. My choice was Sony because... I like Sony.
Size, Apps - personal preferences
Speed - very close
Quality - both very good
Buttons - I like S3 main button, but I've missed camera button even more
Battery - Hard to say. I was using both phones a lot, and i don't say any bad words about any of them. But You can't use a spare battery with Sony. But I never used any spare one with any other phones.
Only one big thing for Samsung. DEVELOPERS.

cube76 said:
I bought today Xperia T. I've tried S3 for a week. It is really difficult to say wich one is better. My choice was Sony because... I like Sony.
Size, Apps - personal preferences
Speed - very close
Quality - both very good
Buttons - I like S3 main button, but I've missed camera button even more
Battery - Hard to say. I was using both phones a lot, and i don't say any bad words about any of them. But You can't use a spare battery with Sony. But I never used any spare one with any other phones.
Only one big thing for Samsung. DEVELOPERS.
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Developers - hopefully not for long...

codeworkx said:
You're getting one more in short.
Moving from Samsung Galaxy S III to Sony Xperia T.
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Okay, I am completely sold. Getting the T. Next week. CAN'T WAIT !

Just swapped Galaxy s 3 for Xperia T a few days ago.
Pros:
1. The Software is way better on the Xperia T. Love the task manager with small apps. Xperia link with my Xperia tablet s is a god send.
2. Dedicated Camera button is a must for decent photos.
3. I prefer the colours of the Xperia Ts Screen.
4. The speaker quality is brilliant in calls and movies.
5. Headphone sound quality is richer.
6. Phone is sturdier and feels like a premium product.
7. Keyboard has better sensitivity.
8. PlayStation gaming coming soon, rumoured full wireless dual shock 3 support
9. GPS lock on is fantastic. Really quick and gets it even inside my house.
10. The Xperia T gui is just as smooth as the galaxy s3 and the speed is just as fast in loading and running apps bar some intensive games.
Cons:
1: Games run better, more smoother on the s3 (on really demanding games)
2. Development/community is better on s3
3. Looks like the s3 has jellybean first
4. No burst mode on the Xperia T camera?
5. So far battery life seems better on the s3 but that may be as im hammering the Xperia T as its new.
6. More official accessories available on the S3, where are the Xperia T official cases?!
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What about smoothness compared to the S3? And speed obv.
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The gui is just as smooth and just as fast at loading apps
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jkr284 said:
Just swapped Galaxy s 3 for Xperia T a few days ago.
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Cons:
1: Games run better, more smoother on the s3 (on really demanding games)
2. Development/community is better on s3
3. Looks like the s3 has jellybean first
4. No burst mode on the Xperia T camera?
5. So far battery life seems better on the s3 but that may be as im hammering the Xperia T as its new.
6. More official accessories available on the S3, where are the Xperia T official cases?!
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For the cons I've highlighted above I'd say that they are obvious due to the fact the S3 has had a good few months to build this developer base and also for retailers to release accessories. Only way to do a like for like is give the phone x more months and then compare how the S3 is now to how that is in the allotted time. If you look at the S3 after a week from release date all the available ROM's/mods/accessories weren't there straight away it took time to build up. For these reasons none of these are cons for me
Oh and I'm also looking at the Xperia T as my next phone in November unless Google makes an exciting announcement on the next Nexus phone/series by then.

codeworkx said:
You're getting one more in short.
Moving from Samsung Galaxy S III to Sony Xperia T.
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Unless AT&T locks the bootloader, I'm likely to get a TL - which is almost exactly identical to the T.
Only thing is I kind of want to wait for the next Nexuses... But I'm kind of thinking of using my XDA ERD perk to get the TL and then personal cash for a Nex.

davidsteele1975 said:
It's a vast topic and I've only had my Xperia T for a couple of days, so I can't properly quantify battery life just yet, but here goes.
Overall, I'm going to say, "no, the Xperia T isn't better than the S III." The S III is, for me, a more complete package. That's not to say that the Xperia T is bad, not by a long shot, but it doesn't feel so all-encompassing as the S III. The S III wins on points rather than a knock-out, but from the top...
The Xperia T's screen is beautiful. It's sharp and responsive and has BRAVIA. The Samsung's screen feels overly saturated, but it's also a beautiful one. I've found the S III's screen to be a little bit more responsive than the T but I prefer the Sony colours.
As far as performance and feel go, both feel fluid and responsive and both will very occasionally jerk or stutter, but the S III does it that little bit less than the Xperia T. I feel like I'm splitting hairs here. It isn't a deal breaker for me.
The S III's camera is very impressive indeed. I was a little disappointed with the Xperia T's camera; more pixels, but not set up from the factory to be so fast. With some tweaking (enable touch take) it's much better, but when working with images, the Xperia T is noticeably slower. Sure. Fewer pixels to shunt around memory and a more capable processor (depending how we measure it...), but this is where the Xperia disappoints me.
What they look like is personal preference, but at the moment there are way more cases and accessories for the S III compared with the Xperia T. The S III is much thinner, the Xperia T is more comfortable to hold than the Xperia S and as great as the S III - but this is as much down to personal preference as anything. I don't much mind for soft buttons or real buttons, both work just fine (and I adapt between them).
It feels like a moot point, but I don't like Samsung's default keyboard one bit. I use SwiftKey 3 and I use it on both devices, so nae bother the big yin as you can change it. Likewise with ICS you can disable junk you don't need, but the Xperia T comes with more stuff on there that I don't need.
For me, it comes down to speed. The Xperia T is a fast and fluid handset, but the S III feels that little bit quicker and more fluid. If you've used neither then you probably won't feel that big of a difference.
Hopefully that helps. The Xperia T plays the value card and it's a decent handset, but the key strength of the camera feels just a little bit hamstrung by the device being slower than the Samsung flagship.
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I appreciate this unbiased comparison.
I want to upgrade from my Galaxy S2 soon and i am tempted by the Xperia T,
I played with an instore demo and it felt slightly slower then the S3 in store demo. It could of been because of every single timescape widget running lol.
i wanted to remove the widgets and reset the phone but i think the store would frown on that.
So it's only a little slower and may lag/stutter slightly more?
The screen - the timescape interface is so dull it doesn't do it justice. I watched a demo video showing sea life etc and it was incredible. Yet Gsmarena tested the phone and it's viewing angles and contrast ratio is below that of the iphone 4 (a 2 year old screen). that was disappointing. Now i don't know what to think
But it's so much more comfortable in the hand...i know i will drop the S3!

I personally find it quicker than my S3 in day to day use, chrome also runs a lot better.

I want to upgrade to Xperia Z, but i have some questions first.

hi, i have an htc one s and i want to upgrade. after some searches i think that XZ is the phone for me. but first i have some questions
1) I have read that after the 4.2.2 patch the phone can support exFAT microSD cards, is this true? (it is important to me because i want to transfer files bigger than 4gb)
2)If the previous is true, how do you format the microSD cards? from the phone or from pc?
3) any idea on the availability of the 4.2.2 patch? i live in romania and i want to know if it's available
4) i have read on sony forums that after the 4.2.2 patch some users complained of lag in various areas, such as swaping through menus, gallery, games etc. anyone else experience this?
5) i watch movies A LOT, i often go to friends and mirror the movies from my phone to their tv through the MHL. Currently i have a samsung MHL adapter, do i need to buy another one or does this one suffice?
6) can the Xperia Z play 720p/1080p @ 48fps mkv/mp4 movies without any stutter?
7) what can you say about the camera? i mean shutter speed, low light quality, good light quality. if anyone else can compare this to an htc one s i would appreciate it.
8) how good is the screen, in your oppinion? im fairly satisfied with the amoled on the One S, and i think that switching to the Z will feel like a slight downgrade in terms of screen quality.
9) how durable is it? i dislike my one s because i feel i have to treat it like a new born baby, its made of aluminum and gets scuffs and scratches very easily.
and the most important questions:
does it blend?

All great questions. I just ordered the Z so I cannot answer them. I will let you know when I review the unit.

Warmo said:
hi, i have an htc one s and i want to upgrade. after some searches i think that XZ is the phone for me. but first i have some questions
1) I have read that after the 4.2.2 patch the phone can support exFAT microSD cards, is this true? (it is important to me because i want to transfer files bigger than 4gb)
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That's true.
2)If the previous is true, how do you format the microSD cards? from the phone or from pc?
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Pc or Phone
Phone: Settings>Storage> Unmount Sd Card > Mount SD Card and it should be done.
3) any idea on the availability of the 4.2.2 patch? i live in romania and i want to know if it's available
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That's not an issue, just download an FTF file from this forum, doesn't really matter from which country.
(Btw Sal)
4) i have read on sony forums that after the 4.2.2 patch some users complained of lag in various areas, such as swaping through menus, gallery, games etc. anyone else experience this?
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They were probably to lazy not to do a full wipe before installing 4.2.2.
I underCLOCKED my cpu to 1ghz and I have no lag and I'm not even a wizard...
5) i watch movies A LOT, i often go to friends and mirror the movies from my phone to their tv through the MHL. Currently i have a samsung MHL adapter, do i need to buy another one or does this one suffice?
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If I'm corrrect the one from Samsung works, not sure tho.
On the SonyMobile site you can buy one for about 30Euro
6) can the Xperia Z play 720p/1080p @ 48fps mkv/mp4 movies without any stutter?
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Shouldn't be a problem @ 30 fps, not sure about 48
7) what can you say about the camera? i mean shutter speed, low light quality, good light quality. if anyone else can compare this to an htc one s i would appreciate it.
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I'd like to refer you to this topic and judge for yourself:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2172712
Look from page 35 or something.
8) how good is the screen, in your oppinion? im fairly satisfied with the amoled on the One S, and i think that switching to the Z will feel like a slight downgrade in terms of screen quality.
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I also came from an Amoled phone (Galaxy Note) and I have no complaints, but that's just me, you have to judge it for yourself.
9) how durable is it? i dislike my one s because i feel i have to treat it like a new born baby, its made of aluminum and gets scuffs and scratches very easily.
Just make sure to get screen protectors before you use the phone and you should be ok, also don't forget to get a case.
and the most important questions:
does it blend?
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It does blend, but it DOES NOT BEND! So don't try it!
Pa:highfive::silly:

7) what can you say about the camera? i mean shutter speed, low light quality, good light quality. if anyone else can compare this to an htc one s i would appreciate it.
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Camera is not that great. I am an amerture photographer and I was more impressed with my last phone (i9100). Main issue is Sony overcompress the images so there is quite a lot of noise. Low light is pretty poor really but that is my opinion. If the lighting is favourable then the quality is more than acceptable.
8) how good is the screen, in your oppinion? im fairly satisfied with the amoled on the One S, and i think that switching to the Z will feel like a slight downgrade in terms of screen quality
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The screen is very sharp and brightness is good. Compared to the AMOLED of the samsungs the colours are more natural which I like. Blacks are not as good though but the Sony screen is a joy to work with none the less.
9) how durable is it? i dislike my one s because i feel i have to treat it like a new born baby, its made of aluminum and gets scuffs and scratches very easily.
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Given the Xperia is mostly glass on the outside it would be more likely to break than an aluminium one or at least twice as likely for you to end up with broken glass (ie the back or the front). Also the glass comes pre coverd with anti shatter platic film which is very easy to scratch and cannot be replaced. That said I dont use any protection with mine and I'm not that fussed. I don't expect it to look like new when I'm done with it though and I like it to be naked so it isn't bulky in my pocket. I've droped mine a couple of times and it bounced pretty well. The only marks are from when I put it it my pocket with my keys and the sharp car key marked the screen protector.

3) any idea on the availability of the 4.2.2 patch? i live in romania and i want to know if it's available
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you should try ftf for generic europe or central, or unbranded spain: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2336874
8) how good is the screen, in your oppinion? im fairly satisfied with the amoled on the One S, and i think that switching to the Z will feel like a slight downgrade in terms of screen quality.
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well, i was a bit afraid of screen angles, because a lot of people don't reccomend z because of that, however when i finally turn on the phone, i was impressed. Maybe you won't be able to check the clock when you're in bed if you have bright wallpaper, but the resolution, brightness quickly cover this minus
9) how durable is it? i dislike my one s because i feel i have to treat it like a new born baby, its made of aluminum and gets scuffs and scratches very easily.
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It's not a tough guy, better buy some kind of case, or pay some attention to it. It fell once for me from around 50-60 cm, but fortunately, nothing happend to him

thanks for all the answers, much appreciated. Only questions that are still a concern to me are 4) and 6).
so what can you tell me about the fluidity of the 4.2.2 patch and how it runs 720p/1080p @48 fps movies? i'm asking for 48 fps movies because after Pete Jackson's "The Hobbit" every single HD/fullHD movie on the internet went from ~24 fps to 48fps...

Warmo said:
thanks for all the answers, much appreciated. Only questions that are still a concern to me are 4) and 6).
so what can you tell me about the fluidity of the 4.2.2 patch and how it runs 720p/1080p @48 fps movies? i'm asking for 48 fps movies because after Pete Jackson's "The Hobbit" every single HD/fullHD movie on the internet went from ~24 fps to 48fps...
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I'd say link us a 48fps clip and we can test it for ya.

Dsteppa said:
I'd say link us a 48fps clip and we can test it for ya.
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http://www.lukeletellier.com/[email protected]+48fps+-+High+Quality.flv

I came from one s and had no regrets at all. But mine was villec2. Screen wise, I prefer z to one s.
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DrKrFfXx said:
http://www.lukeletellier.com/[email protected]+48fps+-+High+Quality.flv
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Nopes.
Of course it does play, but with hiccups and not in sync at all.
I tried it with MX Player.

(4) First, like Dsteppa (@ #3 post) said, laggy or not depends mostly on how one updates to 4.2.2 (from 4.1.2). Full wipe / factory reset / clean install do really help to avoid lagging.
I've tried serveral approaches to update my XZ to 4.2.2, and finally achieved "no lag" by doing this: format whatever partition I can think of on the phone (system, data etc.) hence resulted in "soft-brick" (phone won't boot but stuck at the SONY logo screen), then plug the phone to SONY's Update Service to repair by flashing the latest 4.2.2 onto it, followed by installing every single app back to the phone 'manually' and not through backups from Titanium Pro.
Second, lagging or not may also be app related. 2 out of 103 apps that I installed do result in sluggish and heat up when run; one is a local weather app, and the other one is Chrome. Both are running good and smooth on 4.1.2 but not on 4.2.2. My wild guess is that they're not optimized for XZ 4.2.2 yet. Freeze them with Titanium Pro (root required) and my XZ is running smooth and ice cold now.
Anyway, I believe if you get a new XZ right now, it should be with 4.2.2 out of the box, so, there shouldn't be any problem, just be aware of what app to use and you'll be fine.
(about my XZ: stock rom 423, Generic HK R4B, odexed, rooted, mod with PureXAudio v18 / Navigation Bar 36dpi)
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(6) The 'stock' movie player does have some limitations to play those formats you mentioned. "MX Player" does not.
I have tried 480/720/1080, interlaced/progressive, 23.976(or 24)/.../60fps, level 3.0/.../5.1, H.264/AVC/mpeg, AAC/Dolby AC-3/DTS (custome codec required for DTS), mkv/mp4, subtitle(s) with UTF-8 format, 10gb+ a file... etc with MX Player Pro on my XZ, play smooth and no problem so far EXCEPT those files with 10-bit color-rendering instead of the normal use of 8-bit (since 10-bit is not yet supported by hardware acceleration).
I don't have any mkv/mp4 file with HFR 48fps since I only render my DVDs and Blu-rays with framerate set as source, and there is no DVD/Blu-ray disc comes with 48fps so far in the market, including the blu-ray release of Pete Jackson's "The Hobbit", which is using 24p instead of the HFR 48fps like it's theatrical release. Reason is that today's commercial grade blu-ray player and TV doesn't support such framerate for it is not a standard yet; well, in the future yes may be. If you really want to play HFR 48 materials, you will need some industrial grade equipments, like those for use in studios.
So I doubt if XZ can really support 48fps playback; if yes, XZ won't be this small in size, plus, it won't be selling at this price.
Just a side note, movie that you download from Internet which claims itself running at 48fps, is just a gimmick and use 'fake' frame to achieve it's so-called 48fps, not true HFR 48. When playback, it won't do any good but harm your system/player since extra computing power is required to handle/correct those fake frames, which are supposingly not being there.
Hope this help.

Replace my iPhone 7 with this...?

Hi guys, I'm an owner of an iPhone 7 (second hand, but perfect) and a few months ago I had a Xperia X Compact (that I loved). I use both systems (iOS and Android) but I was thinking to come back to the little green robot. Do you think I'll lose so much in terms of video and pictures ? For the others specs I think it's a great phone, but I still have some doubts for the camera performances...
I hope in your point of view

Viossy81 said:
Do you think I'll lose so much in terms of video and pictures ?
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The video camera is top notch and no sign of any distortion, aparently enabling steady shotseems to correct the image.
I think the problems with the stills camera are overblown, I've been taking lots of pictures since I received the phone and it's hardly noticable.
Given that it's an algorithum that fixes it, I am sure it's only a matter of time before Sony release a fix.
There are so many things that the phone does right. This is such a step forward fromm the X compact.

Didgesteve said:
The video camera is top notch and no sign of any distortion, aparently enabling steady shotseems to correct the image.
I think the problems with the stills camera are overblown, I've been taking lots of pictures since I received the phone and it's hardly noticable.
Given that it's an algorithum that fixes it, I am sure it's only a matter of time before Sony release a fix.
There are so many things that the phone does right. This is such a step forward fromm the X compact.
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Thank you so much for your answer Didgesteve, I really appreciated that! One more question: what about the video quality in general? is it good? Especially for the Full HD (30 or 60 fps, I don't use 4k so much)...

Viossy81 said:
Thank you so much for your answer Didgesteve, I really appreciated that! One more question: what about the video quality in general? is it good? Especially for the Full HD (30 or 60 fps, I don't use 4k so much)...
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Video quality is very good, better than the photo quality. The main ACTUAL problem with the camera is no OIS, so pictures can come out soft, especially in low light.
This may not compare well to your Iphone7 in many ways, but Android is a different animal, altogether. camera is not on par with Iphone7, but unless you are one of these camera snobs it isn't going to bother you much. Also, Android O has some bugs to be worked out, but nothing serious.

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Video quality is very good, better than the photo quality. The main ACTUAL problem with the camera is no OIS, so pictures can come out soft, especially in low light.
This may not compare well to your Iphone7 in many ways, but Android is a different animal, altogether. camera is not on par with Iphone7, but unless you are one of these camera snobs it isn't going to bother you much. Also, Android O has some bugs to be worked out, but nothing serious.
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I see...no, I'm not so snob about it , I loved X Compact camera so much, and I found it much fun and interesting than the iPhone (in terms of software functions and possibilities), It's just curiosity because I read a lot of gripes about distortions, bad colours, and so on... I'm seriously thinking to give it a chance

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I see...no, I'm not so snob about it , I loved X Compact camera so much, and I found it much fun and interesting than the iPhone (in terms of software functions and possibilities), It's just curiosity because I read a lot of gripes about distortions, bad colours, and so on... I'm seriously thinking to give it a chance
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colors do come out a bit red-ish in low light sometimes. you won't really notice the distortion unless taking a picture of a brick wall, checkerboard or something of the like.
if you liked the X compact that much, you will likely appreciate the XZ1 compact to a great degree. the camera is (arguably) the worst feature on the phone, and i still think it's a great camera. keeping in mind that it's not an s8 or iphone8, you'll have very little issues with XZ1C.

I bought a XZ1C for these reasons, (It will arrive this week)
1. Form factor - this phone is quite a bit smaller than the iPhone 7, and the 7 is already considered small. It is a tad bit bigger than the iPhone 5 (which had the best in hand feeling to me)
2. Battery life - Champion. I need a phone that will lasts all day and i've read nothign but amazing things
3. Android 8.0 - No other device than the Pixel 2 series has this update yet. Thats cool.
4. Camera Capabilities - It can do so much, including the 3D AR thing. Pretty fun, even if it isnt the best!
5. Headphone Jack - There is one, albeit the quality and loudness not the best, but it exists.
6. Memory card slot - Self explanatory.

FWIW, Sony have revealed that they have made a camera feature to fix or minimize the distortion on stills.
Refer to https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74266872&postcount=60 that post to see. If the camera was your only hesitation for the xz1c, this should alleviate a lot of that.

You can refer to Amazon and sell it off Đánh giá iPhone 7: Sức hút đến từ đâu?

Worth buying for 250€/300$

Hi.
I've got an offer to buy a 1 month old Nokia 8 for 250 euro/300 dollars.
I've been looking at the Nokia 7 plus which is about 390 euro/460 dollar in my country.
I've got a Iphone 7 as it is, but i really wanna go back to Android now that i finally have the option and my all time favorite phone is Nexus 1, so i want so close to stock android as possible.
The biggest fear i've got is the camera. I don't want anything worse then i got today. Would you say it's worse/same/better?
Which one would you buy if you had the chance?
Thanks in advance!

Look at the specs. You will see the Nokia 8 much better than 7th.
NOKIA 8 is one of the most underrated telefon, SD 835 and 250 € it's a great deal.

Camera is bad compared to any brand flagship from past 5 years

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Camera is bad compared to any brand flagship from past 5 years
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It's the software that is crap. With Google Camera apk you get fabulous pictures.

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Camera is bad compared to any brand flagship from past 5 years
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You can replace it with Google camera app and you get premium feeling.

Depends on what you want the phone for... For me I like to try new new new, Android never my main phone, just a playground, I want to try AOSP, I like to try latest Android... My main phone is iPhone.
At the moment Nokia is not keeping up to their promise, they're busy with launching more models and Nokia 8 is not getting their May Security Patch yet, and it's not Project Treble... Camera also has no Pro Manual mode yet.
So if you want a long lasting software patching phone I suppose any of their new Android One is better...
2 days ago I was so tempted to sell off my 6 months old Nokia 8 to replace with Mi Mix 2s because of Android P beta preview. Even my Mi 5 running LineAge OS has May Security Patch!
Updated: just tried out Google camera (as others suggested) on Nokia 8, it crash my phone when I turn on Motion option, and HDR set to High quality isn't great, mainly just over exposed compared to Medium (Default).
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There is many google cameras from different devs , you need to choose one thats suits you better

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You can replace it with Google camera app and you get premium feeling.
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Premium feel is when the camera works fluently without mods. Even with mods the camera is mediocre and can't compete with any flagships past few years.

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Premium feel is when the camera works fluently without mods. Even with mods the camera is mediocre and can't compete with any flagships past few years.
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You're either a hater or you haven't held a Nokia 8 in your hands that uses Google Camera.
The results I get with this thing are better than most of the recent flagships and almost matches the images you can get on a Pixel 2.
Pls refrain from posting bull$h!t and confusing the OP. Thx.

I'm neither of what you accuse. I'm just not giving false hope for OP coming from iPhone 7 that Nokia 8 camera is on par with competition.
https://www.dxomark.com/nokia-8-review-nokias-return-high-end-segment/
You can get a little better results with mods of course, but it won't fix the limitations of that Sony sensor. It's still slow and mediocre in low light / indoors.

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I'm neither of what you accuse. I'm just not giving false hope for OP coming from iPhone 7 that Nokia 8 camera is on par with competition.
https://www.dxomark.com/nokia-8-review-nokias-return-high-end-segment/
You can get a little better results with mods of course, but it won't fix the limitations of that Sony sensor. It's still slow and mediocre in low light / indoors.
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The difference is day and night. It's not "a little better". Low light as well - drastically different than the default camera app processing.
Pls end your nonsense. It's HMD's fault that they screwed up the camera app. But this is a huge and significant mod that breathes new life into this phone's camera capabilities.

The camera really is bad , i have the nokia 8 and i agree
But also agree that with google camera it works a thousand times better and it has no problem matching the quality of the photos of iphone 7
Regarding to everything else , nokia 8 is better in everything , snapdragon 835 is just fabulous , ram management is also good
Batttery life , power and everything else is close to the iphone 7 , if you want to go back to android , sell iph7 , win big money and buy nokia 8 , is the best choice

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The difference is day and night. It's not "a little better". Low light as well - drastically different than the default camera app processing.
Pls end your nonsense. It's HMD's fault that they screwed up the camera app. But this is a huge and significant mod that breathes new life into this phone's camera capabilities.
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Installing another manufacturer's algorithms won't fix the slow shutter speed and low light capabilities of the 1.12 um sensor.
Every android phone that i've tried has some pluses and minuses in google camera app mods. Usually low light images are better but that's it, then you might experience glare in day shots or something else.. oh and you lose all the gimmicks that the oem has put on its software/hardware (nokia 8 dual lens for example and ozo sound in video).
So it's a hit or miss.. Especially when there are no apks that are optimized for nokia 8.
And believe me, i would love to be wrong in this, but in this current state the camera is mediocre.. with or without mods. I hope nokia would use that second lens to improve low light..

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Installing another manufacturer's algorithms won't fix the slow shutter speed and low light capabilities of the 1.12 um sensor.
Every android phone that i've tried has some pluses and minuses in google camera app mods. Usually low light images are better but that's it, then you might experience glare in day shots or something else.. oh and you lose all the gimmicks that the oem has put on its software/hardware (nokia 8 dual lens for example and ozo sound in video).
So it's a hit or miss.. Especially when there are no apks that are optimized for nokia 8.
And believe me, i would love to be wrong in this, but in this current state the camera is mediocre.. with or without mods. I hope nokia would use that second lens to improve low light..
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Agree, I spend more money (on non Chinese brands) because of Nokia's quality, it's losing the purpose of pay a premium for Zeiss Lens and not able to benefit the Dual or PIP features in the stock app. The lens (and it's features) and USB 3 was the only reason Nokia worth the premium for, else it is just a Mi 6.
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Is there a reason why there aren't any custom ROMs here for Nokia devices?

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Is there a reason why there aren't any custom ROMs here for Nokia devices?
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I think the bootloader can't be unlocked yet.
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Thing is, the need for unlocking of bootloader needs to be pushed to the OEM. Something like filing a petition or something. So that we can show the responsible person..

Question How is performance and camera after updates?

Hello,
All initial reviews show some spontaneous performance lags and a rather not so satisfying camera. As the phone is now on January 2022 update, have things become better?
Thank you

munlar said:
Hello,
All initial reviews show some spontaneous performance lags and a rather not so satisfying camera. As the phone is now on January 2022 update, have things become better?
Thank you
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hi, what performance lag are you referring to? what is wrong with the camera? in comparison to my friends samsung S20FE mine looks a LOT better and has a load more detail. it is a 64 MP camera and it is pretty good imo vs the phones I've had this is by far the best. when it comes to performance lag, I'm not sure what you are referring to? is there a game too demanding for the phone? I can run some PS2 games on my phone like DBZ budokai 3, tenkaichi 3, Kingdom hears 2, Digimon rumble arena, digimon Data Squad, Simpsons hit and run and a few others at pretty much 60 fps with a minor dip here and there. Genshin runs better on higher graphics settings since the GPU picks up where the CPU is a little lacking but yeah Genshin is the only game I've found that has some stuttering on this phone so far. don't expect miracles for the price but at the price I paid for it there is nothing that even comes remotely close to it in South Africa

Hi, thanks for your input, I am referring to all reviews you can read about this phone.

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Hi, thanks for your input, I am referring to all reviews you can read about this phone.
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yeah, I like the camera but I'm no expert photographer, I've only used the camera for personal use but I love the quality! if the reviews on google by actual users don't go searching for the guy like this one if the guy didn't buy a fake he is delusional.
"Most Worst phone ever. (Camera quality is very bad) Don't buy4 months ago
Most third class mobile. Check the camera before buy this phone. 2mp camera is better than this phone cam(64mp). All reviews will be 0. Realme is better phone from Redmi. Disappointed to buy it. Feedback after using 4months."

still after updates the camera quality is worse. photos remain patchy and washed out. my earlier note 7s pro was 100 times better then this. and yes a 2mp camera is even better then this. please dont buy this phone even in a 2ns sale.