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I know there are some people like myself who actually like Sense and doing a 'full' root can be daunting, especailly if all you want to do is remove the crud that Vodafone or your Telco install on your branded Legend. But there is no reason this can't be used to remove apps that are in a custom ROM - as far as I am aware! If someone with a custom ROM could confirm this, that would be great!
Righto, as per usual here is the disclaimer - doing this is risky and you do so at your own peril! Don't come crying to me or Paul @ MoDaCo if it bricks your phone (it shouldn't but this is just a warning)
Enough of that you get the idea Now for the fun bit!
First if you are not you'll need VISIONary+ from MoDaCo, at the time of this writing r13 is the latest and is available on page 7.
Please read and check the original post as there may be an updated version. If you are rooted skip to the next step.
This is Paul's guide he done quickly on his G2, it's more of a pictorial guide (same rules apply to the Legend as G2 in this case).
Once installed use the Temproot option, this can take 15 seconds or so to complete, use a Terminal Emulator and type su then return/enter and your $ should change to a # - this means you have temproot.
Go to the market and install SuperUser, Titanium Backup, BusyBox.
Open Titanium Backup allowing it root access when prompted, go to Backup/Restore and scroll to find one of the preinstalled bloatware apps, I chose the Vodafone Music app and the Vodafone Web app.
Long hold on the app you want to remove and scroll down a bit and choose the option "Force remove app (by recovery exploit)"
This will reboot your phone TWICE, you will get the recovery screen up - LET IT RUN IT's COURSE! DO NOT INTERRUPT THIS.
Once it boots back into your normal check that the app is no longer in your App drawer
Repeat for all the Apps that came preinstalled that you don't want, just be careful you don't remove anything that may still be needed!
A huge thanks to Paul at MoDaCo for this ingenious hack and the Titanium Backup, BusyBox and SuperUser developers for their hard work in writing their apps which also allow us to easy do this
Oh and you can use the Temproot on boot to have a sortof but not fully permaroot
Great work. I'll try on CM 6.1 RC1. One thing though...If I'm rooted I presume I need only the Titanium backup not VISIONary or other tools, right?
Yes you need the other apps, but you can remove them afterwards if you want. You'll need SuperUser to be able to grant Titanium Backup access, and Titanium Backup requires BusyBox to be installed - Titanium Backup gives you the option to install BusyBox if you press the 'Problems?' button under the Overview tab.
PS: you can use the free version of Titanium Backup for this exercise.
Yes, thank you. I knew about busybox and the option to install it from Titanium. SuperUser I have it already since I'm using CyanogenMod RC1 and it is included in the ROM (I think it is OK like this). So only Titanium (+busybox) needs to be installed.
I'll give it a try and let you know the results. I'll try to remove a rather large application (for ex Google Maps) and I'll install it afterward on the sdcard (since it is system appl, it cannot be moved directly to sdcard)
Later edit: IT WORKS! So I've tried to (and succeeded) remove 2 "system" applications: Google Maps and Calculator. Both were removed and the free space is now available (before 80 Mb free, after 91.2 Mb free).
There was only one issue with Maps, the icon still showed up in the application drawer and it was working (even after going through all above). After several checks I found the reason. The Maps were installed twice...the version included in the CM ROM (that was deleted by this procedure) AND the updated Maps (it once asked for upgrading the application from the market and I did that). After removing the "system installed" version of Google Maps, the "updates" remained. I went to Settings-Applications-Manage Applications and I found Maps there. I've uninstalled the updates then rebooted the phone. After that the icon was gone completely.
To conclude, for CM ROMS (or for all phones that are already rooted and have already the SU application), the steps to be performed for removing a system appl are:
1. Install Titanium Backup
2. Press (as instructed) "Problems" button. This will install a working version of busybox.
3. Check if the application you want to remove, has also updates (from Market or some other places) installed. If YES, go to Settings-Applications-Manage Applications and uninstall all the updates.
4. Start Titanium Backup and perform the steps indicated in the first post by TheLegendaryJay.
So it is working on custom ROM's as well and you don't need VISIONary or other application/tools.
All credits go to Paul, CM team and this whole community, the ones which made such things possible for our phones. TheLegendaryJay, thank you also for sharing this with us. Perhaps for rooted phones it is easier to remove applications with adb commands, but some are maybe not so technical to install the SDK or know how to use it (I can be counted as one of them), or they just might want to remove an application when they don't have a pc with SDK nearby.
yap, can confirm this. works great on cm 6.1 rc1. thanks for the hint
For you guys who are rooted - why not just flash the overlay filesystem patch, enable it, and then use any file explorer and go to /system/app/ and delete the apps you dont want? just a tip, it's much easier.. (and takes less time)
Because one of the reasons for which I wanted to rip out an application from the ROM is to gain some more space... By using overlay system, as I understood, you're practically duplicate the whole system to make it accessible for writing so I don't know if you gain some more space. Eventually you'll have less. Or, if that space is on the sdcard, that does not suit me also cause as I know, is working slower from there. Anyhow, I don't want to detail this here cause we'll be off-topic.
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Because one of the reasons for which I wanted to rip out an application from the ROM is to gain some more space... By using overlay system, as I understood, you're practically duplicate the whole system to make it accessible for writing so I don't know if you gain some more space. Eventually you'll have less. Or, if that space is on the sdcard, that does not suit me also cause as I know, is working slower from there. Anyhow, I don't want to detail this here cause we'll be off-topic.
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As I understand it, the system folder is only linked so the phone believes it's on the SD-card. This should mean, no extra space is taken (except for the few kB that makes this possible). i could be wrong, but I use system overlay and I see no whatsoever decrease in performance. Not in benchmarks nor in usage.
If you are rooted - and dont want system overlay, I still think there is a better wway - ADB! just mount system, cd to system/app, ls it and rm whatever apps ypu dont want.. no need for multiple reboots - quick and effective
adb way might be quicker but it might prove to be ineffective (at least for me it was). In order to remove an application, you must check its filename (with ls command). I've tried to remove Facebook and Twitter applications using adb remove and guess what...they're still there. I admit I might have done something wrong, what I'm saying is that through this new method described above, someone is able to remove an appl by chosing it from a list. For the ones that don't feel so confortable using adb, this is an alternative
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adb way might be quicker but it might prove to be ineffective (at least for me it was). In order to remove an application, you must check its filename (with ls command). I've tried to remove Facebook and Twitter applications using adb remove and guess what...they're still there. I admit I might have done something wrong, what I'm saying is that through this new method described above, someone is able to remove an appl by chosing it from a list. For the ones that don't feel so confortable using adb, this is an alternative
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When it comes to ADB, you must write the filename exactly as it is, if you want to remove Facebook.apk you must rm Facebook.apk, not facebook.apk or just rm Facebook*
What I do, I ls all files, copy the filenames I want to remove into into a txt file. ex. "rm facebook.apk Torch.apk voiceDialer.apk AndroidTerm.apk" and so on. When I flash a new rom, i just copy that file string and remove em all with that one command ofc. I ls it after and check if there is anything new I want to remove, but I get rid of most of it in a few seconds. (good tip!)
I understood that. Now I've checked again and I know what happened...the same thing I said above. The appl was removed also with adb command but the updates of that appl were not. I've removed the updates from Settings and after that the whole appl was gone (Facebook in this case). So both metods work, everyone can choose what he likes more
Anyway this was much more to test if it's working on custom ROMs as was asked by TheLegendaryJay and less as of providing an alternate way for rooted owners.
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You both are wrong. Overlay is just an overlay... it uses several file systems or parts of file systems (directories, files), merge them and show them to us as one new merged file system. The principle is such that if U have one read-only and one read-write file system merged together, all writes are then performed to that read-write one. If you'd like to delete one file from read-only portion, that action is noted on read-write portion and your system doesn't t see that file again through merged file system whereas it is in fact still there...
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You both are wrong. Overlay is just an overlay... it uses several file systems or parts of file systems (directories, files), merge them and show them to us as one new merged file system. The principle is such that if U have one read-only and one read-write file system merged together, all writes are then performed to that read-write one. If you'd like to delete one file from read-only portion, that action is noted on read-write portion and your system doesn't t see that file again through merged file system whereas it is in fact still there...
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thanks for this, great info. Now I'm glad I use adb and not file overlay for removing files
Why's that? Overlay is really handy thing for testing... U can make the system think that the file is not there but in fact is. If something goes wrong (boot loop) because of that, U just disable overlay and U R back on with origial state. After U are satisfied with changes, U can merge those changes into read-only file system via recovery mode.
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BlaY0, you're totally right. Overlay is a great thing for testing (and by the way many thanks you for what you did). But if you're not a tester, just an enthusiast who look for new stuff for his phone, overlay could be much more than he needs.
I'm looking for example to have as much free space in memory as possible. REAL free space. If I'm using overlay, that will not be gained right? The read only files will still be there, only the overlay will show them "deleted". So...what I'm doing instead is that I'm flashing one of the existing ROMs (as per my preferences - CM 6.1 RC1 for ex.) that will not "brick" my phone, I customize it with widgets and applications as I like, than I start deleting what I don't need. For sure I can use overlay for that, but I can do it also without it. This topic presented an alternative for doing that, to the known adb commands. Also from what I've understood, the method in this topic is more aimed to the ones that are not (or don't want to be) rooted. And for those, the adb method doesn't work
You sure are totally right, but then again if you deleted some apk from /system/app that is needed for some other apk and U didn't know about that, you could end up with a so called boot loop. And if this is done by some noob, the simplest way for him to restore would be to wipe and reflash the original ROM. Overay can prevent such accidents. Actually even with overlay you can save space especially where is needed the most, that's on data partition - there's no need for dex in dalvik-cache any more etc. and surely you get more free ram as that app isn't loading any more. For the system partition it actually doesn't matter if it is full in fact why it shouldn't be full. When we get our S-OFF the first thing I will do is to rearange mtd partitions shrinking system and extending data coz now I have like nearly 50 MB free on system partition that I can not use wisely.
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Thanks, VF music and web app not banished from my Legend
Okay, I must be doing something wrong, but I have no idea what. I have the same ROM as Rapier on my Desire, I have Titanium Backup and I did everything he said above. The pre-installed apps are uninstalled with TB (Car app, News and Weather, Facebook, Twitter, Google Voice, Maps, Quickoffice 2.0 which I have no idea what really is), I clear the Dalvik cache and many mega are freed. Then if I reboot, they're back. Like nothing happened.
Do you have any idea or should I give more details? Thanks for the help, guys.
Have you checked also if those applications you're removing do not have some updates installed? Because if they do, you'll get them back on the phone. First remove the updates from each application (from normal "Application" management), then remove the application residing in system with TB.
PS. QuickOffice is a suite program similar with MS Office, that allows you to read (and in the paid version also to write) office documents (.doc, .xls, .ppt...etc)
Thank you for your quick reply.
Yes, I have checked and uninstalled all updates. They are all with the basic version.
About Quickoffice, I know what it is It's just that the one that came with CM 6.1.0 RC1 cannot be accessed, it can only be used to open supported file formats (I just found out after posting here ). I'd prefer the normal Quickoffice with which I can access my dropbox and Google docs too, that's why I wanted to uninstall this in the first place.
Hi All,
I originally posted this thread in the Help and Troubleshooting section, but it got no traction over a couple of weeks, was hoping someone can help me out here. I tried to delete that thread but was unable to do so...
I currently am using a stock D415 LG L90 (Running Lollipop). I have no intention of rooting anytime soon, but my internal memory keeps getting full from multiple apps I have downloaded. I have a 32GB SD Card which is only using half of its capacity. I currently have it set to save all images and video captured to be stored onto the SD Card.
In my previous phones, I was easily able to dedicate my SD card as my primary source of storage, thus never having to run into the issue of having no memory and what not. Are there any solutions like these available?
I am open to rooting, I am kind of picky of not voiding the warranty as I have only had the phone for 10 months, but if rooting is my only option, I am willing to go ahead and do so.
Did I misunderstood you, or do you want apps to be installed on external card?
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Did I misunderstood you, or do you want apps to be installed on external card?
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I want literally everything on my SD card, and make it the primary source of storage. I have moved as much of apps, set the my camera to store images and video to my SD card, and tried my best to keep the internal storage as empty as possible, but this is at a point where I can't even update my apps because my phone's internal storage is full.
I have already moved as many possible apps from my internal storage to the external storage, but that hasn't helped by much.
There are lots and lots of junk files even if you think your phone is clear. Try some apps like clean master, it will also help you to manage the rest of your files.
Also, dunno if it helps you anyhow, but you may want to try link2sd or something like that to have control over apps space
I can't come up with other ideas, sorry for being somehow useless
wojtek267 said:
There are lots and lots of junk files even if you think your phone is clear. Try some apps like clean master, it will also help you to manage the rest of your files.
Also, dunno if it helps you anyhow, but you may want to try link2sd or something like that to have control over apps space
I can't come up with other ideas, sorry for being somehow useless
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I actually was using the Clean Master app, I think the best solution at this point would be to switch my primary storage to my SD card, it is kind of annoying having to always go back and clean up my internal storage every few weeks...
darkgiant said:
I actually was using the Clean Master app, I think the best solution at this point would be to switch my primary storage to my SD card, it is kind of annoying having to always go back and clean up my internal storage every few weeks...
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Use link2sd, create second partition on sd card, set it to 2gb or how much you want and then link the apps (basically it moves all of the app's data). You can search for a tutorial on how to do it. Then, you can set it to link every new installed app to sdcard and also relink it when it is updated automatically.
P.s. you need root for link2sd
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Use link2sd, create second partition on sd card, set it to 2gb or how much you want and then link the apps (basically it moves all of the app's data). You can search for a tutorial on how to do it. Then, you can set it to link every new installed app to sdcard and also relink it when it is updated automatically.
P.s. you need root for link2sd
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Oh okay, thanks for the tips! Just out of curiosity, would installing a custom ROM be a better solution, where I just go in and manually change some of the code on the Android configuration files (as this was achievable in previous Android versions).
darkgiant said:
Oh okay, thanks for the tips! Just out of curiosity, would installing a custom ROM be a better solution, where I just go in and manually change some of the code on the Android configuration files (as this was achievable in previous Android versions).
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I don't know about this, but i can say stock 5.0.2 is the most stable rom so far and if you don't mind LG Smartcover, LG easyhome and lg weather( these lg apps are incompatible, but it will be fixed soon also for Lg l90/g2mini, as it was fixed for g3), you can install xposed alpha and the module xinternalsd which swaps internal sd to external sd, so apps will think like that. to install xposed follow this guide here. this will aditionally empty some space from your internal sd, alongside link2sd.
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I don't know about this, but i can say stock 5.0.2 is the most stable rom so far and if you don't mind LG Smartcover, LG easyhome and lg weather( these lg apps are incompatible, but it will be fixed soon also for Lg l90/g2mini, as it was fixed for g3), you can install xposed alpha and the module xinternalsd which swaps internal sd to external sd, so apps will think like that. to install xposed follow this guide here. this will aditionally empty some space from your internal sd, alongside link2sd.
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Sorry for the noobish question here, but would you mind breaking down what xposed exactly does? Is it basically a way to root my phone?
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Sorry for the noobish question here, but would you mind breaking down what xposed exactly does? Is it basically a way to root my phone?
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No, rooting your phone is a prerequisite of xposed. Rooting allows user to acces and modify system files. Xposed basically allows user to modify system files without actually touching them through the modified framework(the files will be the same after you uninstall module/xposed) . plus, xposed modules allow much more advanced operations (e.g: fixing lollipop memory leak, blocking wakelocks- amplify, snapchat mods- snapprefs, instagram downloading- xinsta, youtube adblocking). I gave you some other examples of xposed modules. However, if you want to install xposed, you need: root, unlocked bootloader and custom recovery. You could search for tutorials on xda on how to do this.
P.s : latest xposed version v70 released yesterday has full support for lg devices (you just have to install it and wipe dalvik cache, no need to delete apps)
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No, rooting your phone is a prerequisite of xposed. Rooting allows user to acces and modify system files. Xposed basically allows user to modify system files without actually touching them through the modified framework(the files will be the same after you uninstall module/xposed) . plus, xposed modules allow much more advanced operations (e.g: fixing lollipop memory leak, blocking wakelocks- amplify, snapchat mods- snapprefs, instagram downloading- xinsta, youtube adblocking). I gave you some other examples of xposed modules. However, if you want to install xposed, you need: root, unlocked bootloader and custom recovery. You could search for tutorials on xda on how to do this.
P.s : latest xposed version v70 released yesterday has full support for lg devices (you just have to install it and wipe dalvik cache, no need to delete apps)
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WOAH - this sounds absolutely brilliant! In reality, one can go ahead and modify the storage configurations on the phone too, right?
I just rooted my device using the KingRoot method, would you mind sharing all the links that include the steps to achieving all of this for this device? I for some reason can't find it for the LG L90.
Thanks!
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WOAH - this sounds absolutely brilliant! In reality, one can go ahead and modify the storage configurations on the phone too, right?
I just rooted my device using the KingRoot method, would you mind sharing all the links that include the steps to achieving all of this for this device? I for some reason can't find it for the LG L90.
Thanks!
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As far as i get, you are a beginner, so you should be very careful installing those files. you could brick your device ! OK, here it is :
1. backup your data
2. rooting - follow this guide (it also works for L90), if you already rooted with kingroot but didn't switch to supersu (highly recommended), skip step 1 and 2. If you get in any trouble also check post #11.
3. install unlocked bootloader: it seems that your D415 comes with unlocked bootloader out of the box (also check this thread)
4. custom recovery: flash this file with flashify or any other flashing apps. make sure you click on "recovery" within app (also check this thread)
5.installing xposed: check this thread, flash zip withing twrp (click install then check the file, after flashing wipe dalvik cache and cache), please note the next reboot will take more time (optimizing apps). then install the apk and then the modules ( for your problem with storage, install xinternalsd, you have lots of modules to choose from, but make sure they are updated for lollipop). after installing modules, enable them in xposed app then reboot.
6. install link2sd if you didn't, check this guide to make 2nd partition. you may consider buying the plus for linking data and auto clear cache.
That's all! if you want to further clear internal storage, go to settings-storage- click on cache then clear it (this is basically what cleaning apps like clean master do). also, check within the same menu the miscellaneous files and erase some of them if you don't need them.
P.S: check xinternalsd settings, you could choose to enable it for all apps, or the apps you want. also, make sure you check "full access to external sd"
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cretu01 said:
As far as i get, you are a beginner, so you should be very careful installing those files. you could brick your device ! OK, here it is :
1. backup your data
2. rooting - follow this guide (it also works for L90), if you already rooted with kingroot but didn't switch to supersu (highly recommended), skip step 1 and 2. If you get in any trouble also check post #11.
3. install unlocked bootloader: it seems that your D415 comes with unlocked bootloader out of the box (also check this thread)
4. custom recovery: flash this file with flashify or any other flashing apps. make sure you click on "recovery" within app (also check this thread)
5.installing xposed: check this thread, flash zip withing twrp (click install then check the file, after flashing wipe dalvik cache and cache), please note the next reboot will take more time (optimizing apps). then install the apk and then the modules ( for your problem with storage, install xinternalsd, you have lots of modules to choose from, but make sure they are updated for lollipop). after installing modules, enable them in xposed app then reboot.
6. install link2sd if you didn't, check this guide to make 2nd partition. you may consider buying the plus for linking data and auto clear cache.
That's all! if you want to further clear internal storage, go to settings-storage- click on cache then clear it (this is basically what cleaning apps like clean master do). also, check within the same menu the miscellaneous files and erase some of them if you don't need them.
P.S: check xinternalsd settings, you could choose to enable it for all apps, or the apps you want. also, make sure you check "full access to external sd"
If i helped you, consider clicking on "thanks" button
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Following your steps, since I was already rooted with KingRoot, I went ahead and downloaded Flashify, and flashed the TeamWin Recovery. My LG L90 booted up to the Teamwin Recovery, everything is funcitonal and smooth. I from there installed the .ZIP file with the folder name "xposed-v70-sdk21-arm.zip". Though, when I click on Reboot, and than select Recovery, I than go to a image of the Android logo opened up with the text in the bottom saying "No Command".
Any idea here? Did I just delete my Android OS, and need to install a ROM?
cretu01 said:
As far as i get, you are a beginner, so you should be very careful installing those files. you could brick your device ! OK, here it is :
1. backup your data
2. rooting - follow this guide (it also works for L90), if you already rooted with kingroot but didn't switch to supersu (highly recommended), skip step 1 and 2. If you get in any trouble also check post #11.
3. install unlocked bootloader: it seems that your D415 comes with unlocked bootloader out of the box (also check this thread)
4. custom recovery: flash this file with flashify or any other flashing apps. make sure you click on "recovery" within app (also check this thread)
5.installing xposed: check this thread, flash zip withing twrp (click install then check the file, after flashing wipe dalvik cache and cache), please note the next reboot will take more time (optimizing apps). then install the apk and then the modules ( for your problem with storage, install xinternalsd, you have lots of modules to choose from, but make sure they are updated for lollipop). after installing modules, enable them in xposed app then reboot.
6. install link2sd if you didn't, check this guide to make 2nd partition. you may consider buying the plus for linking data and auto clear cache.
That's all! if you want to further clear internal storage, go to settings-storage- click on cache then clear it (this is basically what cleaning apps like clean master do). also, check within the same menu the miscellaneous files and erase some of them if you don't need them.
P.S: check xinternalsd settings, you could choose to enable it for all apps, or the apps you want. also, make sure you check "full access to external sd"
If i helped you, consider clicking on "thanks" button
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Just want to update, I flashed CM12.1 on my phone, as I needed my phone to be functional enough to answer calls and text messages, I downloaded the ROM from here: http://quarx.cm-for.us/device-w7.html
I flashed it via the TWRP and flashed it as an image, it is currently booting up and displaying the setup settings right now. Not sure if I messed up in the previous steps for deleting my Android OS (I was running Stock).
I am not sure if I should go back to Stock at this point, but I just want my phone functional, fast, and lag-free and have no issues, as it is my daily driver.
Also - The root method I used, it is a good method, correct?
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Just want to update, I flashed CM12.1 on my phone, as I needed my phone to be functional enough to answer calls and text messages, I downloaded the ROM from here: http://quarx.cm-for.us/device-w7.html
I flashed it via the TWRP and flashed it as an image, it is currently booting up and displaying the setup settings right now. Not sure if I messed up in the previous steps for deleting my Android OS (I was running Stock).
I am not sure if I should go back to Stock at this point, but I just want my phone functional, fast, and lag-free and have no issues, as it is my daily driver.
Also - The root method I used, it is a good method, correct?
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OK. So after much tinkering, I managed to install LG L90 Stock Lollipop ROM! I also flashed SuperSU, and it is now rooted! I was able to move all of my apps via Link2SD, and I now have free internal space! It took literally over 12 hours of tinkering (sometimes just leaving my phone as is), but I managed to get it resolved before midnight.
Going to install Xposed now, but just in curiosity, what kind of stuff do you recommend for me to check out via Xposed, or modules and stuff to select/install?
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OK. So after much tinkering, I managed to install LG L90 Stock Lollipop ROM! I also flashed SuperSU, and it is now rooted! I was able to move all of my apps via Link2SD, and I now have free internal space! It took literally over 12 hours of tinkering (sometimes just leaving my phone as is), but I managed to get it resolved before midnight.
Going to install Xposed now, but just in curiosity, what kind of stuff do you recommend for me to check out via Xposed, or modules and stuff to select/install?
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About the no command error, i haven't heard about this, but to reboot, you need to select reboot then "system" from recovery. Anyway,if you fixed this, i gave you some good examples of modules in the last post,you could also explore the whole list of modules to see what's good for you.
Hello All,
So I originally had 3GB set aside for the ext4 partition, but that has now become full, and I have quite a few apps that now have to be moved over... is there proper way to make the partition bigger, without having to format the SD Card?
Also, I have a 32GB SD Card, is it at all possible to make a 64GB SD Card useful with this phone? I figure I could buy a 64GB SD Card (they are so cheap now), and instead allocate 10GB towards that ext4 partition.
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Hello All,
So I originally had 3GB set aside for the ext4 partition, but that has now become full, and I have quite a few apps that now have to be moved over... is there proper way to make the partition bigger, without having to format the SD Card?
Also, I have a 32GB SD Card, is it at all possible to make a 64GB SD Card useful with this phone? I figure I could buy a 64GB SD Card (they are so cheap now), and instead allocate 10GB towards that ext4 partition.
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I am sorry but as far as I know lg l90 (405 for mine) goes as far as 32 GB. I have allocated 4 GB and I am far from reaching how could you get it full how many apps do you have ?
Have a wonderful day !
Sorry for the late response, I do have at least 35+ apps (I am an app developer and run multiple apps on my phone). I especially use apps like HERE Maps and the full Microsoft Office suite frequently which take up a good chunk of the storage.
Is the 32GB SD Card limit a software limit, or hardware limit? Can I somehow override this rule? I really love this phone, it fits my needs, but this storage is really bothering me, as a lot of my apps are pending major updates....
On OxygenOS Stock ROM (4.1.6) there are some apps came pre-installed that I don't use. For example Google Gmail, Hangout also OnePlus's own calculator/clock etc. I want to delete those apps and replace Gmail with Inbox. completely remove Hangout, OPCalculator and OPClock with Google's Calculator and Clock. I have deleted those apps before by manually deleting them from inside /System/App and /System/Priv-app
Now, I'm trying to write my 'own' TWRP flash-able updater script to do such action. But I am kind of confused if only deleting an APK's parent folder is enough to remove the apps completely? For example, if I only delete the folder System/App/(Deskclock) - is that enough or there will be related files remaining somewhere else?
* I know Titanium Backup or other debloat apps can perform similar task, but the main purpose of this question is to know how can this be done manually and properly without leaving un-necessary files in the system.
Thanks.
Deleting the folder of an app in /system/app will remove the app from your phone (as in, not showing up in launchers or the Installed Apps list). However, app data and updates may still be saved in the /data partition. To make sure all of it is removed, first clear data and uninstall all updates to the system apps you with to remove from the Installed Apps list (disable it), then delete the APK either through a root explorer, or a recovery script.
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Deleting the folder of an app in /system/app will remove the app from your phone (as in, not showing up in launchers or the Installed Apps list). However, app data and updates may still be saved in the /data partition. To make sure all of it is removed, first clear data and uninstall all updates to the system apps you with to remove from the Installed Apps list (disable it), then delete the APK either through a root explorer, or a recovery script.
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Thank you very much! Appreciate your replay.
Suggest to use OOS debloater via twrp
Babloo289 said:
Suggest to use OOS debloater via twrp
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Are you talking about this one? https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3/themes/aroma-oos-debloater-t3615828
Hi, Just a quick question.. as you mentioned here
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To make sure all of it is removed, first clear data and uninstall all updates to the system apps you with to remove from the Installed Apps list (disable it),
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1. I wonder if this is even possible inside TWRP, I mean targeting those unwanted apps, uninstalling updates+ clearing app data/disable them.. Or you are suggesting me to remove them manually from the OOS interface/settings one by one?
2. Also while in TWRP, none of those app (that I will remove) are not functional so what's the points of clearing app data/uninstalling updates? why not simply delete /system/app/(app.apk) and /data/app/(related files.)
Thanks again.
tushxda said:
Hi, Just a quick question.. as you mentioned here
1. I wonder if this is even possible inside TWRP, I mean targeting those unwanted apps, uninstalling updates+ clearing app data/disable them.. Or you are suggesting me to remove them manually from the OOS interface/settings one by one?
2. Also while in TWRP, none of those app (that I will remove) are not functional so what's the points of clearing app data/uninstalling updates? why not simply delete /system/app/(app.apk) and /data/app/(related files.)
Thanks again.
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1) If you know where the extra data/updates are stored in /data, then you could use a recovery script to delete them. It's kind of one-shot deal though, as unless you open the apps again (after re-flashing a ROM), they won't have any data saved to them the next time you want to delete them.
2) If they aren't functional, they likely won't have much app data to begin with. I would clear the app data from apps like Google Play Music or Movies (if you don't want to use them) before deleting them. Random Engineering Test Tools and unessential services won't have much data stored and can be deleted directly.
i think its just fine bt read other comments too for better understanding.
Hello,
I came to the point 4.4 needs to be upgraded.
Is there any 5+ rom for G800F that doesn't have apps installed in separate folders?
Regards,
Alen
nobody?
background - why do i need it... titaniumbackup nandroid functionality does not work, preventing play store and play services update is impossible
OK... from lack of replies I suppose there isn't any rom with such properties newer than KK.
So, I would like to ask you how do you deal with selective restores from nandroid backup?
Also, how do you prevent Google Play and Google Play Services being updated automatically?
What's the problem with separated folders for apps, may I ask? It's how it works from Android 5.0 and above, all ROMs...
If you sign the app with test-key it won't update, but I've never used it with a Google app to see it there are side effects... There is a free app that can do it (replace the original key to a test one).
the main problem is, as i already mentioned, titanium backup, that detects only data in twrp nandroid backup. also, inability to prevent automatic updates by creating "fake" folders.
what do you have in mind for resigning? zipsigner? never thought of that, but might be a dirty workaround. probably the attempt to update will still happen and fail. also, when decided to update the procedure will be more complicated. hoping there are no side effect. will try and report.
Yes, the app I mentioned is ZipSigner, I've used it with ES File Explorer for keeping and old adware free version...
As for TiB, it's weird... Probably they need to update the app, since Android 5.0 that apss are stored in folders... Or you can use another backup utility, ES File Explorer for instance can save apps and their data (needs root of course).
resigning does not work... play store stops working by saying "authentication required. you need to sign into your google account."
you got me wrong about titanium backup. it otherwise works, it just does not detect apps in nandroid backups - it shows only data. important here is nandroid backup. i'm quite surprised they forgot about this aspect since 5 already.
and btw... deducing from the thread about preventing update with "fake" folder... it seems some stock 5+ roms still install apps in an old way - it depends on package installer.
Hi.
I own a BQ X5 Plus with android 7.1.1 rooted with Magisk v16. The problem is that when making a backup of the user or system applications with Titanium Backup Pro 8.1 the phone restarts. I have tried several versions of Titanium and the same thing happens. This did not happen to me before using SuperSU. Is there any incompatibility between Magisk and Titanium?
Any application like Titanium to make and restore applications and configurations?
Thank you
Please provide specific information and logs w/ exact date and time of restart. If you have used the device since the issue, clear your logs and repeat the process that triggers the reboot problem with Titanium. I am running Magisk 16.3 + Manager 5.70 with Titanium Backup and have no issues.
You may wish to contact the Titanium developers and ascertain what logs they require to also investigate the issue.
There are ample alternatives to Titanium backup (that backup system apps, backup app data, freeze apps, etc). Search: backup app data (maybe?)
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Example list of Log locations:
- ./MagiskManager/Logs/install_yyyymmdd_hhmmss.log
- ./MagiskManager/Logs/magisk_yyyymmdd_hhmmss.log
- ./root/cache/magisk (file)
- ./tmp/recovery.log [n.b. use 'adb pull' -OR- TWRP > Advanced > Copy Log to retrieve.]
- ./data/adb/magisk_debug.log
- ./data/app/magisk/cache/ (?) or ./cache/ (?)
and no doubt more....
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Hi. I'm pretty new to these issues. If you tell me how to do a log, I'll send it to you.
I have contacted the people of Titanium, I am waiting for your response.
On the other hand I would appreciate it if you were more precise about the use of other backup applications. Some in particular that allows to make backup of apk / data / configurations like titanium. Thank you.
hakamin said:
Hi. I'm pretty new to these issues. If you tell me how to do a log, I'll send it to you.
I have contacted the people of Titanium, I am waiting for your response.
On the other hand I would appreciate it if you were more precise about the use of other backup applications. Some in particular that allows to make backup of apk / data / configurations like titanium. Thank you.
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You can try AppVault from JMZ software...
It REQUIRES BusyBox... Without it you won't get app data... So you'll need either osm0sis's BusyBox for magisk or stericsons BusyBox installer... Or be on LOS...
Thank you. I tell you what I have done, I think I have it solved.
1- Install AppVault, but I did not like it very much. Very far from Titanium.
2- Remove Magisk and put SuperSU. I made a backup and same problem, restarts ..... that means that the problem is Titanium. It's weird since I used SuperSU + Titanium months ago and had no problems.
3- This morning I decided to modify two parameters in Titanium:
Menu / preferences / compression level: I have put it in LZO, before I was in GZIP
Menu / preferences / advanced application control: I have deactivated it, I think this was the problem.
Now I can try returning to the level of compression that I had before and eliminating SuperSU and putting Magisk.
I'll tell you if it works.
Thank you all.
Hi.
SOLVED. I have reinstalled Magisk and with the changes I made in titanium it works perfect.