Hello, I have a i9305 with stock 4.1.1 (not rooted yet). I would like to try flashing CM11. When I look into forum and found some users get stuck by the KNOX flag. I just have some simple questions (hopefully): Do I need to update bootloader (to the one with KNOX) in order to install CM11, after I root and install custom recovery? If yes, will installation of CM11 trigger KNOX flag, even I have not flashed stock 4.3 before?
Thank you.
I'm knoxed, but i believe CM kernel is compatible with both bootloaders...
jonathanchik said:
Hello, I have a i9305 with stock 4.1.1 (not rooted yet). I would like to try flashing CM11. When I look into forum and found some users get stuck by the KNOX flag. I just have some simple questions (hopefully): Do I need to update bootloader (to the one with KNOX) in order to install CM11, after I root and install custom recovery? If yes, will installation of CM11 trigger KNOX flag, even I have not flashed stock 4.3 before?
Thank you.
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you do not need to update bootloader to flash cm11. the installation of cm11 cant trigger knox cause there is no knox bootloader on your device, you will get knox bootloader ONLY by updating to 4.3, manually or ota doesnt matter. try not to get the knox bootloader
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Hello,
I'd like to ask if I can safely downgrade my current XXUEML9 ROM to some older releases of 4.3 s3 i9305 official Samsung ROMs.
Why do that? I've read some reports that first releases of 4.3 ROMs for i9305 could be rooted with kingo without tripping knox flag and the XXUEML9 release has been reported to be tripping the flag (some new samsung's security measures introduced meanwhile), so I think it could be worth trying but better safe than sorry - I know I can't downgrade to 4.1.2 or whatever under 4.3 but what about new 4.3 to "older" 4.3? Just wondering if there aren't safety patches in the bootloader itself that prevent users from downgrading to anything lower than current FW
Thanks for your help.
you can do it safely...i would recommend doing a factory reset after it...just to be sure it won't mess with kingoapp...i did it without problems(i tripped knox way before doing this)
spiderman07 said:
you can do it safely...i would recommend doing a factory reset after it...just to be sure it won't mess with kingoapp...i did it without problems(i tripped knox way before doing this)
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thanks for the info,
I plan to do it that way:
1. enter factory recovery -> factory wipe
2. odin -> flash oldest 4.3 i9305 stock image
3. if bootloops -> repeat step 1.
4. kingo root -> let's see if knox stays 0x0, ofc I'll let you know in the thread here
5. whatever ROM, but keeping stock kernel and stock recovery (otherwise all the steps above pointless)
Kingo trips knox
Raistlin1158 said:
Kingo trips knox
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I doubt it. Kingo either roots the phone or fail, and then gives you option of installing custom recovery which trips Knox flag.
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Which firmware is the oldest 4.3?
I used it and it did...
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[/COLOR]Which firmware is the oldest 4.3?
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seems that XXUEMKC is the oldest 4.3 - it has the release date 28.11.2013
well, looks like a lottery with kingo root; but as far as I read in some forums some were successful with rooting that way and keeping the flag 0x0 with older FWs and everybody reporting using kingo on latest FWs says it had tripped KNOX
and, to be clear - as of now, there aren't any other ways to root i9305/4.3 than:
a) kingo (knox lottery)
b) CF-Root (trips knox)
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z) waiting for miracle and some new rooting methods?
adamuadamu said:
seems that XXUEMKC is the oldest 4.3 - it has the release date 28.11.2013
well, looks like a lottery with kingo root; but as far as I read in some forums some were successful with rooting that way and keeping the flag 0x0 with older FWs and everybody reporting using kingo on latest FWs says it had tripped KNOX
and, to be clear - as of now, there aren't any other ways to root i9305/4.3 than:
a) kingo (knox lottery)
b) CF-Root (trips knox)
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z) waiting for miracle and some new rooting methods?
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I think you are right. I have MKC firmware but not able to root with Kingo. It always failed and asked if i wanted to install custom recovery with root which will trip Knox flag, and i always clicked 'NO' button. My knox flag remains 0x0 but phone not rooted.
so, all the things I planned turn out to be pointless
the ***MKC PDA FW is the oldest one of 4.3 for i9305
you've got no root on MKC via kingo, and I got some information from a Polish forum, that kingo did the root on MKC but tripped the flag anyway (I can only assume it tries to get the root through some dirty tricks via cable and if it fails that way, it offers to flash custom recovery in order to flash apk and su binary to the system).
so, for the time being CF-Root seems the only reasonable option to root - you'll trip knox either way, but without sending all your sensitive data to china and back.
hello experts
Basically I flashed a 4.3 stock rom.
Realising my mistake, I used a script to de-bloat the stock rom and remove the knox feature.
However the phone is not rooted but it still has the clockwork bootloader.
( I have flashed the xda script to erase the knox feature)
My plea for help is whether or not I can flash a detoxed 4.3 over the stock rom to regain root
I was hoping to use the "[ROM][I9305][2014-08-16] **THE GALAXY PROJECT ** [JB 4.3 XXUENE4-v18.12" ROM
will the new rom stick or should I go for a cm rom.
and can i still flash a rom with the clockwork mod boodloader and will the phone brick ..
knox is the samsung crap and for the moment there is no way replace the knox counter.
I haven't don it yet getting all the info I need before hand.
1) After I unlock the bootloader will I be able to flash the most recent update for 4.4.4 or will I just be able to unfreeze the OTA and still keep root?
2) If I loose root since I now have an unlocked bootloader I'm just a SuperSU flash away from root, right?
3) Since I'm still on 4.4.2 will I have any issues if I need to flash back to it?
Anything else I might have missed that is important either from mistakes or just general knowledge I missed would be appreciated. Thanks and Good Night everybody!
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I haven't don it yet getting all the info I need before hand.
1) After I unlock the bootloader will I be able to flash the most recent update for 4.4.4 or will I just be able to unfreeze the OTA and still keep root?
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After you unlock the bootloader, treat your device like a developer edition. I would just flash the full 4.4.4 image files for your device to bring it up to the latest version without worry of it failing because of modifications you may have made to the system (root, etc..).
2) If I loose root since I now have an unlocked bootloader I'm just a SuperSU flash away from root, right?
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With an unlocked bootloader you can flash an alternate recovery like CWM or TWRP. These recoveries will allow you to flash SuperSU to gain root.
3) Since I'm still on 4.4.2 will I have any issues if I need to flash back to it?
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Just like every other Motorola device (developer or not), you can not flash backwards. If you move to 4.4.4 you can NOT go back to 4.4.2.
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After you unlock the bootloader, treat your device like a developer edition. I would just flash the full 4.4.4 image files for your device to bring it up to the latest version without worry of it failing because of modifications you may have made to the system (root, etc..).
With an unlocked bootloader you can flash an alternate recovery like CWM or TWRP. These recoveries will allow you to flash SuperSU to gain root.
Just like every other Motorola device (developer or not), you can not flash backwards. If you move to 4.4.4 you can NOT go back to 4.4.2.
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Great explanation! :good:
tcrews said:
After you unlock the bootloader, treat your device like a developer edition. I would just flash the full 4.4.4 image files for your device to bring it up to the latest version without worry of it failing because of modifications you may have made to the system (root, etc..).
With an unlocked bootloader you can flash an alternate recovery like CWM or TWRP. These recoveries will allow you to flash SuperSU to gain root.
Just like every other Motorola device (developer or not), you can not flash backwards. If you move to 4.4.4 you can NOT go back to 4.4.2.
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Why do you recommend flashing 4.4.4 over accepting the OTA? I still want to be able to use the additions originally provided by Motorola. I didn't seen a rom built on Moto Stock. Did I miss it?
Flash the stock 4.4.4 ROM that is for your device.
What's better...4.4.2 with patches to make it 4.4.4 (via an OTA) or just the full 4.4.4 (via the full 4.4.4 install) without the need for patching to make it 4.4.4?
Oh well...it looks like there isn't a FULL 4.4.4 for AT&T Moto X released yet....just 4.4.2. Flash the full 4.4.2 then take the OTA update to 4.4.4 and then flash TWRP to get root.
AT&T 4.4.2
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/download.php?device=0&file=849
You can just flash the system.img from the download with mfastboot to revert any changes you did (root, etc..) so that the OTA can be installed successfully. You'll just want to get fully updated before flashing an alternative recovery like TWRP.
Hello all,
Im totally confused as to how to go about rooting my device c6902. Ive owned a couple of android devices and Ive rooted them all, however....with this device and there seem to be different ways people have rooted from reading the threads and im totally confused, So far I have unlocked the bootloader, and upgraded the device OTA to lollipop .242 (before the bootloader was unlocked), I dont intend installing any custom firmware, just want root so I can use TB and maybe delete a few bloatwares with root explorer and use xposed.
Im confused as to whether:
1. I have to downgrade firmware to kitkat, just to get root, then upgrade back to official firmware?
2. Ive been under the impression that a custom recovery and supersu, is enough to get root. It doesnt work that way on this device?
3. I saw some oneclick root programs that worked on the z1 compact would any work here
Just trying to know more about the phone and understand, so any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance.
bigmeech084 said:
Hello all,
Im totally confused as to how to go about rooting my device c6902. Ive owned a couple of android devices and Ive rooted them all, however....with this device and there seem to be different ways people have rooted from reading the threads and im totally confused, So far I have unlocked the bootloader, and upgraded the device OTA to lollipop .242 (before the bootloader was unlocked), I dont intend installing any custom firmware, just want root so I can use TB and maybe delete a few bloatwares with root explorer and use xposed.
Im confused as to whether:
1. I have to downgrade firmware to kitkat, just to get root, then upgrade back to official firmware?
2. Ive been under the impression that a custom recovery and supersu, is enough to get root. It doesnt work that way on this device?
3. I saw some oneclick root programs that worked on the z1 compact would any work here
Just trying to know more about the phone and understand, so any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2631291
Using the guide on the link I just posted, you are not required to unlock the bootloader, unlocking the bootloader without backing up the TA partition can cause problems with your phone.
You need to downgrade to KitKat 4.4.4 with kernel 108, then root it with easyroot install supersu and rootchecker to make sure your phone is rooted, the use NUTs recovery to create a recovery partition, after that search XDA forums for a pre-rooted lollipop flashable zip and install that, and voila you should be on lollipop with root and recovery.
I am not sure about one-click root programs.
demon148 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2631291
Using the guide on the link I just posted, you are not required to unlock the bootloader, unlocking the bootloader without backing up the TA partition can cause problems with your phone.
You need to downgrade to KitKat 4.4.4 with kernel 108, then root it with easyroot install supersu and rootchecker to make sure your phone is rooted, the use NUTs recovery to create a recovery partition, after that search XDA forums for a pre-rooted lollipop flashable zip and install that, and voila you should be on lollipop with root and recovery.
I am not sure about one-click root programs.
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Thanks for your help.
I already unlocked the bootloader though. Do I need to downgrade the whole kitkat rom or flash just the kernel? thanks
Figured out. Thanks
Hello, i have g800h with 6.0.1. russian stock. I rooted and install twrp 3.0.0. My question is, what rom can i safe flash, because the most custom roms required 4.2.2 or 5.1.1 before flashing. Am i stuck on this stock and i cant downgrade?
you can downgrade if you want to. just be sure to do backups first
GustavoLCR said:
you can downgrade if you want to. just be sure to do backups first
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I did backup in twrp, but I read somewhere that I can't downgrade because of knox. What about repair firmware 4.4.2. It has pit inside, is it safe to flash.?