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What Can we do with a locked bootloader?

Can someone tell me what we will actually be able to download if bootloader remains looked? Can we flash certain types of Rom or mods? Or can we do nothing?
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ekerbuddyeker said:
Can someone tell me what we will actually be able to download if bootloader remains looked? Can we flash certain types of Rom or mods? Or can we do nothing?
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You can flash nothing. you can not flash TWRP or CWM

ekerbuddyeker said:
Can someone tell me what we will actually be able to download if bootloader remains looked? Can we flash certain types of Rom or mods? Or can we do nothing?
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Should work the same as the S4 MF update that locked down the bootloader. You should be able to root but as for custom roms and CWM/TWRP we're out of luck.
Coming from a S4 running CM10.2 I'm not going to like using the standard rom but will get used to it I guess.

So even with the bootlegged locked we should be able to tour so we can use TB to backup and restore?
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I have a locked MF3 firmware S4 and I'm running 3 different ROMs that are hot swappable thanks to Safestrap developed my Hashcode so even with a locked bootloader you can do something. Only thing is for now we are limited to internal storage for the ROM slots can't create them on external SD card but Hashcode has been working on that. Also we can only flash TW ROMs since we can't flash a custom kernel but that is also being worked on, I believe they want to be able flash a kernel with kexec. I have an AT&T S4 and currently swapping between an international Foxhound ROM, Google Play ROM, and well the stock ROM.
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At this point I'd be happy with just root so I can use Titanium Backup.

Would be nice if we could get Loki.
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All I want is Titanium Backup

ekerbuddyeker said:
Can someone tell me what we will actually be able to download if bootloader remains looked? Can we flash certain types of Rom or mods? Or can we do nothing?
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Even tho I don't have any phone that has a bootloader. (i don't live in the USA Neither)
But if your Bootloader is locked you cannot Flash CWM or TWRP or flash custom roms (Because they need CWM or TWRP).
Sorry if I'm wrong. I don't have any phone with locked bootloader. Hope this helps.
regards warface123.

supers2k said:
All I want is Titanium Backup
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Ditto... which is why I am returning my AT&T Note 3 less than 24 hrs after I purchased it.
My fault for not researching the bootlocker issue, but no way am I going to give up Titanium Backup. It has saved my tail more than once.

I'm also coming from an att S4. There has not been a bootloader unlock exploit but they do have some work around exploits like loki & safestrape. Loki is out bc they've already patched that so at this point I just hope we get root bc without that you don't have a fighting chance at custom roms
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All I want to do is remove the AT&T bloat as well as the Samsung bloat. When I took my stock Note 2 and installed Cleanrom on it it felt like the phone got a cpu boost. Everything was smoother and faster.
With root, can we uninstall crap that is blocked from being removed while stock? I can live with a locked bootloader if I can just get as close to a stripped rom as possible. I'm pretty new to this stuff so forgive the newbie question.

Should i buy the ATT Note 3?

Hi All,
In terms of which version of the NOTE 3 to buy, should i get the ATT one? in terms of development to the device.
I see that the android development forum is currently empty, are roms of other version (not ATT specific) are compatible with it?
thanks.

powza said:
Hi All,
In terms of which version of the NOTE 3 to buy, should i get the ATT one? in terms of development to the device.
I see that the android development forum is currently empty, are roms of other version (not ATT specific) are compatible with it?
thanks.
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The AT&T note 3 currently has a locked bootloader. No flashing roms until someone finds a way to unlock the phone. People who seem to need to flash roms are buying the t-mobile one (which has an unlocked bootloader) and bringing it over to AT&T.

I have a rooted and flashed Att Note 3. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2474422
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Can't_C_Me said:
I have a rooted and flashed Att Note 3. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2474422
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Flashed with what?

bigmout said:
Flashed with what?
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What he meant to say was flashed with stock root injected rom, NOT custom rom

Sorry did make it sound like custom Rom. Stock Rom with root access.
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Honestly if you're looking for s-pen functionality plus some customization.. rooting plus wanum modules pretty much does the trick. It would be nice if we could flash roms but I don't miss it with all the features this phone has
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I would buy the T-Mobile note 3 if you want to flash stuff and rom development. I've been running ATT on the T-Mobile phone for a while now and all is well.

redstar299 said:
Honestly if you're looking for s-pen functionality plus some customization.. rooting plus wanum modules pretty much does the trick. It would be nice if we could flash roms but I don't miss it with all the features this phone has
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This.
Root on the stock ROM is great, it allows you install must have apps like Greenify, DroidWall, AdAway, Root Explorer, and Wannum Xposed Framework. Plus is stable, being based off the official stock OS.
That's all you really need, and allows tons of control over the phone, without an actual ROM or need for unlocked bootloader.
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Zorachus said:
This.
Root on the stock ROM is great, it allows you install must have apps like Greenify, DroidWall, AdAway, Root Explorer, and Wannum Xposed Framework. Plus is stable, being based off the official stock OS.
That's all you really need, and allows tons of control over the phone, without an actual ROM or need for unlocked bootloader.
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Root and custom recovery

Ok im new to the s4 and have been doing alot of reading. So let me get this right I can root and install custom recovery without using a pc ?
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JReeher said:
Ok im new to the s4 and have been doing alot of reading. So let me get this right I can root and install custom recovery without using a pc ?
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Just to be clear, this is the forum for the S4 Active which is a different phone than the regular S4. That said, it really depends on which version of the S4 Active you have:
If you have the AT&T version (i537), then you can root, but you cannot install custom recovery due to a locked bootloader (stupid AT&T). You can still install custom ROMs using SafeStrap, but you are limited to TouchWiz based ROMs.
If you have the International version (i9295), then you can root and install custom recovery (the bootloader is unlocked), so you can pretty much install whatever you want.
I hope this helps, check out the Development section of this forum for more information.

JReeher said:
Ok im new to the s4 and have been doing alot of reading. So let me get this right I can root and install custom recovery without using a pc ?
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Yeah my apologies I have the active and also the att version (dumb) but thanks for the reply
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how bad would it be to flash international note 3 .tar file on an at&t n3?

what would happen if I flashed the international n3 .tar file via odin on my at&t n3 ? would it essentially turn my device into an international version ? sorry for the stupid question but I have to do something I hate not having cm any help/advice would be great thanks in advace
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Jmaserang said:
what would happen if I flashed the international n3 .tar file via odin on my at&t n3 ? would it essentially turn my device into an international version ? sorry for the stupid question but I have to do something I hate not having cm any help/advice would be great thanks in advace
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It would not turn it into an international version for sure. I'm about 90% sure it would brick. If you decide to do it anyway, I'm not knowledgeable on brick recovery, search the forums for that.
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well in going to try it gotta do something I have 2 n3s and a moto x and cant run cyanogenmod on either so I guess it worth a try lol just thought since theyre the same device why wouldnt I be able to flash the international n3s tar file
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Jmaserang said:
well in going to try it gotta do something I have 2 n3s and a moto x and cant run cyanogenmod on either so I guess it worth a try lol just thought since theyre the same device why wouldnt I be able to flash the international n3s tar file
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They technically aren't the same device. The 9005 has different processor.

which n3s are the same as at&t ?
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Jmaserang said:
which n3s are the same as at&t ?
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It's hard to find a page that compares all the note 3 variants. At least for me it is! This is a good comparison page.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_3-5665.php

Jmaserang said:
what would happen if I flashed the international n3 .tar file via odin on my at&t n3 ? would it essentially turn my device into an international version ? sorry for the stupid question but I have to do something I hate not having cm any help/advice would be great thanks in advace
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The N900A has a locked bootloader and cannot be flashed period. There is currently no way to flash it. There is safestrap that lets you use an alternate ROM but the kernel will still be the same. There is no way to flash the N900A right now. If you do try to flash it, you will brick it for good.

I was going to flash via the tar file via odin not safe strap but we'll see how it goes tomorrow
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[Q] Installing CM 11 on N900A

Okay, I did my obligatory search of the forums and of Google, but I've come up empty.
Is it possible to install Cyanogenmod 11 Nightlies on our beloved N900A using SafeStrap? I know one person has had reported luck (but I can't find the link, sorry), but they didn't elaborate on jack squat. A yes or no will suffice but an explanation would be nice.
Yours truly,
The Sphere.

AFAIK, we can't install AOSP ROMS on our version of the note 3 because at&t locked the boot loader. So, no, it wouldn't work for our variant.
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What he said.
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