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Im not sure what all of the complaining I've read on here is all about cause this phone is amazing. I've had just about every Verizon android phone made and this byfar blows them all out if the water. It is so fast and responsive. Screen is completely adequate. Every other phone I've had has always had a major issue (except the droid x) but the bionic to me is flawless. I haven't dropped data, calls are clear, internet flies, etc. Just wanted to put my 2 cents in. I have an upgrade coming on dec 9th. Ill probably use it to by that stupid nexus samsung phone and resell it for double to have some extra christmas cash. Haha. Go Motorola...
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I agree. This phone has been great for me as well. While the camera wasn't amazing, the leaked OTA improved both that and the data drops for me. This is the only Android phone I've been happy with stock, which is saying a lot lol. This is also my first Verizon phone. Coming from Sprint, this network is far superior- and I have 4G nearly everywhere I go. I couldn't ask for more from a phone.
Heck yeah. I haven't rooted or done a leaked update yet because my laptop is currently down... don't know if I actually will though. Other than the camera focusing a tad slow I see no reason not to wait for the official ota.
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I know this thread is a bit old, but wanted to comment. Like with my Thunderbolt, I'm reading every thread that's interesting.
I got my Bionic on Thursday and I'm loving it. I loved my Thunderbolt, and loved it even more after rooting. The Bionic is running very smooth for me, with only a few data drops yesterday, that I'm not so sure was related to the building that I was in. I'm not sure I want to root it. Nandroid backups and Titanium are the only things I sort of miss at the moment. I know it'll come, but will be a while. Like my Thunderbolt and Xoom were.
I have to agree too! However, this is technically my first smartphone, so I would be happy with any Android device, I believe. I did have the LG Revolution for 1 week before my Bionic. I always wanted the Bionic first, but there was a mix and I got the Revolution instead. The Bionic certainly blows the Revolution out of the water. I was also hesitant to root my Bionic because I didn't see the reason for it other than tethering. But I did root it and have had no issues, except some that were due to my inexperience with smartphones an rooting.
Root it to freeze bloat and block ads if anything. Plus make a backup.
I loved my bionic too, but wait until the data drops happen enough. You'll edit your post. It made me bonkers.
Glad you're happy though.
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My first 2 set of Bionic's had battery draining issue, data dropping out of the blue, phone going into sleep and not waking. After 2nd replacement and 5.5.893 update, no issues not so ever. My 4g was out of service few times but that was due to Verizon network NOT the phone itself. I rarely drop data, if any and battery life is great (I have extended battery).
So far so good
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I have to agree too! However, this is technically my first smartphone, so I would be happy with any Android device, I believe. I did have the LG Revolution for 1 week before my Bionic. I always wanted the Bionic first, but there was a mix and I got the Revolution instead. The Bionic certainly blows the Revolution out of the water. I was also hesitant to root my Bionic because I didn't see the reason for it other than tethering. But I did root it and have had no issues, except some that were due to my inexperience with smartphones an rooting.
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I went from an LG 800g Tracfone to the Bionic. So it was a big leap outta the 19th century for me too. But even compared to other phones I've seen, I love my Bionic. I rooted about three weeks after purchase, Titanium BU, froze a few apps, got used to the phone, and over time have downloaded over 100 apps. Don't use half of them! LOL! But this little computer is awesome!
Now it is time to 4ever root, and go to 893. Not sure about 901 yet. I might be patient and wait for Moto to send it out. But a lot of folks like 901!
My B-i-o-n-i-c! My precioussssssss! Ooops! Sorry 'bout that . Kinda slipped off into that insane part of my mind.
I agree 100%. I actually very much like the stock user interface, and this phone FLIES. I live in an area where there is no 4G (yet) and I browse the internet faster than some of my friends with AT&T HSPA+ phones. This phone is freaking amazing.
The people who complain about the bionic, will complain about any phone they get. Many of them are just looking for an excuse to get a newer phone such as the razr or the galaxy nexus. Some of them need to be slapped around and told "your acting like an apple fanboy".
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The people who complain about the bionic, will complain about any phone they get. Many of them are just looking for an excuse to get a newer phone such as the razr or the galaxy nexus. Some of them need to be slapped around and told "your acting like an apple fanboy".
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Lol. Not true for me. I like the bionic, but have noticed FAR less data drops on my razr.
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I was wondering where we bionic owners came from and also what we like / dislike about our old phones and our bionic.
I came from the OG Droid to the Eris to the Droid Incredible to the Bionic. I really miss the development of the og, Eris, and incredible. There was just so much available. And I really miss the simplicity thoes 3 had. And I miss ICS on the Droid Incredible (a fully working 3g data camera working ICS).Didn't like the lack of ram on the Eris and og. Now to the Bionic, I love the omap4, 4.3in screen, front camera, 1gb of ram. What I don't like is blur, the lack of development, and I really hate the way this whole thing is set up with safestrap and having 2 systems. Its just crazy! And having to make sure you come from .893 or .901 before you flash a rom.What ever happened to root, cwm, format the whole system, boot, data, ect. then flash away. Bionic is root, safestrap, and hope you don't screw up cause there is no way to cwm from a bootloop.
Sorry for rant but its just how I feel. And don't think for one sec I don't appreciate what the developers have done cause without their safestrap/bootstrap and roms, this phone would be so locked down it wouldn't even be funny. I have just never seen it like this. Now lets hear where you came from and your likes and dislikes.
I came from the charge which I loved the light feel of the phone however hareare as well as software was lacking but I loved the impossibility of brick unless you are retarred before that it was a epic whitch was nothing special on a side not the charge had a a lot faster 4g speeds I lose about 30 percent of speed on the bionic
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I came from the Nexus S 4g on Sprint, loved the phone, but the reception was absolutely terrible I would go on international roaming inside my own house
I cam from Nextel to Motorola Razr to Iphone 3 3gs 4 then Droid Samsung s2 then
Samsung Galaxy S2 SKY i727.
Like the android brighter and bigger screen. Apps are similar but battery drain is definitely worse on the SKY.
Almost returned to Iphone 4s but just didn't see and advantage.
Learning curve for the Droid took about a week to learn, root, cook rom, brick un brick break and now I think I got it almost right. 60 days on droid.
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I came from the charge which I loved the light feel of the phone however hareare as well as software was lacking but I loved the impossibility of brick unless you are retarred before that it was a epic whitch was nothing special on a side not the charge had a a lot faster 4g speeds I lose about 30 percent of speed on the bionic
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+1, loved my old Charge.
I started with the Droid Eris in the early days of Android. Loved the rom community very much. HTC should have.had better quality control on production because most of my issues were physical. Went through 5 of them before Verizon sent me a Droid 2.
Used the Droid 2 until I was eligible for upgrade. Got HTC thunderbolt and used it for 2 weeks then traded it in for LG revolution. Loved thunderbolt but had random reboot issues.
Hated the revolution. Hardly any rom development for a phone with unlocked bootloader. Even had messed up boot animations that prevented anyone from having a custom boot animation for months after it was released (used some funky rle files instead of the standard bootanimatio.zip or other common boot animations found on Android).
Finally got.fed up with the revolution and paid $600 for the bionic. I love my bionic but admit that Motorola totally screwed it up when you consider that this was the most hyped android ever released.
In the future, I'll probably stick to HTC because they have the best rom development communities. The battery life isn't as good as it is with Motorola but the selection of roms can get me past that, especially when the roms will improve their battery life.
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I hate Samsung nor will I ever own one. For what can be said about the bright screen and everything, Samsung phones have some of the most issues.running apps from the android market. I'm always reading comments on 4 star apps from Samsung users having problems with the app. As an app developer, the majority of complaints come from Samsung users. I'd have to say 80% of the problems are coming from Samsung users. They are having issues that owners of other androids aren't having. In many cases, lot of app developers are having their apps rated down because of an issue that is Samsung's fault because the user doesn't realize the problem is with Samsung. With as many devices that are available, most app developers cannot ensure compatibility among every single device as its not possible for us to own every single one to test on. The majority of android app developers are independent and in many cases, are working from home. Since they're not being financed by major billion dollar corporations, they don't have the budget to buy additional devices. This is also a major reason many app developers for the iPhone won't come over to Android even as Android continues to outsell the iPhone. There is also an issue about Android owners being known for being too cheap to buy apps (not sure how true this really is, but it is a real perception. The majority of people who are downloading pirated content never would buy it anyways so the damages you hear about are greatly over exaggerated) .
While Samsung may have some of the sexiest phones, they're like having a Porsche running with bad spark plugs.
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This is good guys. Keep it coming.
It also sounds like people that have owned HTC prior are like me and miss it.
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This is good guys. Keep it coming.
It also sounds like people that have owned HTC prior are like me and miss it.
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I had a thunderbolt, and that's the reason I'll stay far away from HTC from now on.
Here's my response to the rootz thread
" I had a Droid X, and a Thunderbolt before. I loved my X and only got a t bolt for 4g, what a mistake that was. I rarely ever saw 4g with the t bolt, I thought my area had poor coverage and then I got the bionic and realized it was a problem with the bolt. My t bolt also had horrible sound quality, the mic and both speakers sucked. That phone had so many problems (I went through 6) that I won't be getting another HTC anytime soon."
Come on guys. I know there is more stories on where you came from. Keep it coming.
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I started with the htc hero than palm pre then htc evo then htc evo 3d then the DROID charge and finally DROID bionic. The bionic has been good to me ....but I feel like I need a little bit more. Im running eclipse 2.1 on 901 but im used to having the development like the evo. There were so many options. Im tempted to get the razr maxx but im afraid something else will come out that's better...even tho it will always happen
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Hold off on the razer. They are releasing a developers edition razer with unlocked bootloader. Makes me wonder if any previous phones will ever get their bootloaders unlocked since they are releasing developer editions now.
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Really I thought it wasn't coming to the US...
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I read something last night about it. Ill see if I can find it again and post a link later this afternoon.
Lets hear more on where you came from and why you like/dislike the phones guys.
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The one thing I can say I miss about the thunderbolt is sound profiles. It saved different profiles for the built in speaker and headphones, this is a feature that should become standard on Android.
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I started with the htc hero than palm pre then htc evo then htc evo 3d then the DROID charge and finally DROID bionic. The bionic has been good to me ....but I feel like I need a little bit more. Im running eclipse 2.1 on 901 but im used to having the development like the evo. There were so many options. Im tempted to get the razr maxx but im afraid something else will come out that's better...even tho it will always happen
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Your going to find a better rom development community with HTC phones. Its pretty much standard that HTC gets the rom development. If you're looking for the type of community that you had.with the evo, you will have to stay with HTC or get a nexus.
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Started with the Eris, then the Incredible, and now the bionic. This is not a bad phone by any means. But I am glad my DINC is still alive and kicking.
Again the phone itself I love. Just as others have said though, the locked bootloader and lack of dev support just ain't what I'm used too.
But I have raging fast 4g for only $50
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My roots are simple. Smartphone-wise, I started on Windows Mobile and used a few different HTC phones(8525, Tilt, Tilt 2) over the course of my early experience. Definitely easy to mod. However, I didn't like where Windows Phone was going(still don't), so I made the switch to android with the Droid X. It will always be special to me. I could have picked a phone without a locked bootloader, but I wouldn't have had the same raw power. Only 2 months ago, I upgraded to the Bionic. I wanted to hold out for the Droid 4(missed the keyboard), but Verizon made me a deal I couldn't refuse.
Will be more specific soon.
Wow, I forgot about windows phone. I had the Motorola q and q9m and actually liked em. I didn't like what came after windows mobile 6.1 and 6.5 which is what windows mobile is now.
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I came from a T-Mobile G1.
...yeah. So you can imagine the nature of the Bionic upgrade for me. It was literally an exponential upgrade in terms of everything. Lol.
I'v finally gotten Verizon to replace my revolution with another phone and they're sending me a Bionic. How is this phone and I noticed it's got android 4.0 listed on their page at Verizon and was curious if that means I can upgrade when I get it or if it means upgradable at a later time.
How is this phone by the way? Will I really notice a good improvement with the dual core 1ghz processor and 512mb ram over the revolution I had even though it was freezing, etc?
I'm a former revolution owner. This is a much better phone, with more development for it. It doesn't currently have an official ice cream sandwich but there are several unofficial versions to choose from.
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And you will definitely notice the difference between the revolution and the bionic.
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So the listing for ICS on their site means it's scheduled to get ICS fairly soon then right?
Honestly though, I'm just glad to be off the Revolution =/. God I had so many problems with that phone, hopefully this one will be better off and a bit faster
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So the listing for ICS on their site means it's scheduled to get ICS fairly soon then right?
Honestly though, I'm just glad to be off the Revolution =/. God I had so many problems with that phone, hopefully this one will be better off and a bit faster
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For me, it ran faster with nonrooted stock than the revolution did on it's best day running mtmichaels roms. He did a good job with that phone, but you can only dress up a pile of crap so much.
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Good to know. Maybe Ill get to root it for more than a day lol.
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I have had both and the LG was good but you will deffinetly notice a difference. The Bionic is a hole new ballgame.
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Which verison do you think they're sending me? The 512mb RAM one or the 1gb RAM one or are they all 1gb RAM?
Bionic is good but The RazR is better
After 6 Motorola Bionics Verizon finally put me into the RazR!!!! And lovin it, The Bionic is a great handset don't get me wrong, the Razr suits my use better...
Never hear of 512 bionic
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After 6 Motorola Bionics Verizon finally put me into the RazR!!!! And lovin it, The Bionic is a great handset don't get me wrong, the Razr suits my use better...
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I heard it was way better than what I had so that's why I agreed to get it when they offered it to me. You're saying it's not good, god I hope that's not true because this revolution I can't even go from unlock to pulling down the notification pane unless 40+ seconds have passed =/.
The Bionic and Razr are both great phones. I have tried a Razr and I personally like Bionic better. They both have their perks. Its all about personal preference.
Needless to say they're both probably miles ahead of the revolution lol.
Now, there's not a way to dual boot is there? Rather not replace teh stock right as I get it but want to try out that ICS rom.
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Needless to say they're both probably miles ahead of the revolution lol.
Now, there's not a way to dual boot is there? Rather not replace teh stock right as I get it but want to try out that ICS rom.
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You can use safestrap to get back to stock.
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Needless to say they're both probably miles ahead of the revolution lol.
Now, there's not a way to dual boot is there? Rather not replace teh stock right as I get it but want to try out that ICS rom.
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Safestrap basically dualboots two roms. You can have stock on your safe side and load up an ics rom on the non safe side. It will save it to the /preinstall partition and in about as long as it takes to reboot you can switch back and forth.
Love my bioNic
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Just switch over too to the Bionic, coming from a Samsung, loving how fast this phone is, and trying to wrap my head around all the dev going on for it. Good luck with your new phone.
PS I didn't last a day without rooting mine, wanted all the bloat gone!
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trying to wrap my head around all the dev going on for it
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All what dev?
a 512 bionic would have been the D3 w/o 4g, i kept that phone for 28 days too long.... lol
Well just got my phone and the battery, wont be here til tomorrow =/. There's no way to use it without the battery is it? Will it even work even if it's plugged into the charger?
I realy like my bionic, but the other day i was playing with my friends razr and notice almost no speed diferences. I was wondering if their is any differences between the two. I know the bionic is thiner, lighter, and has a better batery life, but what about internal hardware.
Thanks.
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I realy like my bionic, but the other day i was playing with my friends razr and notice almost no speed diferences. I was wondering if their is any differences between the two. I know the bionic is thiner, lighter, and has a better batery life, but what about internal hardware.
Thanks.
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Umm...:what: The Bionic is not thinner or lighter then the Razr....
You can compare the two on the Verizon website or use the search feature in this site.
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Pretty sure he meant the opposite, but yeah I've messed around with the RAZR a bit and it didn't seem too much faster
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My bad. I type faster than i think.
They have pretty much the same hardware so the phones are very similar.
Key Differences:
1. Razr has an Amoled screen and Bionic doesn't.
2. Razr is thinner.
3. Processors are both TI OMAP 4430 but Bionic is clocked at 1ghz while Razr is at
1.2ghz.
4. Razr battery isnt removable unless you take the phone apart (voids Warranty)
The razr is a good choice if you like rooting as the software seems to keep itself awake when sleeping as a problem with a lot of android phones
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The razr is a good choice if you like rooting as the software seems to keep itself awake when sleeping as a problem with a lot of android phones
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The Razr is a terrible choice if you like rooting. The locked bootloader kills it, just like the Bionic. I have the Bionic, my sister has the Razr Maxx. I have to say that I like the look of the Bionic better, but would love to dump the pentile display and fit the Razr Maxx's battery into my phone. Other than that and the bootloader, I don't mind the phone.
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The Razr is a terrible choice if you like rooting. The locked bootloader kills it, just like the Bionic. I have the Bionic, my sister has the Razr Maxx. I have to say that I like the look of the Bionic better, but would love to dump the pentile display and fit the Razr Maxx's battery into my phone. Other than that and the bootloader, I don't mind the phone.
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On GB kernel and modified stock rom I get 4 days of a couple hundred texts, some facebook
Edit: plus seeing how your comparing 2 Motorola phones that are locked down rooting is the only way to change the look and feel of the phone. My fiancee has the bionic and she has random reboots, freezes, data drops (Not from the tower cause I dont have the drops) and her battery wont last as long if she uses it. But of course its not rooted stock. She wants me to mod it and I said wait for ICS first. The Razr reminds me of Motorola's attempt of an Iphone but few things changed. If the software worked better and they put out updates like Apple ( cant believe to admit that) then Maybe android would suffice as an independent OS from Google. Our devs do a much better job at tweaking and making the software. I havent had any real trouble ( knock on wood) with my razr even with rooting
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On GB kernel and modified stock rom I get 4 days of a couple hundred texts, some facebook
Edit: plus seeing how your comparing 2 Motorola phones that are locked down rooting is the only way to change the look and feel of the phone. My fiancee has the bionic and she has random reboots, freezes, data drops (Not from the tower cause I dont have the drops) and her battery wont last as long if she uses it. But of course its not rooted stock. She wants me to mod it and I said wait for ICS first. The Razr reminds me of Motorola's attempt of an Iphone but few things changed. If the software worked better and they put out updates like Apple ( cant believe to admit that) then Maybe android would suffice as an independent OS from Google. Our devs do a much better job at tweaking and making the software. I havent had any real trouble ( knock on wood) with my razr even with rooting
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I agree that apple can manage updates way better, but the drop support for "older" devices to quick, and some devices that are brand new get new features that the other devices aperently can't khandle. If I upgrade my bionic to ics it probably will have all the same feture s as a razr with is. I can pic up my Droid 1 and boot up I cs and have it run smoothly.
So i have had my Bionic for about 2 months now and im looking to get a new phone already. Love the Bionic to death, just bored of it, and was wondering what phones compare to the Bionic for specs and root capabilities and BL unlock. I know Verizon is pretty tight when it comes to phones that have bL that are unlockable. So what would you all recommend as an upgrade?
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So i have had my Bionic for about 2 months now and im looking to get a new phone already. Love the Bionic to death, just bored of it, and was wondering what phones compare to the Bionic for specs and root capabilities and BL unlock. I know Verizon is pretty tight when it comes to phones that have bL that are unlockable. So what would you all recommend as an upgrade?
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If I didn't lose my unlimited plan I'd get the Galaxy S3, that being said, how can you be bored with the Bionic? It's not a clown:laugh:, just a phone.
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It's not a clown:laugh:, just a phone.
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LMFAO! Mine didn't come with the red nose and after 6 months stopped making animal shaped balloons!
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I've had mine since December, and am planning to have it for 2 years (longer if I don't break it). What's to get bored of? Does a 6 month newer phone get you a different internet?
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Well if you're going from 3G to 4G i'd say it's not any different but faster XD. With the new ICS coming out your Bionic will be different. Not sure how you get bored with a phone after 2 months. I've had mine sometime after launch and with the new ICS Leak it's like a whole new phone. I am not sure what you're looking for especially if you're looking at a phone with near specs. If after 2 month you're bored of it obviously the phone wasn't meant for you. ICS brought more life out of the phone for me. As stated above I intend on keeping this phone for years especially with VZW's so called shared plans. Almost all VZWs phones have a locked bootloader. Hopefully Hashcode gets us the ability to load custom kernels then that's when the fun begins.
I find the bionic to be as good as a nexus with the leaked ics. Then again I prefer stability and sticking to a rom for several months at a time unless there's major bugs
So personally id keep the bionic as there really aren't any huge upgrades out there.
Unless you love a amoled screen but I really like the display on the bionic as I can make out things in sunlight
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Keep it!
There aren't really any phones out with more horsepower than the Bionic - with dual core and a gig of ram it can run any Android flavor just fine.
I'm curious - what is it that "bores" you with the Bionic? What feature would you be looking for?
Not meaning this to be snarky - but seems to me if you're "bored" with your phone you have waay too much time on your hands. Start developing with it if you have free time - us regular users will love you for the work!