Hello guys,
I'm using ARHD 6.0 with the newest kangaroo kernel on my incredible S.
While the phone is being plugged to a wall charger, it works a lot faster and much smoother. I've experienced other Roms that would lag while being charged.
How can it possibly be that the phone works better with a charger plugged in?
It really drives me crazy since the heat of the charge should affect negatively.
Placebo effect?
Hi,there. ARHD 6.0 is known for its stability plus performance and i think here it's all about power managment.
Modern gaming laptops with discrete graphics give only about 2/3 of their performance while working from battery.
In case of laptop it's a bios regulated feature and as far as i know it's not possible to affect it in the OS.
And in phone it may be some sort of kernel tweak which regulates performance and sets cpu to 100% while charging.
This may be the explanation of performance boost and high temperature in your device.
Try to measure performance in Antutu or smth like that. It's the only way to check it.
I've experienced the same on my phone across several ROMs, kernels, governors etc. I suspect my battery can't deliver enough power as it's quite worn. With a charger connected everything gets the power it demands.
I started suspecting this after I connected a charger and the digitizer stopped working, I had random freezes etc. When I checked the charger it was marked as "150mA", which is extremely low. When using a charger at >=700mA everything is smooth, so I suppose this makes sense. A new battery is in the mail so I'll find out soon
Related
hello, is it a common problem? or is there a problem with mine? Not actually very hot, but hotter than the room temperature
I have the same thing, especially if the handset is charging through USB from my laptop.
I don't recharge from USB as I've read that it is bad for the battery. Again, not very hot. Also slightly hot when using UiFi for a very long time, or playing a lot. I guess it's normal. Being used a lot ... :-? I don't know, just asking
Hi georgeono,
I can't remember how to disable charging on connectivity to the PC. Can you please point that out to me?
Many thanks,
Ayman
Hey, I already found it. Don't bother yourself )
It's Settings -> All Settings -> System Tab -> Power -> Battery Tab
And why would charging through USB be bad??
well, to make a good charge, you should leave the phone 5-6 hours (even though the led is green, I let it even up to 10 hours (charging at night)). When at PC, I don't think you all the time keep the phone pluged. In order to make a good charge, the battery has to be nearly empty (new phones work well without this waiting, but still, in time ... you see the differences). And I don't think anyone waits for his phone to be empty to connect via USB. .
I previously had an SE 850i (4 years used). Always charged when battery was empty, charged about 6 hours, and now, in stand-by, the battery resists 10-11 days. That is something ... 4 years!!!
It's normal,the battery heats up when under heavy use/if charged. It's nothing to worry about
Thanks. Had the same opinion, but still asked. never know ...
Hi
In order to make a good charge, the battery has to be nearly empty (new phones work well without this waiting, but still, in time ... you see the differences).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is a myth for lithium rechargeables
Lithium type batteries do not mind when they are charged, and topping them up is perfectly fine. Topping up little but often is probably going to extend the life of the battery if anything and not reduce it, why? The biggest killer of lithium type batteries is heat, and giving it a charge from nothing to the maximum means it gets opportunity to get very warm which ages it, whereas lots of little charges will not up the temperature nearly as much.
Also another myth, you can't damage lithium batteries by overcharging them, this is because the current is stopped when they are fully charged as if it wasn't they would explode!
Lithium batteries also have a use by date, and as soon as they are made they start to age and reduce in capacity, so you are better off using and abusing the battery to get as much from it as you can, as age and heat will probably kill it first.
Regards
Phil
My device is very hot when charging... Much hotter than my Touch Pro2 gets
i experienced a few times that my compact V (topaz model from T-mobile) freezes while using navigation software in the car, meanwhile charging... When i took my phone from the holder, it was extremely hot! After holding it in front of the airco for a while and restarting, everything worked fine again. Anyone else with the same problem?
I found out, that using GPS uses the battery extremely.
It drains with about 300 mA, while normal usage ist at <70-80 mA and standby even a lot less.
Additionally I found out, that the device becomes sluggish due to processor-Usage of nearly 100% (while using gps).
That might be what you are seeing.
Regards Thorsten
talking about GPS usage, when ever i'm on iGo when i minimize it to make a phone call, it doesnt connects. i had to exit iGO n wait a while before it is available to dail. or a quick soft resets solve it.
any of u have the same problem?
hellboy1970 said:
i experienced a few times that my compact V (topaz model from T-mobile) freezes while using navigation software in the car, meanwhile charging... When i took my phone from the holder, it was extremely hot! After holding it in front of the airco for a while and restarting, everything worked fine again. Anyone else with the same problem?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
similar problem here - igo gets disconnected from gps receiver because it's getting hot !
im running cog 2.4.1 and it seems the battery drains fast i love the rom but what can i do to make the battery life better
Best solution is lower your CPU by using set CPU in the market is like 3 bucks but I found underclocking my CPU works really good. Is not going to save you tons of batterly life but works. Also I notice when the Phone is actualy cold your battery doesnt drain as much
Problem shoot
Did you flash at 100%?
Did you take you sim out when you flashed?
Have you tried a battery calibration?
I think the battery on this version s on par with previous.
Captivate
Cog 2.4
no i didnt take out my sim card should reflash it with my sim card out
and i dont know how to do battery calibration
I do not think you have to reflash unless you encounter some additional bugs. It is recommended that you remove your sim prior to flash. Some say it can effect battery
Calibration
Charge phone while on till 100%
Unplug and turn off
Once it is completely off plug back in charge till 100%. Volume ticker brings up battery display
Power on and let phone completely boot.
Power off plug back in once off charge till 100%
While off hold volume up and down and power till at&t screen comes on. Let go. You should be in stock recovery.
Click reinstall packages to get to clockwork recovery. Go to advanced then wipe battery stats. Reboot phone
Run phone until it dies with zero power. Charge while off till it hits 100%
Captivate
Cog 2.4
i dont think when i flashed it the battery was a 100% is that a problem
chibixzero said:
Best solution is lower your CPU by using set CPU in the market is like 3 bucks but I found underclocking my CPU works really good. Is not going to save you tons of batterly life but works. Also I notice when the Phone is actualy cold your battery doesnt drain as much
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's not a solution. That's a workaround. He's implying that his battery is draining faster with 2.4.1 than other ROMs/versions. That's like complaining that someone is hitting your head with a hammer, and instead of getting rid of the person/hammer, you put on a helmet.
Also, using SetCPU with a Captivate varies greatly upon usage.
SetCPU doesn't handle minimum CPU speeds even remotely as well as normal system settings, thus you may have a lower maximum frequency (and thus consumption) but a significantly higher minimum frequency (and proportionately higher consumption). So if you're using your phone at 100% capacity 100% of the time, then sure, SetCPU would work great, but for any realistic usage, your mileage will vary.
dfuse06 said:
i dont think when i flashed it the battery was a 100% is that a problem
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It shouldn't be a big problem, or at least, not a problem that recharging to full then clearing battery stats while it is full like others suggested wouldn't solve.
well ok thanks guys im going to try the battery calibration i hope it works cuz this rom is freaking awesome
The point in calibrating the battery is so that your phone. Knows what a true 100% charge and a full drain means. When you flash especially when your battery is not fully charged the phone may tell you that there is a full charge when you actually only have 80%. So obviously you battery appears to drain faster. This does not make your battery a super battery, just gives you a true reading
Captivate
Cog 2.4
Ok I have a Motorola Atrix HD running Cyanogenmod 10.1.3 and using the EB40 battery.
1. I would like to know what charger I should be using, I have the 850mA motorola charger that came with my phone, a 1amp pantech charger, a ONN 1.2amp charger and a 1.5amp off brand charger. Also how long should this battery take to charge?
2. I would like any tips or tricks to extend my battery life, my longest charge yet has lasted 26 hours of heavy use (im also running Juice Defender Ultimate) and I keep seeing people talking about getting 3-3 and a half days out of one charge.
3. Is there anyway to make my built in battery meter more accurate it doesnt seem to be reading this battery properly
On a side note, I accidently deep discharged my EB40 when i was running the initial charge out, and it was plugged and unplugged several times trying to get the phone to power back on, Im wondering if i damaged my battery and if so is there a way to fix it?
Sorry for the extremely long question any help would be greatly appreciated.
Wolfeman781992 said:
Ok I have a Motorola Atrix HD running Cyanogenmod 10.1.3 and using the EB40 battery.
1. I would like to know what charger I should be using, I have the 850mA motorola charger that came with my phone, a 1amp pantech charger, a ONN 1.2amp charger and a 1.5amp off brand charger. Also how long should this battery take to charge?
2. I would like any tips or tricks to extend my battery life, my longest charge yet has lasted 26 hours of heavy use (im also running Juice Defender Ultimate) and I keep seeing people talking about getting 3-3 and a half days out of one charge.
3. Is there anyway to make my built in battery meter more accurate it doesnt seem to be reading this battery properly
On a side note, I accidently deep discharged my EB40 when i was running the initial charge out, and it was plugged and unplugged several times trying to get the phone to power back on, Im wondering if i damaged my battery and if so is there a way to fix it?
Sorry for the extremely long question any help would be greatly appreciated.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1. AHD could only pull 1A max. Beside good charger, you also need a good usb cable so that the power does not lost in transit. Install CurrentWidget to check how much power does your phone get while charging.
2. Minimum screen brightness, auto on/off data connection (LeanData app), undervolting? Battery consumption differs from phone to phone depending on how you use the phone, how good is your telco signal etc.
3. Perhaps you need to flash another rom? I'm on CM11 KitKat and the reading is fine. But battery life is not as good as stock JellyBean rom.
4. If your phone is dead after fully discharge, just leave it plugged in. after a while it will come to life.
pijes said:
1. AHD could only pull 1A max. Beside good charger, you also need a good usb cable so that the power does not lost in transit. Install CurrentWidget to check how much power does your phone get while charging.
2. Minimum screen brightness, auto on/off data connection (LeanData app), undervolting? Battery consumption differs from phone to phone depending on how you use the phone, how good is your telco signal etc.
3. Perhaps you need to flash another rom? I'm on CM11 KitKat and the reading is fine. But battery life is not as good as stock JellyBean rom.
4. If your phone is dead after fully discharge, just leave it plugged in. after a while it will come to life.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1.So the cable that came with the 1A pantech charger would be fine? what are the effects of using a small or larger charger? say the factory .85A? longer charge times?
2. Juice defender controls my screen brightness at roughly 40% normally (I have good eyes) data shuts off with screen unless traffic exceeds 100kb/s, undervolting? lots of social networking and texting, music player (rocket player), and a playing a power hungry game, 1-3 bars at home depending on were i put my phone, 4-5 bars else were
3. Is that stable or nightly? I only run stable roms due to my phone being my only source of internet and i have no back up phone
4. Good to know thanks :laugh:
Also on a 1A charger with quality cable CurrentWidget should be showing 1A(or 1000mA)? and were CurrentWidget shows battery current draw what is considered high?
sorry for all the question im kind of a noob to modding my phone i ran cyanogen mod on my OG Droid but never did any real modding on it phone ran faster and battery life actually increased, same on my AHD my battery life increased after flashing to cyanogenmod 10.1.3 i gained approx 3 hours over stock jellybean
pijes said:
1. AHD could only pull 1A max. Beside good charger, you also need a good usb cable so that the power does not lost in transit. Install CurrentWidget to check how much power does your phone get while charging.
2. Minimum screen brightness, auto on/off data connection (LeanData app), undervolting? Battery consumption differs from phone to phone depending on how you use the phone, how good is your telco signal etc.
3. Perhaps you need to flash another rom? I'm on CM11 KitKat and the reading is fine. But battery life is not as good as stock JellyBean rom.
4. If your phone is dead after fully discharge, just leave it plugged in. after a while it will come to life.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wow that LeanData app is amazing, It's a shame that can't get the EB40 battery because It couldn't ship to my country so I need to live with the EB20 one.
Juice Defender Ultimate controls Data on/off Sync Screen brightness and timeout sound profiles based on schedules, bluetooth and cpu governer and clock speed if your rooted theres also controls for gps and wifi but i never uses those, i paid like $7 for it but i think it was well worth it on EB20 and stock jellybean i was averaging 10-11 hours of heavy use which was way better than my out the box 6-7 when i flashed to cyanogenmod and ran that with juice defender it increased to 13-16 hours, after adding the EB40 battery my shortest charge has been 18.5 hours, i was realy hoping to hit the 30 hour mark with all the people talking about going 3 and a half days on 1 charge
Wolfeman781992 said:
1.So the cable that came with the 1A pantech charger would be fine? what are the effects of using a small or larger charger? say the factory .85A? longer charge times?
2. Juice defender controls my screen brightness at roughly 40% normally (I have good eyes) data shuts off with screen unless traffic exceeds 100kb/s, undervolting? lots of social networking and texting, music player (rocket player), and a playing a power hungry game, 1-3 bars at home depending on were i put my phone, 4-5 bars else were
3. Is that stable or nightly? I only run stable roms due to my phone being my only source of internet and i have no back up phone
4. Good to know thanks :laugh:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1. EB40 is rated at 3200mAh (miliamp per hour). so in theory, a 1A charger will take 3.2 hours to fully charge it. a 2.1A charger will still take 3.2 hours. 0.85A charger will definitely take longer time. do correct me on this. and btw, AHD has the qualcomm quick charging feature built in. I'm guessing 3-4 hours to fully charge this phone from 0-100%.
2. Keep using JD if it already improves the battery life. when the phone gets 1-3 bars or in a place with low signal coverage, it will draw more power to get the coverage.
3. I think most KitKat rom based on the latest CM11 release are quite stable. you can read about them in the development threads.
Games/apps that use an lot of power are bad for the battery, as the battery gets hot as it discharges, and heat is shortens the life of the battery, But if you tablet is at 100% and plugged-in does all of the power come from the charger? , If it does come from the charger you will not have to have your battery replaced so soon, the cpu will still get hot but that cannot be helped, I have read that some people game in power saver mode as this limits the cpu power used and your tablet will run cooler and for longer, you will have to see if your game will work without stuttering in power save mode.
I have never tried this so has anybody tried it, one possible problem the user manual mentions touchscreen problems if you use the tablet while charging.
Get your six-axis controller connected and you are laughing.
John.
You will get touch issues if you try to do anything while charging.
Tinderbox (UK) said:
Games/apps that use an lot of power are bad for the battery, as the battery gets hot as it discharges, and heat is shortens the life of the battery, But if you tablet is at 100% and plugged-in does all of the power come from the charger? , If it does come from the charger you will not have to have your battery replaced so soon, the cpu will still get hot but that cannot be helped, I have read that some people game in power saver mode as this limits the cpu power used and your tablet will run cooler and for longer, you will have to see if your game will work without stuttering in power save mode.
I have never tried this so has anybody tried it, one possible problem the user manual mentions touchscreen problems if you use the tablet while charging.
Get your six-axis controller connected and you are laughing.
John.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I almost always charge while gaming (long sessions on intensive games) and have had ZERO problems...with anything.
Sent from my SM-T700 using Tapatalk
---------- Post added at 12:21 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:14 AM ----------
TiTiB said:
I almost always charge while gaming (long sessions on intensive games) and have had ZERO problems...with anything.
Sent from my SM-T700 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
BTW: klimtwifi
TiTiB (tweak it 'til it breaks)
Galaxy Tab S ∆ SM-T700 ∆ klimtwifi
I think it still uses the battery power and simply just charges what is being used even at 100% because I can still lose battery life while playing emulated games. There appears to be not enough power to do heavy computing with a simple USB charger. Tablets are incredibly power efficient in terms of how little they need to charge and their output. That is why even when the device is totally out of power, you have to wait a few minutes for it to turn on (as opposed to laptops, they simply power on without a battery.)
So basically, if you are charging while playing a game you are effectively shortening your life even further as the charging increases heat, you should only charge when the device has reached <5% in my opinion. Carry something like this in a backpack for emergency charges: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00UBDI7EC?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00
Hi,
I am looking for a stable CustomROM for GPS-Navi operation.
I would like to stay with the original ROM, BUT in GPS mode WITH charger the battery is drained.
For a long distance in the car this is a problem due the device runs out of power at some point, because the battery has been sucked empty by the GPS.
Are there custom ROMs that do not have this problem?
Many greetings
duffy6
duffy6 said:
Hi,
I am looking for a stable CustomROM for GPS-Navi operation.
I would like to stay with the original ROM, BUT in GPS mode WITH charger the battery is drained.
For a long distance in the car this is a problem due the device runs out of power at some point, because the battery has been sucked empty by the GPS.
Are there custom ROMs that do not have this problem?
Many greetings
duffy6
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nope. I have the same issue. Live with it
I did remove the motherboard and replaced the thermal pad with gc-extreme cooling paste and it did make a difference.
The phone can be used even hotter before it stops charging but it will still happen eventually.
Using the GPS does heat up the phone quite a bit too.
However mine does not turn off even if the battery hover at 1% if the charger is still plugged in..
The solution is either a new device or live with it, the GPS is known to be one of the biggest battery drainers even for a new smartphone (but a new one does hold out more), besides custom roms won't help you (some has overheating issue and fast battery drain, and others with no GPS or a slow GPS detection), Xperia has Stamina mode which should help with the battery drain.