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Can anyone tell me why my phone vs980 comes up offline in adb when i type adb devices

deathsquad737 said:
Can anyone tell me why my phone vs980 comes up offline in adb when i type adb devices
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Drivers aren't installed right most likely... or you don't have the phone in debugger mode.

drivers
mjones73 said:
Drivers aren't installed right most likely... or you don't have the phone in debugger mode.
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I think your right bout the drivers where should i go for the right ones?

deathsquad737 said:
I think your right bout the drivers where should i go for the right ones?
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Try here, can't test it at work but I got it from the extended FAQs in the ioroot thread..
http://bit.ly/1ibRvc3

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error: device not found

Hi right now Im trying to unlock my bootloader and im on the EUR-XXX one But when I try adb reboot oem-unlock
I just get error:device not found
fatality911 said:
Hi right now Im trying to unlock my bootloader and im on the EUR-XXX one But when I try adb reboot oem-unlock
I just get error:device not found
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Have you installed the adb drivers?
noppoer2 said:
Have you installed the adb drivers?
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I dunno Where do I find them?
Download the file in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2180688
Then put the adb.exe file in your windows directory.
Enable USB debugging on phone.
You should be able to get it working from there.
boonkeng said:
Download the file in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2180688
Then put the adb.exe file in your windows directory.
Enable USB debugging on phone.
You should be able to get it working from there.
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Noob question but where is windows directory?
fatality911 said:
Noob question but where is windows directory?
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c:/windows
boonkeng said:
c:/windows
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Kk thanks
fatality911 said:
Hi right now Im trying to unlock my bootloader and im on the EUR-XXX one But when I try adb reboot oem-unlock
I just get error:device not found
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Use ALL in One tool for unlock
HERE
If you have root permission, put usb cable and enable debugging
Tool make it for you.
Select first 1 option for install adb driver then select 2 option,
Don't connect your device in USB 3.0... (for now isn't compatible)
Use USB 2.0.. and all have to run very nice!!!
manos20082 said:
Don't connect your device in USB 3.0... (for now isn't compatible)
Use USB 2.0.. and all have to run very nice!!!
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I rooted and unlocked from a 3.0 port
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alekthefirst said:
I rooted and unlocked from a 3.0 port
Sent from my LG-P880 using xda app-developers app
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I don't kwon about you, but i had this isue before!!!
maybe this is the reason, but i don't know...
anyway... :angel:

[SOLVED] [Q] [HELP!] Semi Bricked!

solved!
expertzero1 said:
So i have nothing on my system, adb push doesnt work because it doesnt recognize the device. Been at this for atleast 3 hours lol, need some assistance!
will do a donation for if i can get it back up and running
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Can we get a little more info. I'm guessing you have wiped everything so no boot. But is the bootloader unlocked? What flavor One are we doing tonight? Can you boot to recovery? Can you get to fastboot? What kind of computer and OS version?
nullkill said:
Can we get a little more info. I'm guessing you have wiped everything so no boot. But is the bootloader unlocked? What flavor One are we doing tonight? Can you boot to recovery? Can you get to fastboot? What kind of computer and OS version?
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Yep damn cwm wiped everything. Yes bootloader is unlocked and its the dev edition.
Yes i can boot to recover and fast boot.
Windows 7 64 bit.
I have adb and fastboot installed already. I havnt set up the android sdk yet, do i need that?
thnx for helping!
EDIT: just saw the ruu posted lol
expertzero1 said:
Yep damn cwm wiped everything. Yes bootloader is unlocked and its the dev edition.
Yes i can boot to recover and fast boot.
Windows 7 64 bit.
I have adb and fastboot installed already. I havnt set up the android sdk yet, do i need that?
thnx for helping!
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Android SDK will get you ADB driver so the phone should be recognized. You can also flash Team Win Recovery and the USB support is working just has to be plugged into the computer upon boot. You can then copy over a ROM and done.
Also ATT or Dev or Tmo version?
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This also has the driver faster than SDK http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2183942 all in one tool kit and will do team win as well
nullkill said:
Android SDK will get you ADB driver so the phone should be recognized. You can also flash Team Win Recovery and the USB support is working just has to be plugged into the computer upon boot. You can then copy over a ROM and done.
Also ATT or Dev or Tmo version?
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Its the dev edition, since the ruu is posted, i dont need to do fastboot anymore right? haha just a bit over my head, been at this for 3 hours lol
expertzero1 said:
Its the dev edition, since the ruu is posted, i dont need to do fastboot anymore right? haha just a bit over my head, been at this for 3 hours lol
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Correct the problem is my downloads are 8 days and I have a very good conection, the HTC servers are getting hammered might be a while like a day for another link or for them to calm down. It's 990 megs. Might be faster to do the all in one tool kit and install drivers and then install team win recovery and then just flash a ROM.
nullkill said:
Correct the problem is my downloads are 8 days and I have a very good conection, the HTC servers are getting hammered might be a while like a day for another link or for them to calm down. It's 990 megs. Might be faster to do the all in one tool kit and install drivers and then install team win recovery and then just flash a ROM.
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im almost done 90%
expertzero1 said:
im almost done 90%
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Not fair But that's good I have no need just in case for me
nullkill said:
Not fair But that's good I have no need just in case for me
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im going to try the adb stuff after im done playing league of legends lol
gotta learn this adb is a bit hard lol
are you dling straight from htc?
expertzero1 said:
im going to try the adb stuff after im done playing league of legends lol
gotta learn this adb is a bit hard lol
are you dling straight from htc?
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hey i cant find the adb thingy in the tool kit lol, are you talking about the htc drivers?
Yes the toolkit will install drivers for adb
just select install HTC drivers
nullkill said:
Yes the toolkit will install drivers for adb
just select install HTC drivers
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ok cool, the damn ruu failed while instaling
nullkill said:
Not fair But that's good I have no need just in case for me
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installing the drivers, its not recognizing it through adb, fastboot works though, kinda figured it out, gotta relock the bootloader for the ruu lol
expertzero1 said:
installing the drivers, its not recognizing it through adb, fastboot works though, kinda figured it out, gotta relock the bootloader for the ruu lol
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yeah cant get adb to recognize it, but fastboot works.
uninstalled and restainlled the drivers doesnt help,
relocked the bootloader to install the ruu, gets stuck on sending lol
expertzero1 said:
yeah cant get adb to recognize it, but fastboot works.
uninstalled and restainlled the drivers doesnt help,
relocked the bootloader to install the ruu, gets stuck on sending lol
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Sorry didn't see before I went to sleep. Still stuck? We need to get drivers working there is a guide around here for win 7 64 bit. Let me know where you are at.

Some one please help!!!!

i ahve tried to install a custom rom but it didnt flash properly, and i tried to do a restore of my stock rom but its not on my phone anymore all i can do is put the phone into bootloader and recovery, i have my stock rom backed up on my pc, but i cant find a way of getting my pc to recognise the phone to enable me to get the stock rom installed, my 400pound htc one might as well be a paperweight at this rate!!
surly there is a way i can get acess to the internal sd card??
Search for: adb sideload
BenPope said:
Search for: adb sideload
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will that work even tho i only have acess to boot loader and recovery?
also will i loose root?
nottys4 said:
will that work even tho i only have acess to boot loader and recovery?
also will i loose root?
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It depends on the recovery, but it works in TWRP.
It is the ROM that is rooted, so if you sideload a non-rooted ROM and flash it, you will lose root. It seems you don't have a working ROM, so you don't "have" root.
BenPope said:
It depends on the recovery, but it works in TWRP.
It is the ROM that is rooted, so if you sideload a non-rooted ROM and flash it, you will lose root. It seems you don't have a working ROM, so you don't "have" root.
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i had root and a custom rom on my phone but i reflashed a differnt rom and it wouldnt load only to realise i didnt have the working rom on my phone, ive tried adb side load and its not working, i followed the tutorial step by step???
any suggestions
nottys4 said:
i had root and a custom rom on my phone but i reflashed a differnt rom and it wouldnt load only to realise i didnt have the working rom on my phone, ive tried adb side load and its not working, i followed the tutorial step by step???
any suggestions
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Let me correct you. You had a custom ROM that was rooted.
My suggestion is to fix the problem.
I can't help you because:
1) I don't know what recovery you have
2) I don't know what tutorial you followed
3) I don't know in which way it is "not working"
I suggest you flash TWRP 2.6.3.4 and use adb sideload.
BenPope said:
Let me correct you. You had a custom ROM that was rooted.
My suggestion is to fix the problem.
I can't help you because:
1) I don't know what recovery you have
2) I don't know what tutorial you followed
3) I don't know in which way it is "not working"
I suggest you flash TWRP 2.6.3.4 and use adb sideload.
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i have twrp 2.6.3.3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2559200
thats the tutorial
it wont load any rom says it cant read the rom
Post your commands which you used to copy files
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SaHiLzZ said:
Post your commands which you used to copy files
sent from my mobile device
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all the commands that i sent are in the tutoruial that i shared
Get hold of a OTG cable. Put the ROM from the PC onto a USB stick and then flash it through your recovery using the OTG cable
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bored_stupid said:
Get hold of a OTG cable. Put the ROM from the PC onto a USB stick and then flash it through your recovery using the OTG cable
Sent from my Nexus 7 using XDA Premium HD app
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fanstastic idea but i need my phone to be able to boot back up to install super su and it cant because i dont have a rom installed on it, any idea of where i can get a stock unrooted rom from my m7 international?
i am completly stuck!!!!! is someone willing to connect to me via skype and help me out as i need my phone bacl on asap and dont know how to do it!!!
nottys4 said:
i am completly stuck!!!!! is someone willing to connect to me via skype and help me out as i need my phone bacl on asap and dont know how to do it!!!
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You need to get adb working on your PC or you could try what bored_stupid is suggesting. You are a long why from requiring supersu at this point.
mb_guy said:
You need to get adb working on your PC or you could try what bored_stupid is suggesting. You are a long why from requiring supersu at this point.
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are you able to have a chat with me on skype please and explain this in more detail, i've done so much in the past few days i dont even know where i am anymore
nottys4 said:
i had root and a custom rom on my phone but i reflashed a differnt rom and it wouldnt load only to realise i didnt have the working rom on my phone, ive tried adb side load and its not working, i followed the tutorial step by step???
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Try to be more precise! Which rom are your trying to flash? Give a link!
nottys4 said:
all the commands that i sent are in the tutoruial that i shared
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If you have posted a screenshot of your cmd prompt maybe we could pinpoint why its failing.
nottys4 said:
fanstastic idea but i need my phone to be able to boot back up to install super su and it cant because i dont have a rom installed on it, any idea of where i can get a stock unrooted rom from my m7 international?
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You don't even have a working rom so why are you still talking about root??? You don't need root to use a usb otg cable to flash a rom.
Make sure you have the latest android sdk installed on your computer and latest htc drivers.
Post the output of fastboot getvar all minus imei/sn
alray said:
Try to be more precise! Which rom are your trying to flash? Give a link!
If you have posted a screenshot of your cmd prompt maybe we could pinpoint why its failing.
You don't even have a working rom so why are you still talking about root??? You don't need root to use a usb otg cable to flash a rom.
Make sure you have the latest android sdk installed on your computer and latest htc drivers.
Post the output of fastboot getvar all minus imei/sn
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many thanks guys for your help i managed to get my phone back online again!! but i now have another problem...
hi there after completely messing my phone up i managed to get this rom back on and working!! but my phone gives this error message:
There was a problem communicating with google servers.
try again later.
does anyone know why this is??
anybody else having issues with thier google account??
nottys4 said:
anybody else having issues with thier google account??
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It is problem globally! Google is experiencing major error with sync servers.
or try this: go to accounts.google.com and in security (left panel) go to the list of 3rd party applications that are using your Google credentials and start revoking the applications that you no longer use.
Softor4pda said:
It is problem globally! Google is experiencing major error with sync servers.
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bugger!!! i really wanna get my phone set up too, any ideas of how long they will be down?

Fastboot drivers for W8.1?

My bootloader is locked and I was trying to bump up to 4.4.4
Problem is I have to flash my kernel manually via fastboot and my computer isn't recognizing my X in fb mode. I've done manual flashes on Windows 8 before but its been a while since flashing and my laptop is up to 8.1 now.
So my questions: Do the fastboot drivers for the X not work properly on 8.1 and if there are new ones where can I get them?
I've already been to the moto site to download the Motorola Device Manager but it still doesn't fix my problem. Without the kernel the phone boots but its all kinds of buggy. Luckily I was able to Nand back to 4.4.2 and everything is stable.If you can help me that would be greatly appreciated... And if not then I'll just have to wait on Sunshine.
If your bootloader is locked how did you change from your stock kernel?
Travisdroidx2 said:
If your bootloader is locked how did you change from your stock kernel?
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That wasn't the answer I was looking for. But if you want to know what I was trying to do look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development/rom-212-44-26-ghostatt-kernel-dump-t2850960
1ad_m12 said:
That wasn't the answer I was looking for. But if you want to know what I was trying to do look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development/rom-212-44-26-ghostatt-kernel-dump-t2850960
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Sorry if that was not the answer you were looking for. I was trying to figure out what you did. Making sure you did not try and downgrade your bootloader. If you need to flash your kernel and your PC won't recognize your device why not use flashify app or similar to flash it without a PC?
Travisdroidx2 said:
Sorry if that was not the answer you were looking for. I was trying to figure out what you did. Making sure you did not try and downgrade your bootloader. If you need to flash your kernel and your PC won't recognize your device why not use flashify app or similar to flash it without a PC?
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I'm pretty sure you can't flash a stock kernel onto a locked bootloader device without using fastboot to do it. I haven't tried it but I'm also not trying to risk it. I was just wondering if the fastboot drivers were compatible with Windows 8.1 is all.
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I'm pretty sure you can't flash a stock kernel onto a locked bootloader device without using fastboot to do it. I haven't tried it but I'm also not trying to risk it. I was just wondering if the fastboot drivers were compatible with Windows 8.1 is all.
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Did you try a simple google search?
http://www.andromods.com/fix-troubleshoot/issue-fastboot-waiting-for-device-windows-81-fixed.html
Travisdroidx2 said:
Did you try a simple google search?
http://www.andromods.com/fix-troubleshoot/issue-fastboot-waiting-for-device-windows-81-fixed.html
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Doesn't work. The drivers from that site does not install.
Sorry, good luck with your search!
Travisdroidx2 said:
Sorry, good luck with your search!
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Thanks for the help anyways
1ad_m12 said:
Thanks for the help anyways
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Post #3 here? Sorry I hate to give up lol
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/problem-usb-driver-windows-8-1-please-t2590053
Travisdroidx2 said:
Post #3 here? Sorry I hate to give up lol
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/problem-usb-driver-windows-8-1-please-t2590053
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I'll have to play around with it some more when I have more time. That link you sent me to looks very promising. Thanks!
Travisdroidx2 said:
Post #3 here? Sorry I hate to give up lol
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/problem-usb-driver-windows-8-1-please-t2590053
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Alright that one worked! Thanks for the help man. Couldn't have done it without you. I swear sometimes I get google-illiterate and start typing in all the wrong key phrases.
Glad you got it working!

[Q] What files I need to root 5.1.1?

Hey guys I just bought a Nexus 6 yesterday and once I got it updated to 5.1.1 LYZ28E, and I'm trying to root my device at first I was going to use cf auto root but I noticed it was for 5.0 only so can someone tell me what files I need exactly and what would be the easiest way to root? Thanks in advance
1. unlock your bootloader with fastboot.
2. fastboot flash twrp recovery.
3. flash the latest supersu in your new recovery
4. reboot with root. yes, thay easy.
simms22 said:
1. unlock your bootloader with fastboot.
2. fastboot flash twrp recovery.
3. flash the latest supersu in your new recovery
4. reboot with root. yes, thay easy.
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I have tried with fastboot using the cmd but it doesnt find the path so can you uploads me the correct files to download thnks
Jiggs82 said:
I have tried with fastboot using the cmd but it doesnt find the path so can you uploads me the correct files to download thnks
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very easy.. using google, search for supersu 2.49 and for twrp recovery n6. they will come right up. the nexus 6 is called shamu.
Jiggs82 said:
I have tried with fastboot using the cmd but it doesnt find the path so can you uploads me the correct files to download thnks
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Download the latest SDK from Google. You need newer ADB and Fastboot files in order to work with a 5.1.1 bootloader.
Make sure all the files are in the same folder as well. I never trusted using environment variables.
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NotATreoFan said:
I never trusted using environment variables.
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What now? That's how a PC works.
danarama said:
What now? That's how a PC works.
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I was referring to setting up ADB and Fastboot so that you can use them from anywhere. I just copy all the files I'm working with into the same folder.
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NotATreoFan said:
Download the latest SDK from Google. You need newer ADB and Fastboot files in order to work with a 5.1.1 bootloader.
Make sure all the files are in the same folder as well. I never trusted using environment variables.
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I downloaded the latest sdk and adb and fastboot 1.4.2 , supersu 2.49 and twrp 2.8.7.1 so what do i do next? btw when u meant all the files in the same folder which files u mean? thanks
NotATreoFan said:
I was referring to setting up ADB and Fastboot so that you can use them from anywhere. I just copy all the files I'm working with into the same folder.
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I know what you're talking about. I just wonder why you don't trust environment variables, because that seems an odd thing to say.
Environment variables are how windows works.
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Jiggs82 said:
I downloaded the latest sdk and adb and fastboot 1.4.2 , supersu 2.49 and twrp 2.8.7.1 so what do i do next? btw when u meant all the files in the same folder which files u mean? thanks
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Dude, have a read about adb and fastboot..it's easy to understand.
I wrote a thread.. Go to general > sticky roll-up thread > adb and fastboot, what is it?
I've put everything you need to know in there.
danarama said:
I know what you're talking about. I just wonder why you don't trust environment variables, because that seems an odd thing to say.
Environment variables are how windows works.
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Dude, have a read about adb and fastboot..it's easy to understand.
I wrote a thread.. Go to general > sticky roll-up thread > adb and fastboot, what is it?
I've put everything you need to know in there.
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Yeah, I'm a weird guy. Had a soft brick once on a M8 because my work laptop decided to forget about a set variable midway through flashing.
No doubt it was a quirk, I'm just playing it 110% safe by not relying on them for flashing.
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danarama said:
I know what you're talking about. I just wonder why you don't trust environment variables, because that seems an odd thing to say.
Environment variables are how windows works.
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Dude, have a read about adb and fastboot..it's easy to understand.
I wrote a thread.. Go to general > sticky roll-up thread > adb and fastboot, what is it?
I've put everything you need to know in there.
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Lol i will, ive rooted phones befpre from non nexuses to the nexus 5 but it was so simple using cf auto root guess i shouldve never updated to 5.1.1 so thats my fault smh and since im using a new laptop that could be the reason to since i have to download everything all over again im just having a hard time finding which is the correct files since theyre are old and new ones posted all over the place lol ill get it done tho just gotta have patience thanks again fo your help tho
Jiggs82 said:
Lol i will, ive rooted phones befpre from non nexuses to the nexus 5 but it was so simple using cf auto root guess i shouldve never updated to 5.1.1 so thats my fault smh and since im using a new laptop that could be the reason to since i have to download everything all over again im just having a hard time finding which is the correct files since theyre are old and new ones posted all over the place lol ill get it done tho just gotta have patience thanks again fo your help tho
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Download rue latest SDK 23 then go through the installer to get the platform-tools.
Jiggs82 said:
Lol i will, ive rooted phones befpre from non nexuses to the nexus 5 but it was so simple using cf auto root guess i shouldve never updated to 5.1.1 so thats my fault smh and since im using a new laptop that could be the reason to since i have to download everything all over again im just having a hard time finding which is the correct files since theyre are old and new ones posted all over the place lol ill get it done tho just gotta have patience thanks again fo your help tho
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you root the n6 exactly the same way you root a nexus 5, or any nexus.
NotATreoFan said:
Yeah, I'm a weird guy. Had a soft brick once on a M8 because my work laptop decided to forget about a set variable midway through flashing.
No doubt it was a quirk, I'm just playing it 110% safe by not relying on them for flashing.
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It doesn't really make sense.. If fastboot or adb are running, "losing" an environment variable would make no difference. ...and if they were lost between commands,.the next command simply wouldn't run so couldn't cause a brick either.
I've been rooting and and flashing for over 5 years and an IT technician for over 10 years and I've never heard or imagined of any such thing. Whatever caused your brick, I can say with say with confidence that it was nothing to do with environment variables.. Windows runs on environment variables. In fact when you go to run and type "cmd", that only works because of environment variables. There is no way to avoid them.
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NotATreoFan said:
Download the latest SDK from Google. You need newer ADB and Fastboot files in order to work with a 5.1.1 bootloader.
Make sure all the files are in the same folder as well. I never trusted using environment variables.
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Ummmmmm, if you don't ajsust your Environmental Variables, your commands in command prompt will not work, unless you have a computer I know nothing about
USMC retired said:
Ummmmmm, if you don't ajsust your Environmental Variables, your commands in command prompt will not work, unless you have a computer I know nothing about [emoji14]
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I have a work laptop running Windows 7 that is so bloated they've managed to make it run worse than XP on a 286.
On my home machine it all runs perfect.
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Ummmmmm, if you don't ajsust your Environmental Variables, your commands in command prompt will not work, unless you have a computer I know nothing about
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They will work if you cd to or open cmd in the dir that adb or fastboot is in.
Nice
danarama said:
They will work if you cd to or open cmd in the dir that adb or fastboot is in.
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I wasn't aware of that, I've always just done the EV thing as a force of habit more than anything else.
USMC retired said:
I wasn't aware of that, I've always just done the EV thing as a force of habit more than anything else.
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Yes it's the best way.
Yeah
danarama said:
Yes it's the best way.
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I tried it and sweet, says your in the UK, you must be a night owl

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