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Use topaz as bluetooth headset / use on-board mic

I have searched everywhere and can't seem to find a answer to this...
I use a phone cradle in the car, using my topaz as my music player, connecting my phone to my car stereo with a male-male 3.5mm audio jack.
I want to be able to steam music via bluetooth from any other compatible phone / device to my phone, meaning I don't have to trail cables everywhere when a passenger wants to play something.
I would have thought this to be a simple-ish thing to setup but cannot find any information on how to do it. Is it even possible, and where would I start if it is?
I also want to use my on-board mic when the headset is plugged so I can have call audio over car speakers, although iv been led to believe this isn't possible because of hardware reasons, can anybody clarify that?
Apologies if this is in the wrong forum, not really sure where it should have gone.

If I understand you correctly, you want to stream music TO your phone over BT from another device? Not possible.
For hearing call over speakers and using mic, you need to get the M-F w/built in mic.

I too don't think it will be possible to stream music from another device to your phone except if you transfer the entire music mp3 file via bluetooth to your device and then play it from there.
Regarding the possibility of using the device's microphone whilst using the car speakers for sound, again I'm afraid I don't think this is possible. I have a similar set-up to you in that my TD2 is connected to an FM transmitter which also charges my TD2 at the same time in a nice cradle. The TD2 thinks it is connected to a headset when cradled. The microphone is inactive in this state which is a shame as it would have made a good hands free system if it were to be active....

mitsi said:
I too don't think it will be possible to stream music from another device to your phone except if you transfer the entire music mp3 file via bluetooth to your device and then play it from there.
Regarding the possibility of using the device's microphone whilst using the car speakers for sound, again I'm afraid I don't think this is possible. I have a similar set-up to you in that my TD2 is connected to an FM transmitter which also charges my TD2 at the same time in a nice cradle. The TD2 thinks it is connected to a headset when cradled. The microphone is inactive in this state which is a shame as it would have made a good hands free system if it were to be active....
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I use this set up as well. You just need the cable with the built in mic.
My RF Transmitter has a male plug, So I found the HTC cable that has the HTC USB to Female with built in mic. This is my basic set up.

Bruce Inman said:
I use this set up as well. You just need the cable with the built in mic.
My RF Transmitter has a male plug, So I found the HTC cable that has the HTC USB to Female with built in mic. This is my basic set up.
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That set up looks great Bruce, but I don't want to be fiddling about plugging in so many cables with so many wires visible. Brodit does something similar too, all in a cradle with an extended wire so you would be able to hide all the cables....

2 BT Devices at once???

I have bluetooth in my SUV (Mopar's uConnect Dodge Nitro 2008), and I am looking into getting a bluetooth device like this (Link or Link) and I was wondering if the hero will connect to both the audio gateway and car kit? I know the iPhone and iPod(3G) will do this so I'm thinking there is hope for the hero.
Does anyone have either of these devices or something similar, any cheap places?
Thanks!!!

I tried this in my 08 G37 since the built in OEM BT does not do A2DP, this was on the original 1.5 ROM using Kensington A2DP adapter with Remote. I could get both to pair and connect but the audio would not work on phone calls once the music was playing. I need to give it a try with the 2.1 software but I am not too optimistic since the 2.1 implementation is buggy as well. I ended up getting a $2 HTC adapter/splitter that connects both audio and charger with one connector. I think you would still have to connect the charger when using BT since it wears the battery down so this is not much different.
This is the adapter I have, the cool thing about this one is that you can stick the remote anywhere in the car.
Kensington LiquidAUX Bluetooth Car Kit with Remote for Music Phones (this is actually a hands free system as well so maybe it was taking over the call audio even with handsfree profile disabled in settings)

I have an Aux jack for my car stereo, so I just run a 3.5mm male-to-male cable for audio. I use my BT for hands-free calling. If I'm using my phone for music, it's plugged in anyway, so one more cable isn't going to hurt anything.

subcypher said:
I have an Aux jack for my car stereo, so I just run a 3.5mm male-to-male cable for audio. I use my BT for hands-free calling. If I'm using my phone for music, it's plugged in anyway, so one more cable isn't going to hurt anything.
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True... that's what I've been doing

subcypher said:
3.5mm male-to-male cable for audio.
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3.5mm is icky. how can you stand to listen to that?

thedudejdog said:
3.5mm is icky. how can you stand to listen to that?
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wtf are you talking about? that's a direct line out from the sound card on the phone? blue-tooth would be the lower quality audio. wire>wireless ALWAYS no if ands or buts. copper is a million times better conductor than air.

ipfreelytech said:
wtf are you talking about? that's a direct line out from the sound card on the phone? blue-tooth would be the lower quality audio. wire>wireless ALWAYS no if ands or buts. copper is a million times better conductor than air.
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Actually BT audio is digital and 3.5mm is analog. Digital is better than analog any day of the week. Plus with it being digital it doesn't really matter that it is wireless, as long as you are within proper range the transferred 1s & 0s are identical wired or wireless.
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RocStar629 said:
Actually BT audio is digital and 3.5mm is analog. Digital is better than analog any day of the week. Plus with it being digital it doesn't really matter that it is wireless, as long as you are within proper range the transferred 1s & 0s are identical wired or wireless.
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Digital is not always better plus it ends up analog in the end. With A2DP you are adding a second variable encode/decode to the mix, this process in case of already compressed MP3s or streaming audio degrades the original quality a second time. The only reason you would not notice is because of crappy audio equipment or ears

Audio over Bluetooth still does NOT compare to wired.
Read some reviews sometimes. All of the current BT headsets do not come anywhere close to audio transmitted over a wire.

ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD
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So what was the verdict on 2 BT devices at once? In my situation I'd be looking at having it connected to my car via Ford's Sync system, as well as a BT OBD-II adapter like this:
www . plxkiwi . com/kiwibluetooth/buynow_torque.html

maxpower47 said:
So what was the verdict on 2 BT devices at once? In my situation I'd be looking at having it connected to my car via Ford's Sync system, as well as a BT OBD-II adapter like this:
www . plxkiwi . com/kiwibluetooth/buynow_torque.html
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Haha... I'm too chicken to waste money on it. No idea! I have less than a year left with this phone so I'm just going to wait.

Advice. Best way to get music to the car?

I'm just curious what would be the best way to get all of the new music on my Captivate onto my car speakers when driving. I have built in bluetooth in the car and would love if there is a way to use a software solution to stream the music. If that's not possible I'm a bit lost on what the preferred method would be. Thanks in advance for any assistance!
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Here's what I found with a quick google search:
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13746_7-10460099-48.html
Scroll down to the bluetooth section and there is a "setup" portion

If your BT stereo supports A2DP, then just stream from the Cappy to the radio. I do that and it sounds great. I also have a 3.5mm jack on the front, but that is an analog signal and the difference in sound quality, while slight, is noticeable. My car radio links automatically with my phone when I get in (so long as BT is enabled on the phone) and both hands-free and BT audio profiles are connected. All I have to do is start the music player on the phone and the radio switches input automatically. It also switches to phone profile and pauses the music player when a call comes in.

Thanks for both of the responses.
I'll have to check the link in a minute and I'll have to research about my BT connection supporting A2DP as well, but I appreciate the options. Hopefully one will work.
I'm really hoping the A2DP option works, that would be ideal for me, but it is a VW factory BT option that's on the car, so I'm not sure how sophisticated it is.
I'll try to remember to get back here with a post, in the event someone in the future stumbles on this thread looking for the same advice.

Auxiliary cable?
Posted from a phone

nooomoto said:
Auxiliary cable?
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I have a Captivate running a custom ROM with a custom Kernel.
There had been some grumblings about the speaker port not working correctly for quite a while, but I think they have now resolved it.
I wasn't sure if this was going to be an issue, so I was hoping for something along the lines of a BT connection solution.
Unfortunately, I just read the following piece of garbage info from a different site:
Audio streaming is NOT Supported on 2010 Passat, EOS, Tiguan, CC, Jetta TDI sedan or Touareg
Looks like Aux. cable for me.

evoic said:
Unfortunately, I just read the following piece of garbage info from a different site:
Audio streaming is NOT Supported on 2010 Passat, EOS, Tiguan, CC, Jetta TDI sedan or Touareg
Looks like Aux. cable for me.
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Man, that's too bad. You'd think a 2010 vehicle would be up to date with the tech. I know some older cars were hands-free profile only because A2DP was not widespread, but a 2010 not having it is just silly. My radio is an aftermarket Sony I bought in 2009 and it not only supports music streamin via BT and has a 3.5mm AUX input, it has a USB port that I can put a thumbdrive with music in and a port in the back for an iPod (if I was stupid enough to own one and pay for the optional cable) and it also has HD radio. VW is usually further forward than most imports. Oh well, at least you can do the cable thing. Get a quality one, some cheapies are known to short contacts and cause problems.

I use a AUX input in my car and it works pretty well. The only complaint I really have is the sound is at a lot lower volume than radio and mini-usb port.

vafifty4 said:
I use a AUX input in my car and it works pretty well. The only complaint I really have is the sound is at a lot lower volume than radio and mini-usb port.
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Not to point out the obvious, but you do realize that the AUX port is multi-volumed.....right?
You turn up the volume on your handset AND you turn up the volume on your car stereo.
From what I've read, it appears you should turn your "media volume" up to 50-80% and leave it there, then use your car stereo volume button to alter the overall volume.
If it's still not loud enough from there, either you have a short or something is up with your output.
Your ears should be bleeding.

evoic said:
Not to point out the obvious, but you do realize that the AUX port is multi-volumed.....right?
You turn up the volume on your handset AND you turn up the volume on your car stereo.
From what I've read, it appears you should turn your "media volume" up to 50-80% and leave it there, then use your car stereo volume button to alter the overall volume.
If it's still not loud enough from there, either you have a short or something is up with your output.
Your ears should be bleeding.
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Yea, I turn the volume up all the way on my phone whenever I plug it in. It was the same way when I used my iPod Touch.
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Audio Out via USB, alternative solutions?

Hi,
I got used to Samsungs CarDock mode which allowed to charge the phone and play music through USB port directly to my car stereo (no BT,:crying: ). I used the iBolt XProDock ( here ) which is amazing.
Now I have the M8 and figured out that analog output is not on board. So I am looking for a solution:
a) A BT-receiver for my car audio, optimally charged with max 5.0 V via USB plug)
b) Any digital to analog converter (dac?), but not too much gadgets to be supplied with power and cables
c) A second earphone-cable ?
d) A software solution to get analog sound from USB?
Any suggestions?

http://www.accessorypower.com/gogroove-flexsmart-x3-p-2410.html
BT FM Transmitter it also charges phones at 1A

If you have an AUX input, get a stereoclip.. Uses APT-x codec for cd+ quality sound. Lasts about 6 hours on a charge.
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Bluetooth...qid=1396896640&sr=8-1&keywords=htc+stereoclip

APT-X Bluetooth codec actually sounds better than USB analog audio output. No engine noise or light clicks/background noise going on.
And it's a much higher quality than normal Bluetooth.
BUT, some apps are not yet APT-X friendly.
Utter being one of them if I remember correct.

Taknarosh said:
http://www.accessorypower.com/gogroove-flexsmart-x3-p-2410.html
BT FM Transmitter it also charges phones at 1A
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Looks cool, but needs a car power outlet which I don't want to block with this gadget. Since I use a plantronics BT-heaset for calls no handsfree functionality is required. But thnx for this!

regalpimpin said:
If you have an AUX input, get a stereoclip.. Uses APT-x codec for cd+ quality sound. Lasts about 6 hours on a charge.
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Bluetooth...qid=1396896640&sr=8-1&keywords=htc+stereoclip
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Found that already, but some people seem to have issues with that. Must check myself, thnx

CZ Eddie said:
APT-X Bluetooth codec actually sounds better than USB analog audio output. No engine noise or light clicks/background noise going on.
And it's a much higher quality than normal Bluetooth.
BUT, some apps are not yet APT-X friendly.
Utter being one of them if I remember correct.
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Sorry, how could that affect the idea of APT-X in my car? The One M8 works with APT-X, and when the BT-receiver also does, shouldn't any music player work fine? I use Player Pro, and this app works fine over regular BT. Is there a difference with APT-X?

charly-whiskey said:
Sorry, how could that affect the idea of APT-X in my car? The One M8 works with APT-X, and when the BT-receiver also does, shouldn't any music player work fine? I use Player Pro, and this app works fine over regular BT. Is there a difference with APT-X?
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Like I said, "some apps".
Yes, APT-X is handled differently somehow.
All music players I've tried have worked just fine though.
I think it's more "voice controlled" bluetooth related apps that sometimes have problems.

CZ Eddie said:
Like I said, "some apps".
Yes, APT-X is handled differently somehow.
All music players I've tried have worked just fine though.
I think it's more "voice controlled" bluetooth related apps that sometimes have problems.
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ok, nothing that botheres me.
I will try the BT-Solution.
Update 15.04.2014:
I bought a tiny BT-Receiver / (even with transmitter, which I don't need), here.
Works like a charme. Thnx for your advice!

Apt-x
APT-X cannot be used with just any device. In order to get full potential from apt-X you need to have AAC audio files which the HTC one m8 support and will give you much better sound then mp3. Also APT-X can only be used if the speakers support apt-X as well as the phone. If your phone supports apt-X but your speaker or stereo does not then the APT-X will not work. There are only a handful of speakers and stereos that support APT-X. But like I said APT-X supports audio at a higher bit-rate, then standard Bluetooth, and higher then a docked iPod. For good audio performance you need both a phone/player, and speaker/stereo that support APT-X on both ends, and you might want to load some songs from a CD in AAC format onto your computer to give you that CD quality sound, or buy some songs from HDtracks.com , to play using APT-X. But also the HTC one M8 should have gotten the lollipop 5.1 update which supports usb audio/host. So I would check and see if you have lollipop 5.1

Usb type c audio jack

Hi I was listening to my music and I was impressed but just wanted that bit more volume I don't want to root ect (I cannot believe I'm saying that)
Has anyone tried a usb dongle which ships with most phones without headphone jack as I've heard some have a dac built in and sound much louder ect
Suppose another question is would it even work on out phone as we already have a headphone jack will our phone evem recognise music through the usb type c adapter?
Thanks

you can get external DAC's that use the usb out to get direct digital audio, bypassing the A/D D/A conversion.
I have a pair of headphones (AKG N90Q) that have built in DAC. they can grab audio direct from the usb output.

brockyneo said:
Hi I was listening to my music and I was impressed but just wanted that bit more volume I don't want to root ect (I cannot believe I'm saying that)
Has anyone tried a usb dongle which ships with most phones without headphone jack as I've heard some have a dac built in and sound much louder ect
Suppose another question is would it even work on out phone as we already have a headphone jack will our phone evem recognise music through the usb type c adapter?
Thanks
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I use Sony MDR 1ADAC with usb C sounds amazing!

Thanks gonna take a look at some I'm no audiophile but just nice to have that better sound when you want it

marctronixx said:
you can get external DAC's that use the usb out to get direct digital audio, bypassing the A/D D/A conversion.
I have a pair of headphones (AKG N90Q) that have built in DAC. they can grab audio direct from the usb output.
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bunglebp said:
I use Sony MDR 1ADAC with usb C sounds amazing!
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Right just tried some gaming headphones which have a dac and I've tried them both on the note 8 and the ps4 pro remote and both sound quiet and lacking volume
But when I plug them into the tv the quadruple in volume does this mean that the note 8 and ps4 are just not as loud even tho I'm using the dac from the headphones
Thanks