There seems to be a bit of controversy swirling around the whole "lag and choppiness" issue on the Tab S. Some are experiencing it to the extremes while the majority are having no problems at all. In addition it seems that the 8.4 is having the worst of this. My guess is that certain 8.4 models made it into the wild with defective parts. While we got about 1/3 reporting issues here in a poll, the negative response rate on retailer websites is far lower. That makes sense as those experiencing trouble are more likely to come here looking for solutions.
So let's try this. If your Tab S is experiencing significant lag, choppiness or scrolling stutter, video tape it and post it here. Please be specific as to the actions taken and websites visited and launcher used. Please also close all other apps and clear memory before completing your tests. I will repeat your test using my 10.5 model and let's compare. Also note if javascript is enabled or disabled in your test. Please also list where and when you purchased your tab.
Also if you have a Tab S 8.4 and you are NOT experiencing the issues you see in a video, please post your results as well.
HOW TO POST YOUTUBE VIDEO HERE:
Some are confused as to posting YouTube videos in this forum. It's simple. Just click the little YouTube button at the top and place ONLY THE YOUTUBE NUMBER NOT THE ENTIRE LINK between the tags.
Huh. 122 views and no entries? I thought we would get a lot of activity here considering how many individuals have posted regarding lag and stutter issues. There is no wrong or right here. I do not doubt those who say they experienced these problems. I'd just like to test it against a tablet that is not experiencing these issues for comparative purposes.
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Huh. 122 views and no entries? I thought we would get a lot of activity here considering how many individuals have posted regarding lag and stutter issues. There is no wrong or right here. I do not doubt those who say they experienced these problems. I'd just like to test it against a tablet that is not experiencing these issues for comparative purposes.
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Well, can't say for all the others but I'm at work right know. Will try to post something if I see any lags when I'm at home.
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Well, can't say for all the others but I'm at work right know. Will try to post something if I see any lags when I'm at home.
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Ok, thanks very much
Here is some other interesting news. There have been reports of individuals experiencing warping of the backs of their Tab S and there was a concern if heat was causing this. Samsung has just announced that the problem is not heat but defective backs. So we know there is some basis to the idea that defective parts have made it into the field on the Tab S. Some bum GPU's maybe?
Could you please give a link of Samsung announcement about the issue ?
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Could you please give a link of Samsung announcement about the issue ?
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Sure. Here it is:
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-says-overheating-not-blame-warped-galaxy-tab-s-back-covers
"Contrary to certain media reports, the slight disfiguration that has formed on the rear surface of the Galaxy Tab S has been attributed to a limited number of defective back covers, which has no relation to the overheating of the application processor or the material used for the back cover. We would like to assure our customers that we have already resolved the issue. We ask affected customers to please contact their nearest Samsung Electronics customer service center."
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Thanks stamatis.
Hmmm, I'm beginning to question how pervasive this lag and stutter issue is. 604 views and no one has posted a video.
Ok here's a brand new test. To my eyes I see no lag or stutter. Everything seems as smooth as on my i5 ultrabook. Smoother actually. Others may see lag and stutter in this video. Perception is reality. What we are looking for is significant lag or stutter which would lessen your enjoyment of the tablet. Your feedback is appreciated.
I didn't see any..... and I never notice any on my 8.4 Tab S as well.
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I didn't see any..... and I never notice any on my 8.4 Tab S as well.
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Thank you. Yes I agree. I do not see any lag or stutter either, but others who have viewed a video of mine just like this say that yes, they can see it. Sort of mystifies me as my vision is not bad. Either way I believe what they are seeing is very subtle and would not be noticeable or bothersome to the average consumer.
That's why I was hoping for some videos from those claiming to have real serious issues, just to see what they are seeing and figure out why their device is performing so much worse than mine.
In another thread a couple members are having issues with the white on their screens appearing yellow when viewed directly and turning back to white when tilted slightly. Again, this is not normal for an amoled screen this advanced. It should be white directly on and maybe slightly pink at an angle. One of the members who has complained of stutter and lag also has this yellow screen issue. Maybe there is a link and we have a bad batch of screens? Don't know, trying to figure it out.
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In another thread a couple members are having issues with the white on their screens appearing yellow when viewed directly and turning back to white when tilted slightly. Again, this is not normal for an amoled screen this advanced. It should be white directly on and maybe slightly pink at an angle. One of the members who has complained of stutter and lag also has this yellow screen issue. Maybe there is a link and we have a bad batch of screens? Don't know, trying to figure it out.
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i highly doubt my GS3, GS4, GS5 and Tab S all had defective screens.
that's AMOLED tech. straight on it has more of a colored hue than when viewed at an angle. it's sort of the opposite of LCD which looks great head on, but sometimes at an angle can have an off-colored hue to it.
Mine is pure white..... Maybe I am just blind. Lol.
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i highly doubt my GS3, GS4, GS5 and Tab S all had defective screens.
that's AMOLED tech. straight on it has more of a colored hue than when viewed at an angle. it's sort of the opposite of LCD which looks great head on, but sometimes at an angle can have an off-colored hue to it.
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Don't know what to tell you. The white on my screen is pure white with no hue whatsoever. If I hold the tablet at a slight angle it appears just a bit pinkish but absolute sheet of paper white straight on. I owned a Tab Pro and the screen looked completely washed out side by side with my Tab S. Colors are better, whites are whiter and blacks are blacker. No contest.
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Mine is pure white..... Maybe I am just blind. Lol.
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Mine too brother. When people talk about the screen being yellow or blue straight on I honestly have no idea what they are talking about. My best guess is that those seeing yellow have their color calibration set too warm and those seeing blue have it set too cold? Dunno but mine is without a doubt white.
My Galaxy Nexus had a more of a bluer, colder screen than my Tab S. The whites on my Tab S are pure white which is nice.
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My Galaxy Nexus had a more of a bluer, colder screen than my Tab S. The whites on my Tab S are pure white which is nice.
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Yes, thank you.
About whiteness, I did a test along with Note 3 and Note 8, and the test units I used AMOLED movie mode.
All units used Chrome and open Google.com with desktop view.
10.5 model white is "normal" while 8.4 unit is a bit warm.
It appears Tab S in different BestBuy had same results.
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About whiteness, I did a test along with Note 3 and Note 8, and the test units I used AMOLED movie mode.
All units used Chrome and open Google.com with desktop view.
10.5 model white is "normal" while 8.4 unit is a bit warm.
It appears Tab S in different BestBuy had same results.
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Thanks of doing this. Too small of a test sample to draw broad meaning but there is an argument for making the 8.4 screen warmer as it is more likely to be purchased by users who intend to read books while the 10.5 model is targeted more at the business user where a cleaner white would be appreciated? Just throwing out ideas here but not implausible.
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Hi there,
The Galaxy Note is my first phone with a LED screen, I had a Desire HD before.
Since I got my Galaxy Note, the screen seems a bit yellowish to me.
When you tilt it a little bit to the side, you see the while colors becomes more white, but when you tilt it back, so the screen is right in front of you, then the white colors looks a bit yellowish again.
Is this normal for a LED screen?
I don't like the yellowish tint at all, but for the rest the screen looks amazing.
Thanks for your answers
Hmm I don't really notice any sort of yellow tint on my screen but then again I'm not the most color observant person . What you can try is go int settings==>display==>screen mode and change it from standard to dynamic or movie. I have it on dynamic and love it.
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Hmm I don't really notice any sort of yellow tint on my screen but then again I'm not the most color observant person . What you can try is go int settings==>display==>screen mode and change it from standard to dynamic or movie. I have it on dynamic and love it.
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Yea I already tried dynamic mode, it makes the yellowish tint a little less, but it's still there.
You can notice it by yourself by tilting the phone.
Just put something on your screen that has a white color, and watch the screen from the side, it looks much nicer then.
Ohyea, by the way.
You can also notice the yellowish very good if you put the screen mode on movie
Just got my Galaxy Note N7000 today and noticed the same issue on mine. Tilting the screen slightly makes the whites look pure white while in its normal position the screen looks kinda yellow. I am not being able to understand if this is a faulty set or not
SAMOLED screens are supposed to have superior viewing angles, it is believed that the Oleophobic coating is causing the green/blue/yellow tinting that you see when the phone is tilted ( well in your case its a direct view ) my first screen had absolutely no color shift even at the most extreme angles, the new one I have now has a blue tint unless directly viewed.
The norm is supposed to have great viewing angles and only shift in really extreme and non usable angles.
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SAMOLED screens are supposed to have superior viewing angles, it is believed that the Oleophobic coating is causing the green/blue/yellow tinting that you see when the phone is tilted ( well in your case its a direct view ) my first screen had absolutely no color shift even at the most extreme angles, the new one I have now has a blue tint unless directly viewed.
The norm is supposed to have great viewing angles and only shift in really extreme and non usable angles.
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So what you are saying here is that we should use our phone while we keep it tilted? LOL
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So what you are saying here is that we should use our phone while we keep it tilted? LOL
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The norm is supposed to have great viewing angles and only shift in really extreme and non usable angles.
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How hard is that to understand?
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How hard is that to understand?
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Well, you don't have to be upset like that.
What I'm trying to say is that if you tilt the phone, it has great colors.
But when you look straight onto the screen, you see a yellowish screen.
Your conclusion is that the viewing angle are very good, and only shift in really extreme and non usable angles.
Looking straight onto the screen should not be a non usable angle.
And Im not the only one who's saying it, but when you tilt the phone, the colors looks much nicer.
Im not upset, I just found it amusing why it was not understood right off the bat.
Have your screen/phone replaced, thats clearly a quality control issue.
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Im not upset, I just found it amusing why it was not understood right off the bat.
Have your screen/phone replaced, thats clearly a quality control issue.
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But I just got it new, and more people are complaining about it (also some outside xda).
So I am wondering if it worths it to replace it, because it can happen again.
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But I just got it new, and more people are complaining about it (also some outside xda).
So I am wondering if it worths it to replace it, because it can happen again.
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Thats something only you can decide, IMHO thats a hardware defect.
Another person posted the same thing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1440582
If you google for Galaxy Note + green tint you'ed get a few results including this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1335161
Some users report is as normal and accept it as normal, If its normal Im wondering why theres a green and blue tint difference and a few screens dont even have any tinting even at extreme angles. Like the first one I got (but had very visible horizontal lines )
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Thats something only you can decide, IMHO thats a hardware defect.
Another person posted the same thing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1440582
If you google for Galaxy Note + green tint you'ed get a few results including this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1335161
Some users report is as normal and accept it as normal, If its normal Im wondering why theres a green and blue tint difference and a few screens dont even have any tinting even at extreme angles. Like the first one I got (but had very visible horizontal lines )
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Interesting.
Actually I'm not a whiner, so I can live with the tint for 2 years, but still...
If I will be in the center of my city, I will ask the phone store what they think, and what they will do to solve it.
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Interesting.
Actually I'm not a whiner, so I can live with the tint for 2 years, but still...
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All upto you, I how ever prefer to enjoy my device as defect free as possible. Especially for this device that boasts a 'great screen' and the high price tag.
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All upto you, I how ever prefer to enjoy my device as defect free as possible. Especially for this device that boasts a 'great screen' and the high price tag.
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True.
But I don't expect a device to be defect when it is just new.
Still there are also some people that say it is normal.
I also got a friend, he's a designer, and works with photoshop etc, and colors are very important to him.
I also told him about this issue, he said it happens more with screen, and it is seen as normal for these screens where it appears with.
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True.
But I don't expect a device to be defect when it is just new.
Still there are also some people that say it is normal.
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This is the reason why quality control is so random with samsung, people accepting defects as normal but dont let my expectations be yours as long as your happy with the device thats what is important.
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I also got a friend, he's a designer, and works with photoshop etc, and colors are very important to him.
I also told him about this issue, he said it happens more with screen, and it is seen as normal for these screens where it appears with.
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He does have a point normally a screen comes in warm,cool and neutral depending on the factory calibration. These things can be normal as long as the user accepts them to be.
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This is the reason why quality control is so random with samsung, people accepting defects as normal but dont let my expectations be yours as long as your happy with the device thats what is important.
He does have a point normally a screen comes in warm,cool and neutral depending on the factory calibration. These things can be normal as long as the user accepts them to be.
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Clear enough
I'll see what I will do then
Thanks for your great answers!
No problem, Keep us posted on whatever you decide.
I've had four blue Galaxy Notes and one white and they all exhibit varying degrees of tint with some less noticeable than others. Some have a more warmish yellow tint while others are cooler with more of a blue tint. It was the same way on the Galaxy S2. The best you can hope for in getting a replacement is one that has a tint that's less noticeable or if you prefer a cooler tint to the warmer tint.
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I've had four blue Galaxy Notes and one white and they all exhibit varying degrees of tint with some less noticeable than others. Some have a more warmish yellow tint while others are cooler with more of a blue tint. It was the same way on the Galaxy S2. The best you can hope for in getting a replacement is one that has a tint that's less noticeable or if you prefer a cooler tint to the warmer tint.
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Yea well, I will live with it for now, because I love it too much to loose it, hehe.
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Hey guys!
Its been a while since I've posted here on XDA, since I mostly use these forums for finding information. But I need your help. I've ordered a Nexus 6 through the Motorola Store, and I've noticed that the phone that I got has some pretty noticeable screen banding, even with a white page you can see lines going straight down the center of the display. Is this common? Should I send it back to Motorola? How is there RMA process, like Googles basically hassle free? Thanks for all your help.
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Hey guys!
Its been a while since I've posted here on XDA, since I mostly use these forums for finding information. But I need your help. I've ordered a Nexus 6 through the Motorola Store, and I've noticed that the phone that I got has some pretty noticeable screen banding, even with a white page you can see lines going straight down the center of the display. Is this common? Should I send it back to Motorola? How is there RMA process, like Googles basically hassle free? Thanks for all your help.
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It's kind of "normal". Read the thread related with "yellow tint", there are plenty of examples in that thread.
I say "normal" because it should not happen, but there almost 0 perfect AMOLED screens. Depending how bad it's your banding you should RMA or not... or go for another phone XD
Horizontal bands or maybe just weird uneven tinting
I'm not sure if I should RMA this one or not, because at least it doesn't have the really obvious pinkish tint as noticeably as others, but the horizontal regions you can see are kind of annoying on gray backgrounds and I can even see them on white backgrounds when scrolling (e.g. in gmail).
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/28717002/n6_screen.jpg
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I'm not sure if I should RMA this one or not, because at least it doesn't have the really obvious pinkish tint as noticeably as others, but the horizontal regions you can see are kind of annoying on gray backgrounds and I can even see them on white backgrounds when scrolling (e.g. in gmail).
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/28717002/n6_screen.jpg
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I don't know how annoying it is in the apps for you, I have something similar that I although just see it in bright backgrounds (grey white) but just a line in the top. I don't think it's a reason to RMA, seeing the other problems people have (you could RMA for your "issue" and in your new device get even worst problems). Just don't pay attention and if in further updates gets more annoying RMA it.
But I have to say that I still don't see a flawless N6 screen. Maybe it could be solved in the future with kernel tweaks, or maybe that`s why Google it's changing the palette color for material design in 5.1
Just got a note 8 today, it has panel bleed on the top left and bottom right, as well as a little bit above the front camera. It's very annoying. A case covers it up, but I really dislike cases, especially on a phone this gorgeous. But apparently, this is a common problem. Is there a chance if I exchange it I can get one without the bleed?
Mine has no bleeding.
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Mine has no bleeding.
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Which color is it? I heard black may have more issues than the others.
Mine is purple and it doesn't have any bleeding.
Black. no bleeding.
Blue, no bleeding
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Black no bleeding
black no bleeding
Black, proud and beautiful.
Black and no bleeding
Above the front camera?
I think its not actually bleeding. It's light refracted through the glass all the way to the edge of it and then projected out of the glass's edge to the frame of the phone where it becomes visible (kinda like optical fiber does).
To check, try removing any bright visual elements (white text, icons, parts of the wallpaper alligned to the spot where you see the bleed. On top it's quite hard as you have notifications and status icons, but elsewhere should not be an issue.
At least that's what I saw on my black N8 but now my UAG case covers the edge (I was usigh dark wallpaper with white icons).
Gold .. no bleeding
Gold... N950F (international version)
No problems here
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Which color is it? I heard black may have more issues than the others.
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Deep Sea Blue
I just received my note 8 F 128 GB midnight black, and, it is flawless, after reading posts for more than 2 months I was paranoid about all the issues that some people reported, but I found zero problems, no lag, no freezing, no apps crashing, no excessive batt drain, no heating, no stutters, no screen tint, no light bleed, no screen/cristal smears, no missalignments, no crashing, etc
Black, No bleed
Mine is perfect. No bleeding from anywhere. Nice and quick and no overheating issues to report at all.
I went to exchange mine after reading all these responses, and ended up getting one with worse bleed
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Just got a note 8 today, it has panel bleed on the top left and bottom right, as well as a little bit above the front camera. It's very annoying. A case covers it up, but I really dislike cases, especially on a phone this gorgeous. But apparently, this is a common problem. Is there a chance if I exchange it I can get one without the bleed?
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Untrue. Reference such a comment please. Thanks.
Zero problems with mine. I also own the iPhone 8 plus and in EVERY way possible I prefer the Note 8 week days and twice on Sundays. I think its the second mobile I have owned since 1989 that I am totally happy with. What else compares?
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I just received my note 8 F 128 GB midnight black, and, it is flawless, after reading posts for more than 2 months I was paranoid about all the issues that some people reported, but I found zero problems, no lag, no freezing, no apps crashing, no excessive batt drain, no heating, no stutters, no screen tint, no light bleed, no screen/cristal smears, no missalignments, no crashing, etc
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You actually took what you read here to heart to the point you avoided purchasing the Note 8 for months? You cant be serious?
I find forums a mixed blessing. If you read about any purchase on a forum it will contain mainly moans and groans, its human nature. If I took seriously all I read on the forums I belong to I would own very little indeed.
Ryland
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Untrue. Reference such a comment please. Thanks.
Zero problems with mine. I also own the iPhone 8 plus and in EVERY way possible I prefer the Note 8 week days and twice on Sundays. I think its the second mobile I have owned since 1989 that I am totally happy with. What else compares?
Ryland
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-8/help/light-bleed-t3670247
Anyway, this one actually isn't as bad. I thought it was because all 4 corners had it, but its much less bright at night I couldn't notice it.
I have in the past used Note 1 then upgraded to Galazy S4 and now Note 9. When I tried all these devices in store before buying. Their screens appeared to be excellent. But once I bought them and used them for a few days I slowly started to see issues with screens. The note 1 I had slowly developed this redness on right edge of the phone over time visible only on grey background under low brightness. I got it replaced 3 times but then gave up. After that when I switched to S4 it had this reddish top and greenish bottom visible only on low brightness and white or light grey background. I got it replaced once and again got a similar screen with the same issue plus overall slightly yellowish tint on the whole screen. So once again I gave up and was using the same device from past 5.8 years. Now when I tried the Note 9 in stores i just loved the screen and ordered it. Now after using it for a few days I find on light backgrounds that the screen is slightly brighter at the bottom than the top. In fact it's like it's whiter at the bottom than at the top. I was thinking are there amoled screens which have uniform whiteness/brightness across the screen. In all other aspects the screen is perfect to me but this issue once I know it's there is somewhat annoying to me. How is your screen ?
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I have in the past used Note 1 then upgraded to Galazy S4 and now Note 9. When I tried all these devices in store before buying. Their screens appeared to be excellent. But once I bought them and used them for a few days I slowly started to see issues with screens. The note 1 I had slowly developed this redness on right edge of the phone over time visible only on grey background under low brightness. I got it replaced 3 times but then gave up. After that when I switched to S4 it had this reddish top and greenish bottom visible only on low brightness and white or light grey background. I got it replaced once and again got a similar screen with the same issue plus overall slightly yellowish tint on the whole screen. So once again I gave up and was using the same device from past 5.8 years. Now when I tried the Note 9 in stores i just loved the screen and ordered it. Now after using it for a few days I find on light backgrounds that the screen is slightly brighter at the bottom than the top. In fact it's like it's whiter at the bottom than at the top. I was thinking are there amoled screens which have uniform whiteness/brightness across the screen. In all other aspects the screen is perfect to me but this issue once I know it's there is somewhat annoying to me. How is your screen ?
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dont think they had oled on the note 1 or s4 yet. but i can assure you that since Samsung made OLED, these screens are the best out there. and to tell you the truth, any 2018 screen would trump what you may have experienced in the past.
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dont think they had oled on the note 1 or s4 yet. but i can assure you that since Samsung made OLED, these screens are the best out there. and to tell you the truth, any 2018 screen would trump what you may have experienced in the past.
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The note 1 and s4 both had super amoled screens. The screen on note 9 is certainly much better but not perfect as I have mentioned in my first post.
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The note 1 and s4 both had super amoled screens. The screen on note 9 is certainly much better but not perfect as I have mentioned in my first post.
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yeah i just double checked an your right thy did.
what models re you buying? us or international?
also you might want to try and condition your screen.
oled tools is but one example of apps that display static images at full brightness.
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I have in the past used Note 1 then upgraded to Galazy S4 and now Note 9. When I tried all these devices in store before buying. Their screens appeared to be excellent. But once I bought them and used them for a few days I slowly started to see issues with screens. The note 1 I had slowly developed this redness on right edge of the phone over time visible only on grey background under low brightness. I got it replaced 3 times but then gave up. After that when I switched to S4 it had this reddish top and greenish bottom visible only on low brightness and white or light grey background. I got it replaced once and again got a similar screen with the same issue plus overall slightly yellowish tint on the whole screen. So once again I gave up and was using the same device from past 5.8 years. Now when I tried the Note 9 in stores i just loved the screen and ordered it. Now after using it for a few days I find on light backgrounds that the screen is slightly brighter at the bottom than the top. In fact it's like it's whiter at the bottom than at the top. I was thinking are there amoled screens which have uniform whiteness/brightness across the screen. In all other aspects the screen is perfect to me but this issue once I know it's there is somewhat annoying to me. How is your screen ?
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Most people wouldn't notice.
I've had a SGSII, a Note 4 and I'm currently using a Note 8. All of SAMOLED displays have been really good with no issue as you have described.
dieselhazza said:
The OLED screen in the XZ3 is better than the one on the Note 9 no doubt about it. Sony have actually done an amazing job and taught samsung a lesson. First shot bullseye
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You do know that Sony is failing in the smartphone department right? They currently in the same situation as LG. Unfortunately, the screen won't save their smartphone division.
Edit: Playstation is where Sony gets their money these days. Sad to see.
"A growing thorn in Sony’s side is its mobile handset business which counts its revenue, primarily from its Xperia line of handsets under the Mobile Communications segment. Sales of $6.88 billion were down 5% from the previous year and the group posted a loss of $255 million.
The mobile communications group guided to a further 12% drop in sales for fiscal 2018 and a projected loss of $138 million. The group does see some light at the end of the tunnel – 5G wireless technology."
They gave been losing money year over year, quarter over quarter man. Their lack of innovation is dragging them down like LG.
By the way, last edit. Sony didn't make that OLED screen. LG Display did.
Displaymate rated the Note 9 as having the best display ever on a mobile phone. Just as they did for the S9, and Note 9 before that. Pretty much every new top of the line Samsung device trumps the best there was before it.... and the best there was has pretty much always been on a Samsung device. Sammy makes the best displays.
In any case, you can find other very good displays on other phones that look pretty much as good, but when a place like Displaymate puts a "best ever" sticker on a device's display, it is for a reason. Note 9 display is not much different than the Note 8 display for instance, but it is enough of an improvement to warrant the top billing from Displaymate.
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The OLED screen in the XZ3 is better than the one on the Note 9 no doubt about it. Sony have actually done an amazing job and taught samsung a lesson. First shot bullseye
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Here's that survey, the Note 9 is MIA, how convenient.
https://www.androidheadlines.com/20...-display-is-the-best-claims-a-survey.html/amp
Can't go wrong with either, but, just wanted to post a credible link vs your inexplicable need for the attention from trolling...
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Here's that survey, the Note 9 is MIA, how convenient.
https://www.androidheadlines.com/20...-display-is-the-best-claims-a-survey.html/amp
Can't go wrong with either, but, just wanted to post a credible link vs your inexplicable need for the attention from trolling...
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that article never named its source. could have just as well been sony propaganda. love how the article starts with " claims a survey.." of what? 2 or 3 clueless dudes? Maybe Karandeep Singh got payed a couple of rupees..or even a sony phone out of it
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and now since what's on the internets is always "true", people acctualy believe anything nowadays if its well framed and worded.
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that article never named its source. could have just as well been sony propaganda. love how the article starts with " claims a survey.." of what? 2 or 3 clueless dudes? Maybe Karandeep Singh got payed a couple of rupees..or even a sony phone out of it
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and now since what's on the internets is always "true", people acctualy believe anything nowadays if its well framed and worded.
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Actually,it appears to be nothing more than a marketing company hired by Sony:
https://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/legal/testresults/xperia-xz3/
https://www.strategyanalytics.com/
https://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=1051783
All companies on this level tend to use such garbage "research" for marketing,all claims like this should come with an e-coupon code for a pinch pound of salt.
What's worse is peeps getting their panties in a wad,feeling the need to either rationalize their choice in phones,trolling those that have "x" phone,& the fanboi behavior that's fueled by the fluff articles.
The Note 9 is a nice phone,got one myself.
Is it the absolute best out there? In the eye of the beholder & nothing more.
Others choosing something else is equally fine,one would be hard-pressed to actually find a truly terrible phone w/o intentionally seeking one out.
Note 9 earpiece smudges won't go away
Hey I guys I bought the note9 from 6 days ago. One day I was just rubbing the top bezel ( the space that has selfie camera, iris, led, ect) suddenly I saw 2 smudges, one above the earipeice, one under. I kept rubbing it and it doesn't go away. I believe that maybe when I was rubbing my hands were sweating so water entered beneath the glass. Here's a picture I posted here so maybe you'll get what I mean. If anyone has this issues or fixed please share it here. If the attachment is not working please say.
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Ahmed
Ahmedaymanelkhodary said:
Hey I guys I bought the note9 from 6 days ago. One day I was just rubbing the top bezel ( the space that has selfie camera, iris, led, ect) suddenly I saw 2 smudges, one above the earipeice, one under. I kept rubbing it and it doesn't go away. I believe that maybe when I was rubbing my hands were sweating so water entered beneath the glass. Here's a picture I posted here so maybe you'll get what I mean. If anyone has this issues or fixed please share it here. If the attachment is not working please say.
Thanks
Ahmed
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Take it back & exchange for a new one.
Any attempts to fix it on your own will likely make it worse.
Don't waste a minute waiting for home remedies here, utilize the return/exchange policy for a free replacement before that period expires.
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All note 9 owners can you please open any site with white background in google chrome and when the phone is held in hand in portrait mode do you see even slight difference between the white levels at the top and bottom of the screen. Please reply. Its very slight but its there.
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No
Just looked at a note 9 i have and the note 8 and using chrome on a white (blank) home screen i dont see any color shift at the top or bottom or anywhere on the screen.
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All note 9 owners can you please open any site with white background in google chrome and when the phone is held in hand in portrait mode do you see even slight difference between the white levels at the top and bottom of the screen. Please reply. Its very slight but its there.
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I opened Samsung browser with no tabs open white screen. Slightly yellow or warm color. Looks pretty even but if I were to be extremely critical top side is a more darker maybe.
The white is definitely not like the note 8 white . Using amoled photo with slight blue light setting.
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My Note 9 has an even white color across the whole screen. It also has a bit truer whites than my Note 8. Part of that may be that my Note 8 is now a year old, but overall I believe Samsung tuned the contrast down a bit on the Note 9 from the Note 8. Just to be clear, I am using the exact same display settings on both phones.... so I am getting an accurate comparison of the Note 9 vs Note 8. There is very little difference, you'd have to literally be looking at them side by side to notice the slight difference.
Ahmedaymanelkhodary said:
Hey I guys I bought the note9 from 6 days ago. One day I was just rubbing the top bezel ( the space that has selfie camera, iris, led, ect) suddenly I saw 2 smudges, one above the earipeice, one under. I kept rubbing it and it doesn't go away. I believe that maybe when I was rubbing my hands were sweating so water entered beneath the glass. Here's a picture I posted here so maybe you'll get what I mean. If anyone has this issues or fixed please share it here. If the attachment is not working please say.
Thanks
Ahmed
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looks as if you have a glass or plastic film. the cutout of the speaker is to high for it being the original glass
Compare home screen icons on the note 8 and note 9. Let me know what difference you see. I see the note 9 not being as sharp. But then on the same token , the note 9 like I said earlier is more natural and appeasing to the eyes.
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I opened Samsung browser with no tabs open white screen. Slightly yellow or warm color. Looks pretty even but if I were to be extremely critical top side is a more darker maybe.
The white is definitely not like the note 8 white . Using amoled photo with slight blue light setting.
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Exactly that is what I am trying to say. The screen is beautiful with the best whites I have seen on a amoled screen and its pretty even as well. But my eyes seem quite sensitive to screens and I also feel the top is somewhat darker.
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Hi All,
I also experience the touch screen issue on my Galaxy S20 FE.
I have created a short video on how to check and reproduce it: Galaxy S20FE touch screen issue - testing and reproducing
Please share your comments if you also experience it.
Did that experiment and i think my device is "ghost touch free".
Sent from my S20 FE 5G
maderos said:
Did that experiment and i think my device is "ghost touch free".
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Yes, if you don't experience this, you unit is issue-free. I have also asked others to test, they have no issue at all.
This is why I think that *might* be a hardware/production issue.
carlosmeldano said:
Yes, if you don't experience this, you unit is issue-free. I have also asked others to test, they have no issue at all.
This is why I think that *might* be a hardware/production issue.
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Yes, that's what it would seem to suggest - and it's discouraging, I was really hoping this was a software issue. Would the 120 Hz refresh be a factor in this? That is, do you get the same result at 60 Hz?
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Yes, that's what it would seem to suggest - and it's discouraging, I was really hoping this was a software issue. Would the 120 Hz refresh be a factor in this? That is, do you get the same result at 60 Hz?
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Nothing. Either under charging or not, either 60Hz or 120Hz, no matter if Touch Sensitivity is set to low or high, it happens.
But as it doesn't happen for everyone with the same software, it tends to be a hardware issue or a production defect.
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Nothing. Either under charging or not, either 60Hz or 120Hz, no matter if Touch Sensitivity is set to low or high, it happens.
But as it doesn't happen for everyone with the same software, it tends to be a hardware issue or a production defect.
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Very interesting, and helpful - thank you.
Tested mine with no issues but I had a bit of red tint on the screen as I have posted in another thread.
I just checked mine and I have the same issue, would samsung rma for this?
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Tested mine with no issues but I had a bit of red tint on the screen as I have posted in another thread.
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Thanks for the feedback. It seems not all users are having this issue. If you cannot reproduce the issue following the video instructions, then you are touch error-free. But then, it shows that it is not a general issue, but some manufacturing defect. For the red tint, I have seen your other post, I also have a barely visible greenish one, around where the camera is, and around the bottom 1/3 mark. But as it was stated, it is somewhat "normal".
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Thanks for the feedback. It seems not all users are having this issue. If you cannot reproduce the issue following the video instructions, then you are touch error-free. But then, it shows that it is not a general issue, but some manufacturing defect. For the red tint, I have seen your other post, I also have a barely visible greenish one, around where the camera is, and around the bottom 1/3 mark. But as it was stated, it is somewhat "normal".
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Do you notice a red tint when looking off angle at the screen?
I notice it somewhat when looking directly at the screen but very visible off screen, when using a white screen though.
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I just checked mine and I have the same issue, would samsung rma for this?
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Good question. I spoke with Samsung Support and they wanted me to visit the Service Center. I told them that I will not spend that much time on it, this phone is too expensive for having this kind of support. I will just return it and ask for a refund, then wait 1-2 months if the problem is solved.
I was just thinking yesterday...
This phone has Gorilla Glass 3 on the display, which is a way different structure than current GG6 (or GG4). GG3 is much thicker and more acts like a glass (breaks easier). Since GG4, newer Gorilla Glasses are more flexible, thinner, and more durable, too.
What if Samsung has just put a thick glass on top of a modern digitizer (touch panel) which was designed for a different structure and much thinner glass layer, and this causes the touch problems?
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Do you notice a red tint when looking off angle at the screen?
I notice it somewhat when looking directly at the screen but very visible off screen, when using a white screen though.
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I notice it under normal circumstances like browsing, while straight looking at it, when the page background is like pale yellow/orange. It is only a bit visible, but when you read text and scroll, it is disturbing that the greenish tint remains on the screen. But honestly, this is not that bad. On a white background, I don't even notice it.
When I look from a bottom angle and moving the phone's angle, the tint bars move as well.
carlosmeldano said:
Good question. I spoke with Samsung Support and they wanted me to visit the Service Center. I told them that I will not spend that much time on it, this phone is too expensive for having this kind of support. I will just return it and ask for a refund, then wait 1-2 months if the problem is solved.
I was just thinking yesterday...
This phone has Gorilla Glass 3 on the display, which is a way different structure than current GG6 (or GG4). GG3 is much thicker and more acts like a glass (breaks easier). Since GG4, newer Gorilla Glasses are more flexible, thinner, and more durable, too.
What if Samsung has just put a thick glass on top of a modern digitizer (touch panel) which was designed for a different structure and much thinner glass layer, and this causes the touch problems?
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where are you located? I was thinking about doing this too for my red tint issue. but sounds like a lot of trouble. I would agree that you definitely need a new phone
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carlosmeldano said:
I notice it under normal circumstances like browsing, while straight looking at it, when the page background is like pale yellow/orange. It is only a bit visible, but when you read text and scroll, it is disturbing that the greenish tint remains on the screen. But honestly, this is not that bad. On a white background, I don't even notice it.
When I look from a bottom angle and moving the phone's angle, the tint bars move as well.
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You mean are referring to the green tint correct? Are you saying that you have no reddish/pink tint at all on your phone?
I notice it very clearly when looking at it at angle or even normal position. And I can see it move when I move the phone to different positions.
the XDA review has the same issue actually (nothing on the touchscreen): https://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-galaxy-s20-fe-review/
"The viewing angles, though, are disappointing because the display still features visible angular color shifting to blue as well as a rainbow out interference effect at extreme angles. Newer Samsung OLED panels have eliminated the rainbow out interference effect, and also reduced off-axis color shifting by a significant amount. The Galaxy S20+’s viewing angles, for example, are much better because the color shifting is much lower. Strangely, even the cheaper Galaxy M51 (review) doesn’t feature the interference effect issue (that is likely caused by the polarizer)."
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where are you located? I was thinking about doing this too for my red tint issue. but sounds like a lot of trouble. I would agree that you definitely need a new phone
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EU. I bought the phone in the official German Samsung webshop. If I would be out of the return period, I would of course take it to the Service Center even with the red tint, but this way, I will just return it.
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You mean are referring to the green tint correct? Are you saying that you have no reddish/pink tint at all on your phone?
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True, I have no reddish tint, I have some greenish one When looking straight at the phone, it is around the opposite side of the camera, and about a thumb tall. But really, not that visible, I just see it because I know it is there
I read the quoted article. This can also easily happen because of Gorilla Glass 3, maybe it has different inner reflection that causes these bands.
carlosmeldano said:
Good question. I spoke with Samsung Support and they wanted me to visit the Service Center. I told them that I will not spend that much time on it, this phone is too expensive for having this kind of support. I will just return it and ask for a refund, then wait 1-2 months if the problem is solved.
I was just thinking yesterday...
This phone has Gorilla Glass 3 on the display, which is a way different structure than current GG6 (or GG4). GG3 is much thicker and more acts like a glass (breaks easier). Since GG4, newer Gorilla Glasses are more flexible, thinner, and more durable, too.
What if Samsung has just put a thick glass on top of a modern digitizer (touch panel) which was designed for a different structure and much thinner glass layer, and this causes the touch problems?
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That sounds reasonable...however, what about all the phones using GG5, 6, or above that have a tempered glass screen protector on them, which would certainly make the glass atop the digitizer much thicker, and that do NOT have any touch issues? It seems to me that the thickness of the glass...up to a reasonable measure that I do not know what it may be...is not the issue here because my S20 FE does not have the touch issues. But mine does always turn on in my pocket. So it seems as if the proximity sensor is faulty. I wonder if this "bug" is somehow related to the touch issues. Though they appear to be different problems...they are related to how the screen works. Clearly something is wrong and I am not sure that any of it can be fixed with software. SMH
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That sounds reasonable...however, what about all the phones using GG5, 6, or above that have a tempered glass screen protector on them, which would certainly make the glass atop the digitizer much thicker, and that do NOT have any touch issues? It seems to me that the thickness of the glass...up to a reasonable measure that I do not know what it may be...is not the issue here because my S20 FE does not have the touch issues. But mine does always turn on in my pocket. So it seems as if the proximity sensor is faulty. I wonder if this "bug" is somehow related to the touch issues. Though they appear to be different problems...they are related to how the screen works. Clearly something is wrong and I am not sure that any of it can be fixed with software. SMH
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You are right, I also thought of it, but not only the thickness, but also the material structure can cause problems like transferring more static electricity to the digitizer that cause ghost touches. And the glass screen protector is on top of the screen which is far enough in distance from the digitizer. I can also imagine that combining this digitizer with GG3 would require less manufacturing tolerance than they used, and that causes just too much defective units. Just guessing...
But as you also stated, problems are mostly with the screen and touch panel. Ghost touches, incorrect finger recognition causing jerks, pocket wakeup, reddish/greenish tint on the screen. And +1: not all users have this problem.
If this would be a software-related issue, all models would be affected more or less. If some units are fine, some are wrong, with the exact same software, then it should be a hardware-related problem. Question: do they used different brand of digitizers for different units, or there is just a huge ratio of defective units coming out of the factory because they had to put as many units on sale as they could because Pixel 5 and iPhone 12 has arrived and they wanted to catch a lot of customers? Just guessing, again...
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True, I have no reddish tint, I have some greenish one When looking straight at the phone, it is around the opposite side of the camera, and about a thumb tall. But really, not that visible, I just see it because I know it is there
I read the quoted article. This can also easily happen because of Gorilla Glass 3, maybe it has different inner reflection that causes these bands.
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So strange, every one of the phones I looked at in the store has these bands. Surprised yours does not.
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So strange, every one of the phones I looked at in the store has these bands. Surprised yours does not.
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If watching from bottom angle, I see the bands, but in straight view, I only see some greenish tint. It is not very disturbing for me. I mean, I have a LED TV, which has some of these typical IPS clouding effect on the screen edges. 99% of the time, it is not visible because the content is bright. But when watching a movie that has a night scene and there is no ambient light in the room, it is awful. But in general, I like the TV
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If watching from bottom angle, I see the bands, but in straight view, I only see some greenish tint. It is not very disturbing for me. I mean, I have a LED TV, which has some of these typical IPS clouding effect on the screen edges. 99% of the time, it is not visible because the content is bright. But when watching a movie that has a night scene and there is no ambient light in the room, it is awful. But in general, I like the TV
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Interesting, thank you for the response. I see the red tint straight on and at angles too, so maybe we have a similar issue but a different color?
I also have a LG OLED, which can look quite bad in some very dark scenes because of banding.
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Interesting, thank you for the response. I see the red tint straight on and at angles too, so maybe we have a similar issue but a different color?
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That might be the case! Different color, but the same tint / band.