Hi all!
I've been an S3 user for a little over 1.5 years; been a native of the Sprint forums (although my Sprint S3 is flashed to Page Plus).
Now that VZW has made their prepaid plan a lot more competitive and included LTE, I'm planning on making the jump, and thinking of picking up an G2 in the process.
I've loved my S3 - I run a rooted stock 4.4.2 rom, debloated all the samsung & sprint crap via titanium, and a custom kernel that's been tweaked to work well with my phone - and it functions perfectly - still fast, great battery life for a ~2 year old phone, etc. Been around android for some time now (first phone was the OG incredible), so am perfectly comfortable tweaking and such, however I don't want to spend too much time doing so.
I'm reading about the G2 and curious if it's worth the upgrade. I've heard several people online (mainly on the vzw forums) complain about the verizon 4.4.2 update causing issues with the phone. If I root, debloat, and run a quality custom kernel, am I likely to have issues? Is this even possible?
I've been looking at the S4 too, but it appears verizon has locked down the phone so much it's not worth it. Also there appear to be a ton of issues with their kitkat update.
I only use my phone for web browsing, calendaring email, texting, and talking - no gaming. I'm mainly looking forward to having the nicer screen and camera, and the likely possibility of a few more Android updates (which the S3 is unlikely to get). Honestly I'd love to have the next Nexus or something that runs closer to stock, but don't have the luxury to wait around for that phone (and I want to stay on vzw's network).
I've been doing some reading around your forum and am just curious as to your thoughts on the jump S3 -> vzw G2. Pros & cons?
Thanks much,
-Dirk
dirkdigles said:
Hi all!
I've been an S3 user for a little over 1.5 years; been a native of the Sprint forums (although my Sprint S3 is flashed to Page Plus).
Now that VZW has made their prepaid plan a lot more competitive and included LTE, I'm planning on making the jump, and thinking of picking up an G2 in the process.
I've loved my S3 - I run a rooted stock 4.4.2 rom, debloated all the samsung & sprint crap via titanium, and a custom kernel that's been tweaked to work well with my phone - and it functions perfectly - still fast, great battery life for a ~2 year old phone, etc. Been around android for some time now (first phone was the OG incredible), so am perfectly comfortable tweaking and such, however I don't want to spend too much time doing so.
I'm reading about the G2 and curious if it's worth the upgrade. I've heard several people online (mainly on the vzw forums) complain about the verizon 4.4.2 update causing issues with the phone. If I root, debloat, and run a quality custom kernel, am I likely to have issues? Is this even possible?
I've been looking at the S4 too, but it appears verizon has locked down the phone so much it's not worth it. Also there appear to be a ton of issues with their kitkat update.
I only use my phone for web browsing, calendaring email, texting, and talking - no gaming. I'm mainly looking forward to having the nicer screen and camera, and the likely possibility of a few more Android updates (which the S3 is unlikely to get). Honestly I'd love to have the next Nexus or something that runs closer to stock, but don't have the luxury to wait around for that phone (and I want to stay on vzw's network).
I've been doing some reading around your forum and am just curious as to your thoughts on the jump S3 -> vzw G2. Pros & cons?
Thanks much,
-Dirk
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I've read people having issues after the update as well, but I've had none. Came from a Sammy phone as well, and well, I'm not going back. Absolutely LOVE this phone. Super fast, amazing screen, and excellent battery.
I'm running stock kitkat, debloated, with Simple kernel and have zero complaints. There are two kernels that steal the show (imo): Simple (for those who just want a custom kernel that doesn't need tinkering with) and dorimanx (which has all the options you could ask for).
Should you switch? H*ll ya you should. But that's just my opinion. You won't be disappointed.
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I've read people having issues after the update as well, but I've had none. Came from a Sammy phone as well, and well, I'm not going back. Absolutely LOVE this phone. Super fast, amazing screen, and excellent battery.
I'm running stock kitkat, debloated, with Simple kernel and have zero complaints. There are two kernels that steal the show (imo): Simple (for those who just want a custom kernel that doesn't need tinkering with) and dorimanx (which has all the options you could ask for).
Should you switch? H*ll ya you should. But that's just my opinion. You won't be disappointed.
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Thanks! I read some reports of overheating with the 4.4.2 update, and also GPS issues; I take it you haven't had any of those running a custom kernel / setup?
Otherwise this phone is sounding pretty good.
dirkdigles said:
Thanks! I read some reports of overheating with the 4.4.2 update, and also GPS issues; I take it you haven't had any of those running a custom kernel / setup?
Otherwise this phone is sounding pretty good.
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GPS seems to be phone specific. I haven't had GPS issues with stock or custom kernel.
The heating thing is a bit trickier. Both kernels have overheating throttle, which does protect the phone. The only time I feel heat is playing Sonic (yes, sonic the hedgehog, I had a genesis back in the day, what can I say), so if you don't game you won't experience it. If I'm not playing, zero heat. Since you're not a custom rom guy, don't have to worry about it there either.
The other issue that seems to be common is a dead spot where the sim card is all the way across the phone. I've never had it (nor has my wife) because I think it has to do with heat (don't quote me on that).
So that's my general idea when it comes to this phone. I really believe you'll be happy you switched.
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GPS seems to be phone specific. I haven't had GPS issues with stock or custom kernel.
The heating thing is a bit trickier. Both kernels have overheating throttle, which does protect the phone. The only time I feel heat is playing Sonic (yes, sonic the hedgehog, I had a genesis back in the day, what can I say), so if you don't game you won't experience it. If I'm not playing, zero heat. Since you're not a custom rom guy, don't have to worry about it there either.
The other issue that seems to be common is a dead spot where the sim card is all the way across the phone. I've never had it (nor has my wife) because I think it has to do with heat (don't quote me on that).
So that's my general idea when it comes to this phone. I really believe you'll be happy you switched.
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No shame! I used to play sonic all the time back in the day (had a genesis as well).
Yeah, there's a chance I'll install a custom rom but I generally like things clean and neat (debloated of course) so would likely just stick with stock + a custom kernel.
What do you mean by dead spot? On the touch screen?
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No shame! I used to play sonic all the time back in the day (had a genesis as well).
Yeah, there's a chance I'll install a custom rom but I generally like things clean and neat (debloated of course) so would likely just stick with stock + a custom kernel.
What do you mean by dead spot? On the touch screen?
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Correct. But there doesn't seem to be a real correlation with anything (at least what I've read). Some just suspect heat is the culprit.
The dead spot goes clear across. Warranty it if it happens. But it seems fairly rare.
All the "issues" are hardware related, so a warranty takes care of it. Like any phone, there's always something. But if you're like me and treat the phone like a baby (handle with care) you shouldn't have a single issue.
I did the custom rom thing on my old phone but got tired of things not quite being right. Personally, I feel lg did an excellent job on the stock stuff. De-bloat and all is just fine!
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Correct. But there doesn't seem to be a real correlation with anything (at least what I've read). Some just suspect heat is the culprit.
The dead spot goes clear across. Warranty it if it happens. But it seems fairly rare.
All the "issues" are hardware related, so a warranty takes care of it. Like any phone, there's always something. But if you're like me and treat the phone like a baby (handle with care) you shouldn't have a single issue.
I did the custom rom thing on my old phone but got tired of things not quite being right. Personally, I feel lg did an excellent job on the stock stuff. De-bloat and all is just fine!
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Dead spots on the screen which is part of the screen is bad...Plus there is an ongoing issue of the dreaded black lines. I have yet have any issues with the g2 and i traded my s5 for it. Yes I did a trade from a s5 to the g2. Its the best phone in my book still out on market. it was funny the sale rep looked at me funny and just wanted to laugh and say why. He claims its the best phone but I dont think so. the g2 looks great all around, fast as heck, and is flashable.
I went from s3 to g2 you can totally tell the difference in power.I havhad the black lines issue after flashing but return to stock and sent to replacement and has been fin ever since.but I had the option of upgrading to g3 or st and after using the g2 over the s3 I'm on board with LG I used to only own Samsung's since the fascinate but after using them and playing with them I think LG does good what I need it to do Samsung has been doing the gimmicky stuff lately and it's kinda made me meh about them.and I think having the Qhd screen is trying to future proof me so when I upgrade in another 2 years I'll still be happy and not dreading not having it
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I have a four year old Blackberry Storm. I like the phone but it will not tether to my NC so I can use the phones internet.
Now I am looking for a new phone.
4G is not a required but it would be nice.
Suggestions?
Please tell us who your carrier is.
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Sorry, That would be a big help....
Verizon
The Samsung Galaxy S II
is rather sexy.
But there are alot of great choices out there.
4G would be a good choice in general. Tether it to your Nook and you can easily stream all the media you want to your Nook and enjoy media on the 7" screen.
The Galaxy S II is coming to Version in July
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/08/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-said-to-be-verizon-bound-in-july/
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Oops, read the article closer, I guess Galaxy S II in July is not confirmed. read the update at the bottom of the article. Sorry.
Definitely...
The 3 best verizon phones out there are the:
Thunderbolt (HTC) Good speeds, android 2.3.4 with gingeritis (a rom) root, sense 3.0 on that rom, but bad battery life. 4G though.
Droid Incredible 2 (HTC) I believe its Froyo, but sense 2.1 on stock rom with good battery. 3g though.
Droid CHarge (Samsung) Bad UI, bad manufacture. Android is OK with the customizations. But 4G + Extremely good battery + tethering = awesome time with the Nook
Good battery life is a lot higher than streaming video. I almost never use my phone for this.
My phone is primarily for work. Email, phone, data.
I am a Submarine Combat Systems Electronic/Computer Engineer and I upload ton of Word/Excel files, PDF ect along with technical manuals and cheat sheets that I have developed myself to aid with any repairs that I have to do, in any part of the world. Having world phone coverage is NOT an issue. But the issue with that, is up until now 99% of all phone screens were too damn small.
The NC has fixed that issue.
I use Documents to Go on the Storm and now have it on the NC along with a bunch of other apps. I want to start to use my NC for email and such in conjunction with my new phone. Sometimes I get new schematics, PDF's etc emailed to me when I am out on some boat.
My long term goal is to make the phone and NC one integrated system. Transmitter/receiver on my belt, and NC in my hands.
Does this help?
Oh, rooting my new phone will have to be a must....
Thanks to all who have already responded.
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The 3 best verizon phones out there are the:
Thunderbolt (HTC) Good speeds, android 2.3.4 with gingeritis (a rom) root, sense 3.0 on that rom, but bad battery life. 4G though.
Droid Incredible 2 (HTC) I believe its Froyo, but sense 2.1 on stock rom with good battery. 3g though.
Droid CHarge (Samsung) Bad UI, bad manufacture. Android is OK with the customizations. But 4G + Extremely good battery + tethering = awesome time with the Nook
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bad manufacturer? how so?
From the verizon porfolio, i would wait for more LTE phones to roll out. There is really nothing attractive coming out from them.
ph00ny said:
bad manufacturer? how so?
From the verizon porfolio, i would wait for more LTE phones to roll out. There is really nothing attractive coming out from them.
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I have never owned one, but the general consensus on this and most every other forum seems to be that Samsung is the worst manufacturer by a very large margin. I have heard various reasons why such as a horrible UI, bad build quality and extremely slow updates to current models. Having never owned one I can't confirm any of this but the XDA community as a whole seems to feel that Samsung phones are not a wise choice and I've learned never argue with them so I went HTC
Edit: Also do keep in mind that many newer phones are expected to have locked bootloaders. This means no custom ROMS or possibly no rooting... and that means that if you want tethering you will have to buy Verizons tethering plan. So, if you are wanting to do the free tethering provided by rooting your phone then you will want to make sure that whichever phone you buy can in fact be rooted! And in the case of many newer phones coming out this summer, that is very much in doubt I'm sad to say. But then again all these rumors may be just sky-is-falling panicky behavior by us newbs, the Chefs may be able to root and flash boot-locked phones in a month flat for all we know!
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I have never owned one, but the general consensus on this and most every other forum seems to be that Samsung is the worst manufacturer by a very large margin. I have heard various reasons why such as a horrible UI, bad build quality and extremely slow updates to current models. Having never owned one I can't confirm any of this but the XDA community as a whole seems to feel that Samsung phones are not a wise choice and I've learned never argue with them so I went HTC
Edit: Also do keep in mind that many newer phones are expected to have locked bootloaders. This means no custom ROMS or possibly no rooting... and that means that if you want tethering you will have to buy Verizons tethering plan. So, if you are wanting to do the free tethering provided by rooting your phone then you will want to make sure that whichever phone you buy can in fact be rooted! And in the case of many newer phones coming out this summer, that is very much in doubt I'm sad to say. But then again all these rumors may be just sky-is-falling panicky behavior by us newbs, the Chefs may be able to root and flash boot-locked phones in a month flat for all we know!
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Outside of the whole brand bias, general consensus including professional reviews are usually favorable for samsung's high end phones.
They did have some issues just like every other manufacturer and it may have seemed worse partially based on the fact that they had the single largest successful line up out of all the android handsets last year
Btw, galaxy s2 came with unlocked bootloader and received at least two updates since early may and 2.3.4 is supposedly under way. As for the carrier delayed roms, there is a real issue there when two identical devices on two different carriers ended up getting the froyo updates months apart.
Btw samsung released the gingerbread update before anyone else.
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ph00ny said:
Outside of the whole brand bias, general consensus including professional reviews are usually favorable for samsung's high end phones.
They did have some issues just like every other manufacturer and it may have seemed worse partially based on the fact that they had the single largest successful line up out of all the android handsets last year
Btw, galaxy s2 came with unlocked bootloader and received at least two updates since early may and 2.3.4 is supposedly under way. As for the carrier delayed roms, there is a real issue there when two identical devices on two different carriers ended up getting the froyo updates months apart.
Btw samsung released the gingerbread update before anyone else.
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They also just sent free Samsung Galaxy S II's to many of the Cyanogenmod developers. Also, it seems that the trend NOW is that the manufacturers will be unlocking their bootloaders. (samsung has never locked theirs if I remember correctly)
Well that is good news. Maybe they are trying to buy their way back onto the XDA peoples good graces Hey as long as they have learned from their mistakes and are building quality phones now, nothing wrong with that! And I have no doubt that no matter what they buy the Devs, it won't get them any good press here that they don't deserve. Like I mentioned I never bought one. I've just heard hundreds of people posting about how "bad" they were for one reason or another. But I'm always glad to see another Android manufacturer step up their game, it's good for the community as a whole!
I have the Droid X and it play well with my NC using Wireless Tether.
I picked up a LG Revolution. Seems ok, but battery life is not great. Better than the Thunderbolt but still not great.
Using wireless tether on the phone, I was able to get my NC to the internet using Wi-Fi. Attempted Bluetooth tethering but that was a no go.
Thank to all for the recommendations.
my samsung galaxy s gt-i9000m is a fantastic bit of hardware that had lots of software issues that made out seem as though it was bad hardware. I found software fixes for everything that was wrong, e.g., microphone distortion, gps failure to lock, etc. & now it is a perfect device. Maybe HTC is better out of the box, but if you are a tweaker the galaxy is rewarding.
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my samsung galaxy s gt-i9000m is a fantastic bit of hardware that had lots of software issues that made out seem as though it was bad hardware. I found software fixes for everything that was wrong, e.g., microphone distortion, gps failure to lock, etc. & now it is a perfect device. Maybe HTC is better out of the box, but if you are a tweaker the galaxy is rewarding.
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Thunderbolt, Droid Charge are the best options. If 4G is not a must, the Droid X2 has a dual core.
They all will do what you want. Just different styles which is up to your personal tastes.
I have now had htc samsung and moto phones (all Android) and there are pros and cons. Just go to a store and see what feels best when you hold it.
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There really is no "best android" phone IMO. There are different needs for different reasons and people. You mention that you want to make them work seamlessly, blue tooth or tethering both will work. As long as the phone is rootable and a selection is there for apps to work together from phone to NC, then the simple answer is with phone do you prefer? I always make sure my phones have a battery that can be removed..screen is easy on eyes and I have a good feel for it. Currently using my EVO which is sprint for both my nook, transformer and when also my netbook. I might upgrade to the 3d and even thought about samsung galaxy 2..from what a friend of mine told me who has a samsung...flash CM in it becuase of the update issues..he is TMobile..
4g
Well
i use evo 4g with cm7 latest nightly to tether to my nc... it compliment each other....
Donny
I owned a galaxy s on tmo before. I liked it a lot. Very light, great screen, decent power. No build issues other than flaky GPS (vibrant version only?) Hard to brick for those who flash a lot. Problem with file system early on(due to proprietary fs), solved by roms. I actually unlocked it and still switch to it from my inspire4g. No locked bootloader.
But really, any android (that is unlocked bootloader) will work... its all about preferences.
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Do you really still have a IIe? (yea, right) That would be awesome. I had two of them at one time...
I think it's safe to say the community for the T-mobile Note is just about as empty as a legacy device from the old days. I don't really see much other then the Jedi Leader ICS and CM10 nightlies so i'm guessing people that aren't jumping up to the Note2 are sticking with some they consider stable.
So What are you running?
I'm running ParanoidAndroid 2.51. One of these days i need to sit down and learn how to properly build from source so I can keep myself somewhat amused.
I've been running liquid smooth rc9 for the past week and its been running nicely. I used paranoid also and really liked it, just not a big fan of the dual panel menu.
I've been messing around trying to learn to develop from source. I've been working on a kernel, but have been getting some errors when I go to compile. I haven't been able to figured out what I'm doing wrong yet.
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jedi leader here for past week
why
I was just looking at this device... why so few using? My guess is that most people are on the phone rental plans so they opt to Note II or SGS3 or ???? on the Ebay market this one is still pulling a strong price . what is the base/stock rom for it anyway?
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I was just looking at this device... why so few using? My guess is that most people are on the phone rental plans so they opt to Note II or SGS3 or ???? on the Ebay market this one is still pulling a strong price . what is the base/stock rom for it anyway?
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cuz tmobil only had it on sale for a very short time(few weeks) before it was pulled out for the upcoming Note 2. So not many was sold
Are there any compatible Atat galaxy note ROMs for T-Mobile galaxy note since development over here is practically nonexistent?
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Are there any compatible Atat galaxy note ROMs for T-Mobile galaxy note since development over here is practically nonexistent?
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Look at the WiFi and vibration fix thread in the development section...it tells you how to use all the att ROMs...I'm running the att AOCP rom on my Tmobile note right now
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good info.
I didn't know there was a WIFI issue.
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I think it's safe to say the community for the T-mobile Note is just about as empty as a legacy device from the old days. I don't really see much other then the Jedi Leader ICS and CM10 nightlies so i'm guessing people that aren't jumping up to the Note2 are sticking with some they consider stable.
So What are you running?
I'm running ParanoidAndroid 2.51. One of these days i need to sit down and learn how to properly build from source so I can keep myself somewhat amused.
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We ar all thinking/wondering, are you keeping youself amused with building a rom
there is surely a lack of love for the Note but why? its specs are very close to the overpriced note 2...
they sell fairly well [usa] on ebay - go fast, and price at about half the price of a clean note 2 ...
I don't know if I can call $325 a BARGAIN per se, but its competitive with other thingies in that range
I'm running with pan droid 2.5.6 on my T-Mobile note one...
Just follow directions.. easy
Thanks again
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can someone check my assumption here: I need T-mo WIFI calling app to work with no issues - I'm dependent on it.
I am assuming that an AT&T version [unlocked] is a no-go, 'cause at&t really wants to defeat wifi so it will not have the app.
correct?
i'm 0 for 2 on unlocked at&t phone attempts with T-mo .... its enough of a challenge just finding ANY phone, including those T-mo pushes, that will handle wifi calling app smoothly.
luckily i have had several that do so
I just switched from Jedi 4 to Liquid Smooth rc 9. No complaints so far. Enjoying the liquid splasher options. I did take Gnote from the Paranoid rom and install it on this one though as I couldn't find an Snote substitute that I liked anywhere else.
Hi OP! I have an att note that I got by reupping my son's line- he hates smartphones and just recently started using a keyboard phone for easier texting- he's 26. I have had this phone for a year, didn't use it for the 1st 4 months since tmobile didn't work so well till the blaze modem was set up for this phone.
I tried the stock t-mo rom when it was available after tmobile released their note. Didn't work so well- had heat issues. So have been running ptmr3's padawan for i717 with blaze modem- on the monthly 4g plan for 6 months or so. Love that!
2 days ago I tried the tmo roms again. Stock still problematic, but tried ptmr3's Jedi4 with the new mixed modem of tmo and n7005. It's working really well with great data speeds- 10-14 mbps DL, and 1-3 mbps UL. Battery seems to be doing well and no heat issues with this modem.
I would love to get the note 2, but can't justify the $$ and no way do I want a contract with anybody. So, here I am with my note that I still love, and I flip back and forth between my GNex for a smaller phone when needed.
For the person who wants to flash the att roms, I read yesterday that all roms between the att and tmo notes are interchangeable with no flash problems.
I did it with Jedi 4 with no other prep. I wiped padawan rom and data, flashed Jedi, and then started testing modems after it settled in. So far, so good. There are still Note lovers here
I just upgraded to the note from my sgs4g. Currently I am running PA but I like to switch between that and CM 10. Don't be surprised if this phone gets a sudden push of users since Tmobile is offering it as a cheep upgrade phone, also Samsung's in general are safer to root and load custom roms on. Even though this is not a popular phone, it is gaining in ownership. ALSO I like how you can load all the 717(att note) roms if you want.
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I just upgraded to the note from my sgs4g. Currently I am running PA but I like to switch between that and CM 10. Don't be surprised if this phone gets a sudden push of users since Tmobile is offering it as a cheep upgrade phone, also Samsung's in general are safer to root and load custom roms on. Even though this is not a popular phone, it is gaining in ownership. ALSO I like how you can load all the 717(att note) roms if you want.
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to me its a great device. I may start a Bloatware guide thread...it could help some. I would hope all of you pitch in.
hate to sound ignorant, but which is "PA" ?
for now I am sticking with leaning down the stocker, and looking out for a Jellybean push from samsung.
mine is pretty fast as it is with about half a dozen or more uninstallations of stock bloat. i have plenty of memory space.
I got to the Note 1 via Nexus 7. make sense? I was using a LG and, like you, SGS4G which we still have [need to REALLY skinny that one down], so I get the n7. after rooting and playing around with various mods and configs, I was thinking: I'd like to have this 720p but integrated with the handset since I can't figure out where the big tablet fits in with my habits... plus I wanted sd storage, wifi calling, etc. so the logical answer: Note! reading the specs, I don't see that the very hot-selling Note 2 [with apparently auto-cracking screens...] is worth nearly double what I paid for my note 1.
Pa is paranoid android.
JellyBam
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to me its a great device. I may start a Bloatware guide thread...it could help some. I would hope all of you pitch in.
hate to sound ignorant, but which is "PA" ?
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Well Shane is correct it does stand for Paranoid Android. I agree that this phone is a bargain now. It us one of the few phones you can get for less then $400 with out an upgrade. Granted I used my upgrade. I used the upgrade, because the old galaxy s 4g was two years old she needs a new battery. It was time to pass her down to my son. So down graded her from JB (it wasn't quite stable yet) to ICS and gave her to the boy. I was able to catch this at Costco for $50 (with an upgrade) So I jumped on it.
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I do the $30 monthly with t-mobile and rely on wifi calling a lot since my home office is in a dead zone. switching to the "unlimited" data plan [100min talk...i'm not a big talker] in a couple days - got the $30 window on that. [btw... the data allowance on the 30 talk-oriented monthly is very small, but I'm not sure they can calibrate it right via wifi because I have used data heavily but never come close to running over, and a lot of times when I spot-check it the meter shows Zero]
this is a good handset. keep it lean and its as fast as any non-gaming person can use.
and I see far fewer screen breakage reports on this one [knock on wood]. there are a lot of busted note 2's on ebay hunting a buyer.
I am fresh off my 2 year and am riding out the service till summer when new phones will be out. I am on an Optimus one at the moment and Really want to get something new. Off Contract of course. Would you suggest the S2 or would a G2X be good enough for the next 6ish months?
Any other devices considered as well.
I realize this may be in the wrong section, sorry if it is.
GS2 all the way. If you can get the O2X P990 over the G2X, then that's a good choice too, but the GS2 is still better.
The G2X is going to be stuck on Gingerbread until someone figures out how to get the cell radio working in CM10 (currently it's been ported from the P990 CM10 and everything works except the phone part, lol). The O2X has official CM10 support but it is still not quite as stable as most would like. The GS2 on the other hand got official ICS and JB updates and has great support from CM10 and AOKP.
sgs2 is better, do not get a g2x, get an optimus 2x.
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GS2 all the way. If you can get the O2X P990 over the G2X, then that's a good choice too, but the GS2 is still better.
The G2X is going to be stuck on Gingerbread until someone figures out how to get the cell radio working in CM10 (currently it's been ported from the P990 CM10 and everything works except the phone part, lol). The O2X has official CM10 support but it is still not quite as stable as most would like. The GS2 on the other hand got official ICS and JB updates and has great support from CM10 and AOKP.
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wait, Isn't the osx and g2x pretty much the same phone, just different branding? I honestly don't know if ICS of Jelly Bean has anything I NEED. I just want it to be stable, have the market so I can download apps, games. Stuff like NFC is cool and all, but the chance of me using it is real slim. I think I am still an Iphone man. It's just simple, everything works ya know. things come out for it first and there isn't many issues. Idk Maybe if I got a higher end android I wouldn't mind it much. but My optimus t burned me on google os.
Also I'm on T-mobile in the states. if that makes the difference
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wait, Isn't the osx and g2x pretty much the same phone, just different branding? I honestly don't know if ICS of Jelly Bean has anything I NEED. I just want it to be stable, have the market so I can download apps, games. Stuff like NFC is cool and all, but the chance of me using it is real slim. I think I am still an Iphone man. It's just simple, everything works ya know. things come out for it first and there isn't many issues. Idk Maybe if I got a higher end android I wouldn't mind it much. but My optimus t burned me on google os.
Also I'm on T-mobile in the states. if that makes the difference
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No, there are differences besides the branding between the O2X and the G2X. The G2X was designed to run on T-Mobiles networks, so the 3G bands it works on are different than that of the O2X.
I think the SGS2 is better than both at this point though.
alrighty. I was pretty set on that anyway, but thought I would see what some fellow xdaers thought. Any idea where else I could look for a GS2? I tried Swappa, Glyde, Ebay and Craigslist. any others I could browse? trying to stay around and possibly under $230
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alrighty. I was pretty set on that anyway, but thought I would see what some fellow xdaers thought. Any idea where else I could look for a GS2? I tried Swappa, Glyde, Ebay and Craigslist. any others I could browse? trying to stay around and possibly under $230
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ebay and kijiji are the only sources I'm familiar with.
The GS2 is massively popular so despite its age it's going to be expensive even used.
If you say you're more of an iPhone type of guy, I guess the G2X will fit your needs if you don't plan to flash custom ROMs.
As for ICS/JB - it's more than just NFC, it's a hardware-accelerated interface that makes scrolling silky smooth compared to GB, as well as general refinements in the UI such as the pull down notifications for SMS and the really nice lockscreen (the CM10 one at least). The hardware acceleration is the biggest deal here though.
Additionally, if you aren't the custom ROM type of guy and want simplicity, I'd suggest taking a look at Windows Phone - it's closer to iOS than to Android in that it's relatively locked down and there's hardware consistency across all handsets, but it's still considerably more flexible than iOS, i.e. you can (easily) get your media off the phone after you put it on!
Im not talk why and why, so my decision would be a SGSII... thank you xD
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sgs2 with absolutely no doubt mate. the only thing id be thinking about is the s-amoled display (i kinda have a thing for lcds), but since ull be using it for less than a year i see little chance of getting any ghost effects on the display (which doesnt happen to everyone anyway). ive seen a sgs2 running ics (not even jb which is right around the corner) and i was blown away.
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Samsung is for girls,be a man and get a O2x
Samsung is for girls,be a man and get a O2x
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absolutely right. women being smarter n more practical would obviously go for a trouble free device. men, being ehhmm men, would go for the o2x so they can spend 100's of hours to fix all bugs, modify roms/kernels, overclock and then happily show off to their friends a phone that runs (almost) as it should in the 1st place
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Oh I flash a lot on my Optimus1 but I'm tired of it. Regardless of what android devices I get, I'll flash something to get rid of any bloat and give myself root access to do link2sd. I can't get the O2X cause I am on T-mobile so it would be the G2X I guess. I just want to get the phone and play with it now.
I know all about Windows OS. I would but some of the games/apps I like to use arent on it yet. If apps came out within a small time period on iOS, Windows and Android, then i would consider it more but not just yet. Only thing really drawing me to windows is the awesome camera on the Nokia 920, I think.
Guess I'll try to hunt a SGS2 on craigslist or Ebay for now.Just real tired of this 600Mhz phone with 180mb for apps. LAME!
If you are willing to save a little more, I'd suggest looking at either the Galaxy Nexus (used) or the Nexus 4 (new, $300). Both are pentaband phones so they support T-Mobile and most major GSM carriers. And they are pure Android, no carrier apps or stupid skins, so if all you want to do is get rid of bloat, it's really unnecessary to flash custom ROMs onto those models. In fact, the reason I got interested in CyanogenMod at first (back in 2011 with a HTC Desire Z) was that I really wanted a Nexus experience, and all the extra customization features were just a bonus.
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If you are willing to save a little more, I'd suggest looking at either the Galaxy Nexus (used) or the Nexus 4 (new, $300). Both are pentaband phones so they support T-Mobile and most major GSM carriers. And they are pure Android, no carrier apps or stupid skins, so if all you want to do is get rid of bloat, it's really unnecessary to flash custom ROMs onto those models. In fact, the reason I got interested in CyanogenMod at first (back in 2011 with a HTC Desire Z) was that I really wanted a Nexus experience, and all the extra customization features were just a bonus.
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Yes sir, I looked for the Galaxy Nexus and it's about the same price. and the N4, well its sold out now and probably will be next time, by the time I did buy one and it shipped, I'd get my phone in June. Pff nah. I'll try to keep looking for the s2 or an older nexus. Do you think it's stupid to resign? I want to keep myself off contract so I can go where ever in the later part of the year, be it ATT or Something else. I'm so confused
I don't know a lot of phones that support AWS 1700, but one provider in my country has a fairly healthy listing:
http://shop.windmobile.ca/ProductCatalog/Handsets/
(ignore the prices there, they're bound to be inflated over what you can get stateside or on ebay - dock off at least $200 as an initial estimate).
That might introduce you to some more options, hope it helps.
Go with s2. You get more development there.
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thanks guys. This can be deleted now. I'm in the forum general now
Leave the G2X where it is. No support.
I'd rather go a cheap and by a O2X, it's really supported by the community and it's a lot of fun
I must say GS2 its better dude,. Not a fanboys..
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What do you think about the Sensation 4g? I can get it for under 200 unlike the GS2 which is upwards of 250 and higher.
So, a little bit of background... I'm on AT&T with a Galaxy S4. AT&T has the bootloader locked up tight so I can't get rid of any of the bloat, or try other ROMs. I was thinking about selling it and going for a Moto X or a N5 but I shied away from the N5 due to camera, battery, and speaker issues. I like the idea that the X is assembled in the US and stuff but mainly I want a phone I can tinker with.
I understand by leaving the S4 I'd be downgrading in screen quality, processing power, IR blaster and camera. I'm not really a phone gamer so I don't know that I'd need all that power. I've heard the X can hold its own in the realm of processing speed and screen but the camera is probably the biggest drawback.
Is it worth it? Convince me. I'm thinking hard about Monday's sale. I want the unlocked DEV ED version but I'd rather be able to motomaker it. If I were to get the AT&T one off contract, would it come branded and locked? Can I load a custom recovery, etc? Thanks for your help.
You want a phone to tinker with? This phone isn't for you.
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You want a phone to tinker with? This phone isn't for you.
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Why not? I should explain my definition of "tinker". I am not a programmer and I don't build my own roms. I just like using others and more customization.
This phone barely has ROMs. It doesn't really need any because it is a stock android experience. If you do want to tinker, the N5 would be a better option. However I prefer the Moto X (had both.)
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Why not? I should explain my definition of "tinker". I am not a programmer and I don't build my own roms. I just like using others and more customization.
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It isn't needed on this phone. The S4 needed it because it was so laggy and touchwiz ruined pretty much everything.
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This phone barely has ROMs. It doesn't really need any because it is a stock android experience. If you do want to tinker, the N5 would be a better option. However I prefer the Moto X (had both.)
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Why do you prefer the Moto X? Will I miss not having CM support or many other roms?
In my old android age(started with cupcake) I am looking for a flawless experience, I have been through the crack flashing and modding stages and I can tell you the Moto X is the phone I will be keeping for a long time. The reason people are not building custom roms is that they are not needed. The android experience is amazing. I have had no lagging what so ever and believe me I have tried to cause lag. Yes on paper it is slower than a S4 but in real world performance it is what I think android users have been looking for. The Battery is amazing. My wife who uses her phone almost all day for work commented that she did not have to charge her phone at all during the day and still had about 35% when she got home. The camera on this phone is great. Again if you get down to the paper specs the S4 is probably better but in real world performance the camera is great. Make the jump my friend, you will not regret it.
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In my old android age(started with cupcake) I am looking for a flawless experience, I have been through the crack flashing and modding stages and I can tell you the Moto X is the phone I will be keeping for a long time. The reason people are not building custom roms is that they are not needed. The android experience is amazing. I have had no lagging what so ever and believe me I have tried to cause lag. Yes on paper it is slower than a S4 but in real world performance it is what I think android users have been looking for. The Battery is amazing. My wife who uses her phone almost all day for work commented that she did not have to charge her phone at all during the day and still had about 35% when she got home. The camera on this phone is great. Again if you get down to the paper specs the S4 is probably better but in real world performance the camera is great. Make the jump my friend, you will not regret it.
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WAIT DID YOU JUST SAY THE CAMERA ON THIS PHONE IS GREAT?? Your joking right?
Andrew149 said:
WAIT DID YOU JUST SAY THE CAMERA ON THIS PHONE IS GREAT?? Your joking right?
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I said it was great not awesome or the best out there.
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Why do you prefer the Moto X? Will I miss not having CM support or many other roms?
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Personally all I like from CM are battery percentages & customizable tiles. Very minor things compared to the features of the moto x: active notifications, touchless controls, camera gesture. Also I like AMOLED screen, size, speaker & design better than N5.
I came from a S2 that I ROM'ed the crap out of. As stated the Moto x doesn't need ROM"s but if, like me, you want a different battery, percentage, and a few other tweaks like center clock and different quick tile settings, then all that is needed is root, exposed framework, and gravity box.
Love this phone.
I'll be honest and say I've never believed in any of Samsung's Android products. I tell myself every single time Samsung releases a handset - the hardware's one of the best, but I wouldn't be caught dead being seen using that hardware and software. (I only got the Galaxy Nexus because, well, Nexus.) There. I openly declare my love for the stock Android experience, and even looking at the S4s my friends use there will be weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth coming from me whenever I have to use one.
But I digress. This phone is one of the purchases I have not regretted. Never mind the fact that I had snafus with payment from eBay that resulted in some US$100 taken from me for no reason, never mind the delay in shipping that was caused by a friend of mine, never mind the emotional trauma that I had to go through for a whole month before I got this phone. This is a phone where I can tell people it offers one of the best user experience, everything ranging from the software and its functions, down to the hardware and its design. (Hell, I'd go out on a limb and say this trumps the iPhone.)
In defense of my Moto X, the camera has substantially improved since the first version of software. I'm currently on a KitKat ROM of the Verizon variant, and I wouldn't shy away from using it anymore (though, yes, improvements surely can be made). If you're coming from an S4 (and I pray and assume that you've changed your ROM to something non-TouchWiz) you'll have to get used to the lower quality of photos, as well as the speeds granted by the phone.
Until now, I've never had the need to install anything to augment my experience. I haven't installed any of the Xposed mods yet, but I'm planning to soon as I'm missing some of the features granted by custom ROMs (slide down right for shortcuts, vibrate on call connect, etc). But beyond the addition of the features that Motorola actively promotes, such as its Active Notifications, Touchless Controls and Assist, this is going to be the most stock you'll ever get from a well-known phone company. This is how customization is done.
Well, now that I've expressed my love for the phone, I hope to see you joining the Moto X family soon. Now excuse me while I stop sounding like a complete Motorola fanboy. (But seriously, though. The way Motorola has leaped back into the game is nothing short of impressive.)
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Personally all I like from CM are battery percentages & customizable tiles. Very minor things compared to the features of the moto x: active notifications, touchless controls, camera gesture. Also I like AMOLED screen, size, speaker & design better than N5.
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Not to mention you can get all those features with xposed and gravitybox without even changing the very stable stock rom.
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If you're coming from an S4 (and I pray and assume that you've changed your ROM to something non-TouchWiz) you'll have to get used to the lower quality of photos, as well as the speeds granted by the phone.
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That's the whole problem. I can't go to a different rom because the bootloader is locked up tight. Noone has been able to crack it.
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That's the whole problem. I can't go to a different rom because the bootloader is locked up tight. Noone has been able to crack it.
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Then whatcha waiting for? Run baby run. Lol
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So if I were to pull the trigger on this, I don't want to trade one locked bootloader for another. The AT&T version is unlockable right?
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So if I were to pull the trigger on this, I don't want to trade one locked bootloader for another. The AT&T version is unlockable right?
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On the contrary. The AT&T version has a permanently locked bootloader (at least, until someone finds something to attack it). You'll need to look at other versions. I'm not sure about which spectrum the carriers in the US use, but your best bet would be the Developers' Edition. Or, if you can lay your hands on one (which is going at a pretty high price nowadays), Latin American versions will work too.
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On the contrary. The AT&T version has a permanently locked bootloader (at least, until someone finds something to attack it). You'll need to look at other versions. I'm not sure about which spectrum the carriers in the US use, but your best bet would be the Developers' Edition. Or, if you can lay your hands on one (which is going at a pretty high price nowadays), Latin American versions will work too.
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Thanks Ragna. Sounds like the TMO version is the right one for me. It sounds like others are able to use it no problem on AT&T and install a custom recovery.
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Thanks Ragna. Sounds like the TMO version is the right one for me. It sounds like others are able to use it no problem on AT&T and install a custom recovery.
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Heh. Enjoy! I love this phone. This is after paying almost 700-800 bucks on this phone, and being deprived of LTE usage. (The frequency band Singapore and Malaysia uses for LTE is not supported by the X.) Even then, the tradeoff is still worth it for me. Heh
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go on my friend you will not regret it, I love this phone and just the stock android experience is awesome!
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go on my friend you will not regret it, I love this phone and just the stock android experience is awesome!
I have both the G4 and the S6, as you may or may not know the S6 is unlockable and has had root for a while now. Despite that, I have decided to keep my G4, the potential locked in this phone is way too much to give up on. Odd thing is, the G4
doesnt seem to have had its radios tweaked or optimized, the S6 is a touch faster both on WiFi and LTE. The downside is
the bloat ball called touchwiz. It's choppy and eats a TON of ram. UX 4.0 is far and away better. As far as the cameras go, the
camera on the G4 is faster at getting locked in on what i'm shooting, but when zoomed in, the picture almost looks like an
oil painting. Once we do eventually get the G4 unlocked, I hope we get a camera mod much like the one I had for the G3.
I'm also looking forward to viper4android, that's definitely a must have for Google music imo. Anyway, hopefully we'll get
our beasts unlocked soon.
I agree totally. I had the s6 for a while. It has some awesome features and the camera is great, but it always was buggy and the ram issue was horrible. The G4 may not be perfect but I am enjoying it a lot more than my s6.
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I have both the G4 and the S6, as you may or may not know the S6 is unlockable and has had root for a while now. Despite that, I have decided to keep my G4, the potential locked in this phone is way too much to give up on. Odd thing is, the G4
doesnt seem to have had its radios tweaked or optimized, the S6 is a touch faster both on WiFi and LTE. The downside is
the bloat ball called touchwiz. It's choppy and eats a TON of ram. UX 4.0 is far and away better. As far as the cameras go, the
camera on the G4 is faster at getting locked in on what i'm shooting, but when zoomed in, the picture almost looks like an
oil painting. Once we do eventually get the G4 unlocked, I hope we get a camera mod much like the one I had for the G3.
I'm also looking forward to viper4android, that's definitely a must have for Google music imo. Anyway, hopefully we'll get
our beasts unlocked soon.
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I concur with both of you. I had the S6 Edge and sold it for the G4. I'm just surprised we not only don't have root yet, but that there hasn't really been any direct talk of if anyone is close. That is a big concern to me. From my experience, there are usually folks chatting about their progress (or lack thereof). Anyway, love the device so far....
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I concur with both of you. I had the S6 Edge and sold it for the G4. I'm just surprised we not only don't have root yet, but that there hasn't really been any direct talk of if anyone is close. That is a big concern to me. From my experience, there are usually folks chatting about their progress (or lack thereof). Anyway, love the device so far....
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i agree too on going with the G4, i sold my nexus 5 and got the G4 before i even checked in here to see if it was rootable/unlockable yet
and the reason no one is talking about it is that so many people come in here complaining about no root or not being able to unlock their phone yet, but it is being worked on and in fact the devs doing it have unlocked carrier phones (from what i have seen), they are just working on a way to make it easy for the general public to do it and to make sure there is a way back or at least a way to not brick your phone. plus LG is on here too so there isnt much chatter here so that LG doesnt patch what they are working on before they can even get it out to us
it will come i am sure of it
Me too, i find this to be this first device i could use without root, i would still rather have it than not, but i could own this phone long term without it. Glad to see a positive note and people having the same experience i am with the phone. I also was a former S6 owner, my wife has it now so i can really check them out side by side and its no contest, and thats with my wife on a custom rom.
I was thinking how far phones have come since I got my first Android phone back in 2012 (Mytouch 4G Slide) Some great ROMS on that old thing. I moved on up to a Nexus 4 from that. The so called professional review sites claim that the differences between the S6 and G4 cameras are so small that it's hard to pick a clear cut winner, but I tell you, the only flaw in the G4's camera is the over sharpening. The S6's camera software kinda sucks, the viewfinder looks grainy and the pictures aren't any better. The ram issue sealed it for me, the darn thing has 3gb of ram available, how does T/W use that much?
Wow, so sad to see no progress on root and twrp. I bought this device thinking I was getting the "full" flagship experience.
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Rydah805 said:
Wow, so sad to see no progress on root and twrp. I bought this device thinking I was getting the "full" flagship experience.
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Me tooooooooo. Im for one thought this will be where i will end up building some roms and custom kernels but man im so frustrated it with this phone is not even funny.
My flashaholic coaster is over. Is so sad.....
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Wow, so sad to see no progress on root and twrp. I bought this device thinking I was getting the "full" flagship experience.
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define full flagship experience?
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and just because no one is posting about it doesnt mean no one is working on it. give it time, dang, the phones only been out for 2 and a half months. thats the problem with xda these days, we are so hellbent on having root and being unlocked so we can void our warranty and flash firmware to our expensive devices for what? so we can say "hey look i unlocked my phone and flashed CM on it, take that LG, now my phone is not near as good as it was when i bought it"
LMAO
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define full flagship experience?
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and just because no one is posting about it doesnt mean no one is working on it. give it time, dang, the phones only been out for 2 and a half months. thats the problem with xda these days, we are so hellbent on having root and being unlocked so we can void our warranty and flash firmware to our expensive devices for what? so we can say "hey look i unlocked my phone and flashed CM on it, take that LG, now my phone is not near as good as it was when i bought it"
LMAO
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It was a figure of speech. Lol. In reality, I'm good without root for a while.
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I just want ad blocking... Custom ROM's aren't my thing anymore.
Love the phone but the jank is really starting to get to me. Picked up my N5 today and was shocked at how much smoother it was than my G4
Hi all, jumped the Sammy ship after some 3.5 years using Galaxy devices (latest was a S4). It's actually the first time I get a flagship almost when it's been released, and so far this phone seems like a great device. I'm not looking for custom ROMs yet, root would be nice, but as it stands it's an awesome Android flagship.
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Love the phone but the jank is really starting to get to me. Picked up my N5 today and was shocked at how much smoother it was than my G4
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Glad to see some people are not afraid to state the truth. I have a g4 s6 nexus 5 and oneplus one now and the g4 is the slowest. Just sits on my desk. Is funny how oneplus one and nexus 5 feel way faster than the s6 and g4.
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Biggest issue I'm having is with WiFi. I'm not sure if it just slows itself down or becomes unresponsive but there's something that's making my internet hang.
I had the same issue. I installed DNSet and my WiFi started working better
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Glad to see some people are not afraid to state the truth. I have a g4 s6 nexus 5 and oneplus one now and the g4 is the slowest. Just sits on my desk. Is funny how oneplus one and nexus 5 feel way faster than the s6 and g4.
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Same here. My One Plus is smoother and faster . Rooted Zmax is faster . Love the form factor of the G4 ,but text and mms issues are starting to annoy me to no end....
Because the N5 use stock android, the biggest advantage of the G4 is much longer battery life. For me it's matter because the battery on Nexus is non-swapable and battery life is not good.
ambervals6 said:
Glad to see some people are not afraid to state the truth. I have a g4 s6 nexus 5 and oneplus one now and the g4 is the slowest. Just sits on my desk. Is funny how oneplus one and nexus 5 feel way faster than the s6 and g4.
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Left the note 4 because of the crap camera taking forever to focus and the gps that never could find a signal. At first i thought i made a mistake because of the lag i was getting before updating to the new N update and i am not looking back. The g4, at its 479 price point is a monster
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Left the note 4 because of the crap camera taking forever to focus and the gps that never could find a signal. At first i thought i made a mistake because of the lag i was getting before updating to the new N update and i am not looking back. The g4, at its 479 price point is a monster
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So you do have camera focusing problem with note 4..I thought it was just me..