If I understand safestrap correctly, at this time we can't use ROM slots other than stock. So when I flash a ROM, I have to use the stock slot, and I'm overwriting the original AT&T ROM. OK. So I should keep a copy of the original stock AT&T ROM on my SD card and flash that back to the stock ROM slot if I want to go back to regular old AT&T ROM.
If I want to flash something like Cerberus so that it's part of the system and isn't removable if someone steals my phone and wipes it, then I can simply go into safestrap and flash it, even over the unchanged AT&T ROM.
I should also ask, I have been using Xposed (wanam and others). Can I reinstalled Xposed now that I have installed safestrap?
I tried installing visix using a rom slot anyways. It worked fine for a day and then started acting very buggy. Had to go back to stock. I will hold off until we are told can use the rom slots. I much prefer that option vs completely removing stock.
kettir said:
If I understand safestrap correctly, at this time we can't use ROM slots other than stock. So when I flash a ROM, I have to use the stock slot, and I'm overwriting the original AT&T ROM. OK. So I should keep a copy of the original stock AT&T ROM on my SD card and flash that back to the stock ROM slot if I want to go back to regular old AT&T ROM.
If I want to flash something like Cerberus so that it's part of the system and isn't removable if someone steals my phone and wipes it, then I can simply go into safestrap and flash it, even over the unchanged AT&T ROM.
I should also ask, I have been using Xposed (wanam and others). Can I reinstalled Xposed now that I have installed safestrap?
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you can go ahead and install xPosed however it has been reported that some modules can behave badly so just a tip to watch out for. I'm not 100% familiar with cerberus but i would think the drawback is if the thief knows how to use odin they can completely revert the device so all in all security software is great but if its stolen still best to call the carrier and have it blacklisted just my two cents.
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I was attempting to flash the stock att firmware via rsd and have deleted the stock rom from safestrap recovery in the process. I would like to get back to stock rom (ATT). I can boot in safestrap and currently have golden rom on another rom slot but need to get back to stock firmware or stock rom as im selling the phone atrix HD.
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I was attempting to flash the stock att firmware via rsd and have deleted the stock rom from safestrap recovery in the process. I would like to get back to stock rom (ATT). I can boot in safestrap and currently have golden rom on another rom slot but need to get back to stock firmware or stock rom as im selling the phone atrix HD.
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I can inbox you a link to my restore, note: I have personal files, so I'm going to trust you'll delete the data partition. Tell me if your interested.
Maybachiswhereitsat said:
I can inbox you a link to my restore, note: I have personal files, so I'm going to trust you'll delete the data partition. Tell me if your interested.
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Thats amazingly generous of you, but I was able to upgrade RSD lite and flash the stock firmware. Again, i greatly appreciate your help.
No problem, glad you could fix your phone.
Sent from my DROID Atrix HD MAXX using xda app-developers app
Is your AT&T ROM image still available?
Maybachiswhereitsat said:
No problem, glad you could fix your phone.
Hi, I have an Atrix HD with Batakang in slot 1 and of course the stock AT&T ROM in, well, the Stock slot. I have Safestrap 3.11. I wanted to unlock the phone for int'l use, and it simply would not give me the prompt to enter the unlock code (said "Invalid SIM" or something like that), so I left it with an AT&T dealer because the process should have been simple, but wasn't.
They couldn't do it either, but when I got the phone back, the entire 8GB ROM space was wiped! Batakang was gone, the Stock slot is empty, and unfortunately, the Safestrap backup I made of Stock (and left on the internal SD) was gone too!
I did have a Batakang backup which restored fine, I entered the unlock code OK in it (I assume that worked - there was no confirmation message), but still have an empty AT&T stock slot.
What ROM images I've found are not compatible with Safestrap, so what I'm looking for is either a Safestrap backup or a zip installer compatible with Safestrap, or any other suggestions appreciated! Thanks!
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Does anyone know if there is a way to install HyperDrive Tweaks 2.0 on an SGH-i537 running 4.2.2 and MF3? How about just the Device Menu(shutdown menu)? I really like HyperDrive and run 10.2 from slot 1, but since I can't run it as my stock ROM, I was looking for ways to customize my stock ROM.
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Does anyone know if there is a way to install HyperDrive Tweaks 2.0 on an SGH-i537 running 4.2.2 and MF3? How about just the Device Menu(shutdown menu)? I really like HyperDrive and run 10.2 from slot 1, but since I can't run it as my stock ROM, I was looking for ways to customize my stock ROM.
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I know we've been talking a bit in the other thread, but is there a reason you want to customize your stock ROM with tweaks rather than just using Hyperdrive in slot 1? Ideally here's what I would do if I ever had to start over:
Flash phone to stock MF3 at local Best Buy
Before setting up my phone again, copy the entire phone and post a zip for the community
Do not set up stock ROM, simply root and install SafeStrap
Max out the memory settings on slot 1 and only use slot 1.
The benefit to doing this is I would have an almost completely untouched stock ROM that I could always use to receive official updates while still running a custom ROM as my default.
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I know we've been talking a bit in the other thread, but is there a reason you want to customize your stock ROM with tweaks rather than just using Hyperdrive in slot 1? Ideally here's what I would do if I ever had to start over:
Flash phone to stock MF3 at local Best Buy
Before setting up my phone again, copy the entire phone and post a zip for the community
Do not set up stock ROM, simply root and install SafeStrap
Max out the memory settings on slot 1 and only use slot 1.
The benefit to doing this is I would have an almost completely untouched stock ROM that I could always use to receive official updates while still running a custom ROM as my default.
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Well, so far, my experience has been that the stock ROM is the most stable. Since I have seen HyperDrive and GPE and have even added some things from Sony Zperia, I see things I like in all of those. If I can tweak my stock and have all the parts from other ROM's that I like, why wouldn't I? There is no local Best Buy here, but I rarely take my equipment to a business for service, too many kids who don't really know what they are doing, I guess. Also, I thought I read somewhere that unlocking my phone was what would prohibit me from installing updates? But since you mention that subject, couldn't I clean the slots, un-root, remove safestrap and do a factory rest and have my original ROM? I know last week I was trying to flash a widget and I did a factory reset, wiped cache and it seemed to be stock to me. I know I had to re-setup my accounts and re-download my apps. I was able to download the last AT&T update, just couldn't install, but I still had root and safestrap. So, from what I read, I could probably install the update if I wanted to and took care of root.
So, I guess to answer your question, I get a kick out of making changes in general, whether if be with my stock ROM or an added one. I'm not a developer, but I do wish I knew more about the OS so I could help with the bootloader issue.
One thing for sure, I definitely appreciate the help I get from the folks here. Pretty fun stuff.
I am a bit nervous to take the plunge and try out Xposed on my Active. Just rooted it yesterday, installed the Google edition Rom. Now I am wondering if Xposed will work on stock or the Google Edition. I will give it a go if no one has tried yet.
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I am a bit nervous to take the plunge and try out Xposed on my Active. Just rooted it yesterday, installed the Google edition Rom. Now I am wondering if Xposed will work on stock or the Google Edition. I will give it a go if no one has tried yet.
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Xposed works fine, I haven't run into any problems. Since you're using SafeStrap anyways there's no harm in trying things for yourself. Even if something does go wrong you can always wipe your slot and start over, that's pretty much the whole reason for SafeStrap.
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Xposed works fine, I haven't run into any problems. Since you're using SafeStrap anyways there's no harm in trying things for yourself. Even if something does go wrong you can always wipe your slot and start over, that's pretty much the whole reason for SafeStrap.
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Good to know. A possible stupid question here, would it be best to load my back up of my stock onto one of the ROM Slots? To try out the Xposed. I am coming from HTC One X, so roms and such are done a bit different, I am not quite used to the ROM slot.
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Good to know. A possible stupid question here, would it be best to load my back up of my stock onto one of the ROM Slots? To try out the Xposed. I am coming from HTC One X, so roms and such are done a bit different, I am not quite used to the ROM slot.
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I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to do. In your first post you mentioned that you have the GPE ROM installed (I assume you have it in slot 1) and you want to install Xposed to it. There should be no problems doing this since ROMs are independent of each other and do not share any data.
I think what you really need to know is how SafeStrap works. Basically, SafeStrap creates new ROM "slots" while preserving your stock ROM "slot". These slots are completely independent of each other and only share a kernel. So any changes you make to one ROM will not impact the other. Now it is possible to flash a new ROM to your stock "slot", but this is not how SafeStrap is intended to work. Ideally you install a ROM to a new slot and use that ROM as your daily driver. The stock ROM is supposed to be your fallback in case you mess anything up with your new ROM. You are more than welcome to modify your stock ROM or even install a new ROM to your stock slot, but if you do this and you mess something up with your stock slot you could risk bricking your phone. That is why it is recommended that you don't mess with your stock ROM.
As for your original question, there is no need to install your stock ROM to a new ROM slot since it is already there, all you are doing is taking up twice as much space on your phone.
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I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to do. In your first post you mentioned that you have the GPE ROM installed (I assume you have it in slot 1) and you want to install Xposed to it. There should be no problems doing this since ROMs are independent of each other and do not share any data.
I think what you really need to know is how SafeStrap works. Basically, SafeStrap creates new ROM "slots" while preserving your stock ROM "slot". These slots are completely independent of each other and only share a kernel. So any changes you make to one ROM will not impact the other. Now it is possible to flash a new ROM to your stock "slot", but this is not how SafeStrap is intended to work. Ideally you install a ROM to a new slot and use that ROM as your daily driver. The stock ROM is supposed to be your fallback in case you mess anything up with your new ROM. You are more than welcome to modify your stock ROM or even install a new ROM to your stock slot, but if you do this and you mess something up with your stock slot you could risk bricking your phone. That is why it is recommended that you don't mess with your stock ROM.
As for your original question, there is no need to install your stock ROM to a new ROM slot since it is already there, all you are doing is taking up twice as much space on your phone.
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I understand I was a bit unclear. I do have the Google edition installed, but I am encountering massive reboots. I was going to uninstall it and install a backup version of the stock in to the ROM Slot containing the Google edition. I understand I do not want to mess with my stock Slot, that is why I wanted to install my Stock Rom into the Rom Slot I made. Which, sounds like it is the safest bet.
AkFatherof4nCounting said:
I understand I was a bit unclear. I do have the Google edition installed, but I am encountering massive reboots. I was going to uninstall it and install a backup version of the stock in to the ROM Slot containing the Google edition. I understand I do not want to mess with my stock Slot, that is why I wanted to install my Stock Rom into the Rom Slot I made. Which, sounds like it is the safest bet.
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I would recommend deleting Slot 1, recreate it and install the GPE ROM again. A lot of people have been using it without issue including myself. The only known problem with the GPE ROM is computers do not detect the phone as a usb mass storage device when using the ROM.
If you are having issues with reboots I suggest deleting the slot and starting over from scratch. Also make sure your slot is big enough for the ROM and anything you're going to install. If the slot is too small you could run into the issues you've mentioned.
As to installing your stock ROM to a slot, why not just try another ROM? There are plenty of regular S4 ROMs that work on our phone. You are not limited to the ROMs that are found in the development section of this forum. There are at least 5 other ROMs I have tried and I'm sure there are many more that work as well.
I guess I'm just missing the point of why you want to install your stock ROM to another slot if you already have it? I'm sure there are ROMs already existing that can do what you are trying to modify your stock ROM to do. I recommend trying out Hyperdrive for tons of features. I personally use the GPE ROM found in this forum. Check out this thread for more information on ROMs that work with the S4 Active and SafeStrap.
@Devo7v, thanks, will reinstall and give it a shot. Thank you for your time.
So, around April-ish last year I rooted my At&t galaxy note 3 and installed safestrap, then alliance rom. I wanted to find a ROM I liked, then just sort of stick with that so I didn't have to monitor development updates about my phone and all that. The only problem with the ROM was that it had a memory leak so bad that I had to reboot about 3 times a day or else the memory would get all used up and the phone would freeze. For some reason, I didn't think it would bother me that much- the phone boots quickly and I was so fed up by then I didn't want to try anything else. I figured that if I ever did want to go back to stock (and I do now), that I had my stock ROM backed up to one of the extra slots that safestrap gives you. Well, I looked- turns out I don't. I checked my external hard drive and found a backup folder with "TWRP" in it, and in it a folder called stock -1970 -04- 02. I placed that folder in the corresponding TWRP folder on my phone's extsdcard, but safestrap doesn't see it in the restore screen. Does it have to be a zip? I totally forgot all this stuff; I haven't messed with my phone in half a year.
If that doesn't work, I'd really be cool with wiping everything and flashing a stock ROM build. I don't know where to find one though, and it should be mentioned that my Alliance ROM build has "MJ5" in it somewhere, if that means anything.
I've rambled a bit, but hopefully someone can point me to my best options.
Thanks!
Use Odin to flash the file with "home" in it from this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2838117
It will load the latest stock firmware. You can re-root with towelroot.com
The "home" file doesn't wipe anything so your apps will be intact. If you want a full wipe and install use the other 4 files in that thread.
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Worked like a charm, thanks!
For the past couple of months I've been stuck on a dead ROM (Pure Shamu), and I decided I wanted to upgrade to 5.1.1 to get the performance and battery improvements. I want to go back to stock (or at least as stock as you can get) because I want to use Xposed and GravityBox as the source of my custom features as opposed to hardbaked features like in a custom ROM. However, every tutorial about going back to stock involves using the factory images to wipe everything on the phone, including the internal SD card, to begin anew. I'd really prefer not to do that, as backing up everything on my internal SD card and restoring it via a slow USB 2.0 connection seems like a ridiculous hassle. Is there some easier way to go back to stock?
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For the past couple of months I've been stuck on a dead ROM (Pure Shamu), and I decided I wanted to upgrade to 5.1.1 to get the performance and battery improvements. I want to go back to stock (or at least as stock as you can get) because I want to use Xposed and GravityBox as the source of my custom features as opposed to hardbaked features like in a custom ROM. However, every tutorial about going back to stock involves using the factory images to wipe everything on the phone, including the internal SD card, to begin anew. I'd really prefer not to do that, as backing up everything on my internal SD card and restoring it via a slow USB 2.0 connection seems like a ridiculous hassle. Is there some easier way to go back to stock?
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Flash a stock rooted ROM.
As above, flash a rooted stock zip.. FYI, you can extract system and boot.img from factory image and fastboot flash them. That won't wipe. It's not the best option here but worth knowing.