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[Q] Locked bootloader?

I'm contemplating the idea of pre-ordering the X on Verizon because I love Moto's build quality. I had a Razr Maxx for a while and I loved the phone and, of course, the battery life. The only thing that really killed it for me was the locked bootloader. Has there been any word on whether or not it'll be locked on the VZW version? I'm hoping that since Google now owns Moto they'll allow the option to unlock it.

Lockett said:
I'm contemplating the idea of pre-ordering the X on Verizon because I love Moto's build quality. I had a Razr Maxx for a while and I loved the phone and, of course, the battery life. The only thing that really killed it for me was the locked bootloader. Has there been any word on whether or not it'll be locked on the VZW version? I'm hoping that since Google now owns Moto they'll allow the option to unlock it.
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Verizon Retail and AT&T Retail are locked. All other variants are unlockable, including a Verizon Developer Edition and North American Developer Edition.

mattlgroff said:
Verizon Retail and AT&T Retail are locked. All other variants are unlockable, including a Verizon Developer Edition and North American Developer Edition.
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Ahh that's what I figured would happen. They did the same thing with Razr's.

I saw this option to unlock the bootloader, through Motorola's Developer page. But it seems that if you unlocked the bootloader, you're forgoing the warranty on the device.

hidea said:
I saw this option to unlock the bootloader, through Motorola's Developer page. But it seems that if you unlocked the bootloader, you're forgoing the warranty on the device.
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That's how it is with any device, such as the Galaxy Nexus. I'm sure someone will come up with a program to root/unlock and unroot/lock.

[Q] moto X dev or moto X

What the different with the Moto X dev ed and the moto X you like get from att?If i got the Moto X dev ed will it come with a hotspot software or would i need to make my own for android?
I bait new when it come with things like unlocked phone.i hope someone can help me

perlsyntax said:
What the different with the Moto X dev ed and the moto X you like get from att?If i got the Moto X dev ed will it come with a hotspot software or would i need to make my own for android?
I bait new when it come with things like unlocked phone.i hope someone can help me
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DEV Editions have unlockable bootloaders without voiding the warranty. An unlockable bootloader allows you to flash a recovery not signed by Motorola (like TWRP or CWM) which will allow you to flash root and other .zips.
Non-dev editions on AT&T do not have the ability to unlock the bootloader.

tcrews said:
DEV Editions have unlockable bootloaders without voiding the warranty. An unlockable bootloader allows you to flash a recovery not signed by Motorola (like TWRP or CWM) which will allow you to flash root and other .zips.
Non-dev editions on AT&T do not have the ability to unlock the bootloader.
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So take it i have to make my own hotspot software for the moto X dev and it will not come with a recovery back to?

No, you'll be able to unlock the bootloader, root and install any of the methods that give the hotspot feature.

perlsyntax said:
What the different with the Moto X dev ed and the moto X you like get from att?If i got the Moto X dev ed will it come with a hotspot software or would i need to make my own for android?
I bait new when it come with things like unlocked phone.i hope someone can help me
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I'm going to copy/paste what I typed here ->http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52359376&postcount=13 as it definitely answers your question.
KidJoe said:
im going to repeat what has been said by me and others in the countless threads asking this same question....
The two developer edition moto X's come in black face, woven white back, with silver accents (buttons and ring around camera), and say Developer Edition on back. They only come as 32 gig. When it comes to unlocking the bootloader, you can get the code from moto for free, and it does not void your warranty. Once the bootloader is unlocked you can install 3rd party recovery, root, or install 3rd party roms (by 3rd party, I mean non-moto)
The retail x comes as black face, woven black back, and silver accents, or white face, woven white back, and silver accents. Moto Maker can be customized. These come as 32 or 16 gig.
I'm not going to go into the reasons why, but Moto does NOT give out the bootloader unlock code for the Retail and MotoMaker X for Verizon, ATT and a few other carriers.
When it comes to hardware, the GSM Developer Edition (XT1053) is the same as the T-Mobile or Carrier Unlocked/Unbranded (XT1053) and uses the same ROMs. The big difference is getting the unlock code from Moto for the non-dev edition voids the warranty. When it comes to the (CDMA) Developer Edition X for Verizon, they too are identical hardware, but as said, you can't get the unlock code from Moto unless you have the Dev Ed. (Note: for a brief period, there was a Chinses site selling the codes, but it was shut down and is not presently available. No one knows for sure if it ever will be again)
If they are the exact same price, get the dev edition so you can unlock the bootloader without voiding the warranty.
If you have ATT, know that their X is the XT1058, you can not get its bootloader unlock code from Moto. More importantly, by specs it supports 2 additional LTE bands (originally said to only be used outside the USA, but lately there has been talk that ATT is using one of them in the USA now), but does not support HSPA on AWS (used by t-mobile for non-LTE 4g, but t-mobile has been reframing their 1900 from 2g to HSPA in some areas). So if you have AT&T but got the gsm dev, you'd be at risk if ATT starts fully using one or both of those "other" LTE bands in the USA in the future.
As for why unlock the bootloader, what would the average Joe gain by it? See -> http://mark.cdmaforums.com/MotoX-Locked.html
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As for "hot spot"... There is hotspot software in the X ROM. Since the gsm Dev uses the T-Mobile rom, it might work as is on ATT without modifications. You'll have to look that up. But there are other options to remove any "entitlement" checks (there are threads about it) or you can use WiFi tether when the Dev Edition is rooted.

I like developer. I think developer option has better opportunity than others.

KidJoe said:
I'm going to copy/paste what I typed here ->http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52359376&postcount=13 as it definitely answers your question.
As for "hot spot"... There is hotspot software in the X ROM. Since the gsm Dev uses the T-Mobile rom, it might work as is on ATT without modifications. You'll have to look that up. But there are other options to remove any "entitlement" checks (there are threads about it) or you can use WiFi tether when the Dev Edition is rooted.
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thank for the information

[Q] Recently bought "unlocked" Moto X

And it appears to be a Verizon moto X with towel Pie installed on it. So technically unlocked but I'm a little dubious as to whether I should just return this phone.
I didn't know what towel pie was at the time and didn't know the phone wasn't actually unlocked. The guy I bought it from said that verizon moto X phones were just naturally unlocked. I didn't really find that credible at the time but assumed the phone was nonetheless unlocked now.
After playing with the phone, I find that its not actually fully unlocked but rather has this program running on it that fights the Verizon firmware to effectively make it unlocked.
Here is what I want. I want this permanently rooted without any program running in the background to reroot the phone every time. And I want all the verizon logos off my login screens etc. Is there some sort of clean rom I can write over this thing that just has it unlocked?
I am not using Verizon as a carrier.
What do you think guys. Did I get scammed? I paid 400 USD for this phone. Prompt reply would be appreciated since I think I can still return it if I'm quick about it.
Thank you for your time.

Karmashock said:
And it appears to be a Verizon moto X with towel Pie installed on it. So technically unlocked but I'm a little dubious as to whether I should just return this phone.
I didn't know what towel pie was at the time and didn't know the phone wasn't actually unlocked. The guy I bought it from said that verizon moto X phones were just naturally unlocked. I didn't really find that credible at the time but assumed the phone was nonetheless unlocked now.
After playing with the phone, I find that its not actually fully unlocked but rather has this program running on it that fights the Verizon firmware to effectively make it unlocked.
Here is what I want. I want this permanently rooted without any program running in the background to reroot the phone every time. And I want all the verizon logos off my login screens etc. Is there some sort of clean rom I can write over this thing that just has it unlocked?
I am not using Verizon as a carrier.
What do you think guys. Did I get scammed? I paid 400 USD for this phone. Prompt reply would be appreciated since I think I can still return it if I'm quick about it.
Thank you for your time.
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HAHA. I think there was some mis-communication there.
OK: There are 2 types of "unlocked":
1. SIM-Unlocked: Verizon phones ARE "naturally" SIM-Unlocked, and you can use them on any GSM carrier.
2. Bootloader-Unlocked: ALL Verizon phones (aside from the Developer Edition), can NOT have their bootloader's unlocked. Verizon forbids motoorola from allowing you to unlock your bootloader. "Towel Pie Root" doesn't even come close to the functionality of an unlocked bootloader -- there's simply no comparison. There is absolutely NO WAY to unlock your bootloader, except for one possibility.
See this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/china-middleman-t2751177
It will cost you money -- but if he doesn't have your code you get refunded. If you DO get a code, your bootloader will be permanently unlocked, and for all essence, it will be an unofficial "Developer Edition".
And finally -- in my opinion, $400 is QUITE excessive for what is really just a standard run-of-the-mill Verizion Moto X, with nothing special about it at all. The average selling price is currently $220 on swappa.com
If it were ME, I'd return it and find a bootloader-unlocked VZW Moto X, or the Verizon DEVELOPER edition Moto X.
Just be careful!!! Many Moto X's on swappa say that they are "unlocked", but this refers to SIM-UNLOCKED. Make sure it -explicitly- says "BOOTLOADER UNLOCKED".
Good Luck!!!
EDIT: Now that I see that you are NOT using verizon as your carrier, I would suggest that you buy an XT1053 instead.
The XT1053 has NO carrier branding, and it can be bootloader-unlocked FREE, direct from Motorola's website.
The price is slightly more than the VZW version - XT1053's are currently averaging $260 on swappa. They are ALL Sim-Unlocked, and bootloader-unlockable.
That's FAR less than the $400 you paid......

the sale is still going on on Motorola's website $324.99 brand new Dev Edition unlocked bootloader

samwathegreat said:
HAHA. I think there was some mis-communication there.
OK: There are 2 types of "unlocked":
1. SIM-Unlocked: Verizon phones ARE "naturally" SIM-Unlocked, and you can use them on any GSM carrier.
2. Bootloader-Unlocked: ALL Verizon phones (aside from the Developer Edition), can NOT have their bootloader's unlocked. Verizon forbids motoorola from allowing you to unlock your bootloader. "Towel Pie Root" doesn't even come close to the functionality of an unlocked bootloader -- there's simply no comparison. There is absolutely NO WAY to unlock your bootloader, except for one possibility.
See this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/china-middleman-t2751177
It will cost you money -- but if he doesn't have your code you get refunded. If you DO get a code, your bootloader will be permanently unlocked, and for all essence, it will be an unofficial "Developer Edition".
And finally -- in my opinion, $400 is QUITE excessive for what is really just a standard run-of-the-mill Verizion Moto X, with nothing special about it at all. The average selling price is currently $220 on swappa.com
If it were ME, I'd return it and find a bootloader-unlocked VZW Moto X, or the Verizon DEVELOPER edition Moto X.
Just be careful!!! Many Moto X's on swappa say that they are "unlocked", but this refers to SIM-UNLOCKED. Make sure it -explicitly- says "BOOTLOADER UNLOCKED".
Good Luck!!!
EDIT: Now that I see that you are NOT using verizon as your carrier, I would suggest that you buy an XT1053 instead.
The XT1053 has NO carrier branding, and it can be bootloader-unlocked FREE, direct from Motorola's website.
The price is slightly more than the VZW version - XT1053's are currently averaging $260 on swappa. They are ALL Sim-Unlocked, and bootloader-unlockable.
That's FAR less than the $400 you paid......
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A lot of my issue here is that I'm under some time pressure. My old phone broke and I really just need something to replace it now. So i got what i could get in a short amount of time.
That said, I'm only willing to put up with so much crap. I don't mind over paying a bit. I do mind not getting what I want.
Now, I do believe this is the developer edition. It gives me access to developer tools in the settings and the phone info information seemed to be what developer editions say. Is there a way I can confirm this?
And if it is a Verizon developer edition Moto X, can I properly root it and clean all this verizon garbage off my phone? It seemed like you suggested that if this were a Verizon developer edition Moto X I could still root it?
Please let me know. I'll eat the price hike as a convenience charge but I really can't put up with having it permanently crippled by Verizon.

Karmashock said:
A lot of my issue here is that I'm under some time pressure. My old phone broke and I really just need something to replace it now. So i got what i could get in a short amount of time.
That said, I'm only willing to put up with so much crap. I don't mind over paying a bit. I do mind not getting what I want.
Now, I do believe this is the developer edition. It gives me access to developer tools in the settings and the phone info information seemed to be what developer editions say. Is there a way I can confirm this?
And if it is a Verizon developer edition Moto X, can I properly root it and clean all this verizon garbage off my phone? It seemed like you suggested that if this were a Verizon developer edition Moto X I could still root it?
Please let me know. I'll eat the price hike as a convenience charge but I really can't put up with having it permanently crippled by Verizon.
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Enabling "Developer Options" can be done on any phone. Once again, this also has absolutely nothing to do with rooting or unlocking the bootloader. If it WERE the dev edition, the previous owner would have no reason, whatsoever to install TowelPieRoot. That's just silly to use an "exploit" on a phone with an unlocked bootloader.
TowelPieRoot DOES allow you to root the phone - but that will disappear when you update to 4.4.4 -- the new update patches the exploit used by TPR. After this, it will be permanently un-rootable unless you can unlock the BL.
You are completely out-of-luck, sir. Unless you want to roll the dice and spend another $45 in hopes that the "chinaman" might have an unlock code for you. I gave you the link in my first reply to you.
Unless the phone has a Black front, with a woven white back, it is NOT the unlockable developer edition. Sorry. Anything else is just a regular Moto X.

samwathegreat said:
Enabling "Developer Options" can be done on any phone. Once again, this also has absolutely nothing to do with rooting or unlocking the bootloader. If it WERE the dev edition, the previous owner would have no reason, whatsoever to install TowelPieRoot. That's just silly to use an "exploit" on a phone with an unlocked bootloader.
TowelPieRoot DOES allow you to root the phone - but that will disappear when you update to 4.4.4 -- the new update patches the exploit used by TPR. After this, it will be permanently un-rootable unless you can unlock the BL.
You are completely out-of-luck, sir. Unless you want to roll the dice and spend another $45 in hopes that the "chinaman" might have an unlock code for you. I gave you the link in my first reply to you.
Unless the phone has a Black front, with a woven white back, it is NOT the unlockable developer edition. Sorry. Anything else is just a regular Moto X.
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Thank you for your reply and do not take my stupid questions as a lack of appreciation or respect for your assistence. I'm just trying to understand if I'm mostly screwed or totally screwed.
In the sense of the princess bride... where he was "mostly dead" but not totally dead.
For example, does this work:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45598648
Is there nothing that can root the bootloader on a verizon moto X?
If not, then thank you for helping me. If there is a way... I might be willing to try it.

Karmashock said:
Thank you for your reply and do not take my stupid questions as a lack of appreciation or respect for your assistence. I'm just trying to understand if I'm mostly screwed or totally screwed.
In the sense of the princess bride... where he was "mostly dead" but not totally dead.
For example, does this work:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45598648
Is there nothing that can root the bootloader on a verizon moto X?
If not, then thank you for helping me. If there is a way... I might be willing to try it.
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I don't think you are understanding.....
There is no such thing as "rooting the bootloader".
Your bootloader is either unlocked, or it isn't.
There are some "Exploits" that the exploited vulnerabilities in android and allowed you to "root" or "disable write protection", but none of them are permanent solutions. Since they are "Exploits", they can be patched by future updates. They don't "root the bootloader" - they "root the android OS".
ALL exploits, including the one you have linked above HAVE BEEN PATCHED. The only working exploit is TowelPieRoot -- but it does NOT disable write protection. It isn't very useful, and it is not permanent. As I previously told you, once you update to 4.4.4 your phone will be PERMANENTLY un-rootable. Period.
The only way to gain "permanent root and write-protection disable" is to unlock the bootloader. You can NOT unlock the bootloader on a VZW device. Period. Not unless it is a Dev Edition, OR you are able to obtain a bootloader unlock-code from the china middleman that I linked you to before.
There are NO EXCEPTIONS. As I already told you, you are 100% out-of-luck, UNLESS your phone has a black front and woven white back, OR you are able to unlock through the middleman at a cost of $45. There is NO OTHER WAY. None.
Please trust me - I know what I'm talking about 100%. I've only given you the facts. Now you must choose what to do with these facts.

if you can get your money back get your money back moto will FedEx you the brand new dev edition for $324.99 you will have it in 3 or 4 days probably until then get on Craigslist buy a hundred dollar droid to use until then and sell it afterwords

samwathegreat said:
I don't think you are understanding.....
There is no such thing as "rooting the bootloader".
Your bootloader is either unlocked, or it isn't.
There are some "Exploits" that the exploited vulnerabilities in android and allowed you to "root" or "disable write protection", but none of them are permanent solutions. Since they are "Exploits", they can be patched by future updates. They don't "root the bootloader" - they "root the android OS".
ALL exploits, including the one you have linked above HAVE BEEN PATCHED. The only working exploit is TowelPieRoot -- but it does NOT disable write protection. It isn't very useful, and it is not permanent. As I previously told you, once you update to 4.4.4 your phone will be PERMANENTLY un-rootable. Period.
The only way to gain "permanent root and write-protection disable" is to unlock the bootloader. You can NOT unlock the bootloader on a VZW device. Period. Not unless it is a Dev Edition, OR you are able to obtain a bootloader unlock-code from the china middleman that I linked you to before.
There are NO EXCEPTIONS. As I already told you, you are 100% out-of-luck, UNLESS your phone has a black front and woven white back, OR you are able to unlock through the middleman at a cost of $45. There is NO OTHER WAY. None.
Please trust me - I know what I'm talking about 100%. I've only given you the facts. Now you must choose what to do with these facts.
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*sigh* Oh well.
Thank you. I'll just get the cheapest phone I can find at the store and get my money back for this one.

well im gonna order the new verizon developer edition for 324.99 than and unlock the bootloader and wipe all the verizon crap off it and permanently root it

Karmashock said:
And it appears to be a Verizon moto X with towel Pie installed on it. So technically unlocked but I'm a little dubious as to whether I should just return this phone..
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A couple of questions I haven't seen asked...
On the phone go to App Drawer -> Settings -> About phone... What is listed as the SYSTEM VERSION.
Next, what does the BACK of the phone look like or say? Does it have the Verizon logo on it? Does it have the words Developer Edition on the back? Does it have SMALL HARD TO READ Fine print at the bottom that says a model number? Or did it come with the original box that has the IMEI and Model on it? (the model would be XT1060, XT1053, XT1058, etc)
What carrier are you intending to use it with?
Power off the phone, then press the power and volume down buttons simultaneously NOTE: you may need to have the USB cable disconnected first. This will bring you into the AP Fastboot Flash Mode screen (aka bootloader or fastboot mode). It will say DEVICE IS... unlocked or locked. Which is it?
I am asking these questions to know 1. What model X you have, 2. if it is bootloader unlocked, and 3 what rom version is on there.
That will help us guide you further.
@samwathegreat already did a great job explaining Boot Loader Unlock vs SIM Unlock. I've got a long and deeper explaination on bootloader unlocking and effects on rooting at -> http://mark.cdmaforums.com/MotoX-Locked.html It does need to be updated to cover rooting on 4.4.4 with a LOCKED bootloader is not possible.
In short, if your answers to my questions reveal you have a Verizon X that is not a developer edition phone, then the only way to unlock the bootloader is if you can buy a code from the China Middle Man. Unlocking the bootloader is essential these days if you want a full and working ROOT solution.
If you have a Verizon X that you are trying to use on T-Mobile, or ATT, then you might be OK as long as you don't need/want to root it, and are fine with running the stock Verizon ROM. You just might have some limits too (like not be being able to do Voice and LTE data at the same time)
Oh, but to get rid of some of the Verizon bloat, you will need to root it and delete the APK's which would impact future OTAs, or use something like Titanium Backup to freeze them. Both options need you to be rooted.
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Karmashock said:
*sigh* Oh well.
Thank you. I'll just get the cheapest phone I can find at the store and get my money back for this one.
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OK... just saw this.. so never mind what I just posted. Good luck.
If you really want an X, Let us know what carrier, and I would still recommend a Dev Edition, either the GSM or the VZW version depending on your carrier, especially while they stay on sale for $325.99. Any non-contract phone you can get is going to be near that cost, or above.

Moto Maker Edition vs. Developer Edition vs. Pure Edition...

Whats the difference... my Verizon rep is providing pricing and options for the regular edition and the "Moto Maker Edition", but on the Motorola website all I see is the "Developer Edition" and in other news stories I see "Pure Edition"... whats the difference? Purely symantics for the same unlocked bootloader version of the Moto X 2014?
- BF

bkfitz said:
Whats the difference... my Verizon rep is providing pricing and options for the regular edition and the "Moto Maker Edition", but on the Motorola website all I see is the "Developer Edition" and in other news stories I see "Pure Edition"... whats the difference? Purely symantics for the same unlocked bootloader version of the Moto X 2014?
- BF
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Moto 2013 - dev edition had an unlockable bootloader. you could get a version for at&t/tmobile or for verizon
Moto 2014 - pure edition has an unlockable bootloader and no carrier branding or apps. you can only get this for at&t/tmobile at full retail price through motorola's moto maker, and you can customize the colors and storage
Moto maker - lets you customize the design of your moto x (2013 and 2014). can not be used on the 2013 dev editions
there's some confusion here because you can use moto maker to make a pure edition moto x. however the important thing to know on verizon is you have 2 options: a preconfigured color & storage straight from verizon, or a customized version through moto maker. however you cannot get a pure edition on verizon

bkfitz said:
Whats the difference... my Verizon rep is providing pricing and options for the regular edition and the "Moto Maker Edition", but on the Motorola website all I see is the "Developer Edition" and in other news stories I see "Pure Edition"... whats the difference? Purely symantics for the same unlocked bootloader version of the Moto X 2014?
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Moto Maker is the version where you get to customize it and select the colors you want. If you get this option and use either AT&T or VZW the bootloader will be locked down and not available to be unlocked unless someone comes up with a method to do so.
Pure Edition is a GSM only version (works on T-Mobile and AT&T) and it is sim unlocked as well as bootloader unlockable (the new GSM Dev edition)
Developer Edition is only available on the old Moto X, that was the version you have to pay full price for just like the current Pure, but the old Moto X had a VZW Dev Edition.

Excellent... thx. I guess I'll be getting the standard VZW one and then hoping "someone comes up with a method to do so"
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Moto Maker is the version where you get to customize it and select the colors you want. If you get this option and use either AT&T or VZW the bootloader will be locked down and not available to be unlocked unless someone comes up with a method to do so.
Pure Edition is a GSM only version (works on T-Mobile and AT&T) and it is sim unlocked as well as bootloader unlockable (the new GSM Dev edition)
Developer Edition is only available on the old Moto X, that was the version you have to pay full price for just like the current Pure, but the old Moto X had a VZW Dev Edition.
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bkfitz said:
Excellent... thx. I guess I'll be getting the standard VZW one and then hoping "someone comes up with a method to do so"
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As of right now, if you order a Verizon Moto X, you will be getting last years. They don't have an officially announced model yet (and I am speculating they could just release the new Droid (that looks really cool) and not an X).

My Verizon rep (we're Gov) definitely sent me pricing info on the "New Moto X - 5.2" etc... when I asked him yesterday AM he hadn't heard anything yet... but after doing some digging he was able to provide pricing etc this morning....
Note10.1Dude said:
As of right now, if you order a Verizon Moto X, you will be getting last years. They don't have an officially announced model yet (and I am speculating they could just release the new Droid (that looks really cool) and not an X).
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I'm a little bit confused. I want a moto x with all the moto apps like moto assist, voice control and active display. If I want to root the device and install xposed framework. Which one do I have to buy? I'm living in Germany and when I go to moto maker there is nothing I can't choose among different versions, except in storage size and colour.

grossermanitu said:
I'm a little bit confused. I want a moto x with all the moto apps like moto assist, voice control and active display. If I want to root the device and install xposed framework. Which one do I have to buy? I'm living in Germany and when I go to moto maker there is nothing I can't choose among different versions, except in storage size and colour.
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All of this model discussion is for US models. There should be just one EU model (that I am aware of) that should work with all common bands in the EU and have the software of the Pure edition. The issue here is the US mobile industry is a mess and controlled by the mobile networks, making moving between providers (or traveling out of the US) a pain in the neck.

Unless your on T-Mobile in which case you can go overseas no problem. Love T-Mobile!

Singapore Use
Hi,
I live in Singapore. I just wanted to check that the pure edition should work here if I can get it shipped to me?
I know the LTE is not working for now but it should work on HSPA+ I think.
Will it still get the updates from Motorola/Google or are those USA specific?
Thanks a lot.
Santino

[Q] VZW Moto X 1060 -- no hackee?

I liked Cyan on my old Droid X but it looks like from a quick glance at the Guides and Tips page that I won't be able to even do a Clockwork Recovery let alone a new modded OS like Cyanogenmod.
Did I read that right? Assuming so, is there anything evil I can do to this phone?

You are on Verizon, so your bootloader can't be unlocked at the Moto site. You can try Sunshine for $25. That's your only hope.
And I'll ask your question be moved to the Q&A section. ?

Thx. How odd they'd lock it then charge $25 to unlock it-- that seems so Apple-esque. I bought this phone used, so I'm unlikely to throw much more money at it, but it's nice to have the option.
Shux.

JZLxxx said:
Thx. How odd they'd lock it then charge $25 to unlock it-- that seems so Apple-esque. I bought this phone used, so I'm unlikely to throw much more money at it, but it's nice to have the option.
Shux.
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I think you misunderstand. The $25 unlock is a third-party exploit developed by JCase and a number of other talented developers. If you are on VZW, that is the only way to unlock, but it is far from official. Plus, it rarely works on 4.4.4 for the Moto X. I think most people would be ok if VZW offered a reasonable priced paid unlock, but I doubt we ever see that.

What did you expect after buying a locked phone on Verizon? If you value rooting, look into buying phones with easily unlockable bootloaders. Folks are lucky to have sunshine as it is
Sent from my XT1060

Ah, I didn't realize it was a 3rd party thing.
rocketsaucev2 said:
What did you expect after buying a locked phone on Verizon? If you value rooting, look into buying phones with easily unlockable bootloaders. Folks are lucky to have sunshine as it is
Sent from my XT1060
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I didn't research it much, but I was a little confuzzled by a webpage that led me to think I could (A person needs 10 posts to insert a link?). I was able to put Cyan on my VZW Droid X, e.g.
Was that supposed to be helpful?

JZLxxx said:
I didn't research it much, but I was a little confuzzled by a webpage that led me to think I could (A person needs 10 posts to insert a link?). I was able to put Cyan on my VZW Droid X, e.g.
Was that supposed to be helpful?
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A little history...
The Verizon XT1060 has always shipped with a locked bootloader. This prevents flashing ROMs or Parts (like custom recovery) from being flashed to the phone. Only Roms signed by Moto and intended for that model and carrier can be flashed.
A Developer Edition For Verizon Moto X was available from Moto's web site only. For that device, Moto would give out the bootloader unlock code. Once unlocked, you could flash 3rd party roms and parts. With the Dev Edition, you did not void your warranty while doing this.
Verizon stores and Moto's Moto Maker web site also sold the X for Verizon, but for these not Developer Editions, you could NOT get the BootLoader Unlock code.
Later, someone was able to gain access to a database of IMEI numbers and their BootLoader Unlock codes, even for Verizon Non-Dev Editions and started selling them via a China web site, and later Middle Man. While it went away for a little over a month, it later came back. It has recently shut down again.
JCASE and others had found a vulnerability they could exploit to unlock the bootloader, no unlock code needed. Its called Sunshine. But it only works on phones which haven't even been upgraded to 4.4.4.
So depending on what you read, it could be "dated" and written at a time where you could have purchased the bootloader unlock code from the China Website or Middleman.