[Q] A few worries about rooting - 7" Kindle Fire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

First off I would like to say hello to everyone. I have been looking into rooting my kindle for a while now and have seen a few tutorials for doing so such as this one:
I am worried about following this tutorial as my kindle does not look like the one in the video. I found the video through these forums (here) and it is claimed to be for KindleFireHD 7" which is what I have however in the video the menus are different and he has a webcam (mine does not). Will the method described in the video above work for my device?

yyamiyyugi said:
First off I would like to say hello to everyone. I have been looking into rooting my kindle for a while now and have seen a few tutorials for doing so such as this one:
I am worried about following this tutorial as my kindle does not look like the one in the video. I found the video through these forums (here) and it is claimed to be for KindleFireHD 7" which is what I have however in the video the menus are different and he has a webcam (mine does not). Will the method described in the video above work for my device?
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No,you have the 2013 Kindle(Soho). For rooting it go to http://kfsowi.com/

Thank you for the info (I tried quoting but the link prevented me)

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Optimum app for kindle fire

Hi All,
Seems like optimum (cablevision) has a app for kindle fire, that can stream cable tv, similar to the app they have for the iphone. It is available for the kindle fire on Amazon. Can someone get the apk, see if the app can be ported to android in general ?
-Omkar
omkar62 said:
Hi All,
Seems like optimum (cablevision) has a app for kindle fire, that can stream cable tv, similar to the app they have for the iphone. It is available for the kindle fire on Amazon. Can someone get the apk, see if the app can be ported to android in general ?
-Omkar
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anyone?
PC Jona said:
anyone?
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Ok .. found the link https://www.dropbox.com/s/c7ld876le6j5pqy/com.optimum.rdvr.mobile-1.apk
thanks to the kind soul on the Kindle fire forum
App installs fine, and then once I login I get an unsupported device message
can someone please look at this and suggest a fix ? I think getting the right build fingerprint spoof would resolve the issues ??
-Omkar
Works great on my HTC EVO View
This APK works fine on my HTC EVO View 7" tablet.
Correction:
Now I am getting the dialog pop-up saying: "This Application is not supported in this device"
Very strange, since it did work at first and I was watching Two and a half Men.
I also installed it on a Samsung Tab 7 with the same result.
I also did see that the app was asking for superuser permissions.
Hard to believe that it needs a rooted device.
Hopefully someone can shed some light on this.
Addition:
I cleared the data and logged in again, accepting the Terms & Conditions etc.
Then I am good to go again. Wonder for how long?
(This is on the HTC).
omkar62 said:
Ok .. found the link https://www.dropbox.com/s/c7ld876le6j5pqy/com.optimum.rdvr.mobile-1.apk
thanks to the kind soul on the Kindle fire forum
App installs fine, and then once I login I get an unsupported device message
can someone please look at this and suggest a fix ? I think getting the right build fingerprint spoof would resolve the issues ??
-Omkar
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ok got this to work on the gtablet ... however had to downgrade from ICS to froyo (beastly-clemsyn) ... same behavior as mentioned in the post above. Need to clear data before every login
There is another discussion going on here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1785945
seems like the app rejects the device if certain build.prop parameters do not match that of the kindle fire
omkar62 said:
Hi All,
Seems like optimum (cablevision) has a app for kindle fire, that can stream cable tv, similar to the app they have for the iphone. It is available for the kindle fire on Amazon. Can someone get the apk, see if the app can be ported to android in general ?
-Omkar
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Got it to work on my gtablet, which is running JB (ParanoidAndroid for gtabet: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1966544)
I updated the following in build.prop :
ro.product.brand=Amazon
ro.product.name=Kindle Fire
ro.product.device=Kindle
ro.product.manufacturer=Amazon
ro.build.product=tate

[Q] Probably just bricked my KFHD7, would like to know where I went wrong.

I won a KFHD7 tonight and thought this could be a fun evening project. Eh not so much.
My device was 7.31.
I started out by rooting the device and that seemed to go find with Bin4ry's v28. Now I want to get Jellybean on it. I have seen that the CM10.1 seems to run really well. So doing research on doing this I kept finding different instructions for different versions. So it came down to me finding out that I need a ROM manager and a bootloader. First I tried to look at getting Clockwork Recovery. I read a tutorial saying I needed to get google play store installed. So I followed instructions on that. However when it came time to sign in, that it kept failing. Weird, I had network connectivity but it kept saying I didn't. I know my user/pass was fine too. So I gave up on that. Next I found the apk file and copied it over and use ES file to install it. that seemed to work pretty good until I launched the app and I couldn't do anything because it didn't recognize my device. In doing that I learned a little more so went on to try some other things. Now I saw on a video that FIREFIREFIRE was the way to go. So I started looking that direction with TWRP. I started following http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2128848, following it step by step. I got to step 4.5 and it said waiting on device. Couldn't get past that. Finally I followed these instructions: http://finditmore.info/2012/09/19/install-team-win-recovery-project-kindle-fire/ I replaced the file name of the TWRP from the one I downloaded from the previous steps. After I rebooted from this, I was done. The device doesn't power back up.
My issue is I was bouncing all over the place I think. It also seemed that 7.31 caused some issue in the instructions as well. I am going to get this replaced, is there a 7.31 guide to follow or should I just wait for one? Why wouldn't anything I tried work to the end, I mean even something like the google play store install. Could that be a 7.31 issue?
While I am not a developer, I have the highest respect for what devs do and i think it is amazing. I have 15 years of experience in the computer industry, *nix, Cisco, Brocade, OSX, Windows. But this stuff is just kicking my tail. Any help is appreciated.
Thank you
Mark
You had a lot of issues. I'll try to explain:
1. "FIREFIREFIRE" isn't made for the Kindle Fire HD, it's for the 2nd gen (or 1st?) Kindle Fire (they're two different devices).
2. You installed the wrong version of TWRP made for the original Kindle Fire (notice how in that post there's no "HD"). The devices in this family don't have similar bootloaders, so you bricked your tablet.
3. Because your problem was that previous step, there was nothing involving the 7.3.1 bootloader, because you just flashed the wrong device to begin with. In your case, you should've went into the 7" development forum, read Hashcode's 2nd-Bootloader thread, installed the 2nd-bootloader and TWRP, and flashed CM10.1.
Note that the TWRP in Hashcode's thread is his own port of the recovery. Flashing official versions of TWRP will not work, it has to be ported by Hashcode.
As the previous post said the tools you used are the problem. You have flashed a new bootloader over the original and since the bootloader on these new devices are signed that is not good. There is nothing you can do, atleast at this point, to fix this.
But just to clarify in case someone else reads this thread, the tools the op used are meant for the original kindle fire(1st gen). The same thing will happen if you try to use those tools with any of the three 2nd gen devices: Kindle fire, Kindle Fire HD 7, and Kindle Fire HD 8.9
Next time, take your time to read through everything. I realize that you must have been anxious to get rid of the awful stock launcher/rom, so I understand your impulse. I know next to nothing about android development, but I find that the tutorials are often complete and comprehensive. Also, this community is very eager to help users like me. You can always ask for help. I don't mean to lecture...but apparently I just did.
So, can he restore it with a factory cable?
You can always try sending it back to Amazon. Tell them about how you were charging it on your computer, when it got struck by lightning. You later learned that the computer had a virus at the time. The combination of the shock and the scattered data fragments caused the kindle to become self aware. When you realized that it would inevitably try to take over the world, you decided that it must be stopped. The only solution was to trick the kindle into initiating its own self-destruct sequence. The kindle may never work again, but you just saved the world! I don't think they'll believe you if you tell them it stopped charging for no reason....
Yep, definitely was anxious.
It must be the FIREFIREFIRE that is the issue. The TWRP that was the kfhd7-twrp-2.4.4.0-recovery.img. In following the steps in the Introducing: Kindle Fire 2nd-bootloader + TWRP 2.4.4.0 for the Kindle Fire HD 7 guide, at step 4.5, why would the fastboot just sit there and say waiting for device? It ran through steps 1-4 just fine so there was connectivity. Was it the stuff I did prior or do I NEED that special cable?
Now for a really dumb question, but I need to be sure. How should I have rooted the system? Was the Bin4ry v28 utility the way to do it? Or should I have used something else?
Thank you very much for the help!
I am sure everyone has been waiting with baited breath
I was able to exchange it at my local best buy. Got a new one and followed ONE guide and knew a little more of what to pay attention to. Thank you very much for your help. Especially seokhun for the PM.
A very BIG thank you to the developers that hack this stuff up and make this available to us. I really appreciate it.
EmbraceNext said:
I am sure everyone has been waiting with baited breath
I was able to exchange it at my local best buy. Got a new one and followed ONE guide and knew a little more of what to pay attention to. Thank you very much for your help. Especially seokhun for the PM.
A very BIG thank you to the developers that hack this stuff up and make this available to us. I really appreciate it.
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Not be too brutal but for all the people trying to install CM on their KF HD device, that tablet already exists. It's called Nexus 7 and it's pretty awesome. If you hate the Kindle interface and don't want it then I just don't see the point in buying KF device in the first place.
Android Cowboy said:
Not be too brutal but for all the people trying to install CM on their KF HD device, that tablet already exists. It's called Nexus 7 and it's pretty awesome. If you hate the Kindle interface and don't want it then I just don't see the point in buying KF device in the first place.
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Oh, not brutal at all. I understand. The only reason I have the Kindle HD 7 is because I won it at a Cisco event. So I wanted to see if I could do it or how it's done. Nothing more. Then since I killed the first one, I wasn't going to let it beat me so had to weasel my way around to get it replaced and try again. The Kindle is now set back to the Kindle UI and I gave it to my wife as a mother's day present and she absolutely loves it. I did keep it rooted and install the google apps/chrome so she has a bit more freedom.
I wanted hdmi out, and a better quality built device that my kids would not kill if you can find me the nexus seven with that then your statement makes sense....otherwise it was a troll not to be brutal ....we picked this device because we saw something in it one way or another...I picked it because it was the best fit for my family and yes if we could get the kindle app to read to me we would be using cm10
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[Q] Generation Confusion

I hope that I have read sufficiently to determine that this question has not been addressed before. If I missed it please forgive.
I have no intentions of rooting or in anyway modifying my Kindle Fire HD 7". From what I have read I have a 2nd Gen - as I read here. h**ps://developer.amazon.com/appsandservices/solutions/devices/kindle-fire/specifications/01-device-and-feature-specifications I assumed that HD 1st Gen was left out for a reason. I have a camera, on/off. volume, and headphone plug are all on the top, HDMI/USB on right, and camera on left when unit is being held in portrait. Firmware 7.4.9, serial D025 A0A238221F7, and the model number given when I purchased online was X43Z60 - can't figure out where they found that number. I have seen sales that show that model as 3rd, camera in both 2nd and 3rd, So, what do I have? Amazon says 1st, but I cannot find specs for a 1st anywhere.
I am happy with what I have ... whatever it is. But what is it?
dferron said:
I hope that I have read sufficiently to determine that this question has not been addressed before. If I missed it please forgive.
I have no intentions of rooting or in anyway modifying my Kindle Fire HD 7". From what I have read I have a 2nd Gen - as I read here. h**ps://developer.amazon.com/appsandservices/solutions/devices/kindle-fire/specifications/01-device-and-feature-specifications I assumed that HD 1st Gen was left out for a reason. I have a camera, on/off. volume, and headphone plug are all on the top, HDMI/USB on right, and camera on left when unit is being held in portrait. Firmware 7.4.9, serial D025 A0A238221F7, and the model number given when I purchased online was X43Z60 - can't figure out where they found that number. I have seen sales that show that model as 3rd, camera in both 2nd and 3rd, So, what do I have? Amazon says 1st, but I cannot find specs for a 1st anywhere.
I am happy with what I have ... whatever it is. But what is it?
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You have a 7" Kindle Fire HD 2012 model,codename "tate".
Still Confused
SafinWasi said:
You have a 7" Kindle Fire HD 2012 model,codename "tate".
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Thank you for your kindness is answering my previous questions.
I am not a developer, so don't know what to do with the PHP code provided. SEE EDIT
I found specs on 2nd Gen, but have found nothing for 1st.
Did you get the info from the serial?
What does the X43Z60 you?
EDIT:: I guess I tried to read too much into the PHP - or not - I get it now .
I found and installed a couple of SysInfo type apps in the Store and found this bit of info: android.os.Build.MODEL KFTT. In my original post the website referenced shows this build associated with HD 2nd Gen. What I don't know is, is this also the same for the 1st Gen?
I suppose in the end it really doesn't matter EXCEPT I am one of those "inquiring minds want to know". I hope that this is an OK thing here.
The other thing that makes me think that I have a 1st Gen is the size 7.6 x 5.4 and from what I have found is that the 2nd is 7.6 x 5.0. Is this info correct?
Thanks again to all ...

Help with Kindle Fire 7" (2nd Gen) Lockscreen/Launcher/Root

I got my gf a Kindle Fire HD 7". It only has a front camera which appears to be a 2nd gen according to the Amazon chart. I'm going through the forums here and it is just a mess.
Basically she'd like to just change the lockscreen and maybe the launcher. I am very capable but getting frustrated trying to find stuff for my specific device. I read about a special cable. Is it still required or are there ways to do change the stuff without root and heavy altering?
I tried a few launchers but it just force closes. Any help would be awesome.
Bump? Any help, ie thread links, would be awesome.
The naming scheme of these and they way they are all thrown into 1 forum is super complicated to figure out what process works for which model. This might be a stupid question but some answers would be appreciated.

HD7 4th Gen w. 5.1.2 - easiest way to get Google Play store only, no other tweaks

I originally posted this in the Fire HD forum, but was told the most up to date procedure was probably here. Is that true?
My situation is this. My main Fire is a Fire 5th Gen (the $49 one), and I got comfortable with using it JUST with Google Play installed and no other tweaks. I used the Rootjunky Supertool program and ADB to do that under 5.1.1.
I just got, as a secondary device, a used HD7 4th Gen. The previous owner must have had it upgrade to 5.1.2 recently, because that's what it came with. I'm aware that there are (probably even more reliable that with the 5th Gen) ways to back-apply FireOS4 and get the thing rooted without bricking it, but... at this point I'm not ready for that. Like with my Gen5 I just want Google Play on it.
What I don't know is if the current tools around to do that (like the Supertool) will WORK with an HD7 4th Gen and 5.1.2. I've been told in a general sort of manner that the procedure just to get a non-rooted Play store install should be "the same" as for the 5th Gen device, but that doesn't say to me that the Supertool would work. Or does it (since it just says "5th Generation" on it's descriptions)? And if not, what other took or script does?
I will say I already have Developer Mode and ADB access turned on, and even have a copy of ES File Manager from the Amazon Store on the HD7-4thGen, suspecting that one or both of those would come in handy. So what's next?
Thanks!
I just purchased a Fire that came preloaded with 5.1.2. I can confirm SuperTool installed Google Apps just fine. Google prompted me to upgrade the services framework which worked without a hitch. I've not tried anything else yet such as removing ads, and we already know root doesn't work in 5.1.2 yet.
Some Play Store apps may not work, or may be quirky if they do but that is par for the course with Amazon devices that haven't been reimaged to a "real" Android OS.
snark.shark said:
I originally posted this in the Fire HD forum, but was told the most up to date procedure was probably here. Is that true?
My situation is this. My main Fire is a Fire 5th Gen (the $49 one), and I got comfortable with using it JUST with Google Play installed and no other tweaks. I used the Rootjunky Supertool program and ADB to do that under 5.1.1.
I just got, as a secondary device, a used HD7 4th Gen. The previous owner must have had it upgrade to 5.1.2 recently, because that's what it came with. I'm aware that there are (probably even more reliable that with the 5th Gen) ways to back-apply FireOS4 and get the thing rooted without bricking it, but... at this point I'm not ready for that. Like with my Gen5 I just want Google Play on it.
What I don't know is if the current tools around to do that (like the Supertool) will WORK with an HD7 4th Gen and 5.1.2. I've been told in a general sort of manner that the procedure just to get a non-rooted Play store install should be "the same" as for the 5th Gen device, but that doesn't say to me that the Supertool would work. Or does it (since it just says "5th Generation" on it's descriptions)? And if not, what other took or script does?
I will say I already have Developer Mode and ADB access turned on, and even have a copy of ES File Manager from the Amazon Store on the HD7-4thGen, suspecting that one or both of those would come in handy. So what's next?
Thanks!
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I don't think anyone here is going to stick their neck out to answer an off-topic question. If you want to know if it works try it! Otherwise the Fire HD forum is your best resource.
Davey126 said:
I don't think anyone here is going to stick their neck out to answer an off-topic question. If you want to know if it works try it! Otherwise the Fire HD forum is your best resource.
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Funny how that works, when someone there used virtually the identical wording to point me HERE:
bibikalka said:
Your best bet is to go to the Gen 5 XDA forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire
The devices are literally identical if you want rootless GAPPS. So look for what's offered there.
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Funny how that works, when someone there used virtually the identical wording to point me HERE:
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- devices are not "literally identical" - not even close
- HD 7 is clearly off-topic for this forum
Davey126 said:
- devices are not "literally identical" - not even close
- HD 7 is clearly off-topic for this forum
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I went back there and asked again, so we'll see what happens.
It boggles my mind that nobody there would have tested installing Play on one of the 4thGen devices (without all of the rooting shenanigans I mean). But that seems to be what's being implied--literally nobody knows if it works.
Heck, looking around here I'm not sure if anyone knows if it works still under 5.1.2 with the 5th Gen device (which I also have). My 5th Gen updated 5.1.1 to 5.1.2 (because I hadn't blocked OTA updates--and just had Play installed and no root). Play still worked after the update, but it's really got me curious if the Rootjunky tool even still works under 5.1.2 (aside from the rooting stuff, which I know doesn't).
EDIT - sorry, just saw zerbey's post up there. I'm assuming zerbey means with a 5th Gen device, so that's answered. Since my 5th Gen already had Play from 5.1.1 it was just curiosity driving that question either (although it also occurred to me it might be nice to know in case there is ever a reason to reinstall Play). As for the 4th Gen device, was there ever even an equivalent to the supertool (even if less automated)? That's part of what I've been trying to find out, and I'm supposing why that person pointed me to this forum. But as I've said I've gone back there and asked again.
snark.shark said:
I went back there and asked again, so we'll see what happens.
It boggles my mind that nobody there would have tested installing Play on one of the 4thGen devices (without all of the rooting shenanigans I mean). But that seems to be what's being implied--literally nobody knows if it works.
Heck, looking around here I'm not sure if anyone knows if it works still under 5.1.2 with the 5th Gen device (which I also have). My 5th Gen updated 5.1.1 to 5.1.2 (because I hadn't blocked OTA updates--and just had Play installed and no root). Play still worked after the update, but it's really got me curious if the Rootjunky tool even still works under 5.1.2 (aside from the rooting stuff, which I know doesn't).
EDIT - sorry, just saw zerbey's post up there. I'm assuming zerbey means with a 5th Gen device, so that's answered. Since my 5th Gen already had Play from 5.1.1 it was just curiosity driving that question either (although it also occurred to me it might be nice to know in case there is ever a reason to reinstall Play). As for the 4th Gen device, was there ever even an equivalent to the supertool (even if less automated)? That's part of what I've been trying to find out, and I'm supposing why that person pointed me to this forum. But as I've said I've gone back there and asked again.
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In general FireOS v4 and Google Play Services don't play nice together. The combo can be made to work, sort of, but each refresh seems to bring new challenges. Blocking component updates is frustrating as apps are increasingly dependent on current/recent versions of Play Services. FireOS v5 appears to be more accommodating.
Davey126 said:
In general FireOS v4 and Google Play Services don't play nice together. The combo can be made to work, sort of, but each refresh seems to bring new challenges. Blocking component updates is frustrating as apps are increasingly dependent on current/recent versions of Play Services. FireOS v5 appears to be more accommodating.
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I'm not talking about FireOS4. I'm talking about the 4th Gen device (HD7-Gen4) with 5.1.2 on it, and wanting just Play Store without root. Again, I know the primary place to ask about that is the HD forum, but because of a bum answer there that insisted that someone here might know the specific tools better (because they tend to root everything in that forum by default, I guess, and seem to think the procedure to add Play should be the same), that's how this got posted here.
Actually I just had an answer in the other forum that again insisted nobody there knows squat about adding Play to the HD7 without rooting, so... I guess I'm likely stuck rooting the damn thing (which also means backapplying FireOS4--the part that scares me).
snark.shark said:
I'm not talking about FireOS4. I'm talking about the 4th Gen device (HD7-Gen4) with 5.1.2 on it, and wanting just Play Store without root. Again, I know the primary place to ask about that is the HD forum, but because of a bum answer there that insisted that someone here might know the specific tools better (because they tend to root everything in that forum by default, I guess, and seem to think the procedure to add Play should be the same), that's how this got posted here.
Actually I just had an answer in the other forum that again insisted nobody there knows squat about adding Play to the HD7 without rooting, so... I guess I'm likely stuck rooting the damn thing (which also means backapplying FireOS4--the part that scares me).
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I forgot 4th gen devices were upgraded to FireOS 5. A consequence of trying to provide assistance for another device type that is not typically discussed in a 5th gen device forum. I hang my head in shame for misunderstanding your off-topic question.
snark.shark said:
I'm not talking about FireOS4. I'm talking about the 4th Gen device (HD7-Gen4) with 5.1.2 on it, and wanting just Play Store without root. Again, I know the primary place to ask about that is the HD forum, but because of a bum answer there that insisted that someone here might know the specific tools better (because they tend to root everything in that forum by default, I guess, and seem to think the procedure to add Play should be the same), that's how this got posted here.
Actually I just had an answer in the other forum that again insisted nobody there knows squat about adding Play to the HD7 without rooting, so... I guess I'm likely stuck rooting the damn thing (which also means backapplying FireOS4--the part that scares me).
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-hd/general/how-to-google-play-store-root-fast-easy-t3226960
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