So I bought a Neo and played around with it on my work Note 3. It has fair amount of apps. Well today I bought a S5 Active. I moved my Neo over to it (requires reseting it.) and got gear manager installed. Surprise to me... It seems even though things like the clock face is an app that runs on the phone if the developer doesn't select that it works with a phone you can't use it. Which should be a simple change for most things however it doesn't seem that developers update their Samsung store apps. For the S5 active there are only a handful of apps even though I am sure 99% all the apps would work if the dev would click the "it works with an s5 active"
After dealing with Samsung support (or the lack of it) I tried to get on the Samsung app store webpage. It seems they are having server errors so it was been working like crap. I was kind of able to get contacts for a couple of the app dev's to ask that they update their app to work with the S5 active. Samsung app store doesn't provide contact information unless the dev adds it. One of the devs linked to his google+ page. Which showed he is working to get the same app with improvements to work on android wear.
This got me thinking. Who is going to mess with this crappy half baked Samsung store with Google coming out with Wear? I'd guess we won't see anyone making new Apps for the tizen watches, they don't even update it to work with new phones it will run on with no changes...
I just got the Neo and I am on the fence of returning it. I figured I could get by with apps I had on the Note 3 until someone got a Wear rom for it. With the lack of apps when paired with the s5 I am not impressed at all and after my research today I am liking it less. I got it over the wear because it was only 150bucks vs 225, it has a speaker and IR blaster and Android wear is lacking in features (sure to change in 6 months to a year). I figured by the time wear got up to speed there would be a rom. Thinking about it some I am doubtful, I think the speaker and IR blaster (camera if it is a gear 2) will prevent it from ever happening. None of the wear watches have these so I'd guess there isn't low level support.
I guess I need to return it and wait for the 360 come out.
I had the same problem with my active. I modified the build prop to identify my device as a regular s5 and have all the apps again.
Root required?
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Root required?
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yeah
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yeah
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What did you use as your spoofed device?
WiFivomFranMan said:
What did you use as your spoofed device?
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I changed the ro.product.model line from SM-G870A to SM-G900A
I'm definitely going to sell my Neo and wait for the Moto360. I like the Neo fine, but am getting sick to death of having to run stock based ROMs. I will miss some features of the G2, but damn that 360 looks beautiful and development should be great
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I'm definitely going to sell my Neo and wait for the Moto360. I like the Neo fine, but am getting sick to death of having to run stock based ROMs. I will miss some features of the G2, but damn that 360 looks beautiful and development should be great
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I sold my Gear 2 and got the Gear Live. What a huge mistake. I didn't realize how much I missed my Gear 2. Luckily I found someone to trade my gear live for the Gear 2. The card system on Android Wear is terrible.
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I changed the ro.product.model line from SM-G870A to SM-G900A
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when you state you are rooted...do you mean the Neo or the phone? And could you please explain how you did this? I understand how to change my build prop but as stated is it the phone or watch?
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when you state you are rooted...do you mean the Neo or the phone? And could you please explain how you did this? I understand how to change my build prop but as stated is it the phone or watch?
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Phone is rooted, not the watch. I rooted by using towelroot. Look in the particular forum for your phone for instruction, I don't want to give bad advice.
I understand how to root. My question now is, will this work with any phone?
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yopiggy said:
I sold my Gear 2 and got the Gear Live. What a huge mistake. I didn't realize how much I missed my Gear 2. Luckily I found someone to trade my gear live for the Gear 2. The card system on Android Wear is terrible.
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Haha lucky me i kept my my original GG my Neo and also have the Live... Yup the live is super boring compared to the GG or Neo
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Hello,
It seems that Galaxy Gear will be update with"Tizen".What do you think about this?: Confus:http://www.androidpit.fr/samsung-galaxy-gear-tizen-mise-a-jour
If I want Tizen but I dont I will make a move to Gear 2, so in my case I will stay with my beautiful and good GG + null_, perfect combination!
it may be greatest thing ever or i may stay on Android for awhile. curious to see what fomey will do with it.
cool thing is that i just read an article where there is already a 1 CLICK port of Android apk's to run on Tizen so with this thrown into the mix it may be i update sooner than i expect.
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it may be greatest thing ever or i may stay on Android for awhile. curious to see what fomey will do with it.
cool thing is that i just read an article where there is already a 1 CLICK port of Android apk's to run on Tizen so with this thrown into the mix it may be i update sooner than i expect.
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Still looking for confirmation from Samsung about this though.
fletch33 said:
it may be greatest thing ever or i may stay on Android for awhile. curious to see what fomey will do with it.
cool thing is that i just read an article where there is already a 1 CLICK port of Android apk's to run on Tizen so with this thrown into the mix it may be i update sooner than i expect.
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Very cool, do you have that link?
The 1click thing is $5000 per app from a korean company, they do it inhouse
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Very cool, do you have that link?
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The 1click thing is $5000 per app from a korean company, they do it inhouse
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here is the link.
i doubt it will take others long to duplicate this process. when/if Tizen grows that price tag will disappear but good to know it already exist.
If you can port Android to Tizen for $5000 ....
Is it not just wrapping the app in a virtual machine, there be a lot of over head.
Some apps many apps have very small audience nobody pay $5000 to port them.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2660687
Is this realy going to happen?
http://www.sammobile.com/2014/05/14/exclusive-samsung-galaxy-gear-tizen-preview/
How about our presence here at the forum? Is this a Android exclusiv?
Im from SamMobile and this is going to happen. We obtained a test build...
This will be done in the near future..
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Wondering. Does Tizen increase battery life on the GG1.
Update. Question was asked and answered on Sammobile - YES!
Anyone know for WatchStyler faces can be used with the Tizen update?
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Im from SamMobile and this is going to happen. We obtained a test build...
This will be done in the near future..
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Is it possible to share the test build?
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Is it possible to share the test build?
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Im sorry we cant, as this would reveal the source of the build and someone may loose their job...
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Does it look like the update will come through gear manager or will it be a kies flash required?
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Im sorry we cant, as this would reveal the source of the build and someone may loose their job...
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Ok I understand. thanks
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Does it look like the update will come through gear manager or will it be a kies flash required?
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They are figuring ecerything out to let you flash through kies... Cause now you have to seperate programs. 1 to change the bootloader for Android to Tizen and the normal Odin to flash the ROM itself.. As this is to difficult for normal users. They figuring our how to do thia through Kies
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Thanks for the heads up, nice leaked info! however, android for life! hehehe
Now they just need to port Android to the Gear 2!
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Anyone know for WatchStyler faces can be used with the Tizen update?
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Latest version of watchstyler (v1.2) has support for gear 2, so you'd assume the answer is yes
This is too bad. Seems like getting 4.4 and Android Wear are out the window at this point unless someone can compile AOSP for the Gear.
Or a dedicated and talented developer ports android wear to our gear, just like they do with cell phones. Hopefully our gear are not hardware limited to run wear in the future.
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Or a dedicated and talented developer ports android wear to our gear, just like they do with cell phones. Hopefully our gear are not hardware limited to run wear in the future.
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I'm surprised there's not more talk about getting android wear on the original gear. It's far exceeds the hardware requirements of android wear and already comes with android. Not only that, but it uses the components from some flagship Samsung mobile phones. CPU-GPU included, oh and if anyone says it's because it's not possible make a new android version run an old android device. Look at the original galaxy s with jelly bean.
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I'm surprised there's not more talk about getting android wear on the original gear. It's far exceeds the hardware requirements of android wear and already comes with android. Not only that, but it uses the components from some flagship Samsung mobile phones. CPU-GPU included, oh and if anyone says it's because it's not possible make a new android version run an old android device. Look at the original galaxy s with jelly bean.
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i think that the problem of android wear is that there are no real sources, you have the test build images, but no clean sources to start a new rom from scratch like for aosp
Am I correct in assuming that upgrading to tizen will break connectivity with non touch wizz phones? I'm pairing my original galaxy note with aokp to my gear with great results. I would love to have the battery savings that tizen offers but it would be useless if I can't connect to my phone..
Also does anyone know if tizen is open source? Meaning that somebody talented would be able to make it work with unsupported phones..
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Am I correct in assuming that upgrading to tizen will break connectivity with non touch wizz phones? I'm pairing my original galaxy note with aokp to my gear with great results. I would love to have the battery savings that tizen offers but it would be useless if I can't connect to my phone..
Also does anyone know if tizen is open source? Meaning that somebody talented would be able to make it work with unsupported phones..
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actually not, it seems that guys with gear 2 are connecting theirs too with non touchwizz phones ! I'm not sure but I think they managed even notifications.
Can anyone confirm that you can flash the bootloader back from Tizen to android?
No more apps from Google Play, goodbye Tasker! goodbye gear
if someone can leak the version of tizen that's doing the rounds at Samsung atm then we could theoreticly flash to and back from tizen and android
atm according to rumour there is a version getting testing but in involves manual flashing ,in 2 parts, the bootloader and the system
if this is the case ,then its possible to flash back from tizen ,
but also according to rumour, they don't want to release any firmwares that's not easy enough to do in kies or odin to a "average user"
I would love the tizen available now just to test it
come on leak it
I'm quite happy with the note 4 so far and would like to keep it but I'm having issues with my Gear. I'm not sure if this is rom (currently on Null rom) related or note 4 only supports tizen, but these are my issues. I don't have these issues with my note 3.
1. When I get a text and I open it on the watch, it's supposed to clear the notification on the phone but it's not. So I still have to go the my messages on the phone and view them so the notification goes away.
2. I have my gear set up to auto unlock my phone when its near it, but it's not working. It stays locked (pattern unlock)
Anyone else with the Gear having any of these issues? If you're not can you tell me if you are using stock android rom or tizen. TIA.
interesting...I have a gear 2 neo coming, and I have a thread here as well, as so far, everyone says the Gear2 works flawlessly.
I assume the gear 1 and gear 2 use different firmware, so maybe that has something to do with it..
you might want to post this question in the "main" note 4 thread, to get more folks to look at it..
I'm also running null_23. Can confirm issue 2. I'm using hangouts for SMS. Not sure if notifications are dismissing for that, I'll let you know.
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interesting...I have a gear 2 neo coming, and I have a thread here as well, as so far, everyone says the Gear2 works flawlessly.
I assume the gear 1 and gear 2 use different firmware, so maybe that has something to do with it..
you might want to post this question in the "main" note 4 thread, to get more folks to look at it..
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In some case I do put it in there but moderators always move it to Q&A which makes sense so I just put them in here.
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I'm also running null_23. Can confirm issue 2. I'm using hangouts for SMS. Not sure if notifications are dismissing for that, I'll let you know.
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Thanks for the confirmation. I tried rolling back to stock android rom but still the same. I really hope I don't have to go to tizen. I need my 60 second recoding which only can be had with Null rom.
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interesting...I have a gear 2 neo coming, and I have a thread here as well, as so far, everyone says the Gear2 works flawlessly.
I assume the gear 1 and gear 2 use different firmware, so maybe that has something to do with it..
you might want to post this question in the "main" note 4 thread, to get more folks to look at it..
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Wase4711, Gear 1 and Gear 2 are significantly different. Gear 1's have the option of running android OR tizen, whereas gear 2 folks are pretty much locked into Tizen and that's that.
thanks, I did not know that:good:
whats the real difference when running either of them, outside of apps you might be able to load on the android OS?
tomorrow will be a busy day, configuring the note 4 and the gear 2!:cyclops:
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thanks, I did not know that:good:
whats the real difference when running either of them, outside of apps you might be able to load on the android OS?
tomorrow will be a busy day, configuring the note 4 and the gear 2!:cyclops:
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using a regular rom on the Note 1, you can install LOTS of goodies.
Gear 2 apps are significantly more limited. IMO the gear 2 looks cleaner without that ugly wart camera.
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using a regular rom on the Note 1, you can install LOTS of goodies.
Gear 2 apps are significantly more limited. IMO the gear 2 looks cleaner without that ugly wart camera.
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that makes sense..
for me, the gear 2 had most of the things I would care about on it, plus, I knew getting the note 4 around the same time, my head would be exploding just getting that setup how I want it, let alone having to configure/learn how to use a Gear 2..Yeah, that "wart" of a camera on the gear 1 looked terrible..
How are you guys using null without Bluetooth tethering?
quick update; the gear 2 works fantastic with this phone..
I cant believe how clear and loud making a phone call from a watch actually is!
Plus, I get the "HD Voice" notification on the watch while calling, and its as clear as a bell!
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quick update; the gear 2 works fantastic with this phone..
I cant believe how clear and loud making a phone call from a watch actually is!
Plus, I get the "HD Voice" notification on the watch while calling, and its as clear as a bell!
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Thanks for the update. It looks like I won't have a choice but to upgrade to tizen if I want my gear 1 to play right.
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Thanks for the update. It looks like I won't have a choice but to upgrade to tizen if I want my gear 1 to play right.
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its not so bad; even though there arent a ton of programs for it, i really just want it for notifications/calls/texts/email and the pedometer and work out stuff. All that works great so far on a stock, non rooted note 4
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its not so bad; even though there arent a ton of programs for it, i really just want it for notifications/calls/texts/email and the pedometer and work out stuff. All that works great so far on a stock, non rooted note 4
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Ya I use mine for mostly call, text notification, unlock feature but also camera and video recording. It beats holding a phone sometimes and having a 60 second recording (only available on custom rom) is a great.
I screwed up. I bought the Gear 2 Neo & thought it would work with Nexus 5 Lollipop
There is no option to return it because I bought it from another country.
Do I have any recourse or way to use the device? Even with limited functionality?
Any help you can provide would be appreciated. Are there are foreseeable plans of a Samsung update to allow pairing with Nexus 5 Lollipop?
Thank you.
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There is no option to return it because I bought it from another country.
Do I have any recourse or way to use the device? Even with limited functionality?
Any help you can provide would be appreciated. Are there are foreseeable plans of a Samsung update to allow pairing with Nexus 5 Lollipop?
Thank you.
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Use the gear manager v1.2. Some reported that it works with lollipop. But I have not tried it.
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Use the gear manager v1.2. Some reported that it works with lollipop. But I have not tried it.
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I tried 1.2 but it didn't seem to connect to the Neo. BT connected, but the manager timed out.
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I tried 1.2 but it didn't seem to connect to the Neo. BT connected, but the manager timed out.
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Wait for Gear Manager Lollipop edition. Starting this month, it will come to S5, so automaticaly will update Gear Manager. Be patient, it will work soon. Worth a try...
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Wait for Gear Manager Lollipop edition. Starting this month, it will come to S5, so automaticaly will update Gear Manager. Be patient, it will work soon. Worth a try...
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How likely is it? Is using Gear Manager a compromise compared to Android Wear?
Would it be better to just sell the watch and get one that is more compatible?
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How likely is it? Is using Gear Manager a compromise compared to Android Wear?
Would it be better to just sell the watch and get one that is more compatible?
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For now does't work, i must back to 4.4.4 becouse with S4 5.02 not work. Terrible
carpediem said:
There is no option to return it because I bought it from another country.
Do I have any recourse or way to use the device? Even with limited functionality?
Any help you can provide would be appreciated. Are there are foreseeable plans of a Samsung update to allow pairing with Nexus 5 Lollipop?
Thank you.
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I tried it on a very early alpha version of lollipop on my Samsung device and it worked. But I hate to burst your bubble, it will be at least another couple of months until it is stable and more generally available. It relies heavy on gear manager which relies on the touchwiz environment. Why, for Pete's sake, this route was chosen is maybe one of Samsung's downfalls. Within two years they will be out of the market if they keep going with their business model, this consumer market does not care, but like you, will remember. Examples of such electronic giants reduced to rubble? Nokia, Nortel, Blackberry
Consumers want stuff to work, simple without all these prerequisites that are in fine print.
Tbh you are best of selling or donate it to a family member with a Samsung phone that has to be running Jellybean 4.3 or KitKat. Preferably a galaxy phone so S4, Note3, ß5 or Note4. Others.... Will not work without breaking their OS
Sad but true
Anyone tried Gear 2 Neo to see if it works with the newly pushed Android 5.0.1 on i9500 and i9506?
I'm curious if it will work from day 1 on i9505 when 5.0.1 will be pushed to these devices.
Thanks!
I have i9506, nordic edition and gear 2 neo, and they work together. Even better than on Kitkat, as s health was not receiving the Gear data for pedometer and such.
Now even that works. My s4 on the otherhand is laggy as hell with 5.0.1 , but that is not the issue here
I've installed i9505 5.0.1 and Samsung Gear doesn't work anymore. When started, it blinks a 1-2 times and crashes silently. I cannot connect to the watch with anything else (Android Wear for ex.) either.
Any ideas?
Later edit: I enabled bluetooth debug in Android Wear and tried several more times to connect through S-Gear and now it seems it connected and is trying to install additional software... hope it works out.
Haha, phone did a factory reset on the watch and now I'm trying again to connect to it .
Later edit: after managing to soft brick my phone, I reinstalled the 5.0.1 and this time, amazingly enough, Samsung Gear worked as it was supposed to so my watch is back to normal functions again.
nexus 5
so is it possible to pair gear2 with nexus 5 on android 5.1.1?
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so is it possible to pair gear2 with nexus 5 on android 5.1.1?
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I'd also like to know this? I see the posts on this thread were few months ago, so I wonder if within these months there is any solution for this?
Also wheret o get the said gear manager app? How about the android wear app?
Thanks in advantage.
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I'd also like to know this? I see the posts on this thread were few months ago, so I wonder if within these months there is any solution for this?
Also wheret o get the said gear manager app? How about the android wear app?
Thanks in advantage.
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Hello,
I tried every possible thing I found on the internet. Even went to change the name of the phone and model in /system files, without any success. I did manage, after downgrading to 4.4.4 to connect to the gear 2 neo, but I couldn't use any of it's features except answering the phone via the watch. I'm thinking maybe I can change the ROM of the watch to tizen and then make a connection with android wear. I searched but didn't find anyone who did this on gear 2 neo. Theoretically, it should work. I will post if I manage to do something.
Cheers,
Alex
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Hello,
I tried every possible thing I found on the internet. Even went to change the name of the phone and model in /system files, without any success. I did manage, after downgrading to 4.4.4 to connect to the gear 2 neo, but I couldn't use any of it's features except answering the phone via the watch. I'm thinking maybe I can change the ROM of the watch to tizen and then make a connection with android wear. I searched but didn't find anyone who did this on gear 2 neo. Theoretically, it should work. I will post if I manage to do something.
Cheers,
Alex
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Answering calls work with Lollipop too,just pair watch in Bluetooth settings. Second... You should install Android rom on watch,not Tizen. There is also Android Wear mod possibility... Roms for Gear 2 should also work on Neo (except camera)
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Just thought id share this with you guys .Im currently running on my neo its alittle buggie at first but its my daily nowhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/gear-2/development/please-help-kernel-compiling-android-t2992953
Oh hey, so they finally went somewhere with that project! I used to keep track of the many developers who have tried over the years, good to see that someone was finally able to pull it off.
How do you like it so far?
Is it worth the transition and side effects?
The side effects are not that bad you have to force a weather card to keep the open gl driver running so that the faces work
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The side effects are not that bad you have to force a weather card to keep the open gl driver running so that the faces work
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That's not to bad, but what about the no mic thing? Since android wear is big on "Ok Google" has that caused any limitations??
I scanned through the thread and so far it looks amazing!! That's my only concern, I really want to try this, but I have custom roms on my other samsung devices that made the IR blaster useless as well lol and I currently don't own a remote for my room.
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Oh hey, so they finally went somewhere with that project! I used to keep track of the many developers who have tried over the years, good to see that someone was finally able to pull it off.
How do you like it so far?
Is it worth the transition and side effects?
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"Over the years"???
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Ok google is now fixed.
It's my daily driver.
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It's my daily driver.
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its my daily driver aswell, Biktor_gj has done really well with it. its came miles "over the years". you can find it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/gear-2/development/please-help-kernel-compiling-android-t2992953
does anyone have a link or some direction on the where to get the windows drivers for this. i have flashed stuff and used odin for years and i cant get windows to read this in download mode no matter what. i tried tizen and android sdk, installed samsung phone drivers, installed and uninstalled kies. im at a loss. im am using vm on mac but never had an issue with any samsung products. might be a tizen thing.
So, does this mean I can have full use of my neo without the need for a TW rom? I detest TouchWiz
The answer is yes!
Can this be used on other devices as well? I'm going to be moving from a note 3 to a moto x at upgrade and would like to be able to use the neo 2 with it.
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Yes, you can connect to other phones. Successfully connected to an LG G3 using android wear app.
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