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Buying nook off Craigslist

Ad says its running cm7. Anything I should look for or check to make sure I'm not getting screwed?
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Don't pay extra because it has CM7 is on it. Installing CM7 is almost trivial now days. Going back to stock can be pain, not because it's difficult but because there are so many different tutorials and its confusing.
I would say skip it and buy one so you can hack it and learn. I wouldn't hesitate if the CM7 one is a good deal. You can pick up refurbed NCs for about $200 on line. If there is an issue with a refurb BN is pretty good about replacing it.

If it works good and looks good it should be fine. Read developers posts to set up the way you want. You can even put it back to stock if you want.

Someone smarter than I can probably give more details on this but I'm not sure it's a good idea to buy it with CM7 already installed. It might seem like a time saver but when I was playing with my girlfriends NC I wiped, cleared, did a bunch of stuff and when I went back to stock it would only let me register it with the ORIGINAL email and password. To put it another way, if they did not de-register the device before installing CM7 going back to stock will be (in my experience) a real pain in the neck since you have to have that original info to clear BN's opening screens and be able to attach the device to your email / account. There might be some simple way around this but I don't recall seeing it mentioned in the threads I've read. Personally I would rather buy one that is stock so I can just go in and click de-register and know it's done rather than have someone tell me it was and not know if they remembered things accurately. I'm sure a call to BN would eventually fix it but that's not much fun.

Thanks for the info.
Supposed to meet up tomorrow. Hope it goes smoothly. I been trying to find one for a while, but $250 is more than I can spend right now or I'd just get a brand new one.
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I'll give you first hand why you should be wary of Craig's list with CM7.
Here's the 'scam' that's being run - these guys get a bad credit card or a bad check or whatever and buy the nook. Or maybe they just swipe one. As soon as B&N finds out, with a report from a store or from the stolen credit card, they blacklist the device. The actual device serial number is on the receipts, so they can do this.
Now, what that means is that you can't register the NC, no matter how hard you try. B&N won't unblacklist it, even if you're the "unknowing victim" here. If you're running CM7, no big deal. But if you want to run stock, you would have issues. And that's if you can live with having stolen merchandise.
After getting rooked like this, I just ask for the device serial number. If they're legit, they should have no problems giving it to you. Then just call up B&N and tell them you're buying a used Nook and you want to make sure that it's legit. They'll be able to tell you when and where it was purchased (by store #, but you can look that up) and whether it is blacklisted or not.
I had one someone was was selling one "New in the box" for $200. It was purchased in Atlanta on Friday and on Craig's list on Tuesday, 750 miles away. I don't think they realized what I would do with the serial number, but once I saw that, I knew it was a scam - why would anyone take a $50 loss on an unopened Nook 4 days after buying it?
Anyway, that's what to look for, be worried about, and how to allay your concerns, if you have any.

BTW make sure there's a sdcard. 2GB at least.

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Anyway, that's what to look for, be worried about, and how to allay your concerns, if you have any.
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I got the serial number without a fuss, called B an N, but they just gave me the run around... what number did you call? I used 1-800-the-book....
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I think the first time I had to call them I used the-book and then they gave me another number at one point, but they should have been able to help you. I had no problems at all - called 3 different times and got answers and info.

Negrito said:
Thanks for the info.
Supposed to meet up tomorrow. Hope it goes smoothly. I been trying to find one for a while, but $250 is more than I can spend right now or I'd just get a brand new one.
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Check eBay. Using PayPal can give you some protection and save some $$ sometimes. I got one used for $190 (stock) just to play with keeping the other stable.

skeeterpro said:
Check eBay. Using PayPal can give you some protection and save some $$ sometimes. I got one used for $190 (stock) just to play with keeping the other stable.
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i am thinking of getting one, refurbished or used, but i am worried if there would be any problems with it.... and the biggest issue is that i live in Europe!
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Fekish said:
i am thinking of getting one, refurbished or used, but i am worried if there would be any problems with it.... and the biggest issue is that i live in Europe!
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Not entirely sure what the challenges would be other than power connections, Market access and possibly wifi protocols. I've read in Canada Google Apps shows different apps than here in USA so that might be applicable there. Not sure. I would definately check the power/recharge specs though. I'm sure there are other more knowledgable on this than I here who can chime in.

As we are not concerned about connecting to a Network, i dont think there should be any other issue. We are on Android, so connecting to a Market should be something easy to overcome!
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Fekish said:
i am thinking of getting one, refurbished or used, but i am worried if there would be any problems with it.... and the biggest issue is that i live in Europe!
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Watch out on ebay sometimes you will find devices from european sellers for fair pricing, buy from oversea and you maybe make no advantage of the better price due custom duty
There are none other problems, get an power adapter and that's it, yeah it's true some apps are only accessable on the market with US based IP adress.

eneloop said:
Watch out on ebay sometimes you will find devices from european sellers for fair pricing, buy from oversea and you maybe make no advantage of the better price due custom duty
There are none other problems, get an power adapter and that's it, yeah it's true some apps are only accessable on the market with US based IP adress.
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Yes i know thanks, bought about 200 things from internet outside europe
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Caution is always needed but I've bought 4 off of craigslist. Even if cm7 is already installed you can always wipe n reinstall -assuming of course you don't need stock nook
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Some nookcolors have issues with screen sensitivity and registering phantom taps. I got mine at best buy and also bought the extended protection, so they will give me a new one even if I drop the device and crack the screen.
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indagroove said:
Some nookcolors have issues with screen sensitivity and registering phantom taps. I got mine at best buy and also bought the extended protection, so they will give me a new one even if I drop the device and crack the screen.
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Wow, I remember you from ppcgeeks! I bought the nook, I like it so far... but is it just me or is CM7 really unstable? I have apps force close quite a bit.
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Negrito said:
Wow, I remember you from ppcgeeks! I bought the nook, I like it so far... but is it just me or is CM7 really unstable? I have apps force close quite a bit.
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Did you format system, data, and cache before flashing CM7, or just wipe? CM7 is quite stable for me.

indagroove said:
Did you format system, data, and cache before flashing CM7, or just wipe? CM7 is quite stable for me.
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It was already flashed when I bought it. So that may be the problem. I havent had time to sit down mess with it yet. Hopefully the 2.3.4 drops this week then I'll just upgrade to that.

[Q] The Nook Color still worth it?

It just seems that since the 1.2 update, the NC is harder to root and deal with, having a lot of issues, like the market, etc.
Is it just me or am I just overreacting because I've been looking to buy one and I see all these threads about this and that isn't working, and all these more difficult looking procedures to fix it.
Still worth it?

It depends on what you are wanting to do with it.
I was running autonooter 1.1 and liked the stock B&N app.
I was waiting for autonooter 1.2 to get all the kinks worked out so I could keep my magazines that I have subscriptions for.
That all changed when B&N updated their App in the android market to include Books and Magazines/ Newspapers.
I installed CM7 nightly 72 over the weekend w/ the overclock and I don't see a reason to go back to rooted stock 1.2. Took me about 30 minutes to download the files and install the ROM. Been running perfectly.
In my mind the only reason to keep the stock software on the Nook is if you need to have access to the children's books. Otherwise, put CM7 on there.

I Am Marino said:
It just seems that since the 1.2 update, the NC is harder to root and deal with, having a lot of issues, like the market, etc.
Is it just me or am I just overreacting because I've been looking to buy one and I see all these threads about this and that isn't working, and all these more difficult looking procedures to fix it.
Still worth it?
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The only issue I'm running into on CM7 beta 3.1 is the occasional system freeze requiring a reboot. No doubt that'll be sorted out soon. It's completely worth it if you put the right ROM on there.

1.2 is actually easier, i have market working, netflix, and oc to 1.2g all of my apps that I use work...having flash was the key for me and now I have it
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IMO I have been running the CM7 stable off a uSD card and couldn't be happier.
Took me 20 minutes maybe to get the files downloaded and installed and I very happy I did.
Wish I had wait a day later because B&N updated the android app. If I had know that, I would have installed directly to the nook..... No card...
But, that said.... It's the best 250 bucks I have spent....
I have everything on it I need for a tablet and it runs very stable....
So... I read my books.... I watch my Netflix..... I read my e-mail.... I surf the net.... I play my games....
Lego

So it's still simple enough to root?
And is it better to run it off SD or try to make the eMMC work since B&N messed with it?

At this point, you might as well at least wait until the 24th and see what it is B&N are releasing. Personally, I think it'll be a Nook Classic refresh, but it'd suck to buy a NC and have it obsolete in a week.

Nah forget that. Everything is obsolete. I say get it.
It is very easy to root and I believe you will get the best overall performance installing to emmc.
Best 250 I've ever spent and it has totally replaced my laptop now that Netflix is working. Running Cm7.

I Am Marino said:
It just seems that since the 1.2 update, the NC is harder to root and deal with, having a lot of issues, like the market, etc.
Is it just me or am I just overreacting because I've been looking to buy one and I see all these threads about this and that isn't working, and all these more difficult looking procedures to fix it.
Still worth it?
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If anything, it's a better deal now. The latest CM7 update (finally) fixed the battery / sleep issues. Plus, B&N updated their reader app for Android. I haven't tried it, but I've heard that it's now compatible with magazines.
This pretty much eliminates the need to root the stock version. I'm even running everything off of an SD card and the performance is fantastic.

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Nah forget that. Everything is obsolete. I say get it.
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I concur.
I haven't been able to put it down.

I would say it's definitely worth it. I use this more than my laptop or phone (both of which I use to use extensively). I'm hard pressed to come up with a device that I'd rather have in the near future. Most rooting and install procedures are fairly easy and only require a small amount of reading to understand.
And don't be afraid of all the "problems" popping up. Most of those are beta builds (which you don't have to use) or people not reading instructions properly.

absolutely worth it. I bought the iconia tab and used it for two weeks and returned it because I couldn't deal with all the force closes related to HC. So I picked up the nook couple days ago and love it. It came without the newest update. I rooted it and installed cm7 to emmc. I have harbor problems with it. Ad hoc tether works with no modifications flash works perfect market is there.
Don't bother with the autonooter to install on the SD card since the be nook app has everything except read to me.
All in all my rooted nook color performs far better than the iconia tab I bought. Well worth the $250!
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Are you still able to mount CM7 to the eMMC based off that new thing with only 1GB is able to be used?

If everyone who doesn't know the difference between rooting, flashing, ROMs, SD, eMMC and all the rest would please read this blog post, http://quinxy.com/guides/how-to-pick-your-nook-color-operating-system-and-install-options/ then this discussion may turn halfway coherent. Some of the version numbers may be out of date, but it will get you somewhat grounded in what's what.
As someone partly said, most of the problems you see come about because
1) people don't read directions
2) they just get hooked on tinkering with the thing and eventually something goes wrong.
A lot of the "problems" aren't even problems so much as the geek equivalent of a bunch of guys standing around a muscle car talking about whether to put on spoilers or stuff a subwoofer in the trunk.
I was initially planning to set up some kind of dual-boot on eMMC, but saw a really easy method for getting an SD install running, as well as a good card recommendation, and decided to take CM7 for a test-drive first. It runs so smooth from SD, I just dropped in an OC kernel and let it be. A lot of people are jumping straight to the beta, but I'm getting much better performance from the latest stable build, CM7.0.3, and I can deal with 5-6 hours use and two days on stand-by until they work out the other kinks in the beta. Everything I used for my build is at the link in my sig.

IFLATLINEI said:
Nah forget that. Everything is obsolete. I say get it.
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So what you're saying is he should spend $250 today and then if they launch a faster, better NC next Tuesday for the same price that's fine?
Sound advice.

HarryCz said:
So what you're saying is he should spend $250 today and then if they launch a faster, better NC next Tuesday for the same price that's fine?
Sound advice.
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If you want a goat, just say so. You don't have to lurk under that bridge.
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But coming back from fairyland, the NC is a good value regardless of what comes out next week, which will probably be large-format e-ink and is almost certainly timed to keep the wind in the NC's sails, not leave it adrift.

Taosaur said:
But coming back from fairyland, the NC is a good value regardless of what comes out next week, which will probably be large-format e-ink and is almost certainly timed to keep the wind in the NC's sails, not leave it adrift.
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I would be very surprised if it is some kind of upgrade to the Nook Color. B&N has to stay competitive with the $114 ad supported Kindle and I am guessing that this will be an e-ink reader in the $100-125 range or you could be right, it could be a large format reader. It seems unlikely that B&N would upgrade the Nook Color and then release a new one a couple of weeks later.
I have been lusting after the Asus eee pad transformer but that is mostly due to how much I love the Nook Color. I would never have considered spending more than $300 on a device like this but like an earlier poster, I use it more than my laptop or my phone.

richdaley said:
I have been lusting after the Asus eee pad transformer but that is mostly due to how much I love the Nook Color. I would never have considered spending more than $300 on a device like this but like an earlier poster, I use it more than my laptop or my phone.
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Agreed.
Let me echo the thoughts of another poster: once the B&N Android App supported magazines, I saw no reason not to go with a CM7 install. I'm currently running Phiremod 1.2, and it's fantastic. Even though it's running the older kernel that doesn't put the machine into "deep sleep" I'm finding that battery life is great. It should easily last you all day. Just re-charge every night (which I do anyway) and everything is good.
I'm also loving the idea of the Asus eepad. I can't wait to go full Android and get windows (mostly) out of my private life for good. (Of course, as a Windows System Administrator it'll be a long time before I get Windows out of my professional life, LOL!)
I think we're still a couple of years off from Android becoming a viable OS alternative to Windows, but it won't be long, IMHO.

I have a rooted 1.2 with MN and I love this little baby!!! I overclocked stock rom to 1.1 mhz and it flies. I have had some visibility issues with the market but have been able to find most apps I want (had to sideload a few).
Now with the updated Nook app I might put CM7 or Phiremod into it but my stock OC setup works so nicely that I might hold off a little bit.
The 24th is near so I would wait and see but I dont think the announcement would be anything that makes the NC obsolete. My wishes for a NC 2?:
1. I think 7.5" or 8" would be an even better screen size, nothing bigger than that.
2. Native speed of at least 1mhz
3. Re design of the newspaper layout : keep the same format as today but add a "newsstand format" just like magazines, where I can see the ads and original formatting.
4. Bump memory to 1 gb
5. Gingerbread
Things I know I will never get:
1. Price drop to $225 or $200
2. on board GPS
3. Native full market access (as a tradeoff I'll let them block reader apps except Nook app)
3. Mini HDMI

HarryCz said:
So what you're saying is he should spend $250 today and then if they launch a faster, better NC next Tuesday for the same price that's fine?
Sound advice.
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Awww Cmon now gimmie a break. Im not important. If hes smart and theres no reason to think hes not then he will no doubt take into account everyones opinion here. You have 5 posts and your calling me out? Funny.
With that being said from what ive been reading the experts are expecting something to replace the E ink reader not the Nook Color. If they do release a Nook Color replacement well then is it really that big a loss? Does that make the Original that much worse? Not everyone is hung up on specs and even still the Nook Color has more room to grow.

Google Body Slams B&N and Amazon with Nexus 7

It's Official our beloved Nook Color has been Outclassed Completely as best Developer Tablet
Meet the Nexus 7:
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It's got Specs that Dwarf anything Amazon and B&N have yet somehow manages to claim the same Price Tag. Here are the Specs:
7-inch 1280 x 800 display
Quad-processor
Tegra 3 12-core GPU
8 GB and 16 GB models
1 GB of RAM
1.2 MP front-facing camera
Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, NFC, gyroscope
9 hours video playback
300 hours standby
340 grams
Chrome as standard browser
$199 8gb($249 16gb), shipping mid-July to US, Canada, Australia and UK, preorders available today
Includes $25 credit in Google Play store, lots of preloaded goodies
That List One Ups anything else Available in this Price Range. It's Available for Preorder from the Google Play Store HERE
So what do you think of B&N and Amazon's new monolithic Competitor?

I'll definitely be getting one for the hardware (the phone UI throws me). I haven't decided if I'll sell the NC cheap, or re-purpose it for use around the house. It can always be used for use in kitchen as a media stream, living room for remote control, perhaps the car as a GPS/receiver. The NC isn't completely dead :fingers-crossed:

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I'll definitely be getting one for the hardware (the phone UI throws me). I haven't decided if I'll sell the NC cheap, or re-purpose it for use around the house. It can always be used for use in kitchen as a media stream, living room for remote control, perhaps the car as a GPS/receiver. The NC isn't completely dead :fingers-crossed:
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Yeah, with CM9 the Nook Color finally is getting the Tablet treatment it deserves(Not Customised Phone like CM7) but with the Nexus 7 I'm actually considering the selling of my NC that I've used and loved for 2 1/2 years. This is the most torn I've felt in awhile. With the NC only just getting ICS(and still missing certain important things as of now), the Nexus 7 with Jellybean and Quad-Core CPU is flat-out tough to ignore.

My Nook has been my constant companion for a year and a half..had a half dozen different roms starting with autonooter. I even purchased a murse (man purse) to carry it in.... Really going to be hard to put it on a shelf!!!! BUT, this thing looks great and the price for the 16g is what I paid for my Nook!!! And I have a birthday coming in two weeks!!!:silly:

But no SD slot. And phone GUI is standard, even though HD device.
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But no SD slot. And phone GUI is standard, even though HD device.
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Where did you hear about Phone UI? And how is that necessarily a bad thing? Who knows if it works better or not, we haven't gotten our hands on Jellybean yet. Lack of MicroSD slot I agree is a big Con but let's hold out on whether the UI will be bad. The Phone UI on JB might just work better on a 7" screen then the Tablet UI. On CM9 I do notice how things are Kind of squashed/cramped in Tablet Apps with the NC and it can get annoying.

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Where did you hear about Phone UI? And how is that necessarily a bad thing? Who knows if it works better or not, we haven't gotten our hands on Jellybean yet. Lack of MicroSD slot I agree is a big Con but let's hold out on whether the UI will be bad. The Phone UI on JB might just work better on a 7" screen then the Tablet UI. On CM9 I do notice how things are Kind of squashed/cramped in Tablet Apps with the NC and it can get annoying.
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check out the device pictures and the video on the Play device store page. I too am reserving judgement till I've played with one in person

japzone said:
The Phone UI on JB might just work better on a 7" screen then the Tablet UI. On CM9 I do notice how things are Kind of squashed/cramped in Tablet Apps with the NC and it can get annoying.
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I didn't say the phone gui was bad. I use the phone gui on my nook color and like it. I just wanted people to know that's how it came. No tablet gui.

leapinlar said:
I didn't say the phone gui was bad. I use the phone gui on my nook color and like it. I just wanted people to know that's how it came. No tablet gui.
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Sorry, didn't mean to point fingures.

One other downside.....no reason to root right away!!!!:laugh::crying:

http://www.androidcentral.com/google-nexus-7-hands-and-initial-review
Answers our UI question. They have changed it so that Tablets(at Least 7inchers) get the Phone UI but made it so it takes advantage of the larger screen. So yes it's the Phone UI, but No it doesn't suck like the Android 2.2 and 2.3 UIs did.

japzone said:
http://www.androidcentral.com/google-nexus-7-hands-and-initial-review
Answers our UI question. They have changed it so that Tablets(at Least 7inchers) get the Phone UI but made it so it takes advantage of the larger screen. So yes it's the Phone UI, but No it doesn't suck like the Android 2.2 and 2.3 UIs did.
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The phone GUI on the Nexus is exactly the same as ICS in phone mode. Thin status bar on top and bigger, centered navbar at the bottom. Like I said earlier, I use it and like it. Google said they were trying to streamline and standardize the user experience.
Sent from my Nook Color running ICS and Tapatalk

Exciting stuff.
Well I preordered it. I had skipped the kindle/NT (though I do adore the omap4s, I didn't want to reward BN for locking their bootloader)... but dalingrin talked me into this months ago when it was that announced $250 ASUS 7" quad core device, so now that it's finally out I'm getting one.
Also just loaned away my TP-- 10.1" is too big for me, at least with that heavy monster. It was a great deal and a great project, but 7" is right for me.
That said- my NC is my baby and it ain't goin' nowhere.

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Well I preordered it. I had skipped the kindle/NT (though I do adore the omap4s, I didn't want to reward BN for locking their bootloader)... but dalingrin talked me into this months ago when it was that announced $250 ASUS 7" quad core device, so now that it's finally out I'm getting one.
Also just loaned away my TP-- 10.1" is too big for me, at least with that heavy monster. It was a great deal and a great project, but 7" is right for me.
That said- my NC is my baby and it ain't goin' nowhere.
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Hear! Hear! You Certainly have helped make the NC so great.
I would have loved to get a Nexus if it had a sd card slot

Would have bought a Nexus 7 today if it would have had an SD card slot. Oh well.

Preordered 2 of the 16gb models and sold my NC for $115 (w/2g SD) just now. Sooooo.... Here's my last post in the Nook Color forum: Thanks for the fun, devs - see you in the Nexus 7 forum!

There's a case too...
A quick tip for anyone grabbing a n7-- if you get the case, do it in the same purchase order, and you won't be charged extra for shipping.
If you already ordered before the case made its appearance in the store (as I did earlier today), you can call google, cancel the old order and do a new combined one.
$20 for a custom case is a pretty good deal i think considering that HP was charging $70 or something even AFTER they discontinued the touchpad.
As for the venerable NC-- it was introduced in 2010, remember. And its growing inexpense and SD-bootability make it, I think, still a great, fun device for learning to mess around w/Android without much risk of bricking.
(That said, keep in mind I still think the Apple II is awesome :cyclops

The lack of user loadable storage (SDCard) completely destroyed any chance of getting this on my part. I'll probably play with my Nook Color until it either goes bust or something else comes along that is the Nexus + SDCard. This is a disappointing misstep as far as I'm concerned.
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Man, Fat tire and Dalingrin getting one and who knows what other awesome devs are getting one. I have a strong feeling development on this is going to be epic!

I'll also be getting one as soon as I can ( probably on my trip to europe in august )
Lot's of exciting things
Tho , I still hope kernel 3.x will take a giant step forward soon so I can use the nook as the CarPc replacement I intended it for and my N7 as my fun/development tablet
I really hope the PDK will bring some exciting times
one article said they decided to open it to all users instead of just oems - if that's true it might be one of the biggest things ever ( like all-in-all sources library , oem and developers work together )

So, I traded my Note 4...

For an iPhone 6 Plus...
Someone please..shoot me

bad mistake i went the other way you have gone to the dark side.

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For an iPhone 6 Plus...
Someone please..shoot me
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you will be back after your iphone goes all floppy and bends.

Ironically, the first app I tried to download on it was the XDA premium app...I just sat there for a second when it was nowhere to be found..

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Ironically, the first app I tried to download on it was the XDA premium app...I just sat there for a second when it was nowhere to be found..
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You should try downloading the #bendgate app.It will make your iPhone more fabulous.

As first, my deep condolences.
Second,what is purpose of this thread ?
iCrap does not belong here so consider to join some iCrap community.

The Black Droid said:
Ironically, the first app I tried to download on it was the XDA premium app...I just sat there for a second when it was nowhere to be found..
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That's coincidental, not irony.... But if Alanis Morissette got it wrong, you can't blame others for doing same.
Besides use Tapatalk instead. It actually works better on the iPhone 6+ than Note 4 (you see more content/posts on it).
I have both the 6+ & Note 4 (and a moto x 2014) and contrary to popular belief the two can co-exist very happily - both great phones. My app usage is near identical between them too.
Both have great screens and great battery life. And after 5 months use, neither my Note 4 has a gap gate issue or iPhone 6+ bend gate issue....
I don't understand why some in android or apple communities get so insecure about these things. Just enjoy whatever device you are using.
That being said I'm not sure why your post is entirely relevant here and will inevitably stir up a hornets nest.

I must admit I have thought about it while sitting here waiting for lollipop. Considered the Nexus 6 as well, but at the end of the day this Note can do things that none of the competition can. The pen mostly but the removable battery and sd card are also nice. 6+ would be ok if I got the 128gb version but here in New Zealand a 32gb Nexus 6 costs the same as a note 4 so it's a total no brainer, lollipop or not.

The Black Droid said:
For an iPhone 6 Plus...
Someone please..shoot me
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why? Just interested...

I actually had the same thought, because I admire the beauty of the iPhone. But after taking a look I realized that they wanted me to pay extra cash for the exchange which is ridiculous since they get a better phone from me then I get from them.. But I might trade phones, just to try out the 6+ someday..

Im waiting for "IPhone 17 plus +" until then I stick with Note series.
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I actually think it's not a bad idea at all. I've been with Andorid since the start and never had an Iphone, but there's tons of apps that have better support on iOS/apps that are not on Android at all. anyway..why not change once in awhile and try new things right? maybe i'll do it with my next phone

I made complete research, and just for change of taste, i went to buy an iphone 6+, got it booked here in Pakistan. but ended up buying a Note 4, and my first 2-3 days were of full depression because of battery drains but now its all fine. the only regret i have is the sound quality i was having with htc one m8 before, otherwise note4 is soooo awesome <3

After just one day with it, I quite content with it. Seems to be pretty solid...so far.

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Even that regular coffee for $4 is overpriced. You can get a refusal coffee at Starbucks for $2.50.
Sorry had to point that out. Lol
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The fact that you can't use NFC (no secure token such as yubikey) for anything other than ApplePay, or that you can't use openvpn or PGP on an iPhone makes it an unsuitable/undesirable device for me. I hate how you can only run software endorsed by Apple on a device you paid for.

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The fact that you can't use NFC (no secure token such as yubikey) for anything other than ApplePay, or that you can't use openvpn or PGP on an iPhone makes it an unsuitable/undesirable device for me. I hate how you can only run software endorsed by Apple on a device you paid for.
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Agree but that's how they maintain the pubic perception that their platform is stable, secure and reliable. In reality it's no better that a high end Android these days, it's just that it's much easier for Android users to completely bork their phone by installing badly built apps.
Also iOS is easier to develop for, so long as you're compatible with the latest iOS you don't really need to worry about much else. Android is completely different. People could be running your app on anything from gingerbread to lollipop, have from a 1ghz single core cpu to a quad/octa core monster, 512mb to 3gb ram, 600x800 up to 1440x2560 screen res, etc etc.
In other words I couldn't give a **** for iOS, but the app ecosystem is kind of tempting.

nookcoloruser said:
That's coincidental, not irony.... But if Alanis Morissette got it wrong, you can't blame others for doing same.
Besides use Tapatalk instead. It actually works better on the iPhone 6+ than Note 4 (you see more content/posts on it).
I have both the 6+ & Note 4 (and a moto x 2014) and contrary to popular belief the two can co-exist very happily - both great phones. My app usage is near identical between them too.
Both have great screens and great battery life. And after 5 months use, neither my Note 4 has a gap gate issue or iPhone 6+ bend gate issue....
I don't understand why some in android or apple communities get so insecure about these things. Just enjoy whatever device you are using.
That being said I'm not sure why your post is entirely relevant here and will inevitably stir up a hornets nest.
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So much of this. I have both the devices too, along with a nexus 6 and i really don't understand the hate on both sides. Plus as others have already said the topic is irrelevant on this forum. There is such a thing as discretion of posting.
That said to the OP, iPhone 6 plus is a fine device. Enjoy the great apps, a great consistent camera and great battery life.

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That's coincidental, not irony.... But if Alanis Morissette got it wrong, you can't blame others for doing same.
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Can you elaborate on this? While your statement holds partial truth, it was also ironic that I tried to download a well-known android app on my iPhone. Never, EVER make me feel like I wasted money on an education again!

Device owner already set before purchasing?

I think this applies to all tablet models. I did a factory reset and wiped the cache, several times in a row last night, because I got sick of a few things and wanted to run a test.
I wanted to install IceBox Apps Freezer. You don't need root, so long as you set it to be 'Device Owner' using ADB shell:
Code:
adb shell dpm set-device-owner com.catchingnow.icebox/.receiver.DPMReceiver
The app says to remove all accounts associated with the device in order for that to work. On our tablets (all models) this isn't possible. So I had to find out a way that would clear all 'device owners.' Google itself is very specific about how this is to be done: Factory reset.
Caution: If provisioning has already started, affected devices must be factory reset first.
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Since I did that, and didn't register the tablet with Amazon, Managed Provisioning shouldn't apply. However, I followed all the steps, made sure WiFi was and still is off and went into ADB and this is what I got in return:
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Trying to set device owner but device is already provisioned
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Um what? Is that even legal?

I know this can be done via security settings, but maybe doing it through ADB has a better effect. I managed to get Ice Box to be an admin using adb. That's as far as I've been able to get so far.
I've tried moving the code around and I just don't understand how to elevate it to profile owner, then hopefully to device owner.

I have found the way to provisioning, but yeah...doesn't let me setup the device. I am trying to find a way to trigger it on the next reboot.
Code:
adb shell pm enable com.android.managedprovisioning
Error: java.lang.SecurityException: Permission Denial: attempt to change component state from pid=6012, uid=2000, package uid=32028
adb shell am start -n com.android.managedprovisioning/.DeviceOwnerProvisioningActivity
Starting: Intent { cmp=com.android.managedprovisioning/.DeviceOwnerProvisioningActivity }
That takes me to a screen with a briefcase and a spinning wheel under "Set up your device."
Oops! Couldn't set up your device. Contact your IT department.
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Amazon uses an APK to provision devices before there is even an actual owner (see attachment). You can unzip it using WinRar or 7zip or root explorer. Everything it needs to tell you you don't actually own your tablet, is right there. What the hell did we purchase then? This cracked me up a bit. AVG says its malware.
Code:
com.android.managedprovisioning

So I was looking at my XT907 for some similar items. Only one: SelfProvisioningService.apk
I did a quick Google search and kept getting hits for Cisco Services. I unzipped the apk and it's a Motorola provisioning application. Google was useless. Nothing comes up on either of these "programs/apps". The only direct hit/connection I've found so far is the AVG reference. These flushable provisions are supposed to be proprietary software and they always update them. I'll assume they don't stay the same package names for too long and change so quick and often, most go unnoticed.
Here's the answer i haven't been able to find or get...who or what is DeviceOwner? To put it into perspective: there is a random guy walking around with a kickass cell phone that can literally flash a new DeviceOwner to any electronic device within that company. Who has this information? Can they still access it and at will? Please do comment as I would rather be totally wrong and paranoid, than thinking this guy or whatever can access my tablet at will,whenever he wants and can see or get whatever he wants.
Code:
com.motorola.service.selfprovisioning
there are no permissions to write or access much of anything, except wireless capabilities. The provisioning is usually flashed to devices enmass through the Nfc or Android Beam etc. It's like tap and pay and done. And it's usually by some service technician.

so icebox can't be used in this device?

shawon11 said:
so icebox can't be used in this device?
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Only with root access unfortunately.
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DragonFire1024 said:
Only with root access unfortunately.
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if i had root why would i use icebox. and I don't think root is ever going to come in fire HD 8.

shawon11 said:
if i had root why would i use icebox. and I don't think root is ever going to come in fire HD 8.
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There are many practical reasons to disable/freeze apps on a rooted device. And yes, securing stable root is highly unlikely on FireOS v5 builds targeting older hardware architecture (SOCs) like that used on the HD 8.

Davey126 said:
There are many practical reasons to disable/freeze apps on a rooted device. And yes, securing stable root is highly unlikely on FireOS v5 builds targeting older hardware architecture (SOCs) like that used on the HD 8.
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seriously bummed about this. fire hd 10 got root just not fire hd 7 & 8.. these things need root more than anything else.

shawon11 said:
seriously bummed about this. fire hd 10 got root just not fire hd 7 & 8.. these things need root more than anything else.
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HD 10 got root because it appears, in my opinion, Amazon threw either a badly patched or unpatched kernel into the HD 10. I don't think the dirty cow patch can be exploited on Android yet either. If so, there may not be a patch. The HD 10 can be rooted from At least 5.4.0.1 to the current build. It might be a flaw Amazon can't fix.
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shawon11 said:
seriously bummed about this. fire hd 10 got root just not fire hd 7 & 8.. these things need root more than anything else.
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HD 10 uses a newer hardware architecture and different build of FireOS. Amazon left a few doors open which will almost certainly be addressed in future releases. Accept reality and move on. In the absence of an unlocked bootloader root access is becoming increasingly rare across all hardware. Bad for tinkers; good for the overwhelming majority of Android/FireOS users who don't have a clue how to properly secure their device. Not to mention Amazon who retains near complete control over the user experience (a.k.a. ecosystem portal). Don't like it? Buy a different gizmo. Likely at a much higher price point.

Davey126 said:
HD 10 uses a newer hardware architecture and different build of FireOS. Amazon left a few doors open which will almost certainly be addressed in future releases. Accept reality and move on. In the absence of an unlocked bootloader root access is becoming increasingly rare across all hardware. Bad for tinkers; good for the overwhelming majority of Android/FireOS users who don't have a clue how to properly secure their device. Not to mention Amazon who retains near complete control over the user experience (a.k.a. ecosystem portal). Don't like it? Buy a different gizmo. Likely at a much higher price point.
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Having mine still on 5.4.0.0 after two years, I'm one of the lucky few who can disable most of that ecosystem.
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Can I see somewhere information about the device owner? For example where the device is registered to? Can I change this information?

klausb65 said:
Can I see somewhere information about the device owner? For example where the device is registered to? Can I change this information?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/root-remove-parental-control-t3932831
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