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Share downloaded apps with second profile 4.2

Sooooo, there has been a lot of *****ing about the user profiles and how a new profile has to download and pay for apps you already own. I agree that it is stupid. Google should have done it differently and they still might. I decided to see how it worked and to see if there was a way to make the apps you already have downloaded visible to another user. After tinkering around for awhile I have found a way to do this.
EDIT: jeepguy04 has made an app that makes this super simple. The link to the app can be found on his thread HERE.
This DOES NOT work if you have restored your apps with titanium backup. I believe it has to do with where TiBu places the data on the sdcard.
Not all scenarios have been tried so your help testing and diagnosing would be appreciated.
Requirements:
- at least a half functioning brain (the more the better)
- a basic understanding of the Engrish language
- a cool beverage for those in warm climates or a warm beverage for those in cool climates
- you must be rooted
- you must have a root file explorer ( ES, Root Explorere, etc) or know how to push and pull files via adb though im not going to go over this method
Step 1:
Create a new user.
Step 2:
Use your root file explorer to navigate to /data/system/users/
This folder contains folders numbered 0 and XX. 0 is the folder for your main profile. XX (it is probably 10) is your second profile.
Step 3:
Open folder XX.
The file we are interested in is called package-restrictions.xml.
Step 4:
Open the package-restrictions.xml for editing.
When you open this up you see a long list strings like this:
stopped=”true” nl=”true” />
These correspond to the packages you have installed on your main profile. The one above obviously is for SketchBook Pro.
If i wanted this to be available on my second user I would simply delete the whole line from this file.
Step 5:
Reboot, log in to the second profile, profit.
Once you reboot you should see the app in the second profile. In my experience the app does not use the data from the main profile so your game scores etc are safe.
Let me know if this works for you.

I just searched a way for sharing an installed app to my kids profile without google account and found the /data/system/users/##/package-restictions.xml file, too. I noticed if an app is installed in the profile, then there is no entry for this app in this file.
So simply deleting the whole line, e.g.
<pkg name="com.rovio.angrybirds" inst="false" />
and rebooting works. The app is now installed

unwired said:
I just searched a way for sharing an installed app to my kids profile without google account and found the /data/system/users/##/package-restictions.xml file, too. I noticed if an app is installed in the profile, then there is no entry for this app in this file.
So simply deleting the whole line, e.g.
<pkg name="com.rovio.angrybirds" inst="false" />
and rebooting works. The app is now installed
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Glad it worked for you. I will have to try it again as it didnt work when I did it the first time.
I suspect that you could disable the play store by setting <pkg name="com.android.vending" enabled="1"> to <pkg name="com.android.vending" inst="false ">
This could easily be incorporated into a ROM by one of our talented developers. If I had any idea how i would give it a try.

This is great... I'm going to use this for my daughter
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so we need an app that enable apps for other users...

nuzzosono said:
so we need an app that enable apps for other users...
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Yes. That is correct. I set up eclipse this afternoon to tinker around and gauge the difficulty of app building. It was quite overwhelming. I guess should have listened better in my programming class.
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If the second profile be using a G account diferent from first profile this shouldnt be target as piracy?
Just asking.
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maztahbr said:
If the second profile be using a G account diferent from first profile this shouldnt be target as piracy?
Just asking.
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In my case I don't plan on allowing an Google account to be added to the second user. The way I see it is if its already on my device its ok. Just like other profiles on my computer can access my music and some applications. I think its more a matter of morality that legality. I don't think you would ever be busted for it.

Yeah, but i think that Google app are allowed/linked per account, isnt?
If you dont have the account than you dont have the app
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maztahbr said:
Yeah, but i think that Google app are allowed/linked per account, isnt?
If you dont have the account than you dont have the app
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If that is how you feel you don't have to participate. I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.

maztahbr said:
If the second profile be using a G account diferent from first profile this shouldnt be target as piracy?
Just asking.
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Well, Google has no problem with us tagging our account to a new user account to obtain apps so I don't see any problem with having the apps there without the tagged account.
As said, this is our device. It should be our choice which of our paid apps another user has access to on our own device.
I'd say that Google just hasn't thought it out too good.

DeadlyDazza said:
... I'd say that Google just hasn't thought it out too good.
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I think Google thought it out very well, and the provided implementation works great for the device owners.
I really can't think of any other implementation that would work out as well for my daughter and me sharing one device.

Is the goal to avoid the cost of a 2nd copy of the app, or avoiding the need for a second account? Or for some reason I'm missing?
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Nexus 7
Clean ROM 3.0 - Leankernel 0.8.x

Certainly the goal for me was to provide a limited subset of my total apps to my daughter, and to keep her GMail / Facebook / etc accounts
separate from mine. I hated her logging me out every time she used my tablet...

When I heard about multiple profiles in 4.2, I about shat a brick. "How cool! I don't share my Nexus 7 with my family members, but I could totally set up my tablet to have different types of interfaces for different situations! I could have one profile dedicated to operation within my car in landscape mode, and another profile for general use... hell, I could have a profile that creates a 'faux PC UI' so I can get some work done in KingSoft!"
Nope. No app sharing. I can't help but feel that Google tacked this on as a last-minute thing--in fact, the whole of 4.2 feels very "last minute" since all they really added was **** that you could already get baked into other really popular ROMs like notification bar widgets. And even then, they only functioned as links to my settings (or, since I'm on the wonderfully buggy 4.2, the bluetooth button functioned as an annoyance that reminded me to restart my device if I wanted to turn bluetooth off). I've been pretty disappointed with Google lately: the Nexus Q went nowhere fast, the Nexus 4 launch was abysmal, 4.2 had some awful bugs and it detracted from the smoothness of the 4.1, and even 4.2.1 has its share of bugs.
Well, thanks to this thread, I can at least get more out of my N7 in my car and in other situations that require me to have the tablet UI function slightly differently.

It would be quite easy to whip up an app that notified the user an app was installed and to make those modifications to the xml file (for rooted devices).
Is that something people would be interested in?
e.g. Install app, once installed, a notification window shows asking if you would like this app to be enabled for all users.
Let me know, I could prob do this tonight (or on the weekend if I run out of time).

-df- said:
It would be quite easy to whip up an app that notified the user an app was installed and to make those modifications to the xml file (for rooted devices).
Is that something people would be interested in?
e.g. Install app, once installed, a notification window shows asking if you would like this app to be enabled for all users.
Let me know, I could prob do this tonight (or on the weekend if I run out of time).
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An app would be great. I think most people don't like digging through the files on their device for fear of messing something up.
I think it would be better if the user had to initialize the app instead of it being automatic. A list of installed apps like in the drawer groups part of nova launcher (see screenshot) that you could check or un-check if you wanted them available to the other users would be nice. It's up to you though. I'm glad you are interested in though. I think many will benefit from this.
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Ryou_Concord said:
When I heard about multiple profiles in 4.2, I about shat a brick. "How cool! I don't share my Nexus 7 with my family members, but I could totally set up my tablet to have different types of interfaces for different situations! I could have one profile dedicated to operation within my car in landscape mode, and another profile for general use... hell, I could have a profile that creates a 'faux PC UI' so I can get some work done in KingSoft!"
Nope. No app sharing. I can't help but feel that Google tacked this on as a last-minute thing--in fact, the whole of 4.2 feels very "last minute" since all they really added was **** that you could already get baked into other really popular ROMs like notification bar widgets. And even then, they only functioned as links to my settings (or, since I'm on the wonderfully buggy 4.2, the bluetooth button functioned as an annoyance that reminded me to restart my device if I wanted to turn bluetooth off). I've been pretty disappointed with Google lately: the Nexus Q went nowhere fast, the Nexus 4 launch was abysmal, 4.2 had some awful bugs and it detracted from the smoothness of the 4.1, and even 4.2.1 has its share of bugs.
Well, thanks to this thread, I can at least get more out of my N7 in my car and in other situations that require me to have the tablet UI function slightly differently.
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I'm glad this has helped you. Though, if I understand you correctly, I think it would be easier for you to add your gmail account to each of your profiles as you will be the only one using them. This is more for those that want a guest account for their kids or friends.
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mentose457 said:
An app would be great. I think most people don't like digging through the files on their device for fear of messing something up.
I think it would be better if the user had to initialize the app instead of it being automatic. A list of installed apps like in the drawer groups part of nova launcher (see screenshot) that you could check or un-check if you wanted them available to the other users would be nice. It's up to you though. I'm glad you are interested in though. I think many will benefit from this.
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Cool, I'll look into it tonight or this weekend if the kids are keeping me busy.

Awesome idea.
Guest Account without my Gmail NOT attached but all my apps (that I would want available) would be great for when friends and family come over and want to mess with it! Right now I use App Protector but I prefer not to.

[Q] iOS on KFHD 7" | Possible?

Hello,
been quite a long time, since my last Android device, but now I´m back again. A few years ago I was really amazed, when it was possible to run Android and iOS simultaneously on a iPhone 2G. This is why I´m asking whether it is possible (or maybe anybody already did) to run iOS on the KFHD. The reason why I have that idea is, because it´d make it much smoother to integrate the KFHD into my existing Apple "eco"-system and just to play around.
And please don´t say "buy an iPad" or whatever... if we´d like to run our devices just as they were assembled and sold, you and I won´t be here on xda ?
Thank you

OlDirty89 said:
Hello,
been quite a long time, since my last Android device, but now I´m back again. A few years ago I was really amazed, when it was possible to run Android and iOS simultaneously on a iPhone 2G. This is why I´m asking whether it is possible (or maybe anybody already did) to run iOS on the KFHD. The reason why I have that idea is, because it´d make it much smoother to integrate the KFHD into my existing Apple "eco"-system and just to play around.
And please don´t say "buy an iPad" or whatever... if we´d like to run our devices just as they were assembled and sold, you and I won´t be here on xda ?
Thank you
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Dude,it's not possible.
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You do realise that iOS is not open source right? Technically the kernel sources were supposed to be published but apple found a loophole and didn't want to publish them last I heard, but yea the os itself isn't open source.
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I dont want to live on this planet anymore.
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There is one sure "fire" way.....
Wait for it....
Keep waiting.......
Buy an Ipad.......
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I want some of what the OP is smoking
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OlDirty89 said:
Hello,
been quite a long time, since my last Android device, but now I´m back again. A few years ago I was really amazed, when it was possible to run Android and iOS simultaneously on a iPhone 2G. This is why I´m asking whether it is possible (or maybe anybody already did) to run iOS on the KFHD. The reason why I have that idea is, because it´d make it much smoother to integrate the KFHD into my existing Apple "eco"-system and just to play around.
And please don´t say "buy an iPad" or whatever... if we´d like to run our devices just as they were assembled and sold, you and I won´t be here on xda ?
Thank you
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my eyes!!!!!!!!! i cant see this !

¬_¬ what has humanity come to ? Why would you even want iOS on your device ? It's just unheard of.

AndroidBronyGuy said:
¬_¬ what has humanity come to ? Why would you even want iOS on your device ? It's just unheard of.
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Why would I even want Windows on my PC? Thankfully people and their needs/preferences differ

OlDirty89 said:
Why would I even want Windows on my PC? Thankfully people and their needs/preferences differ
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You wouldn't want it, why ? Because of good ol' linux.

´cause I´m happy with Mac.
And yes...I ran every possible system on my machines...MacBook Pro with Win/OSX and PC with Hackintosh/Win/Linux. Also Windows Mobile, iOS and Android. OSX and iOS is what I´m most productive with.

OlDirty89 said:
´cause I´m happy with Mac.
And yes...I ran every possible system on my machines...MacBook Pro with Win/OSX and PC with Hackintosh/Win/Linux. Also Windows Mobile, iOS and Android. OSX and iOS is what I´m most productive with.
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Honestly, How can you be so productive with iOS ? it's locked down as **** .

Eh its not as bad if you jailbreak it, it even has a debianesq apt package management system and ssh access. I still have my 2nd gen iPod touch lying around...
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AndroidBronyGuy said:
Honestly, How can you be so productive with iOS ? it's locked down as **** .
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It's because it's locked down that you're forced to be productive. Or else you'd just be wasting time cocking around with the customization options
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stunts513 said:
Eh its not as bad if you jailbreak it, it even has a debianesq apt package management system and ssh access. I still have my 2nd gen iPod touch lying around...
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I don't mind the IOS but only IPod/IPhone 3rd generation or lower, Because they can run Android (not very stable).

One question.
Of all of you who are dissing the OP, his/her idea, and iOS itself, how many of you actually tried it? And by try it, I don't mean glance at your friends iPhone and called it crap. How many of you have used it for at least a week, integrating iOS into your digital life? I've got two Android devices, as well as an iPod touch running iOS 7, and believe it or not, I like it. Sure, I don't like Apple's walled garden ecosystem, but it's no different than Amazon locking down our own Kindles.
I digress, but my point is, don't knock it until you try it. We are a community of developers, and our main goal is to make our devices better in ways the original developers didn't. If one person decides he wants port iOS to our Kindles, who are we to judge him? Even if it isn't possible, what reason it's that to ridicule him/her?
As much as I love it here at XDA,I have to admit that I am a bit ashamed of the single-mindedness that Android is superior to all mobile operating systems (yes we have forums for some others, but still).
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Ph0enix_216 said:
One question.
Of all of you who are dissing the OP, his/her idea, and iOS itself, how many of you actually tried it? And by try it, I don't mean glance at your friends iPhone and called it crap. How many of you have used it for at least a week, integrating iOS into your digital life?
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Me.

Lol @ iOS on Android. Android is superior to iOS in every way. No offense to those who like iOS and their inferior products...
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[Q] How to root Asus Memo Pad 7 (me176c/me176cx) 2014 version

Hello, I just recently bought the Asus memo pad 7 and have been looking on how to root the device. This model is different from the 2013 model which is the me173x. I have the me176cx, which is Intel based. I was going to use the framaroot app but it isn't officially supported and there aren't any posts about this model since it recently came out within the last month. So I'm pretty much asking if anyone has ever rooted the device? It's on android 4.4.2 too. Thanks.

Just bought the same device, want to root too. Tried UnlockRoot, didn't work.

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Anonimust0704 said:
Hello, I just recently bought the Asus memo pad 7 and have been looking on how to root the device. This model is different from the 2013 model which is the me173x. I have the me176cx, which is Intel based. I was going to use the framaroot app but it isn't officially supported and there aren't any posts about this model since it recently came out within the last month. So I'm pretty much asking if anyone has ever rooted the device? It's on android 4.4.2 too. Thanks.
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I recently bought a Asus Memo Pad ME176cx, KitKat 4.4.2. The microSD card I bought for it is nearly useless because the OS prevents most apps from writing to the microSD. *grrrr*
I want to store dictionaries and maps on the microSD. I'll give up some security for the convenience of having more and removable storage. Google & Asus, are you listening, do you care at all?
Any workarounds I have read about require rooting.
I really want to root this thing soon.

On the 4.4 Google removed the permissions to apps write in SD.
Unfortunately, can't find any root to the device.

I'd like root for this device as well. It's not as necessary as you'd expect but I like full control of my systems and devices. Should we start a bounty?

I hope someone root this device. I need to put my apps in the sd card.

I wish you guys all the luck in busting open this device. It was a nice tablet except for being locked down. Unfortunately my solution was to return the MP7 and buy a refurb Nexus 7. If the MP7 gets root and CyanogenMod, I'll get one and give my wife the Nexus.

Don't worry guys. Like in every new tech one has to analyse and test solutions.
It's not impossible. I have the same tablet. Bought it on Staples for €160.
I believe it will be the future of tablets. judging by these antutu benchmarks:
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A root solution will be possible soon. You can always try to install Windows 8 CE on it. It's possible!

bravesoul said:
Don't worry guys. Like in every new tech one has to analyse and test solutions.
It's not impossible. I have the same tablet. Bought it on Staples for €160.
A root solution will be possible soon. You can always try to install Windows 8 CE on it. It's possible!
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Funny that ASUS have no details of how to install CE on it anywhere on the support site. Not that I'd go down that path anyway - throwing WinMobile on it gives you less chance of full system control than what you get from gaining root with Android...
All good, a bit of patience will get Towelroot working with the new changes to the Android kernels, and we'll be happy again...
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I have the same tablet. Bought it on Staples for €160.
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I paid AU$195 (£109) from a well-known Australian hi-fi store (that paints its stores yellow) over the weekend just gone, and from that I declare you, bravesoul, to have been ripped off...

If you would be so kind and show the guide how to install w8 ce on asus memo pad 7 (2014)?

djshotty said:
Funny that ASUS have no details of how to install CE on it anywhere on the support site. Not that I'd go down that path anyway - throwing WinMobile on it gives you less chance of full system control than what you get from gaining root with Android...
All good, a bit of patience will get Towelroot working with the new changes to the Android kernels, and we'll be happy again...
I paid AU$195 (£109) from a well-known Australian hi-fi store (that paints its stores yellow) over the weekend just gone, and from that I declare you, bravesoul, to have been ripped off...
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Why thank you djshotty but you see, Staples hasn't ripped me off. My government did. All because we have a stupid law in Portugal that whatever you buy, has an enviroment tax plus VAT plus whatever Staples ask for, plus the gas/tires i spent to get to the store equals €160. (Yes, I can add)...
I know, i know, you bought it online (i presume). But the thing is, I hate buying stuff online. Most especialy if the store is in another country. All because if something goes wrong with the delivery, you can go ask sainta for a new (in this case) tablet... That said, I don't think it was a rip off considering what I said above.

bravesoul said:
I know, i know, you bought it online (i presume).
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You obviously only read the bit about you getting your tablet at a much higher price than I paid, yet not taking any notice of my comment that I purchased the item from a retail store, over the counter, off the shelf and in my hands immediately. JB Hi-Fi are one of Australia's biggest retailers of electronics and media (CD's, DVD's, BluRay). Enjoy the device, mate, because once we get 'root access' and rid it of all the rubbish included with the stock firmware we'll have a powerhouse for minimal outlay...

KingoRoot(http://www.kingoapp.com/)
someone tried to quest softwares x the root?
I can not xche and in order

Kingo doesn't work, or at least it didn't as of my previous post in this thread.

Also looking for a root method
I just ordered one of these myself and am hoping for a root method. I've read that sometimes Asus actually post a way to fully unlock the bootloader (eventually) on their site because with tablets there are no carriers involved and they don't care if you do this especially as it voids your warranty and basically gives them a free pass if sometime stops working later. Not sure if this will actually happen for this device but would be nice.
Otherwise, hoping some brilliant minded android dev out there figures out a way....

hollywoodfrodo said:
I just ordered one of these myself and am hoping for a root method. I've read that sometimes Asus actually post a way to fully unlock the bootloader (eventually) on their site because with tablets there are no carriers involved and they don't care if you do this especially as it voids your warranty and basically gives them a free pass if sometime stops working later. Not sure if this will actually happen for this device but would be nice.
Otherwise, hoping some brilliant minded android dev out there figures out a way....
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Same as you, cos there's a heap of bloatware in the stock ROM that I'm hopeful of keeping away from my seven year old daughter. Not only that, but the bloatware takes away from the full RAM bandwidth and processor power, even after disabling those apps in Settings...

Just picked one up from Amazon for $135. I have every confidence that before long the geniuses at this fine forum will have this pretty little tablet rooted and kicking a** before long. With a quad core atom, yes, it will be a power house. First, the bloat ware will go away, then a month or two later Cyanogenmod will be running on it with nightly's.

gtaber said:
Just picked one up from Amazon for $135. I have every confidence that before long the geniuses at this fine forum will have this pretty little tablet rooted and kicking a** before long. With a quad core atom, yes, it will be a power house. First, the bloat ware will go away, then a month or two later Cyanogenmod will be running on it with nightly's.
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The Device can be rooted with RootZenFone -1.4.2r. And this is link http://d-h.st/1MK
I've tried it and it is working.
Thanks to dusty8, who brought it to our attention yesterday.

How you do it? I'm getting error on install. Package error.

Post a screenshot of the error. Press and hold Power and Volume Down at the same time to capture the screenshot.

Security and Privacy concerns about "Uninstall" through icons

Greetings to all.
I'm not sure whether this should go here the Note 8 forum or into Android 7 Nougat forum (if there is such a forum here), but the Nougat I have on my Note 8 is allowing something I really cannot accept: the Uninstall function through long-pressing an app icon.
You see, I'm both a "security freak" and a "privacy freak", and I believe some of you may be able to feel what I'm saying. So I'm currently using an app locker (because I want to protect my phone in case someone snatches my Note 8 away from my hands while I'm using it so it'd surely still be unlocked during then), but this way of uninstalling apps directly bypasses the app locker and immediately uninstalls the target app. While my app locker could protect my data and info, it couldn't protect my phone from intentional attempts to wreak havoc.
So my questions are these 2:
1) Is there any way to completely disable uninstalling through all other ways except through Settings? (Because Settings can be app-locked.)
2) If the above isn't possible, is there any GOOD app locker that could lock the relevant system components to prevent any uninstalling attempt but at the same time requiring as little permissions as possible?
I wish there is a solution to this.
Thank all of you very much.

Just use a Nokia 3210?
I'm kidding. It's a phone... If you're that worried about securing it don't have anything that can compromise your fears. It's no different to a wallet or a watch. If someone wants... They'll get it.

I'm having a hard time understanding what the point of this is. If someone snatched the phone out of your hands before it was locked and walked off with it, is it going to matter if they uninstall your apps? Your phone is now stolen, so you probably won't be using it again. This is like asking if there's some way of stopping a car thief from changing the radio station presets on your stereo.

Maybe hire security guard? At least carry baseball bat or something. Of course there is Google cloud backup, Samsung cloud back up and side sync for back up to computer on top of secure folder on the phone, but you could fool everybody by buying fake Note 8 for $100, with nothing on it, while your real phone is in a bank safe.

pete4k said:
Maybe hire security guard? At least carry baseball bat or something. Of course there is Google cloud backup, Samsung cloud back up and side sync for back up to computer on top of secure folder on the phone, but you could fool everybody by buying fake Note 8 for $100, with nothing on it, while your real phone is in a bank safe.
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Or maybe the OP could install a bunch of apps they don't want and remove all the shortcuts for apps they do use. Then, if the mugger uninstalls the apps on the homescreen, they're doing the OP a favour by uninstalling apps they don't want anyway.

Move important apps to secure folder....can use iris or finger print etc for permission
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The secure folder app can't be uninstalled. Unless you're using a rooted Note 8 and it gets stolen then that's a different story but you suggest that you're keen on security so I'm assuming your phone is not rooted, right? Whatever files you're paranoid of others getting their hands on just put them in a secure folder using the secure folder app that's already on your Note 8. If they disable it or just remove the shortcut or hide it it's not going to be accessed without your password/pin/biometric so your stuff will be safe.
Just be aware of your surrounding while you're out and about. Exercise basic self awareness and security habits to help keep you safe and your belongings safe. Good luck.

I think I didn't explain clear enough.
Well of course I do know if someone...... practically ROBS my phone from me there absolutely isn't anything I could do. What I want to protect against here isn't robbers or bad people with intention to make my phone theirs, but people whom I know and are around me who don't really want to rob or steal but just want to cause trouble.
But from the above responses I can imagine there are no the kind of solutions I'm looking for, only other ways.

Get new friends....

Voidity said:
What I want to protect against here isn't robbers or bad people with intention to make my phone theirs, but people whom I know and are around me who don't really want to rob or steal but just want to cause trouble.
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Damn, bro. Change the company you keep. That's some shady-sounding sheet right there.

Voidity said:
Greetings to all.
I'm not sure whether this should go here the Note 8 forum or into Android 7 Nougat forum (if there is such a forum here), but the Nougat I have on my Note 8 is allowing something I really cannot accept: the Uninstall function through long-pressing an app icon.
You see, I'm both a "security freak" and a "privacy freak", and I believe some of you may be able to feel what I'm saying. So I'm currently using an app locker (because I want to protect my phone in case someone snatches my Note 8 away from my hands while I'm using it so it'd surely still be unlocked during then), but this way of uninstalling apps directly bypasses the app locker and immediately uninstalls the target app. While my app locker could protect my data and info, it couldn't protect my phone from intentional attempts to wreak havoc.
So my questions are these 2:
1) Is there any way to completely disable uninstalling through all other ways except through Settings? (Because Settings can be app-locked.)
2) If the above isn't possible, is there any GOOD app locker that could lock the relevant system components to prevent any uninstalling attempt but at the same time requiring as little permissions as possible?
I wish there is a solution to this.
Thank all of you very much.
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Use Samsung Secure Folder you can put any apps you want a 2nd layer of security on in there, including any files and/or pictures.

ShrekOpher said:
Use Samsung Secure Folder you can put any apps you want a 2nd layer of security on in there, including any files and/or pictures.
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Already been mentioned. What this guy needs is new peers who respect boundaries.
......or a wicked uppercut!!

To protect my phone from everyone who is trying to take a peak at me in nothing but my buffalo briefs, I keep a picture of a naked monkey as my wallpaper...so far I have never had anyone try to steal my phone...knocking on wood right now...

Voidity said:
I think I didn't explain clear enough.
Well of course I do know if someone...... practically ROBS my phone from me there absolutely isn't anything I could do. What I want to protect against here isn't robbers or bad people with intention to make my phone theirs, but people whom I know and are around me who don't really want to rob or steal but just want to cause trouble.
But from the above responses I can imagine there are no the kind of solutions I'm looking for, only other ways.
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There are two ways to do this. An easy way and a hard way.
Hard Method
Go to Contacts
Delete all
Eject SIM card. Discard.
Get new SIM card with new number. Insert in phone.
Move somewhere else with less d*ckheads.
Easy Method
Grow a backbone.

I thank all of you for letting me know, in you all's own ways, there is no way to disable that "Uninstall". I also thank you for suggesting the use of Secure Folder. I'm already using it.
This thread is now done.

Question To root or not to root?

Hello everyone,
Today marks the 1 year anniversary of my S21 Ultra, thus, my warranty ended. That being said I'm thinking about rooting my phone now. But I do have some questions beforehand. I know that you'll lose access to Samsung health, Samsung pay/pass, and Secure folder for good. But will I be able to use applications like local Banking applications? And is there any other risks that I'm not aware of?

Not worth the time for workarounds and patches to make things work or losing HD streaming on nearly all paid streaming service. Wavelet is an excellent non-root alternative to V4A. As a former flash a holic goodlock has been more than sufficient for my needs. On top of that you will lose that awesome trade in value Sammy tends to give to customers. Rooting always comes with a risk as one mishap may result in a bricked device. That's my two cents.

mookiexl said:
Not worth the time for workarounds and patches to make things work or losing HD streaming on nearly all paid streaming service. Wavelet is an excellent non-root alternative to V4A. As a former flash a holic goodlock has been more than sufficient for my needs. On top of that you will lose that awesome trade in value Sammy tends to give to customers. Rooting always comes with a risk as one mishap may result in a bricked device. That's my two cents.
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Perfect answer. s21u rom development has been slow compared to my previous devices as well

mookiexl said:
Not worth the time for workarounds and patches to make things work or losing HD streaming on nearly all paid streaming service. Wavelet is an excellent non-root alternative to V4A. As a former flash a holic goodlock has been more than sufficient for my needs. On top of that you will lose that awesome trade in value Sammy tends to give to customers. Rooting always comes with a risk as one mishap may result in a bricked device. That's my two cents.
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Wait, I'll lose HD streaming on paid streaming services wth? lmao, that's new. Other than the trading issue which I really don't need since my device actually has a screen crack, they won't give me a lot even if I wanted to trade., is there really anything else?

mookiexl said:
Not worth the time for workarounds and patches to make things work or losing HD streaming on nearly all paid streaming service. Wavelet is an excellent non-root alternative to V4A. As a former flash a holic goodlock has been more than sufficient for my needs. On top of that you will lose that awesome trade in value Sammy tends to give to customers. Rooting always comes with a risk as one mishap may result in a bricked device. That's my two cents.
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Agreed on this as well. This is the first Android I've owned since the Razr Maxx that I have not rooted. Before this phone, I found root to be absolutely necessary. With this phone plus the automated scripting provided by ADB Appcontrol and added Samsung customizability, I am 95% happy with my unrooted root-like abilities and 1000% happy with the device itself.
What I miss: abilities within Titanium such as full backups/snapshots/XML backups & freezing background apps from within the device. The ability to skip entitlement check from Verizon when I'm (legally) tethering.
I've chosen to live without this. When you cross over into unlocked BL, there is no going back. That alone could be horribly disappointing when you're paid such a premium and gotten used to such a kick ass device like the s21 Ultra. Doing this & experiencing highly diminished returns is one of those decisions that sounds like it'll create great regret.

burnxtc said:
Agreed on this as well. This is the first Android I've owned since the Razr Maxx that I have not rooted. Before this phone, I found root to be absolutely necessary. With this phone plus the automated scripting provided by ADB Appcontrol and added Samsung customizability, I am 95% happy with my unrooted root-like abilities and 1000% happy with the device itself.
What I miss: abilities within Titanium such as full backups/snapshots/XML backups & freezing background apps from within the device. The ability to skip entitlement check from Verizon when I'm (legally) tethering.
I've chosen to live without this. When you cross over into unlocked BL, there is no going back. That alone could be horribly disappointing when you're paid such a premium and gotten used to such a kick ass device like the s21 Ultra. Doing this & experiencing highly diminished returns is one of those decisions that sounds like it'll create great regret.
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Yes titanium and swift back-up truly have no alternative. As far as freezing the abundance of system apps, Shizuku with Icebox does the exact same thing and only require a few initial ADB commands to set up. Just by all means don't freeze Device services (com.samsung.android.kgclient)
https://shizuku.rikka.app/apps/

I rooted my S21 ultra at the start out of force of habit. I ended up locking the bootloader again and putting it back to normal. There just wasn't enough gains to warrant keeping it like that. And Viper audio doesn't work properly with the latest OS anyway.

mookiexl said:
Not worth the time for workarounds and patches to make things work or losing HD streaming on nearly all paid streaming service. Wavelet is an excellent non-root alternative to V4A. As a former flash a holic goodlock has been more than sufficient for my needs. On top of that you will lose that awesome trade in value Sammy tends to give to customers. Rooting always comes with a risk as one mishap may result in a bricked device. That's my two cents.
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Hopefully Samsung will remember what a Note is, to include a nested spen on the right side, that's there's plenty of room for the SD card too, to tone down the scoped storage nightmare and a big fat battery isn't the same as efficiency... maybe on the next generation (unlikely) flagship release.
If that happens you will want to recover as much from the trade in as possible for this beautiful phone.
Rooting can't solve it's core issues...

mookiexl said:
Not worth the time for workarounds and patches to make things work or losing HD streaming on nearly all paid streaming service. Wavelet is an excellent non-root alternative to V4A. As a former flash a holic goodlock has been more than sufficient for my needs. On top of that you will lose that awesome trade in value Sammy tends to give to customers. Rooting always comes with a risk as one mishap may result in a bricked device. That's my two cents.
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Kind of unrelated to root, but I'm happy to hear about a competent alternative to Viper. It's always been that one thing that's been missing for me since I got off my rooted Note 8 years ago.

Personally would only consider root when they stop the security updates. OS is still revolving and updating. The first answer on this post is spot on.

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Personally would only consider root when they stop the security updates. OS is still revolving and updating. The first answer on this post is spot on.
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Anything from Pie up is reasonably secure if you don't do stupid things.
This stock N10+ is still running on Pie and this load will be 2 yo this June. Security simply hasn't been an issue. I disable wifi, watch what I install, hawk the download folder, use Karma Firewall, Brave browser, no social media apps are installed and occasionally run malware scans. It's a very drama free load, that's fast, stable, requires minimal maintenance... and fulfills its mission.

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Anything from Pie up is reasonably secure if you don't do stupid things.
This stock N10+ is still running on Pie and this load will be 2 yo this June. Security simply hasn't been an issue. I disable wifi, watch what I install, hawk the download folder, use Karma Firewall, Brave browser, no social media apps are installed and occasionally run malware scans. It's a very drama free load, that's fast, stable, requires minimal maintenance... and fulfills its mission.
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I can see the future of my S21U on your comment haha

blackhawk said:
Anything from Pie up is reasonably secure if you don't do stupid things.
This stock N10+ is still running on Pie and this load will be 2 yo this June. Security simply hasn't been an issue. I disable wifi, watch what I install, hawk the download folder, use Karma Firewall, Brave browser, no social media apps are installed and occasionally run malware scans. It's a very drama free load, that's fast, stable, requires minimal maintenance... and fulfills its mission.
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Well said, as usual.
I operate nearly identically. Whenever people send me screenshots of gifs etc. I'm always voyeuristically looking at their status bars then I nag them like a neurotic stepmother - "dude what's with all those background processes" "is that an xbox icon? you don't own an xbox" "do you want me to tell you how to disable 'network notification?'" "how many friggin bt devices do you own for pete's sake" "snapchat? what are you turning into?"

burnxtc said:
Well said, as usual.
I operate nearly identically. Whenever people send me screenshots of gifs etc. I'm always voyeuristically looking at their status bars then I nag them like a neurotic stepmother - "dude what's with all those background processes" "is that an xbox icon? you don't own an xbox" "do you want me to tell you how to disable 'network notification?'" "how many friggin bt devices do you own for pete's sake" "snapchat? what are you turning into?"
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People make a mess of their phones then wonder why they're slow, eat battery and have malware issues. Those same people then blame the phone manufacturer when the junk they installed is far worse than the factory bloatware.
They just don't get it... and their homepage looks like a Tokyo billboard

burnxtc said:
Agreed on this as well. This is the first Android I've owned since the Razr Maxx that I have not rooted. Before this phone, I found root to be absolutely necessary. With this phone plus the automated scripting provided by ADB Appcontrol and added Samsung customizability, I am 95% happy with my unrooted root-like abilities and 1000% happy with the device itself.
What I miss: abilities within Titanium such as full backups/snapshots/XML backups & freezing background apps from within the device. The ability to skip entitlement check from Verizon when I'm (legally) tethering.
I've chosen to live without this. When you cross over into unlocked BL, there is no going back. That alone could be horribly disappointing when you're paid such a premium and gotten used to such a kick ass device like the s21 Ultra. Doing this & experiencing highly diminished returns is one of those decisions that sounds like it'll create great regret.
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I LOVE Titanium Backup!
Just purchased my first NEW phone (usually wait and get renewed or version 1 version down fro the latest) S22 Ultra. Fine... But I keep hearing in the back of my mind, "TITANIUM BACKUP"!

mookiexl said:
Yes titanium and swift back-up truly have no alternative. As far as freezing the abundance of system apps, Shizuku with Icebox does the exact same thing and only require a few initial ADB commands to set up. Just by all means don't freeze Device services (com.samsung.android.kgclient)
https://shizuku.rikka.app/apps/
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Just installed both Shizuku & Icebox and it's functioning as it should. Thanks for the tip!

jameslapc2 said:
Kind of unrelated to root, but I'm happy to hear about a competent alternative to Viper. It's always been that one thing that's been missing for me since I got off my rooted Note 8 years ago.
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i had wavelet on my S21 Ultra, to me its neither here nor there if i have it or not. Definitely nowhere near the gains from V4A but anyway...

I'm on CVC4 build, rooted with the BKLYN kernel v1.2.6 (permissive). Everything work fine, VIPER INCLUDED. I used some tweaks to pass safetynet with original fingerprint and device model. I'm now able to use Samsung Health. I also installed a module to disable thermal throttling.
I decided to broke the knox warranty bit after 1 year (i have 2 years warranty) and i don't regret it
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I'm on CVC4 build, rooted with the BKLYN kernel v1.2.6 (permissive). Everything work fine, VIPER INCLUDED. I used some tweaks to pass safetynet with original fingerprint and device model. I'm now able to use Samsung Health. I also installed a module to disable thermal throttling.
I decided to broke the knox warranty bit after 1 year (i have 2 years warranty) and i don't regret it
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Sorry for the slight off topic, though I'll be receiving my device this week and so wonder if you could let me know which viper (and any other necessary steps) to get it working? Thanks!

@cd993 Of course !
once your phone is rooted, you have to flash the BKLYN kernel (credit: @bklyn_syed). See the attachment.
This one has a permissive SELinux, Viper doesn't work on enforcing ones.
WARNING: if your s21 is not the p3s model, don't flash it ! To find out which model you have, download aida64 and go to system/device. You also need to FORMAT (not wipe) the data partition from TWRP after flashing the kernel before rebooting. You'll just end up with a bootloop if you don't
Once done, Download viper v2.7.2.1 from attachment. Launch it and click on ok (driver installation) after the reboot, enable Legacy mode (not compatibility mode) in Viper settings. Enjoy !
Before you root your s21u, i recommend you to downgrade it to CVC4. (It's just a recommendation)
Btw, i understood what you meant in your topic, i was just "making an ad" for my phone to show you that it's worth it to root your s21u. Sorry for the confusion !