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Can all developers please share some information regarding job interviews?
I would like to know how to improve myself in a interview for development and how to improve my answers in order to make myself more appealing.
Here are some questions that i've been asked and would like to know how to improve the answers too:
1) When you need help with coding, what do you do? - what sites do you use? - How do you approach a solution?
2) When do you approach you senior developer?
3) How do you keep up to date ?
4) Give me an example of when you solved a difficult problem using PHP (or whataever language)
Basically many examples need to be given, not sure how to answer them.
There are other questions that I'll ask when they come to mind.
I need some input guys!! or at least guide me in the right direction please
mojo22 said:
1) When you need help with coding, what do you do? - what sites do you use? - How do you approach a solution?
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If I do go for a site, I first use Google and anything relevant to what I'm already trying to do to solve the problem. If Google doesn't help, or the answers are too vague and I need something more specific then there's no better help out there than StackOverflow. If you don't know it, get to know it
Also, see the next question.
mojo22 said:
2) When do you approach you senior developer?
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In the above scenario, after you've tried for yourself for a while at least. A senior dev will get narked if you keep hassling them without at least trying to help yourself!
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3) How do you keep up to date ?
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Learn to prioritise. There's nothing really more to say about that as it's a personal experience thing. Make sure you keep notes of every task you need to do and mark it done when it's done, no matter how trivial it seems. You get better at it the more you do it.
mojo22 said:
4) Give me an example of when you solved a difficult problem using PHP (or whataever language)
Basically many examples need to be given, not sure how to answer them.
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This is obviously a very personal question that no-one can answer for you. I'm not gonna tell you about any projects I've worked on and had to deal with problems because there's no point. If you give it as an example they'll only ask you to expand on it and you won't be able to. Besides, it's all well and good trying to impress, but don't out-and-out lie at an interview. Basically, they just want to know that you *can* solve problems. Tell them something where you learnt something that you were able to use again - it shows a willingness to learn, the ability to understand there are things you need to learn, and that you can grow from such a situation.
Other than that, be confident and remember that they've got you in for an interview because they're already interested. Also, it's not a 1-way street. They might be arseholes that you'd never work for. The interview is as much for you as it is for them.
Not sure if any of that has been any help, but they're my honest answers anyway.
Good luck, and let us know how you get on
Archer said:
If I do go for a site, I first use Google and anything relevant to what I'm already trying to do to solve the problem. If Google doesn't help, or the answers are too vague and I need something more specific then there's no better help out there than StackOverflow. If you don't know it, get to know it
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This was indeed my exact answer! For some reason that is seen as a 'junior' solution believe it or not! I'm so pissed cause that is what people do...even seniors.
Archer said:
Learn to prioritise. There's nothing really more to say about that as it's a personal experience thing. Make sure you keep notes of every task you need to do and mark it done when it's done, no matter how trivial it seems. You get better at it the more you do it.
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The question was more regarding, how do you keep up to date with software/tech basically. For example Wordpress has been updated. How did you know about it etc.
There is a new CMS system, how do you find out about it? etc.
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This is obviously a very personal question that no-one can answer for you. I'm not gonna tell you about any projects I've worked on and had to deal with
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I did try answer this question as you stated, it is hard though cause there was like 12 of them, giving constant examples was a PITA. I deal with it every day yet I found it awkward to sit there and tell a stranger all about it and that I am capable of handling it....
Archer said:
Other than that, be confident and remember that they've got you in for an interview because they're already interested. Also, it's not a 1-way street. They might be arseholes that you'd never work for. The interview is as much for you as it is for them.
Not sure if any of that has been any help, but they're my honest answers anyway.
Good luck, and let us know how you get on
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Thanks a lot for your answer It DOES help! :good:
I will try to learn these pointer so that they are second nature. I need to boost my confidence too it's just that I try not to be arrogant and it actually become a downhill after that.
I need to improve my answers and don't know where to ask!
mojo22 said:
The question was more regarding, how do you keep up to date with software/tech basically. For example Wordpress has been updated. How did you know about it etc.
There is a new CMS system, how do you find out about it? etc.
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In that case, tech blogs with RSS feeds. I use iGoogle as my home page both at home and at work and it has different feeds on there for different bits of tech (web development, windows development, mobile development etc..)
Also, I think confidence is best when it's natural. If you've not got it yet then just keep getting better at what you're doing and you'll eventually get it. I've been doing it a long time now so only get a slight flutter of nerves at interviews. It's normally just a case of answering questions honestly and asking a couple of good ones back and I get the job. There's a lot of people out there doing development work, but not that many that have stuck it out and got actually good at it. Stick at it and you'll become a valuable commodity!
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In that case, tech blogs with RSS feeds. I use iGoogle as my home page both at home and at work and it has different feeds on there for different bits of tech (web development, windows development, mobile development etc..)
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Thanks, what sort of feeds are you subscribed too?
I think I need to do something like this. Also, is it productive for developers to be on G+? Is there a benefit?
You know the answer to the question about solving a problem was to go to the original source, like wordpress has their own codex/reference site. Php has theirs, jQuery and all that. I use those site but didn't even consider stating it in the interview.
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Also, I think confidence is best when it's natural. If you've not got it yet then just keep getting better at what you're doing and you'll eventually get it. I've been doing it a long time now so only get a slight flutter of nerves at interviews. It's normally just a case of answering questions honestly and asking a couple of good ones back and I get the job. There's a lot of people out there doing development work, but not that many that have stuck it out and got actually good at it. Stick at it and you'll become a valuable commodity!
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I plan to stick at it, since its putting food in my plate but I need to get better since like yesterday! Its been my life since January, really focusing on it but now trying to get a balance in my life back again.
Do you have any advice or pointers that you'd like to share from your experience please?
Thanks for your time Archer
Here's a list of the feeds I have on the "development" tab of my home page...
MSDN .Net Blog
Android Developers Blog
Visual C# News
Windows Phone Developers Blog
jQuery Blog
Just have a search for blogs that are relevant to your interests and most of them will either work as an RSS feed direct, or will have an RSS or Atom link, both of which are perfect for iGoogle (or other RSS readers).
I do use G+, but not in a professional capacity at all. To be honest though, I don't use any social networks for anything professional. I probably would if I had my own business and needed to market myself, but I don't so it's just not relevant.
As for pointers, the only thing I can really say is that when someone presents you with a challenge, look at it as an opportunity to enhance your knowledge and skill-set. I've seen many programmers respond with "Yeah, you can't do it like that. We'll do it like this instead." That's bull. There's virtually nothing you can't make your computer or website do, with just some imagination and perseverance. And it goes without saying, the more you enjoy it the better you're likely to be at it.
So what field are you going into? You said you've been doing it since January, but I expect you've been doing it a lot longer than that. Is this your first time developing as a career?
Thanks for those links, thought i'd share some that i've found, might be use to somebody:
http://www.codecademy.com/
http://railsforzombies.org/
http://teamtreehouse.com/
http://www.netmagazine.com/
http://sass-lang.com/
http://haml.info/
http://www.smashingmagazine.com/
http://net.tutsplus.com/
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Just have a search for blogs that are relevant to your interests and most of them will either work as an RSS feed direct, or will have an RSS or Atom link, both of which are perfect for iGoogle (or other RSS readers).
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Do you know what news just made it out Yesterday!! LOL
iGoogle will be removed ! in about 14 months I think...how bad is that, just when I was about to sign up and set myself up ahhhh :silly:
I use to use it but not for productive reasons.
Will need to hook myself up in some other way now.
mojo22 said:
Thanks for those links, thought i'd share some that i've found, might be use to somebody:
http://www.codecademy.com/
http://railsforzombies.org/
http://teamtreehouse.com/
http://www.netmagazine.com/
http://sass-lang.com/
http://haml.info/
http://www.smashingmagazine.com/
http://net.tutsplus.com/
Do you know what news just made it out Yesterday!! LOL
iGoogle will be removed ! in about 14 months I think...how bad is that, just when I was about to sign up and set myself up ahhhh :silly:
I use to use it but not for productive reasons.
Will need to hook myself up in some other way now.
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I know - I saw it this morning when I opened my browser and immediately thought about this thread lol.
I'm gutted as it's the perfect home page for my needs. All their advice about getting weather widgets and looking on the Play Store for replacements has got nothing to do with having an RSS reader home page.
Thanks for the extra links - I'll have a look through them.
Hello all I am new to this forum but not computers in general. I would like to install CM9 on my touch pad and I need a lil(lot) of help..lol.. I have never flashed on os before I have just done clean installs on desktops and such and I also have never done a dual boot before. So I guess I basically need a step by step guide to installing CM 9 on my tp..
Welcome. As a member of this forum, you are expected to search and read for yourself; no one will search for you or hold your hand. A very good step by step link is easily found in the dev section: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2147284.
:good: thanks. Next problem I am having is I can not get the goo website to open so I can download acmeinstaller...
Isn't there a mirror?
I think I figured it out. thanks again for the help. Also I found this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2158341
Is this a good tool kit to install android on the tp?
Sorry, never used it.
bananagranola said:
Welcome. As a member of this forum, you are expected to search and read for yourself; no one will search for you or hold your hand. A very good step by step link is easily found in the dev section: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2147284.
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Reasonable search is expected...but your statement is not completely true. MANY people including myself help noobs all the time.Not everyone is a seasoned searcher in fact i help DEVS who are awesome in development but suck (lol) at using even google properly and it can be tough to find what u want. This is a help and information site ...some wont or dont have time to help what they deem a common sense /noob question. Were all here to help each other and a good starting point is to always remember we were all noobs once have a great day
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Helping noobs is not the same as doing their work for them. I help. I point them towards guides that have already been written for their benefit. I step in when they run into problems. But. I don't hold their hands. I don't retype what has already been asked and answered many times. To do so would be to promote filling up these xda developers forums with junk, and keep treating them as noobs. Hopefully if properly guided they will then go from noobs to seasoned searchers and helpers of the next group noobs.
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Helping noobs is not the same as doing their work for them. I help. I point them towards guides that have already been written for their benefit. I step in when they run into problems. But. I don't hold their hands. I don't retype what has already been asked and answered many times. To do so would be to promote filling up these xda developers forums with junk, and keep treating them as noobs. Hopefully if properly guided they will then go from noobs to seasoned searchers and helpers of the next group noobs.
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U didnt say any of that.you represented ME and others in your uncouth borderline Rude(just plain unfriendly to a new person on this wonderfully helpful site) comment. Nice helpful people is what makes this place grand. You could have said it i a couth way and you didnt and at the same tim saying it like you represent everyone here. Simply NOT true.if found that this person was lazy and maybe not inept at searching(everyone is different, some Good people just cant do what you deem common sense) then you can nicely put it to them and say hey bro you need to do a little more searching man but it's cool I'll help u out just remember next time or do u need tips on searching because its an art to be good at it . Or don't answer!!! Really? Is it that hard to be nice.or did u not realize you came off so callous? because everyone's done it ,I've done it but once confronted I apologized and was contrite ...what a man does or thats what i was taught. What u stated is somewhat true but not completely and certainly nowhere near the nice way I would say it not even close. Ive hopefully made my point.and seriously i mean it whan i say i wish you well.im jot being facetious.
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I think there may be a language barrier here, especially concerning your use of the word "uncouth." I wrote curtly, but I did say welcome, I gave OP a quick explanation of XDA rules, and I gave him a link to a guide. And OP didn't seem to mind; he got a quick and helpful answer fast. Personally, I would rather get right to the helpful part instead of being wordy. And think we simply have a difference of opinion in the way we deliver words (I'm very, maybe overly, to-the-point in real life too). But the meat of what we're both saying here is the same: this is first and foremost a developer site, and though help is given here, members are expected to help themselves as well. Oh, and I'm not a man. I'm a woman.
Quite honestly, I don't appreciate being called callous/rude and being told that I must be contrite just because I don't phrase things like you do. Nice to me is being helpful, not using more words. But I do see where you're coming from. We just have a difference in delivery. And now we've spent more time and words talking about this than I did helping him. So I'm done here now.
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I think there may be a language barrier here, especially concerning your use of the word "uncouth." I wrote curtly, but I did say welcome, I gave OP a quick explanation of XDA rules, and I gave him a link to a guide. And OP didn't seem to mind; he got a quick and helpful answer fast. Personally, I would rather get right to the helpful part instead of being wordy. And think we simply have a difference of opinion in the way we deliver words (I'm very, maybe overly, to-the-point in real life too). But the meat of what we're both saying here is the same: this is first and foremost a developer site, and though help is given here, members are expected to help themselves as well. Oh, and I'm not a man. I'm a woman.
Quite honestly, I don't appreciate being called callous/rude and being told that I must be contrite just because I don't phrase things like you do. Nice to me is being helpful, not using more words. But I do see where you're coming from. We just have a difference in delivery. And now we've spent more time and words talking about this than I did helping him. So I'm done here now.
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First,Touche on the man part my bad! Sincere apologies. And saying welcome does not dismis how you came off to me.also i said i could be wrong. It seemed to me that the op was being nice yes and i applauded that in a privet message. I wasnt trying to discredit or be mean while pointing out my OPinion of yes what i thought was an uncouth attitude. Obviously your a strait to the point no mince words women(my awesome wonderful wife is also) and she is in college and i have had to help her with her strait to the point writing because she has been marked down for it. My bad if i came off wrong trying to show how i thought you did. God bless and i hope we both have learned something. And we will agree to disagree what xda is. Have a good night or morning lol
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First,Touche on the man part my bad! Sincere apologies. And saying welcome does not dismis how you came off to me.also i said i could be wrong. It seemed to me that the op was being nice yes and i applauded that in a privet message. I wasnt trying to discredit or be mean while pointing out my OPinion of yes what i thought was an uncouth attitude. Obviously your a strait to the point no mince words women(my awesome wonderful wife is also) and she is in college and i have had to help her with her strait to the point writing because she has been marked down for it. My bad if i came off wrong trying to show how i thought you did. God bless and i hope we both have learned something. And we will agree to disagree what xda is. Have a good night or morning lol
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Well I think I just bricked it. Used the app I linked and asked about fallowed all instructions now my TP is stuck in usb mode... :crying: Nvm , I figured it out...
Well I think I just bricked it. Used the app I linked and asked about fallowed instructions now my TP is stuck in usb mode... :crying: Nvm , I figured it out...
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Well done :good:. Now the fun begins don't forget to make a backup with cwm. AN APP called Rom Toolbox lite will make it easier if you used jcsullins cwm, just tell the app it's a custom cwm
Do ask a question if you get stuck as there are a lot of helpful people on this forum.
All the best.
Well now I have a problem. Got it to start installing but half way through the install it came up with an error saying that cm something or another was missing and that I needed to download it from hptouchpad.linuxhackers.ru. Tried that and there is no such site. Now I am stuck in usb mode with the 2 lil pings at the top of the screen and I can not get out of it...
I would recommend that you ACMEUninstall everything, make sure you've downloaded and moved all the files from your computer to your TP (including CWM), and try to ACMEInstall again.
Thanks will try that..
The guide I linked before has instructions for ACMEUninstaller. Another note: I would strongly advise that you ask questions on the forums instead of by PM. Generally, having multiple pairs of eyes on a question is better than having just one.
Thanks again man your a life saver... :good:
Man I am in love with this tablet now that I have android on it...
Does anyone know how to fix this from happening? I'm running stock odexed rom with faux123 Kernel. It happens with any wifi network. Thanks!
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I am also having this problem on stock. I have installed various Xposed modules, as well as Pry-Fi, but nothing seems to be related to the problem.
Edit: Looking at the reviews for Pry-Fi specific to the Moto X, it seems to have some stability issues with this phone. Turning it off has fixed my issue.
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I'll try contacting the developer.
Edit 2: Looks like I won't be using Pry-Fi anymore. The app is dead in development. Looks like the project was not enough of a success.
Drakonas said:
I am also having this problem on stock. I have installed various Xposed modules, as well as Pry-Fi, but nothing seems to be related to the problem.
Edit: Looking at the reviews for Pry-Fi specific to the Moto X, it seems to have some stability issues with this phone. Turning it off has fixed my issue.
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I'll try contacting the developer.
Edit 2: Looks like I won't be using Pry-Fi anymore. The app is dead in development. Looks like the project was not enough of a success.
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You might try "WiFi Inspect" if you are looking for an alternative to Pry-Fi. It is a root app, but I haven't experienced any issues with it.
Good Luck
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You might try "WiFi Inspect" if you are looking for an alternative to Pry-Fi. It is a root app, but I haven't experienced any issues with it.
Good Luck
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I don't think you understand what Pry-Fi did, because WiFinspect does NOT do what Pry-Fi's main feature was.
From WiFinspect's Play Store page:
...the app is a security audit tool and not a hacking tool.
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Pry-Fi is a hacking tool. That is, it hacks your Android.
From the Pry-Fi Play Store page:
While you are not connected to a Wi-Fi network, the MAC address will constantly be pseudo-randomized, following a pattern that still makes the trackers think you are a real person, but they will not encounter your MAC address again. This will slowly poison their tracking database with useless information.
When you do connect to a Wi-Fi network, unless you specify otherwise, your MAC address will also be randomized - the same MAC address will not be used the next time you connect to this or any other network.
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Try to find another app like that. I dare you.
Drakonas said:
I don't think you understand what Pry-Fi did, because WiFinspect does NOT do what Pry-Fi's main feature was.
From WiFinspect's Play Store page:
This statement would appear to be correct. My reply was a genuine attempt to help you by sharing an network penetration app that has been useful to me.
Pry-Fi is a hacking tool. That is, it hacks your Android.
From the Pry-Fi Play Store page:
I don't think I would consider changing my MAC address to be 'hacking my Android'. But even if you do, there are multiple MAC address changers available on the market. While they wouldn't randomize your MAC as often as Pry-Fi, they are still useful at concealing one's identity temporarily.
Try to find another app like that. I dare you.
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You seem to have gotten -really- excited about this. Looks like similar functionality will be integrated into the next version of iOS:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/06/10/ios_wi_fi_mac_address_trick/
The Pry-Fi app was created by one of our most Senior and respected developers here at XDA. It was just released in 2014, and was only ever released as a "proof-of-concept". To call his app "dead in development" and "not enough of a success" is rather insulting. Probably, like many of us, Chainfire only has 24 hours in his day and with family and work, has limited time to spend on such "proof-of-concept" projects.
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You seem to have gotten -really- excited about this. Looks like similar functionality will be integrated into the next version of iOS:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/06/10/ios_wi_fi_mac_address_trick/
The Pry-Fi app was created by one of our most Senior and respected developers here at XDA. It was just released in 2014, and was only ever released as a "proof-of-concept". To call his app "dead in development" and "not enough of a success" is rather insulting. Probably, like many of us, Chainfire only has 24 hours in his day and with family and work, has limited time to spend on such "proof-of-concept" projects.
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Why do you think I was saying it wasn't a success? I loved the app. It is well made.. But the discussion was closed, and people were saying "it's dead", so I thought that development had stopped. I wasn't mad at you, or anybody for that matter. Sorry. I need to think about how I'm saying things before posting... seems I was misunderstood.
I didn't mean to insult anybody. I also believe Chainfire is a very respected developer. He made SuperSU, for goodness sakes, not to mention many other heavily successful apps.
And yes, maybe "hacking" is saying too much. I was too quick to reply, and I apologize.
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Why do you think I was saying it wasn't a success? I loved the app. It did well.. But the discussion was closed, and people were saying "it's dead", so I thought that development had stopped. I wasn't mad at you, or anybody for that matter. Sorry.
I didn't mean to insult anybody. Man, I need to learn to think about what I say.
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I may have mistook your edit for the dev bashing we see all too often in some of these forums. It seems clear now that wasn't your intention. I apologize for the misunderstanding.
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I may have mistook your edit for the dev bashing we see all too often in some of these forums. It seems clear now that wasn't your intention. I apologize for the misunderstanding.
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Don't worry about it. I know there's a lot of that out there. My brain explodes on threads I see on the internet where the OP author asks for help with a stupid question, the helpers try to tell them that it isn't possible or doesn't work that way, the author responds with insults and stupidity thinking they know everything, and then flaming ensues... It's dumb.
N00bs will be n00bs, I guess.
I do apologize, myself. I was probably a bit harsh with my first reply to you. I thought you were pointing me to WiFinspect to be a replacement for Pry-Fi. (you said "there are many apps like that, so I thought you were talking about Pry-Fi)
I probably should've looked at your username. If I had, I would've known that you knew what you were talking about. I've seen you around. I would recommend not red-fonting in the future, though. That might make some people think you're yelling at them, to be honest. Just some advice.
I, personally, own everything I love. I know freelance developers don't make much off their apps generally, so developers can count on my contribution, as well as bug reports instead of a Play Store review (honestly, does nobody know the developer can't fix the problem if he/she doesn't experience it themselves?).
I'm ranting here, but I'm just saying that I share your views.
But in any case, was I wrong in assuming that Pry-Fi is dead? I would hope it isn't, because it is an awesome app that also didn't eat that much battery while running in the background. I want to file a bug report, if it isn't dead.
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But in any case, was I wrong in assuming that Pry-Fi is dead? I would hope it isn't, because it is an awesome app that also didn't eat that much battery while running in the background. I want to file a bug report, if it isn't dead.
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Thanks for the reply. The most recent comment Chainfire has posted regarding Pry-Fi suggests that it is definitely not dead, but that because of other commitments/projects, it probably won't get worked on this summer, unless other Devs wish to develop it further. Good news is that although Chainfire himself admits it had "virtually no interest" (as you mentioned before), the new iOS feature that mimics some of the functionality has somewhat 'renewed' interest in it. I look forward to seeing updates possibly by this Fall. I've heard Chainfire rant about how much of a headache "SELinux" is causing to root app devs. It would seem your speculations about interest level were spot-on, but thankfully Chainfire suggests that he is not giving up on it.
I agree on the red-fonting. I often use red to highlight important steps in many posts, but in this case I do believe it was inappropriate.
And finally, I should apologize to @Swimboy46163 for somewhat 'hijacking' his thread...
Swimboy46163: Are you still having issues? Let us know if you would like to continue troubleshooting.
If you would like to read Chainfire's recent comments regarding Pry-Fi, see here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53266853&postcount=382
https://plus.google.com/+Chainfire/posts/Y4fjP6cH45v
Hi Im looking for a someone who would be willing to help out programming a module I've been working on for some while off and on. Between work, family and everything in between my progress has been a bit slow and I think that someone(or some people) that is interested could be a huge benefit. As of right not the source is not public as that it needs to be cleaned up and some parts rewritten but the application runs and works properly. The module aides in reversing and debugging android applications. My end goal is to try to provide a kinda swiss army knife for reversers. Currently the module is programmed in Android Studio. If you are interested and want to help please PM me. If you have questions you can reply to the thread.
*Moderators* The reason that this is not posted to DevDB is that its just a concept at this point and unfinished. If you feel this should be moved please feel free to move the topic.
Interesting start. Good idea.
Can you share some more info, please? Can you paste basic source on pastebin just to see what is it.
I have some experience with APK hacking (apktool, via Xposed) so maybe I can somehow help. I am also developer of some Xposed modules.
pyler said:
Interesting start. Good idea.
Can you share some more info, please? Can you paste basic source on pastebin just to see what is it.
I have some experience with APK hacking (apktool, via Xposed) so maybe I can somehow help. I am also developer of some Xposed modules.
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I will send you a pm in a few hrs. At work atm.
Hello!
May its sounds strange, but any idea where to start learn these things? I reading XDA, which is great, but there is any documentation or other website, which can help in this case?
Worked already with linux, yesterday compiled my first kernel. But interested in adding new mods and other sweets to my kernel.
Please dont say those noobies answers "If you dont know these, you shouldn't probably go into it.."
Everybody started somewhere, i just need to learn, thats all. But cant find noone, who can give me the basics.
Thanks for suggestions, etc.
Sincerely, Marcell
sqpp said:
Hello!
May its sounds strange, but any idea where to start learn these things? I reading XDA, which is great, but there is any documentation or other website, which can help in this case?
Worked already with linux, yesterday compiled my first kernel. But interested in adding new mods and other sweets to my kernel.
Please dont say those noobies answers "If you dont know these, you shouldn't probably go into it.."
Everybody started somewhere, i just need to learn, thats all. But cant find noone, who can give me the basics.
Thanks for suggestions, etc.
Sincerely, Marcell
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I +1 this :good:
sqpp said:
Hello!
May its sounds strange, but any idea where to start learn these things? I reading XDA, which is great, but there is any documentation or other website, which can help in this case?
Worked already with linux, yesterday compiled my first kernel. But interested in adding new mods and other sweets to my kernel.
Please dont say those noobies answers "If you dont know these, you shouldn't probably go into it.."
Everybody started somewhere, i just need to learn, thats all. But cant find noone, who can give me the basics.
Thanks for suggestions, etc.
Sincerely, Marcell
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im not sure of the guides that helped me at the moment, but i personally googled it and found stuff. then i looked at other devs githubs, and started my own, then started cherry-picking and attempted numerous times to build the kernel. but id just google for guides on how to build android kernel for whatever phone you have (I'm going to guess it's the nexus 6). that should be a good starting point for you. sorry i couldn't exactly help more.
All kinds of guides and informative threads on developing here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/chef-central/android
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Darth said:
All kinds of guides and informative threads on developing here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/chef-central/android
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Huge thanks! SuperR's kitchen is amazing.
Darth said:
All kinds of guides and informative threads on developing here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/chef-central/android
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Thats nice, but i talking about kernel. not ROM.
sqpp said:
Thats nice, but i talking about kernel. not ROM.
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Chef central covers all kinds of development. Just need to invest the time to research and learn. There's no easy or quick answers that are going to help.
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Chef central covers all kinds of development. Just need to invest the time to research and learn. There's no easy or quick answers that are going to help.
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I understand, however it's still not helps.. I understand need to improve my skills a lot, but how an already written application helps me, which do every tasks for me.
I want to learn building by myself.
sqpp said:
I understand, however it's still not helps.. I understand need to improve my skills a lot, but how an already written application helps me, which do every tasks for me.
I want to learn building by myself.
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Well, you can start with the basics, or jump right into it compiling from scratch. Though many of those tools are designed to help compile and build. You should be reading about each one. But what I'm trying to get across, is that there are multiple guides and tutorials for doing this, many of which are in the Chef Central Android section. Did you read through anything in the section I linked?
Or you can search XDA on "kernel building". Or search google on "kernel building" and add on "XDA" in your search for more XDA results.
Otherwise, I'm not sure the point of this thread? No one is going to walk you through it from beginning to end here in this thread, when there are multiple, and very long guides already out there that took people hours to create.
If you are going to get into this, you'll be researching and reading for many hours before you start a thing. And you'll need patience and have to be ready to do lots and lots of homework. :good:
Good luck and let us know how it goes.
I already built kernel some days ago, even yesterday. I would interested about customization, adding more features, but still there is nothing about it. Because what you linked is for building ROMs and NOT kernels. You know they are totally different. Even tried to search in Google, only found about adding grovenors, but nothing else.
sqpp said:
I already built kernel some days ago, even yesterday. I would interested about customization, adding more features, but still there is nothing about it. Because what you linked is for building ROMs and NOT kernels. You know they are totally different. Even tried to search in Google, only found about adding grovenors, but nothing else.
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Sir, there are kernel guides in Chef Central. (and some are withing the complete rom guides. Or at least have links to kernel resources) But, if they don't suit your needs, again, I would search XDA on "kernel building". There are many guides throughout the site that I find when I do that.
Pick one that you like and that is active with questions and answers in them, and perhaps try asking in one of those. That's where you'll find the experts.
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Edit: Hopefully this link will work, http://forum.xda-developers.com/sitesearch.php?q=Kernel building
That will lead you to lots of information.