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Hi there, xda people!
I need some help with my decision. I'm looking for a smartphone with a big screen, Wi-Fi, 3G, good camera and a nice design. both of them are ok for my needs and the price doesn't matter. So wonder if you guys, the experts can tell me what the benefits of WP7 are and those of Android. And also: Xperia X10 in Black or in White
What also matters is the compatibility with a Mac and if the device is upgradeable easily and without hacking it.
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well i have an hd7. fine ill explain the lag of wp7:
1.no Bluetooth data transfer.
2.Zune integration.(every thing u need to sync to yo phone through that only)
3.no flash(of course we can get it by the next coming MANGO update)
4.very few apps on wp7 marketplace (& costs more).
5.u cant download anything except from marketplace.
6.no support for 3rd party applications,cant change ringtones,no themes( u wanna jailbreak it if so)
7.very poor battery life
best things:
very smooth OS,best touch experience ever.
& the display even
(so for myself hd7 is bad so im in hope of android for it )
as x10 is based on Donut.. better u buy Desire HD (froyo) or Xperia Play(gingerbird) as you are saying no problem about money.
for xperia play check this:
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_play-3608.php
for DHD:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire_hd-3468.php
check these and then think of buying..
well good luck
I have owned the X10 before the HD7... and i hated it... first of all it doesnt have true multitouch, it only has dual touch... so only a few system apps pinch to zoom and so on.
Also the X10 now has android 2.1 not 1.6 like mentioned in the post earlier and is about to get 2.3.3 sometime in the next couple of months.
If i had my choice, i would go for the HD7 because of the bigger screen and the OS. I think android is one of the ugliest OS's ever to grace this planet. Everything from scrolling to basic functions sometime take forever (on the X10 anyway). But in the end it is Android and you can customize it to the way you want it.
After having bothi I'm happier with the HD7, you spend hours on Android trying to get it 'just right' (which it never is) but I find that WP7 suits me just fine and I really love the style and mechanics of the OS.
I had the x10 and it wasn't great, it is getting (got, not sure?) Gingerbread now but if your set on Android get the SE Arc or even the Desire HD, the Arc looks and feels better, software is still buggy. The Desire HD has more built in HTC apps, this can be good or bad depending on how you look at it!
Android always felt a but 'childish' to me, I don't know why, WP7 whilel locked down just feels more intuitive.
I'm sure I'll get murdered for saying this but is Mac compatibility is important why just not go for an... iphone...
the X10 is one of the worst Android handsets out there. Sony Erricson have their paws all over it meaning future updates are as and when SE feel like it, as it's SE's version of Android. There was a long period where SE basically said they were never updating it again after 2.1.
I'd recommend the Galaxy S 2 or the HTC Sensation, much, much better devices and not locked down to poor OS's that SE have ruined.
As for which OS i prefer, WP7 all the way. Much smoother and generally much quicker at getting things done.
I'll disagree with the first poster's poor battery life, I can get 2 days worth out of a full charge (but reconditioning the battery, i.e. draining it fully and recharging it is a must).
Also many points he mentioned are across the board for Android and Iphones as well, so not really a great comparison.
My girlfriend owns a X10 device, And Sony Ericsson are one of the worst for their customer support and updates going. (Motorola IMO being the worst, Ex-Milestone User Here)
HTC's Customer support is stunning, You can tell this from them locking their bootloaders on the Evo 3d. Thunderbolt. Sensation and Incredible S. HTC's customers replied in an outroar, and within 2 months they have decided to re-unlock their bootloaders, which proves they love their customers. And not one HTC phone from now on will be locked.
The X10's Are an ok phone, but its let down by the laggy Timescape UI added onto android, I believe in 1 Android Skin, Sense (The best of the skins) or A completely stock build of android. Touchwiz from samsung is ok, but its not quite there.
The locked bootloader is a let down too (Sure theres the kexec method) but its not completely open, so if you fancied a custom build rom, it would be suspectable to reboots etc if you used one. The HD7 has a unlocked bootloader, so when we get an android port, it will be fully custom and will have no reboots
Both have the same processor, but WP7 really takes advantage of the speed, I've used a HTC Desire with this processor on sense Android 2.2 and a HD7, and personally the speed is majorly different on each phone.
But i'm not biased to WP7, i've owned many android phones and I love the OS. Just Sony ericsson android phones are riddled with bugs and not one works just right. But I can't wait to replace my girlfriend's X10, She will be getting a 2nd gen windows phone, Because whatever people say, WP7 has been the nicest suprise of the year for me
I pre-ordered an HTC Sensation some days ago.
The HD7 will be put back into his box until WP7 becomes a more interesting experience.
I also would not step back to an old Android device like X10.
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S
well Actually am About to get a new phone after 1.5 years using wildfire s my next step will last with me till i graduate maybe like 2 years or 3
so i wanna make sure i get the right phone So which phone do you suggest S3-one-x-Xperia tx -xperia sl?
feel free to talk please and conisder that Xperia Tx will be avilabe in early 2013 maybe new htc or samsung will be there who knows..
hope you try to help me please give a reason for your answer thanks <3
Who is your provider? I'm either getting the optimus g or xperia tl depending on dev support and battery life for the two.
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Depends on what you desire in a phone. LTE, Durability, Design, Support, Custom rom support, Screen resolution/PPI, Battery life etc. etc.
I come from a history of HTC phone and I always liked them because they feel more durable. Also, the dev support is very high on HTC and Samsung. When you go for power, you should definitely look at Samsung S3, HTC One X(+) or the new LG Optimus G. Also, if you're interested in getting the latest Android updates, you should keep an eye on the Google (LG) Nexus 4.
I must say that I took a risk in choosing for Sony. The dev support is relatively low and I didn't like their Q1 2012 models Xperia S, U and P. This because I heard negative stories about the battery life, the outdated hardware, the lack of proper support etc. Yet, I must say that I never had a smartphone that operates this smooth, and the battery life is better than HTC's Q4 2011 phones. I own my phone for a couple of days now and I like it more and more.
When I was in Indonesia this summer, the Acro S caught my eye and I have been looking out for the release of the European brother of that phone: the Sony Xperia V. The specs are promising, I like Sony Timescape (more than for example HTC Sense or Samsung Touchwiz) and it promises to be a solid phone (it should be dust and water resistant).
To summarize it all. Keep a lookout on comparization websites, such as phonearena. You can easily compare up to three phones there.
If you really don't know what to pick, I can only recommend to stick with the Nexus releases. You are interested in Android for some reason
Check out my phone list in signature, I can't wait to get myself this xperia t
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Dev support for samsung (at least on the aosp/cm front) will drop, samsungs ****ing around with sources, broken code and producing a mess in general is driving devs away. HTC is obviously locking bootloaders in its more recent models and is enforcing less dev-friendly techniques, so dev support will remain strong but it wont beas much fun to "work" with as htc used to be. LG produces **** hardware, I heard. And their custom android implementation isnt that shiny either, I heard (lol, I hear a lot, obviously ). Leaves Sony, which is overall well, behaving goog from a dev perspective and the hardware is ok, good even, albeit not highest top tier. In terms of updates theres rom for improvement. So as the ultimate last, a Nexus device. Latest android, always. Excellent dev support. But limited storage and no expansion possibilities. Make your choice.
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As long as your not getting the tl. Att hates its customers right now.
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If you want a more neutral ICS experience with some great Sony add ons (Walkman, etc.) and like the idea of 13MP photos go for the Xperia T.
If you want top spec and more grunt the S3 is a bit more powerful but you get TouchWiz and Samsung's stamp on it all. Also, the S3 has a much richer selection of custom ROMs.
Personally, lack of SD slot would put me off the OneX before I even opened the box.
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LG produces **** hardware, I heard.
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I agreed with almost everything you said but this. I am no expert, but I think the major problem isn't hardware... it's their support / drivers/ software. I owned a G2x, and hardware wise it was a treat. However, it was hampered by the lack of source (which has been rectified in the last week or so I believe) code and the NVIDIA drivers for it. Their latest incarnation, the G, is very nice on paper, but alas, it will likely suffer the same fate, which is why the Nexus 4 looks so tempting. Hell, Google trusts their hardware, they just wanted to make a phone everyone would want AND possibly afford. Unlocked no less!
I have sent my T back for repairs, I had some audio stuff go south. That said, I really like that Sony offers the option to unlock bootloaders. I like the feel of the phone and the speed. HTC burned a bridge with me and my Amaze (also just released source code for their WIFI / BT drivers IIRC), so I went Sony, and am not sorry that I did.
EDIT: Oh yea, and the Sony take on ICS is really quite nice. Not bloated, most of the apps I actually WANT to use, and it's well designed IMHO.
Thx everyone =)
i`ave ordered XPeria Tx =) thats it after i read all your reviews i`m getting sony <3 i dont care much for android updates unless its jellybean =D but its ok
Tinup93 said:
i`ave ordered XPeria Tx =) thats it after i read all your reviews i`m getting sony <3 i dont care much for android updates unless its jellybean =D but its ok
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No regrets, You have done a good choice, I have TX too, I'm happy with: elegant design, removable battery (very important), SD card slot, good benchmarks, even better compared with phones with quad core processor, a very good 13 Mp camera, easy to unlock, Sony developpers friendly.
Bad: few custom roms, slow process updating, Hope more from developpers.
Previous phones: a lot of Nokia flagships (finished with), and in the last 2 years:Xperia X10, Xperia S and now a beautiful Xperia TX, all unlocked and rooted.
Now got the t, little disappointed with the development level for the phone but the phone it self is ok, not great but ok I guess
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hi guys..i m using samsung galaxy s 2...i switched from sony xperia S because of its 144gm weight and un easy grip due to its sharp angular edges..galaxy s 2 is very light weight and easy to use and handle but i dont like sansung at all.i am a huge fan of sony handsets..i m a little confused to buy xperia T.i love its design but i m worried about its weight..tell me about ur experience?kindly guide me..i dnt want to purchase xperia tx coz i like compact design of xperia T..xperia V is too fat.i dnt like fat phones..sony is an electronic giant but they are nt giving their best.a sony user is confused which phone to buy.one is light weight but fat(xperia V)..one is thinner but cheap material built and too big to use with one hand(xperia TX)..and then flagship phone which is best in all sense but heavier than all the flagship (even quad core) phones..i'e samsung galaxy s 3 (133gm) htc one x (130gm) iphone 5 (113gm) .... guide me guys...i love this phone but its tooooooo heavy...and also tell me xperia T pros and cons...thanx alot in advance
i switched from i9000 (119g), and had feeling you described for around one week, then phone magically started to feel light and handy Well, when i take i9000 i can tell difference right away, but in general it is a matter of getting used to it Its better shaped than xperia s, feels better in hand.
T is very fast, very responsive. Screen is different, i mean, i had been using i9000(super amoled) for past two years, but now i think T's colors are more natural and black is decent. After some time i noticed that side buttons position is very good, when you take phone to unlock, automaticly you get middle finger on power button. Battery better than i9000 srsly, i expected less! Sound quality is great with attached headphones(im not audio freak tho), which are very very comfty (again big surprise). I enjoy browsing without need to zoom in All games i've tried so far working great. OnScreenButtons works much better than expected, i did press them accidently few times while gaming, but it doesnt happen anymore.
In general, i had a choice of this and sgs3, which im aware is better - simply the best performer out there, and i picked T without regrets
Xperia t pros.. everything. I really really like my Sony and I came from HTC one x.
Camera is epic and even original fw was slick.
Cons .. not a very busy forum here at least not yet. That is actually my only gripe with the phone.
Weight? Are you serious? It barely weighs anything but I remember the 1st round of mobiles that altered the way you walked if you had a belt clip
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Please do not cross post in multiple sections, post threads only once and in the correct sections. As this thread was posted first I moved it here to Q&A and deleted your other thread, moving a reply you had from there to here.
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Please do not cross post in multiple sections, post threads only once and in the correct sections. As this thread was posted first I moved it here to Q&A and deleted your other thread, moving a reply you had from there to here.
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Ohhh..i apologize AvRs dear...
Dear y2grae and mesior....i v ordered SONY XPERIA T....will come in a week or so...now anxiously waiting......
what about TX???? is TX better than T....i m doing survay about this confusion which to buy..almost 80% users have purchased TX coz of its slimness and light weight....suggest me guys..i live in pakistan and both T and TX will b available in next week here
Haha post earlier you said you ordered sxt ;D
I've had a galaxy s3, htc one x and now the Xperia T.
I can defo say the Sony has the best 'build quality' and the weight feels spot on.
The difference between handsets is SO minimal people, we're talking grams here not kilograms!
The Xperia T fits really nice in the hand and it's not too big either
If you find the Xperia T to heavy then I would suggest taking up actual physical exercise for a new hobby cause you might be to weak to live sorry .
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hi I currently own Samsung Omnia w with windows phone 7.8 , its a great phone love wp , a huge fan
but there are no new apps or games for wp7 so I need to upgrade
what do you guys suggest to stick with windows phone 8 or go android
my options
Nokia lumia 920
Samsung galaxy s4
sony xperia ZR
which one will you guys suggest???
the only reason android is an option for coz it has lots of free and good 3d games with good graphics
wp8 lacks the free thing
and no piracy is not my thing....I will buy the game rather steal it
also with android I have a possibility of tweaking phone which I like to do in free time
other then this I love wp
so plz suggest
Hi there, If I were you, I wouldn't hesitate for a second: go for the Samsung Galaxy S4! I had a HTC Mozart and then a Windows Phone 8X, which I swapped for my old HTC One S and I couldn't be happier. I don't think I'm looking back any time soon!
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Hi there, If I were you, I wouldn't hesitate for a second: go for the Samsung Galaxy S4! I had a HTC Mozart and then a Windows Phone 8X, which I swapped for my old HTC One S and I couldn't be happier. I don't think I'm looking back any time soon!
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don't you miss the smoothness of WP???
as far as I have heard (not used) that android freezes a lot???
will you plz take a look on ZR as well and tell me which one to go
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goldsmit409 said:
don't you miss the smoothness of WP???
as far as I have heard (not used) that android freezes a lot???
will you plz take a look on ZR as well and tell me which one to go
Thanks
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Actually, I've used both Android and Windows Phone a lot, and I can tell you that Android is as smooth as WP. Obviously, if you use a crappy Android phone, it's not going to be smooth, but I guess the same applies to WP. As for the Xperia ZR, it looks like a great phone, but I've never been a fan of Sony phones; it's just a matter of personal preference. But I can assure you that either of the phones you are considering is going to be as smooth as any Lumia 925, Samsung ATIV or HTC 8X.
"The same" doesn't actually apply to WP - the minimum requirements for WP7 and WP8 devices are high enough to ensure good performance of the OS (Android has no such restrictions).
Android will get worse battery life and (especially depending on where you get your apps from, and no, XDA isn't even always safe) a higher risk of malware, but you do also get a larger number of apps and a more tweakable system. Also, the S4 has better specs than any current WP8 device (my phone, the Samsung ATIV S, has hardware equivalent to that of the S3).
My boss has the Sony phone, and has had nothing but trouble with it. The features they advertise are there, and work well, but the USB port failed quickly (makes charging and synching tricky), the external speakers (including speakerphone) are very soft, and it has had various other problems. Definitely not recommended, unless the consideration of "high-end waterproof phone" overrules everything else.
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MuF123 said:
Hello,
I am happy user of SGS2 and I now I'm deciding between S4 and Z1. I know that Galaxy family has tons of ROMs updated regulary and how rooting/flashing works and I am kinda afraid to leave that nice ecosystem and so I have few questions.
1.: Does xperia family share developers? E.g. one ROM gets compiled to few devices by same cook? Are there plenty of neat roms to choose?
2.: Is it possible to hardbrick xperia device (by flashing wrong boot)?
3.: Are there any recurring problems with xperia family that only long time user knows?
4.: Is there someone else who switched from Galaxy S2/3/4 to Z1 - if so, why?
5.: By any chance - does Z1 support headphone remote control for iphones?
Thanks!
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First of all, welcome to the xperia family.
1. For now, there's not much in the development. Because the Z1 its just been released this september. We still need time, let the developers do their magic. Its just about time. If u want to see for example, go to xperia arc development. You will see many ROMs available.
2. Yup. Its possible. Every device has the possibility to be hardbricked. But dont worry, as long as u follow the instruction, u wont encounter any hard brick. Ive used xperia arc, xperia s, and xperia z1, and never encounter hardbrick.
3. The only problem that i know from the xperia family is that we are late on android updates.
4. I dont know
5. I think its gonna work, never tried it tho ..
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MuF123 said:
Hello,
I am happy user of SGS2 and I now I'm deciding between S4 and Z1. I know that Galaxy family has tons of ROMs updated regulary and how rooting/flashing works and I am kinda afraid to leave that nice ecosystem and so I have few questions.
1.: Does xperia family share developers? E.g. one ROM gets compiled to few devices by same cook? Are there plenty of neat roms to choose?
2.: Is it possible to hardbrick xperia device (by flashing wrong boot)?
3.: Are there any recurring problems with xperia family that only long time user knows?
4.: Is there someone else who switched from Galaxy S2/3/4 to Z1 - if so, why?
5.: By any chance - does Z1 support headphone remote control for iphones?
Thanks!
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I can answer your question about coming from an S3 to the Z1! I've found the Z1 much much better than the S3! No Touchwiz lag and bloat! Sure I miss some of the gesture stuff but I'll trade the lag free and minimalist changes to the android interface by Sony anytime. Also my battery lasts much longer than it ever did with the S3 and overall I'm quite happy! You might however find the display pannel to be inferior to Samsung's AMOLED screens. To be honest, viewing angles are not as good but still ok IMO... There are people complaining about yellow tint issue with Z1 and I became obssessed with that however after a few days of use, your eyes do get used to it and even in the tests, the whites look white... its a display calibration issue which Sony can easily fix in a firmware update..Also the Xperia Z had a tool to adjust white balance which is missing from the Z1 and should be brought in or will be ported.. Overall, I'll give a 8/10.. There are a few bugs but with the last update, quite a few were fixed.. Sony will keep this up so I expect it to be perfect in 1-3 months!
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MuF123 said:
I had totally lite rom in my S2 since day 1 so I don't mind touchwiz, you can get rid of it pretty easily...
I still struggle with the idea of:
-having larger phone than S4, and yet
-having smaller screen than S4 (because of those stupid software buttons)
Also I'm kinda afraid of the glass... I've had some rough landings with my S2 - 1.5m landing on display on pavement, then scratching another meter on it and - one minor dent on the plastic bezel. No cracked front glass, no cracked back glass (plastic cover sometimes wins )
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If you are struggling with these issues, I think Z1 is not a good option for you... I suggest you try the LG G2... bigger screen (5.2") than S4 with roughly the same size, not glass (also plastic as S4). UI is very close to S4... G2 has software buttons but that's because the bezels are so small, it can not fit a physical button... it has the same chip (S800) as Z1 and note 3... and is 100 dollars cheaper...