DPI Settings - Galaxy Tab S General

Bought a Galaxy Tab S 8.4 LTE 2 days ago. Beautiful device with great screen, but:
First thing you realize is the small font size in several apps, such as Facebook. Barely readable.
Tried to use larger font size in settings. That did some effect on some fonts, but no consistent result.
Same with the Big Font app - font sizes and overall appearance becomes inconsistent.
So the only way seemed to change DPI Settings. Which required rooting.
I did the CF autoroot thing. And fiddled with DPI settings using Texdroider app. Originally was 220 DPI. I tried 420 DPI.
Unfortunately after reboot, I was stuck at "systemui angehalten" error message, and touch screen did not respond to input.
Unfortunately I could not switch off the device (to reboot), pressing power button for ever gave no effect.
Since you cannot remove the battery on this device I had to let it run down completely over night. Then booting into Recovery (or Download Mode) was possible again.
Tried a full wipe in Recovery an rebooted. But endless systemui crash loop remained.
Will try to re-flash via Odin to get it back working.
So this thread is firstly a warning if anybody wants to change DPI settings on the Tab S.
Then some questions:
* Did anybody overcome the small fonts problem by changing DPI and which DPI setting is advisable?
* any way to force reboot in such case?

Just use xposed module appsetting to set the dpi for apps individually.
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edan1979 said:
Just use xposed module appsetting to set the dpi for apps individually.
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AppSettings works well.. I changed the overall DPI to 240 because all the fonts were way too big for me.. I then reset certain apps back because some of the stock apps don't work right at different DPIs (camera, etc).

Reflashing revovered the systemui loop crash.
Tried App Settings, but no succes so far.
What do you guys set up, e.g. for facebook messenger?
Thanks!

Appsettings works great!
pibach said:
Reflashing revovered the systemui loop crash.
Tried App Settings, but no succes so far.
What do you guys set up, e.g. for facebook messenger?
Thanks!
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I have rooted my galaxy for using exposed framework just to be able to use app settings! It then works great. You can set the font size (or dpi I guess) individually for any app. I use different settings ie for Gmail, Facebook messenger, Chrome, Tapatalk... You have to try a bit to find the perfect setting but it's a must.
Without you have tiny fonts!

ok, I installed xposed framework via its installer and then added the app settings module. For those willing to follow this route: you find instructions here: http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...tom-stock-roms-and-hello-to-xposed-framework/
Then it is possible to set DPI (or change font size) for each app individually. Text size and rendering was fine for me with 400DPI for Facebook, Tapatalk, or Nova Launcher. Tried with some other apps as well. Seemingly all look better and are more touch friendly with DPI >= 400. For comparison: stock DPI is set to 320 while real DPI is some 500+.
However it is rather inconvenient to set up each and every app individually via app settings module.
Tried to change the global DPI settings with build prob editor, but that somehow did not succeed, 320 DPI remained unchanged.
Tried with DPI changer to no effect. DPI cannot be changed via these apps. Very strange, have to investigate further.
Then tried again with textdroider, just to check - and device hangs again
No chance of rebooting or anything...but...yeah, found a trick: insert a SIM-card into the slot and then get asked to restart! Works. You can boot into recovery or download mode. Will try with adb to restore the build.prop backup...
Meanwhile - has anyone been able to set global DPI to something like 400-500 successfully? How?

If you look carefully I n the build.prop there usiually got 2 same dpi line... change both or disable one of it.
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Appsettings module is the best option,going in to build.prop is for overall and sends you in to a boot loop .be sure to have a backup
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@edan1979, I found only one line in build.prop indicating DPI settings. build.prop editor and DPI changer strangely cannot change that.
I did another test, changing DPI by editing build.prop with Root Explorer. It does change - and goes into UI crash loop
@jball, any idea, why it crashes?

pibach said:
@edan1979, I found only one line in build.prop indicating DPI settings. build.prop editor and DPI changer strangely cannot change that.
I did another test, changing DPI by editing build.prop with Root Explorer. It does change - and goes into UI crash loop
@jball, any idea, why it crashes?
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Unfortunately I don't, I just know what happened the first time I did it.
Appsettings is the best option though
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pibach said:
@edan1979, I found only one line in build.prop indicating DPI settings. build.prop editor and DPI changer strangely cannot change that.
I did another test, changing DPI by editing build.prop with Root Explorer. It does change - and goes into UI crash loop
@jball, any idea, why it crashes?
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the UI will crash since it was build for the original dpi and the ui setting as well... just install another launcher first and clear the Touchwiz data. It wont crash any longer but if you use touchwiz it wont be good looking... and some other touchwiz related apps will crash as well... that one can be settle using app setting to original dpi.

pibach said:
@edan1979, I found only one line in build.prop indicating DPI settings. build.prop editor and DPI changer strangely cannot change that.
I did another test, changing DPI by editing build.prop with Root Explorer. It does change - and goes into UI crash loop
@jball, any idea, why it crashes?
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Samsung is too lazy to support multidpi for their apps that's made for specific DPI values.

I did not use Touchwiz. It is SystemUI that crashes...

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I did not use Touchwiz. It is SystemUI that crashes...
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Unless you are running CM, everything is part of Touchwiz, including SystemUI.

kenkiller said:
Unless you are running CM, everything is part of Touchwiz, including SystemUI.
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Is it?
CM?
The DPI problem and crashes do occur as well on non Samsung devices. Don't they?

pibach said:
Is it?
CM?
The DPI problem and crashes do occur as well on non Samsung devices. Don't they?
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Not really. I change DPI systemwide on my Nexus devices, they don't crash so easily - they are pretty much unified in terms of software.
Samsung really doesn't like to make a one size fits all firmware for the dozens of devices they release, so you get "problems" like this - to be fair, they don't really anticipate the average user to go around fooling with the DPI values.

Probably Samsung has set 320 DPI on all their devices?

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Probably Samsung has set 320 DPI on all their devices?
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Who knows...who cares? Their assets probably isn't made for all the existing DPIs.
Anyway, xposed app settings works fine for most apps, just gotta live with the systemUI being stuck in that.

If systemUI belongs to TouchWiz, couldn't it be replaced? How?

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If systemUI belongs to TouchWiz, couldn't it be replaced? How?
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Sure....Flash Cyanogenmod for it, if it exists and you don't mind losing all of Samsung's features.

Related

[Q] Lowering DPI?

What are you doing exactly when you lower it, and what do you get from it?
I saw a few threads about it but they're all procedures and instructions.
It just makes things on the screen smaller. You can therefore fit more stuff on the screen, if you are using a launcher that allows adjustable row/column settings.
Beware however that TouchWiz looks pretty nasty on non stock settings. Also the dialler and other bits and pieces won't display correctly. You can however adjust it back again.
It is most useful to me where it can display much more in the same screen area. Some apps are not multidpi friendly and do not show correctly, eg the dailer and some games.
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It just makes things on the screen smaller. You can therefore fit more stuff on the screen, if you are using a launcher that allows adjustable row/column settings.
Beware however that TouchWiz looks pretty nasty on non stock settings. Also the dialler and other bits and pieces won't display correctly. You can however adjust it back again.
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When you say "it just makes things on the screen smaller," is it the icons or other stuff onscreen getting smaller or the screen getting bigger? I'm using GoLauncher EX and I was wondering about that setting on custom rows/columns that goes up to 10. I was wondering how would that fit.
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It is most useful to me where it can display much more in the same screen area. Some apps are not multidpi friendly and do not show correctly, eg the dailer and some games.
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So also I guess that's why a lot of the "lower DPI"-related threads are about looking for compatible apps. Thanks!
Do many people tweak their DPI? Can you share examples of significant advantages of doing so that's worth the hassle of looking for apps/themes that would work on the adjusted DPI? Thanks again!
nobnut said:
It just makes things on the screen smaller. You can therefore fit more stuff on the screen, if you are using a launcher that allows adjustable row/column settings.
Beware however that TouchWiz looks pretty nasty on non stock settings. Also the dialler and other bits and pieces won't display correctly. You can however adjust it back again.
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You're everywhere, nobnut! (Sorry for the off-topic)
Anyway, I hope soon everything will be smooth when changing dpi (maybe CM port or ICS). It's really useful for us with good sighting, I've been using my HD2 at 160 dpi instead of 240 and it's not only neater on the homescreen but very useful in some apps (and a less toyish aspect )
I suddenly want to switch to 240 DPI but the effort scares me.
Found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1369162&page=2
I don't like how it doesn't work for some apps as of now, though I never heard of Samsung ever accommodating DPI changes? That's why I didn't learn of this from somewhere else before the forums. :O
rerp said:
I suddenly want to switch to 240 DPI but the effort scares me.
Found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1369162&page=2
I don't like how it doesn't work for some apps as of now, though I never heard of Samsung ever accommodating DPI changes? That's why I didn't learn of this from somewhere else before the forums. :O
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Just try this app: https://market.android.com/details?...wxLDIxMiwiY29tLmlubm9kcm9pZC5kcGljaGFuZ2VyIl0.
It's easy as hell, you can try and then undo effortlessly. But I'm sticking to 320 until... until I try again 240
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When you say "it just makes things on the screen smaller," is it the icons or other stuff onscreen getting smaller or the screen getting bigger? I'm using GoLauncher EX and I was wondering about that setting on custom rows/columns that goes up to 10. I was wondering how would that fit.
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Everything is smaller. Everything.
Yes, Go Launcher looks good at a lower dpi once you have set the rows and columns. Shortcuts, texts, widgets etc will all display as smaller.
For example O at 320 might look like o at 240.
To edit, there are apps to use (if you are noob ). The best way is to open the build.prop file in the 'system' folder, find the line ro.sf.lcd_density=320 and change the 320 to your value... then reboot.
Just remember the default value is 320 if you want to return again.
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Just try this app: https://market.android.com/details?...wxLDIxMiwiY29tLmlubm9kcm9pZC5kcGljaGFuZ2VyIl0.
It's easy as hell, you can try and then undo effortlessly. But I'm sticking to 320 until... until I try again 240
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nobnut said:
Everything is smaller. Everything.
Yes, Go Launcher looks good at a lower dpi once you have set the rows and columns. Shortcuts, texts, widgets etc will all display as smaller.
For example O at 320 might look like o at 240.
To edit, there are apps to use (if you are noob ). The best way is to open the build.prop file in the 'system' folder, find the line ro.sf.lcd_density=320 and change the 320 to your value... then reboot.
Just remember the default value is 320 if you want to return again.
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Thanks for the link but I don't think that changing the DPI itself is any difficult. It's cleaning up the possible mess after, with changing the incompatible apps. I've heard some of them won't work right on different DPIs. Is there a thread for that around here?
Also, I read one about S-Memo not working nicely, and I use that app a LOT, so I guess I'll be monitoring what they do in that thread too.
I do like how it looks like though. Makes me feel the phone is even bigger.
At 240 (default DPI for 800x480) "all" (can't tell for sure) apps will work. Everything also looks good since, again, it's the default Android DPI and some UI elements will look like crap if you set it to 260 or so. Try out the app and see if you like it. If not just reboot the phone and it'll be back to normal.
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Wait... Need some clarification about this... I've gotten some games in the market before and I uninstalled them because they didn't go full screen. They left like a fourth of the screen unoccupied and simply black. If I switched to 240, you think they would take the full screen?
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no. for example, live holdem pro looks the same crap on 320 and 240 too
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That's not nice. Are there any workarounds for such apps? I thought DPI would be a solution.

So What's the deal with DPI and the market?

I recently installed CM9 a1 on my touchpad and one thing that has been really confusing is the dpi settings and market compatibility. I found that flashing the 120 dpi zip makes the texts really small and even unreadable due to the low pixel density of tp. I tried changing the font size setting to large but unfortunately it only affects system ui and apps but not the third party ones.
My question is, if I change my dpi from stock 160 to 120 or 132 (by editing build.prop) What happens to my installed apps? Do they get updates as usual? And what happens to the apps that are not compatible with the new dpi, do they show up as "unsupported on your device" or just disappear from the market?
Overall, what configuration do you guys recommend?
Thanks
Apps would still run on lower DPIs. Some apps/games need you to toggle the screen stretch to work. You probably won't get updates for many apps. You can fix it by pushing the modified market into system/apps and then fixing its permission. The problem with the modified market is that sometimes it will update, in that case you'll have to clear the app data for the market. Its pretty easy to spot if your market has reverted because the layout is different. Or you can just change the DPI every time you want to install something and reboot and change it back when you're done.
I've been running on 132dpi since the ICS was available. I always change the build.prop in the zip before I flash. I even put the movies market in the gapps zip.
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I use the free app, DPI Changer to change dpi without having to mess with the build.prop file. Also, there's a paid app, LCD Modder Pro, that will make the market work with just about any dpi. I use 155. I read somewhere that it's proportionally the correct dpi for the TP.
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I use the free app, DPI Changer to change dpi without having to mess with the build.prop file. Also, there's a paid app, LCD Modder Pro, that will make the market work with just about any dpi. I use 155. I read somewhere that it's proportionally the correct dpi for the TP.
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I tried the modder pro, but eventually market get's stuck again. the native dpi for the TP is 132 (that's what it is in webos). Wish next to 120 and 160 Dalingrin would also give us a dpi132 patch for the newest builds.
Why doesn't Google just add 132dpi into the next market app so its all official
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Why doesn't Google just add 132dpi into the next market app so its all official
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Because of the variation in screen sizes and resolutions on various devices.
Thanks everyone.
I sucked it up and got LCD modder pro. I changed the dpi to 132 and installed the permanent market fix. It worked great and noticed that I get the same update notifications that I get on my galaxy nexus.
The only problem is that the modified market doesn't have a tablet section (My brother's transformer prime does). It seems like modder pro installs the phone version of the market. Is there a fix for that?
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Thanks everyone.
I sucked it up and got LCD modder pro. I changed the dpi to 132 and installed the permanent market fix. It worked great and noticed that I get the same update notifications that I get on my galaxy nexus.
The only problem is that the modified market doesn't have a tablet section (My brother's transformer prime does). It seems like modder pro installs the phone version of the market. Is there a fix for that?
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you may have to edit your build prop to reflect a device so the market shows tablet apps.
try to change it to this:
ro.product.brand=samsung
ro.product.model=GT-I9100
it may or may not work.
I'm afraid you will eventually not need modder pro and instead fix this yourself with a modded trebuchet apk and build.prop. Until recently somebody modded the trebuchet for 132dpi, just like dalingrin provides the ones for 120 and 160. Hopefully that person will do this for alpha2. Also, I personally do not think there is a big difference between 120 and 132, so the 120dpi fix by dalingrin is perfectly fine for me.
derausgewanderte said:
you may have to edit your build prop to reflect a device so the market shows tablet apps.
try to change it to this:
ro.product.brand=samsung
ro.product.model=GT-I9100
it may or may not work.
I'm afraid you will eventually not need modder pro and instead fix this yourself with a modded trebuchet apk and build.prop. Until recently somebody modded the trebuchet for 132dpi, just like dalingrin provides the ones for 120 and 160. Hopefully that person will do this for alpha2. Also, I personally do not think there is a big difference between 120 and 132, so the 120dpi fix by dalingrin is perfectly fine for me.
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I use nova launcher so no problem there. trebuchet was way too buggy for me even on 160dpi, and lack of grid settings was a deal braeker.
I tried the 120 fix but I noticed even if you change the font size to large in settings, in some apps fonts are so small and pixelized they are unreadable.
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I use nova launcher so no problem there. trebuchet was way too buggy for me even on 160dpi, and lack of grid settings was a deal braeker.
I tried the 120 fix but I noticed even if you change the font size to large in settings, in some apps fonts are so small and pixelized they are unreadable.
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the problem is that market doesn't care what launcher you use. It's trebuchet that needs to be modded to get it to work. Look inside Dalingrin's dpi fixes and you will see two files - trebuchet. apk and build.prop.
Maybe somebody can tell us how to mod trebuchet and we can build our own fix.

DPI Change and SView Cover

Hope someone can help.
I have changed my lcd density through my build prop.
I'm using app settings in xposed and changed the sview Cover app to 480 but there is a black bar at the bottom.
Anyone know how to fix this?
jdubya45 said:
Hope someone can help.
I have changed my lcd density through my build prop.
I'm using app settings in xposed and changed the sview Cover app to 480 but there is a black bar at the bottom.
Anyone know how to fix this?
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there is a semi solution for this
usually people use rom toolbox to change the entire dpi.
first you must return the dpi to the normal 640 in rom toolbox
then in app settings Xposed change com.android.systemui dpi to 480
and then go to Android System (Android) and change the dpi back to 640
don't forget each time you must turn on the app setting and save after the change
this might effect some of the apps and show it in normal size but it will fix your problem
plus you can change any app's dpi to 480 from app settings later and make it small again.
omid_freesky said:
there is a semi solution for this
usually people use rom toolbox to change the entire dpi.
first you must return the dpi to the normal 640 in rom toolbox
then in app settings Xposed change com.android.systemui dpi to 480
and then go to Android System (Android) and change the dpi back to 640
don't forget each time you must turn on the app setting and save after the change
this might effect some of the apps and show it in normal size but it will fix your problem
plus you can change any app's dpi to 480 from app settings later and make it small again.
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Thought id note as far as I know the stock DPI is 480.
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I used xposed setting to change my dpi and I used it to specify original dpi of 640 for the sviewcover app but the black bar still persists.
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Thought id note as far as I know the stock DPI is 480.
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you're right, I have a galaxy note 4, I'm sorry
I'm not sure about your original dpi though, but the method should work

[Q] [KK] Changing resolution on Note 4

I'm making this thread because I'm curious if its possible to change the resolution of the Galaxy Note 4. I want this to exist here in case anyone else decides to search something similar.
This came to mind because I've noticed while on CM12 that there was a greater resolution and that apps such as KIK or Snapchat had more content on the screen then when I was on stock KK. So is there a way to have a similar resolution in Lollipop in KitKat?
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I'm making this thread because I'm curious if its possible to change the resolution of the Galaxy Note 4. I want this to exist here in case anyone else decides to search something similar.
This came to mind because I've noticed while on CM12 that there was a greater resolution and that apps such as KIK or Snapchat had more content on the screen then when I was on stock KK. So is there a way to have a similar resolution in Lollipop in KitKat?
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Do you mean dpi? Most of the aosp roms have changed the dpi
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Do you mean dpi? Most of the aosp roms have changed the dpi
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Yes that's exactly it. The dpi is lowered in CM12. I'd like to change the dpi overall for the stock Note 4 ROM, it should be possible because I notice that on App Settings on xposed you can do this but for individual apps
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Yes that's exactly it. The dpi is lowered in CM12. I'd like to change the dpi overall for the stock Note 4 ROM, it should be possible because I notice that on App Settings on xposed you can do this but for individual apps
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You have to edit the build prop and change the dpi from 640 to whatever you desire. There are apps that guides you through and buildprop edit is an app that will load your buildprop file for you (without a file explorer) what to keep in mind is unlike stock (and all the rest of the phone company out there smh) touchwiz is the only IOS where apps will not look normal. Camera will appear far right corner, dial will appear for left, etc etc. So you will need to use app settings to readjust them
hope that made some sense!
So it works and everything looks fine but the lock screen is a little off. I used textdroider DPI. Worked well but lock screen needs to be properly positioned.
Tht is one of the apps that will be messed up
This thread should help: http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...anging-note-4-dpi-settings-to-change-t2923408

Sview DPi

Anyway to change the Sview DPI to stock without having to change the systemui dpi? Using App settings, i am unable to find the sview package, but i am able to change the dpi by changing the systemui package. But that is something I want to avoid.
rengod said:
Anyway to change the Sview DPI to stock without having to change the systemui dpi? Using App settings, i am unable to find the sview package, but i am able to change the dpi by changing the systemui package. But that is something I want to avoid.
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I also have had that issue, where it's cropped on the right and bottom.
I don't think sview is its own apk.
I believe you can. What dpi are you trying to set for everything thing else?
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I believe you can. What dpi are you trying to set for everything thing else?
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450
Stock dpi is 640, so I imagine the sviews screen should be the same.
When the dpi is set to 520 the sview screen is cropped.

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