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O2 are the most shocking company ever !!

I thought this little story would show O2 in a slightly new light....
a couple of weeks ago, my prized XDA2s developed 2 faults....one, it the on/off switch stopped working and the only way to power off was to remove the battery (??!!) and two, there was no audio what so ever coming from the speaker....nothing on media player, nothing on a call (although i rarely used it as a phone)....
so, i rang the legendary CS and was told by a young person who clearly was on their first day of social speaking, that i needed to take it to my nearest O2 store...
this i did, to be told it needed to go away for repair (no replacements allowed) and that it would be approx 2 weeks......no loan unit, nothing....
anyway, phone call 2 weeks later from an entirely different branch to say my phone was back........
so, go into the store to collect only to be told by the assistant that they had not repaired the unit...........IT WAS WATER DAMAGED !!!!
personally, i have never used the pda in the rain, it has never left the expensive leather case that i lovingly enveloped it in.......plus, the screen was and still is in pristine condition, protected by the expensive protector that i purchased for it..................WATER DAMAGED!!!
he then proceeded to show me a photocopy of the main board with more arrows than a Red Indian convention - allegedly this was my board indicating all the alleged water damage...........
so after much discussion, whereby the assistant grunted, huffed, rolled his eyes, looked around the store several times at another argument that was taking place, he basically informed me there was nothing i could do........'claim on your household insurance'...........which bit of 'it has never been in the rain' did he not understand............
no repair, no replacement, don't care if i did write to Head Office, please take your £259.99 lovely pda with no audio/power button and leave....
WELL O2, YOU REALLY HAVE GOT LOUSY CUSTOMER ASSISTANCE.....
so if anyone wants knows anywhere i CAN get this fixed, i would be grateful
oh, and yes, i would definitely recommend Orange/Vodafone/T-Mobile to anyone !!!!

ouch....that sucks...were u on an insurance plan?
I was having a look through this insurance plan I'm on from o2 (oh...and not a fan of o2, just got the contract so I could get the phone for 99.99 and use it on vodafone) and if mine ever messes up *crosses fingers* then I'll probably call them up and tell them I lost it!
At least then I can be sure I'll get a working one back. lol

There is now a clause with lost phones, your claim must be accompanied by a police report number and then, at their discretion, they make a decision as to whether it is a "valid" loss, if they decide it isnt valid you get nothing it seems. I think the only people who need worry are those that have made multiple claims by way of getting a new phone every year.

all the networks are crap really, none them care, they are all halfwits in customer services.........and they still charge us a fortune for calls

It is fortunate of me, as i do not need to suffer from lousy customer service but the XDA in Singapore definitely cost more than those over at your side.

Hi, my name is Dom and I've been without my O2 XDAIIs for 1 week now. (thanks - I needed to get that off my chest)
I took my phone to an O2 shop last Monday and gave them a list of faults as long as the average M25 traffic jam. They told me 7-14 days and we should have it back.
If they tell me my unit is WATER-DAMAGED, I will be in contact with my solicitors. The closest my unit has been to water was being clipped to my belt while I took a wizz!!! Also, the only marks on the unit are the wear on the keyboard of the sliding mechanism and a slight scuff mark on the right edge where I knocked into a wall by a cyclist (crazy idiots).
My advice - contact a solicitor. Get he/she to get in tough with O2 regarding a replacement unit. The solicitor will cost a bit but it should get you a positive responce from O2. You might be able to get out of them.
Good luck!
Dom

Not only get a solicitor but make sure that the solicitor applies for costs as well as a replacement, that way it costs you nothing, assuming you win.
You may even be lucky and find a solicitor who is prepared to have a go on a no win no fee basis as it is likely to only take a few threatening letters to sort it out.

Advice re: AT&T Return?

I called AT&T tech support awhile back because of a couple problems I was having.
1st thing I noticed was the backlight settings not holding. I would set it o not turn off. It would stay that way for awhile, then revert back to shutting off at 10 seconds.
2nd problem was the case around the battery heating up when charging.
3rd problem was that the unit seemed to overheat if I used it (mail, internet, basic functions) for more than a few minutes. The display would then shut completely off, I'd have to pull the battery to shut it down, let it cool off then reboot.
Tech support turned me over to warranty repairs, who sent out a new phone.
I put the old one in the buble envelope they provided, stuck their label on and mailed it back.
I received my old phone in the post today with a big dent on the screen, and an arrow sticker pointing to the dent. When powered on, the screen shows a splat where the dent is and cracks widening out from it with no actual display visible.
The screen was in perfect condition when I mailed it out.
Now they want me to pay $500 for the new phone that they mailed me because "physical damage isn't covered".
BUT the phone wasn't damaged before I mailed it in. Obviously, I'm angry. I need to call AT&T and discuss this with them. I'm wondering if this has happened to anyone else, and if so, how did you deal with it? Or if anyone has any advice for how to deal with AT&T on this matter?
Thanks,
Kari

this seems odd..att states in their terms once you send out your device it becomes their property and they will not send it back under any circumstances..just keep calling them and calling..it might take you 5 hours of total talk time but you CAN get what you want trust me..i had a broken usb port (from the first version of the tilt that was released which was porly manufactured) which MANY people on xda had similar issues but nothing on att's or htc's side had been documented and they kept telling me "no its not covered blah bla" and finaly after about 4 hours of total talk time (mostly holding and reexplaining the situation 1 million times) i got an elevated elevated elevated personnel who put a note to waive all charges when the device was inspected so dont give up..just demand to be speak to elevated personnel and dont let your guard down make it clear that you sent it in for so and so reasons and why would you send it an obviously physically damaged device...DONT GIVE UP UNTIL YOU GET WHAT YOU WANT

Well thats a bumer, it all depends on who you talk to, when you call AT&T or the insurance company. I assume you have asurion . But my advice is to call asurion and not at&t because they have nothing to do with at&t , and demand to speak to a supervisor , and forget about the operator and request a transfer. Incase the you still have the envelope to take pictures of it and submit it to the returns claim after speaking with a supervisor. Thats if the envelope shows any external damage you can say it was the S&H carrier . its going to be a tough one but you can win. From my experience with asurion i had never had a problem . i have always reported my phones from at&t and sprint/nextel As lost or stolen , therefore they cannot demand a return on the phone. i have done it for over 4 years and have gotten over 5 thousand dollars in phones some i sold some where really lost or broken, but even if they was broken i still said lost or stolen. hope it helps for your next insurance experience.

Update
Well, I only had to talk to one person and they agreed that the phone was damaged after shipping, and removed the almost $500 charge.
Hurrah and thanks for the advice.

Which story is the truth?
The one here or the one on this Ebay listing?

Could be a coincedence. But if not that's pretty shady.

herecomesthetornado said:
Which story is the truth?
The one here or the one on this Ebay listing?
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They probably buy their red arrows at the same store.

Warranty Woes - help please!!

recently my camera failed and the x1 went back to Sony, I've now had an email saying the phone is unrepairable and I have to pay £10 to have it returned unfixed.
I called them up and they say the mainboard is bent and not covered under warranty. The case is perfect, the screen is perfect and the phone has never been dropped etc.. They said this can happen even when the phone is in a pocket or bag but classed as accidental damage so not covered. They also said it's not a replacement part and I would need to buy a whole new phone, even if I was happy to pay for repair myself.
Is this right? Do they have to prove it was dropped? Is there no way of getting this fixed even if it costs me? Who can I complain to about this?
Thanks for any advice you can give..........

What country do you live in? And has this issue happened within 6 months?
If in the UK, you may be covered by 'The Sale of Goods Act 1979' if you believe the phone was not of satisfactory quality (plus a few others reasons). However as far as I know, this would protect you from the seller, not SE.
Put simply, goods are expected to last a reasonable amount of time within normal usage (which i would argue means keeping within your pocket). If it breaks within 6 months, it is the sellers responsibility to prove that it was fit for use at the time it was sold (very hard for them to do if others are working fine). After 6 months you have another 5.5 years (4.5 years in Scotland) where you are still protected but it your responsibility to prove the goods were unfit at the time of sale.
Might be worth a shot. Info can be found on the website for BBCs Watchdog TV program: http://www.bbc.co.uk/watchdog/consumer_advice/consumer_law_sale_of_goods_emp.shtml

thanks for that, unfortunately i've had it for about 9 months so SOGA won't be easy for me to prove. I just cant get how they say it has been damaged by me, there's no signs of dropping, the phone is absolutely mint! I'm very mad indeed

the same thing has just happened to me with vodafone in the uk.
phone was sent back to the service centre as some of the keys on the right-hand side of the keyboard were working intermittantly which i believe is a common issue.
the phone was returned to me with a blurry picture of what may or may not be the inside of my phone saying that the phone had been damaged and was not covered by warranty. my phone has never been dropped and has been very well take care of. :-(

I have asked that they escalate my complaint and I'll be getting a call back tomorrow but I don't hold out too much hope. Not quite sure what too do after that but I wont stop there, considering the cost of the phone originally it's taking the p***

sounds shocking. Good luck mate and what country are you in?

I have just picked my phone up from an o2 store after sending it off for repair, the keys only worked intermittently (as previously posted) along with a few other issues. I received t.he handset back with a "Beyond Economical Repair" diagnosis, claiming that i had somehow bent and cracked the motherboard due to physical damage. I had to instead claim from o2 insurance costing me £25. I think in the future its much better to contact Sony Ericsson directly.

I'm in the UK and today had a call back from the escalations team who just confirmed what I was told yesterday, basically bent board, not our problem, buy a new one. They will send it back for free though which I'm supposed to be grateful for.
I'm now going to take it to their director of support, when you look at the 1000+ posts about the cracks and another 2 replies in this thread about the 'bent mainboard' the manufacture of this phone is questionable to say the least and goes a long way to prove the sale of goods act 'unfit for purpose' rule. I'm happy to take this to civil court if needs be........I'm a principals man and I'm seriously pi**ed...

Can you send it back to Sony? Sony repaired my damaged screen/cracked casing for free in about 7 days

i think it depends on country, in my they even charge me changin the case, becouse "they didnt get any input about cracks in case". i show them xda thread with numeros complaining and no luck, had to pay...

I recently sent the phone back to change the keyboard and upgrading of firmware. I had to wait 3 weeks for a keyboard cos they went out of stock for it.
They even changed my cover that had some scratches without even me asking. Also the D-pad was changed cos of some peeling.
I thought that they gave me a reburbished set so I checked the IMEI, its ok. They even offered me an extended warranty program where I pay around 70SGD and it covers even accessories like headphones and such for a one-to-one exchange scheme.
This is SE Singapore Support.

Samsung Warranty Service is a Scam! What Can I do now?

Word of warning: don't ever buy a Samsung phone if you expect to be covered under the one year manufacturer's warranty. They will make up some excuse to not honor your repair!
This is my situation:
I have a brand new Samsung Galaxy S6. I was having some issues with the battery getting too hot and I noticed some other minor issues that seemed to be hardware related. This phone is well within the manufacturer warranty period and has never been dropped or been exposed to liquid in any way. I sent it in for repair, hoping that Samsung would either replace the battery or send me a new (refurbished) replacement S6. I followed all the steps to send the phone in for repair, had to get a loaner phone for the time-being, and waited.
My phone arrived at their repair center in Texas on 7/15 and was checked in by one of their technicians. Not even 12 hours later, I checked the status of my repair online and found updated technician notes stating the phone was looked at and it was determined to be "beyond economical repair." The technician's notes stated that my new $700 Galaxy S6 phone showed signs of liquid damage on the motherboard! How could a phone that is designed as one piece and not easily taken apart, be so quickly opened up and shown to have corrosion on the motherboard?! This is a three month old phone at best.
So, now my warranty is voided and I have no idea the condition the phone will be in when I get it back. Upon finding this out I called Samsung to hopefully get a solution before they shipped my phone back. Well not surprisingly, I was told nothing could be done because the phone was now marked as having liquid damage. I even spoke with a supervisor and asked for proof of the damage in the form of photos but they refused. Now what do I do? The issues originally were not major on my phone and it was working when I sent it in. What if I get it back and it's no longer operational? I can't afford to lose the money I paid for this phone by getting it back and it no longer working.
That's worse case scenario I guess, but still, do yourself a favor and buy an iPhone. At least they honor their warranty and don't make up damage claims they can't prove.
Super disappointed in Samsung. Share this. Tell everyone you know.
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I posted this on Samsung's Facebook page and they asked me to send their support department a private message with my ticket number. See their response in the attached image...

I had the same problem with my wife's Galaxy S6.
After a hot day the phone went crazy-mode and I contacted Samsung and they told me to sent it in for repair.
One week after I sent the phone I receive it back with that "beyond economical repair/warranty void" slap in the face.
I called and got escalated to someone that made a 3-way call with the repair center where they told me water damage.
I asked for proof/pictures and they said they were confidential (really?!?). After that the CSR told me there was nothing they could do as their policy for water damage is warranty void - no repair and he suggested me to email the president ([email protected]).
I emailed them and the next day I received the pictures in the email (which could belong to any device as it was a close up from some part of the main board) and a polite message basically saying: water damage, no repair, nothing can be done.
I tested the phone it is working and I told my wife to keep using it until it dies (almost a month it is working fine).
Luckily when I got the phone at BestBuy I got a square trade warranty for the phone so if it dies at least I can get another one but I still feel betrayed by Samsung on this.

If you sweat enough it will cause the water damage stickers to change color. Warranty through Tmobile would have denied you as well. The only difference is Tmobile would have been more of a pain because you would have already been on your refurb for three weeks before you found out your claim was denied. LGSilva how much do you need to pay to use your warranty? Because they do cover water damage and I'm just wondering what the deductible is.

The liquid sticker is unreliable. When i worked at verizon for 10.5 years with revenue assurance and device testing during the alltel merger verizon stopped using the LDI sticker because it turns for sometimes no reason.
Samsung should be able to provide proof of corrosion or other physical evidence other than the LDI
Even apple made statement regarding the falsehoods of the LDI. http://gizmodo.com/5747878/triggered-water-damage-indicator-doesnt-rule-out-replacement-iphones

Taking your phone into the bathroom when you shower can also trip the void stick. So be careful

we as consumers need to fight this fraudulent method of determining liquid damage, the manufacturers are so lazy that they cannot identify corrosion and prove it? Somehow we should bend over to their corporate slob laziness?
No thanks. Fight back, and if Samsung isn't gonna do anything about it climb the ladder, their US HQ is in TX.

@ThePagel The deductible is $75

Well you water damaged it what do you expect. Warranty via Samsung is one of the best out there.
Sent from my A0001

Here in canada, I had broken my note 3 screen within a week of release, rooted and everything, they fixed screen without issue, for free. Same thing happened with my note 4, exact same thing. Samsung is awesome, at least here in canada.

Not to be mean or anything, but if you actually bought a warranty from another company that covered full accidental damage you wouldn't have ran into this $700 expense that cannot be reimbursed. Never rely on manufacturer warranties.

you guys really need to get squaretrade $5 phone insurance. its a no brainer, protect your investment!

Bought a Tmobile Note 3 for my son from Tmobile with the warranty. The Note 3 was under warranty. It wouldn't power on unless it was plugged in. Unplug it and it powered down. Battery at 100%.
My son was working on a ship overseas and had to buy a new phone.
Called Tmobile - took 3.5 hours (an entire afternoon) to get them to set up a warranty return. They just couldn't coordinate at the office to make it happen.
Eventually they got it right and sent a phone to my local Tmobile store to exchange.
The manager had a light and showed me a tiny crack in one of the corners.
He said, if I send this in, T-mobile will charge you $175 to repair the crack.
Well, a brand-new Note 3 is only $125 on Ebay or other places.
I checked with several phone repair places. They explained to me that the Samsung Note 3 had a crazy front case that Samsung tried once and dropped.
So,, my Samsung Note 2 or the Samsung Note 4 would only cost around $40 to repair But a Note 3 is $250.
The phone works - it just won't stay powered unless it is plugged in. It's not because of the tiny crack on the front.
But, the warranty will charge me much more than a brand-new phone if I try to use the Tmobile warranty!
I have 9 more payments of $10 a month to pay off a Tmobile phone that worked for 90 days.
Tmobile warranty is horrible! I have been on Tmobile since 1999. I will drop Tmobile on a family plan the moment there is a better deal.
I have to use wireless in my home in the middle of Denver. Tmobile bars are zero! Tmobile sent a home booster. It helps get one bar then no bars.
Tmobile like many other companies just doesn't care.

nicklopez1 said:
Word of warning: don't ever buy a Samsung phone if you expect to be covered under the one year manufacturer's warranty. They will make up some excuse to not honor your repair!
This is my situation:
I have a brand new Samsung Galaxy S6. I was having some issues with the battery getting too hot and I noticed some other minor issues that seemed to be hardware related. This phone is well within the manufacturer warranty period and has never been dropped or been exposed to liquid in any way. I sent it in for repair, hoping that Samsung would either replace the battery or send me a new (refurbished) replacement S6. I followed all the steps to send the phone in for repair, had to get a loaner phone for the time-being, and waited.
My phone arrived at their repair center in Texas on 7/15 and was checked in by one of their technicians. Not even 12 hours later, I checked the status of my repair online and found updated technician notes stating the phone was looked at and it was determined to be "beyond economical repair." The technician's notes stated that my new $700 Galaxy S6 phone showed signs of liquid damage on the motherboard! How could a phone that is designed as one piece and not easily taken apart, be so quickly opened up and shown to have corrosion on the motherboard?! This is a three month old phone at best.
So, now my warranty is voided and I have no idea the condition the phone will be in when I get it back. Upon finding this out I called Samsung to hopefully get a solution before they shipped my phone back. Well not surprisingly, I was told nothing could be done because the phone was now marked as having liquid damage. I even spoke with a supervisor and asked for proof of the damage in the form of photos but they refused. Now what do I do? The issues originally were not major on my phone and it was working when I sent it in. What if I get it back and it's no longer operational? I can't afford to lose the money I paid for this phone by getting it back and it no longer working.
That's worse case scenario I guess, but still, do yourself a favor and buy an iPhone. At least they honor their warranty and don't make up damage claims they can't prove.
Super disappointed in Samsung. Share this. Tell everyone you know.
Update*
I posted this on Samsung's Facebook page and they asked me to send their support department a private message with my ticket number. See their response in the attached image...
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I looked this up on Google to see if anyone is having the same issues as i am right now and everything you said is exactly what i am going through!! My phone screen isn't working and sent it to Samsung under warranty their saying i owe them $362.00 because it isn't under warranty it is liquid damage by shipping it to them. Umm no i said you all are making up excuses so i pay you and i said i am not paying you it is under warranty!! I am not sure if i am getting my phone back now as of right now using my old phone that won't let me make calls at all ugh how annoying should of just went to a iPhone if i knew this.

General Be careful with Samsung UK warranty repairs!

HI all, unfortunately I had to send my S21 Ultra for warranty repair, in normal circumstances I would not bother writing a post, things can brake but what I have faced today is just shocking.
I have a contract with EE, they offered me that they might fix it, but if I want I can go with Samsung, and they even advised second option which is ok as Samsung knows how to fix their phones, right? Well, not really.
Issue with my phone was quite simple, buzzing vibration motor - hardware issue for sure, as when I pressed the back during vibration the buzzing noise stopped. Not sure what was wrong exactly, maybe faulty motor or something loose etc. It is not a case. I have described it as best as I could on Samsung chat and was happy when DPD collected parcel.
Now is the funny and most important part
In UK there is company called TMT First, and they fix them for Samsung(at least they have done it in my case).
Once they received the phone I received an e-mail with some details and information regarding phone Symptoms, exactly "Symptoms - ON/OFF".
Well... It was strange so I did quick chat with Samsung, and they have assured me that probably that's what engineers put as a description but I should be calm as they have information about vibrations, also they have an access to the chat we had regarding issues. Ok fair enough, maybe battery died before they received it. No problem.
Yesterday received e-mail with information that the phone is fixed, great! Hold down, in e-mail I could notice something similar "Symptoms - Power".
Again another quick chat etc. explanation that phone has been definitely fixed and engineers will not send it back without proper checks, they even provided phone number to contact that company directly, as it was after 5PM they have been closed.
So I rang them up this morning, and the lady said "We did software reset and that's it", I kindly asked what about original issue with vibration motor, has it been fixed/replaced - "vibration motor was not checked".
Seriously Samsung? You have huge company, we pay a lot of money and customer care looks like a rubbish!
I asked the lady, if they still have the phone is there any chance that engineer will check it again against buzzing vibrations etc. explained all again. She said he will, but after checking google reviews they always say that but they do not fix the phones.
Of course Samsung chat/phone customer service are unable to help as "phone will be fully tested before I get it", and if they not fix it I will have to go through that once again.
I came back to Samsung after 8 years, had issues with other devices etc, and never ever seen something like that.
Thankfully EE said if it's still broken after they send it back they will fix it, so keep in mind next time before you send your phone for warranty repair.

Well, well, these kind of things just happen every now and then. Maybe the people at TMT First are overwhelmed (who knows how many repair contracts they have and how many phones they get daily), maybe the engineer in charge had a bad day, there could be a lot of explanations.
The only thing you could and should do is get your phone fixed, give TMT First bad reviews on all relevant platforms and then report your bad experience to Samsung.

Good to hear that nothing has changed regarding Samsung UK warranty and after sales support, still rubbish.
My brother went to one of their Samsung service centers with an issue regarding shut downs. In a nutshell he received his repaired phone back with another defect. Basically after a long process they did nothing to help him. Samsung USA is similar, one just goes round in circles and nothing ever gets done.

Nowadays I usually buy from a reputable reseller and try to solve my issues with them directly.
I hate to say it, but I appreciate amazon's way of doing things (mostly replace or refund).

"Happy" to see that I am not the only one... But I would prefer to make a topic "Samsung UK warranty repair is very good" instead.
According to my case as the device is less than 6 months old I am going to contact EE today as they are the retailer, I have to find out who takes responsibility in this case as I will ask for phone replacement if the repair is unsuccessful. But probably I will have to go EE warranty repair first.
It is really sad, that we customers are treated like that. I thought Samsung is much more relevant in such things. I am not blaming them that something broke down. Those things happens, but for gods sake, we pay so much for those things and when we demand our rights they do not care.
I am going to report it on Samsung members as well - maybe we got much more people with similar issues.