Okay, I am trying to make sense of this....I downloaded Validus 6.0 ROM the other day with the KK bootloader and it didn't work. So I tried another ROM and got it to work...used it for 24 hours and did a NANDroid backup and tried Validus 6.0 with JB bootloader. The one with the JB Bootloader worked....but yet, its still Android 4.4.4 KitKat....So obviously, I have the JB Bootloader. Is this what is keeping me from using alot of ROMS? IF so, how would I upgrade to the KK Bootloader for my Atrix HD?
EDIT: That was supposed to say JB bootloader and KK bootloader.....my mistake
Dvdxploitr said:
Okay, I am trying to make sense of this....I downloaded Validus 6.0 ROM the other day with the KK bootloader and it didn't work. So I tried another ROM and got it to work...used it for 24 hours and did a NANDroid backup and tried Validus 6.0 with JB bootloader. The one with the JB Bootloader worked....but yet, its still Android 4.4.4 KitKat....So obviously, I have the JB Bootloader. Is this what is keeping me from using alot of ROMS? IF so, how would I upgrade to the KK Bootloader for my Atrix HD?
EDIT: That was supposed to say JB bootloader and KK bootloader.....my mistake
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Until the OFFICIAL version of KitKat is released by Motorola for the Atrix HD, then your phone will always have the JB Bootloader. It is part of your phone and is not changed when you flash a Custom ROM, and you can't upgrade it on your own. Others have tried.
That being said, there are still some ROMs that you can flash to your phone, but only if the ROM developer/maintainer has built it specifically for use on a phone with a JB bootloader.
Personally, I'm using a branch of CyanogenMod built for JB phones like ours: https://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=moto_msm8960_jbbl
So if you're just looking for any custom ROM, I'd give that a shot. It's probably the most stable, but lacks some of the advanced features of the other ROMs.
Hope that helped.
p.s. The reason it's so complicated was that on 7/1 is when the CM team decided to (temporarily) abandon the JB bootloader folks on our family of devices. Some other devs stepped up and started to maintain it, until the official version is released. Many ROMs are based on that "unified" base, so everything got messy after that date.
this answered my question in the other section. thanks.
quasihellfish said:
Until the OFFICIAL version of KitKat is released by Motorola for the Atrix HD, then your phone will always have the JB Bootloader. It is part of your phone and is not changed when you flash a Custom ROM, and you can't upgrade it on your own. Others have tried.
That being said, there are still some ROMs that you can flash to your phone, but only if the ROM developer/maintainer has built it specifically for use on a phone with a JB bootloader.
Personally, I'm using a branch of CyanogenMod built for JB phones like ours: https://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=moto_msm8960_jbbl
So if you're just looking for any custom ROM, I'd give that a shot. It's probably the most stable, but lacks some of the advanced features of the other ROMs.
Hope that helped.
p.s. The reason it's so complicated was that on 7/1 is when the CM team decided to (temporarily) abandon the JB bootloader folks on our family of devices. Some other devs stepped up and started to maintain it, until the official version is released. Many ROMs are based on that "unified" base, so everything got messy after that date.
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I have unlocked my bootloader, installed CWM, but when I try to install the version of CM 11 that you linked above it returns an error status 7 message. Is there something I'm missing here, because as far as I can tell I've followed all the correct steps so far.
theusualuser said:
I have unlocked my bootloader, installed CWM, but when I try to install the version of CM 11 that you linked above it returns an error status 7 message. Is there something I'm missing here, because as far as I can tell I've followed all the correct steps so far.
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Could be a bad download. Redownload and try again.
theusualuser said:
I have unlocked my bootloader, installed CWM, but when I try to install the version of CM 11 that you linked above it returns an error status 7 message. Is there something I'm missing here, because as far as I can tell I've followed all the correct steps so far.
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Try installing Philz recovery, version 6.43.8 (and nothing later than that). https://goo.im/devs/philz_touch/CWM_Advanced_Edition/moto_msm8960/
quasihellfish said:
Try installing Philz recovery, version 6.43.8 (and nothing later than that). https://goo.im/devs/philz_touch/CWM_Advanced_Edition/moto_msm8960/
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You were right, it was the recovery. Once I got cwm touch on there it installed no problem.
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my apologies if this question has been asked before but since i couldnt find it anywhere so i am posting now:
this is my first time rooting an android device and that too coz recently my htc desire c had become super slow so i unlocked bootloader and downloaded the hasoon2000 tool but after the recovery step i was totally lost on how to flash kernel and all so i switched to superboot and i successfully rooted my phone.
now i wanted to install a rom so i chose nameless rom but the instructions were so confusing and i messed up. i couldn't install it and then my phn wnt start so i went back to hasoon2000 and flashed kernel using the boot.img from the nameless rom and my phn was back up but my wifi is not on anymore. its says error and i saw that my mac address was gone. then i tried again installing the rom and this time i did successfully install it but my wifi is gone
i have two questions:
1. how can i get my wifi back in this rom?
2. can i install any other rom and if i do then will i get my wifi back?
sadiafrin2013 said:
my apologies if this question has been asked before but since i couldnt find it anywhere so i am posting now:
this is my first time rooting an android device and that too coz recently my htc desire c had become super slow so i unlocked bootloader and downloaded the hasoon2000 tool but after the recovery step i was totally lost on how to flash kernel and all so i switched to superboot and i successfully rooted my phone.
now i wanted to install a rom so i chose nameless rom but the instructions were so confusing and i messed up. i couldn't install it and then my phn wnt start so i went back to hasoon2000 and flashed kernel using the boot.img from the nameless rom and my phn was back up but my wifi is not on anymore. its says error and i saw that my mac address was gone. then i tried again installing the rom and this time i did successfully install it but my wifi is gone
i have two questions:
1. how can i get my wifi back in this rom?
2. can i install any other rom and if i do then will i get my wifi back?
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Click on the second link in my signature.. Look for Prometheus Sense Kernel there. Flash that using fastboot, (or the toolkit) and your wifi should be back.
aashay960 said:
Click on the second link in my signature.. Look for Prometheus Sense Kernel there. Flash that using fastboot, (or the toolkit) and your wifi should be back.
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thanx so much its working now
Nameless is really outdated. I suggest you switching roms ASAP.
me4488 said:
Nameless is really outdated. I suggest you switching roms ASAP.
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what rom should i install then?
sadiafrin2013 said:
what rom should i install then?
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Again, second link in my signature.... Check out those roms, look at screenshots and decide
aashay960 said:
Again, second link in my signature.... Check out those roms, look at screenshots and decide
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hey u think if i knew what im doing then i would have just done it already
on serious note please suggest me what should i install
here is what i am thinking of doing
either get the revolution sense5 edition
or the jellybean looks tempting but im sot sure if i can install it by myself
sadiafrin2013 said:
hey u think if i knew what im doing then i would have just done it already
on serious note please suggest me what should i install
here is what i am thinking of doing
either get the revolution sense5 edition
or the jellybean looks tempting but im sot sure if i can install it by myself
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The 'method' to install any ROM is the same and its not difficult. And there is no such thing as a best rom. It's just personal preferences. So if you like HTC Sense, then go for Revolution or Sensational Rom. And if you like a more 'Nexus-like' feel then we've got a lot of JB Roms for you. JB ROMs are believed to be faster than Sense ROMs in general.
So just look at threads of the different ROMs and once you decide to install, download it. I'm running Cyanogenmod 10 right now. I've been using it for a long while now. It was the first JB rom made for this phone and all the other ROMs are made using this as a base..
We even have Samsung-like and Xperia-like Roms. So if you're interested in that, have a look.
And for Sense, Sensational ROM V4 is the most up to date ROM we have. It has a Sense 5 feel to it..
Hope that helps a bit. One more thing - never ask for best rom or best kernel. It's bad manners. But we can understand as you're new..
Is there a bare bones ROM available for 4.4.4? I recall some being available for previous devices and those seem to have to have the best performance and most popular. Basically just the stock ROM debloated and flashable via TWRP. And if so, would this have working touchless control/active display?
thanks!
The reason it probably isn't there is that most people just root and delete the 10-20 apks manually. Takes pretty much the same amount of time for the same end result.
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Here you go. http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development/rom-krypton-v1-2-v1-3b1-6-9-2014-t2716657 You can always remove more.
I'm using Epsilon Project ROM on my XT1060 Verizon Dev edition running AT&T Sim card. It's very minimalist, has working active display and touchless control, and reduces battery consumption considerably compared to stock (DU Battery Saver estimated battery time jumped from 18 hours to 28 hours from full).
Here's the link to the ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development/rom-epsilon-project-v1-0-09-03-clean-t2866450
thanks for the feedback y'all, looks like I've got some reading/research to do.
IMNUTS - agreed, but from my experience, I think it's best to start with a clean slate rather than trying to debloat various apps - as those could have left other files on the system that could hinder performance.
Make sure to look into Krypton(blur/stock based), Eclipse(same):good:. Honestly I've only ran Krypton but I went back to stock rooted... + xposed etc... had some lag here and there in Krypton, stock is noticiably snappier for me:/ *shrugs
bothgoodandbad said:
Make sure to look into Krypton(blur/stock based), Eclipse(same):good:. Honestly I've only ran Krypton but I went back to stock rooted... + xposed etc... had some lag here and there in Krypton, stock is noticiably snappier for me:/ *shrugs
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Went with krypton. Will report later this week.
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Do you guys (or anyone) know if I would be able to downgrade to a stock 4.4.2 after upgrading to 4.4.4 on Krypton (or any custom ROM, for that matter)? I know there's been a lot of talk about how you shouldn't downgrade... I've always been a little unclear as to whether that applies to stock ROMs only or both stock and custom.
Also, what happens if the install doesn't work? Can I flash a downgraded ROM? I tried installing the latest CM11 for my phone, but it failed, and I reinstalled a stock 4.2.2, and just reading through the forums... I feel like that was a big freakin' no-no.
Travisdroidx2 said:
Here you go. http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development/rom-krypton-v1-2-v1-3b1-6-9-2014-t2716657 You can always remove more.
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TheBoiledDogs said:
I'm using Epsilon Project ROM on my XT1060 Verizon Dev edition running AT&T Sim card. It's very minimalist, has working active display and touchless control, and reduces battery consumption considerably compared to stock (DU Battery Saver estimated battery time jumped from 18 hours to 28 hours from full).
Here's the link to the ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development/rom-epsilon-project-v1-0-09-03-clean-t2866450
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cxwong1 said:
Do you guys (or anyone) know if I would be able to downgrade to a stock 4.4.2 after upgrading to 4.4.4 on Krypton (or any custom ROM, for that matter)? I know there's been a lot of talk about how you shouldn't downgrade... I've always been a little unclear as to whether that applies to stock ROMs only or both stock and custom.
Also, what happens if the install doesn't work? Can I flash a downgraded ROM? I tried installing the latest CM11 for my phone, but it failed, and I reinstalled a stock 4.2.2, and just reading through the forums... I feel like that was a big freakin' no-no.
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Roms don't flash bootloader and other certain things, so... The rule is really, don't downgrade official firmware, ever. Once you flash 4.4.2 or higher, you cannot downgrade. Roms are not included, as they don't touch the bootloader. So yes, if you were on official 4.4.2 firmware, flashed a 4.4.4 custom rom, and want to flash 4.4.2 official firmware again.... That's fine.
But if you flash 4.4.4 firmware with fastboot or RSDLite, that's it.... No going back to 4.4.2.
Now, my disclaimer.... You SHOULD be OK. There's no guarantees in life, especially on phone flashing.... Anything can go horribly wrong anytime and doing anything. So do all this at your own peril. ?
Thanks!
Darth said:
Roms don't flash bootloader and other certain things, so... The rule is really, don't downgrade official firmware, ever. Once you flash 4.4.2 or higher, you cannot downgrade. Roms are not included, as they don't touch the bootloader. So yes, if you were on official 4.4.2 firmware, flashed a 4.4.4 custom rom, and want to flash 4.4.2 official firmware again.... That's fine. But if you flash 4.4.4 firmware with fastboot or RSDLite, that's it.... No going back to 4.4.2. Now, my disclaimer.... You SHOULD be OK. There's no guarantees in life, especially on phone flashing.... Anything can go horribly wrong anytime and doing anything. So do all this at your own peril. ?
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Guys I am actually stock at the moment but doubletap to wake up screen is the feature
which I really want on my M7, I read some where long time ago that it was not possible on
M7 since it was a hardware feature but recently I came across a kernel for M7 with this feature. see below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-htc-one/development/kernel-elite-kernels-t2961835
The above kernel needs a GPE L Rom.
I am thinking of rooting and installing a custom rom now, I wanted to ask what rom should I
download in order to get this feature since I am new so I have no idea what a GPE L rom is.
Thanks in advance and sorry if its a noob question!!
This is a gpe l rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2965049
[ROM] ★☆★Nocturnal GE CDMA-Lollipop|5.0.1|12/27/14|★☆★
It is vanilla android meaning it does not contain any sense elements. This has been built into to many roms and kernels over the past 18 months if you prefer sense my stock sense rom has this built in
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2848102
[rom] sense 6 4.4.3 Stock (6.09.401.10)(11/19/14)
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Just making sure!!
Thanks a lot, So if I am not mistaken the second Rom you mentioned has this feature built in but
if I need this feature on Nocturnal Rom I will need to flash the elite kernel?
thicklizard said:
This is a gpe l rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2965049
[ROM] ★☆★Nocturnal GE CDMA-Lollipop|5.0.1|12/27/14|★☆★
It is vanilla android meaning it does not contain any sense elements. This has been built into to many roms and kernels over the past 18 months if you prefer sense my stock sense rom has this built in
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2848102
[rom] sense 6 4.4.3 Stock (6.09.401.10)(11/19/14)
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waqasr said:
Thanks a lot, So if I am not mistaken the second Rom you mentioned has this feature built in but
if I need this feature on Nocturnal Rom I will need to flash the elite kernel?
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Correct
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waqasr said:
Guys I am actually stock at the moment but doubletap to wake up screen is the feature
which I really want on my M7, I read some where long time ago that it was not possible on
M7 since it was a hardware feature but recently I came across a kernel for M7 with this feature. see below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-htc-one/development/kernel-elite-kernels-t2961835
The above kernel needs a GPE L Rom.
I am thinking of rooting and installing a custom rom now, I wanted to ask what rom should I
download in order to get this feature since I am new so I have no idea what a GPE L rom is.
Thanks in advance and sorry if its a noob question!!
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thicklizard said:
This is a gpe l rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2965049
[ROM] ★☆★Nocturnal GE CDMA-Lollipop|5.0.1|12/27/14|★☆★
It is vanilla android meaning it does not contain any sense elements. This has been built into to many roms and kernels over the past 18 months if you prefer sense my stock sense rom has this built in
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2848102
[rom] sense 6 4.4.3 Stock (6.09.401.10)(11/19/14)
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As thick said, most custom kernels do come with double tap to wake, aka dt2w.
I'm assuming you know the procedure for rooting and flashing a ROM.
In order to get dt2w, first flash a ROM of choice. Boot up, and set it up according to your liking. Then, find a compatible kernel (we can help you with that), and flash that. Boot up again, make sure (in your phone's settings) that the kernel flashed successfully, then download a kernel tuning app like TricksterMOD and go into "Screen Wake Settings."
Note: some kernels may use AROMA, which lets you configure dt2w while flashing. The above should still apply if you want to change your settings later on.
Thick's ROM comes with it built in, but most other ROMs don't.
Happy flashing, and remember, ask twice, flash once.
I appreciate it!!
I rooted and played around with different Roms on my previous phones e.g. HTC Hero, NS4g, and Evo4G
but since my HTC one is still being updated via OTA officially I didn't proceed with rooting yet.
I really wanted DT2w feature and I don't think any update would give me that feature so that's why
I am thinking about rooting my phone. I really appreciate your help since you said you can help with
choosing a kernel please go ahead and suggest a good kernel and few feature rich/stable Roms.
sauprankul said:
As thick said, most custom kernels do come with double tap to wake, aka dt2w.
I'm assuming you know the procedure for rooting and flashing a ROM.
In order to get dt2w, first flash a ROM of choice. Boot up, and set it up according to your liking. Then, find a compatible kernel (we can help you with that), and flash that. Boot up again, make sure (in your phone's settings) that the kernel flashed successfully, then download a kernel tuning app like TricksterMOD and go into "Screen Wake Settings."
Note: some kernels may use AROMA, which lets you configure dt2w while flashing. The above should still apply if you want to change your settings later on.
Thick's ROM comes with it built in, but most other ROMs don't.
Happy flashing, and remember, ask twice, flash once.
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waqasr said:
I rooted and played around with different Roms on my previous phones e.g. HTC Hero, NS4g, and Evo4G
but since my HTC one is still being updated via OTA officially I didn't proceed with rooting yet.
I really wanted DT2w feature and I don't think any update would give me that feature so that's why
I am thinking about rooting my phone. I really appreciate your help since you said you can help with
choosing a kernel please go ahead and suggest a good kernel and few feature rich/stable Roms.
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I would suggest SD 12 since it's on the latest base (.12, which has some important bug fixes) and it's relatively close to stock.
Along with that, I would suggest using ElementalX 18, which is one of the more easy Kernels to set up. It uses AROMA, so you don't have to download any apps to adjust your settings later. I had a good experience with the battery saving/thermal throttling/undervolting settings (you'll see those come up when you try to flash it). I don't recommend messing with the clock settings, however.
Wipe (default wipe in TWRP), flash ROM, boot, set up, go into recovery, flash kernel, reboot, wait, reboot again. That's the procedure I follow.
I appreciate it!!
sauprankul said:
I would suggest SD 12 since it's on the latest base (.12, which has some important bug fixes) and it's relatively close to stock.
Along with that, I would suggest using ElementalX 18, which is one of the more easy Kernels to set up. It uses AROMA, so you don't have to download any apps to adjust your settings later. I had a good experience with the battery saving/thermal throttling/undervolting settings (you'll see those come up when you try to flash it). I don't recommend messing with the clock settings, however.
Wipe (default wipe in TWRP), flash ROM, boot, set up, go into recovery, flash kernel, reboot, wait, reboot again. That's the procedure I follow.
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Thank you, I really appreciate your help and recommendation.
sauprankul said:
I would suggest SD 12 since it's on the latest base (.12, which has some important bug fixes) and it's relatively close to stock.
Along with that, I would suggest using ElementalX 18, which is one of the more easy Kernels to set up. It uses AROMA, so you don't have to download any apps to adjust your settings later. I had a good experience with the battery saving/thermal throttling/undervolting settings (you'll see those come up when you try to flash it). I don't recommend messing with the clock settings, however.
Wipe (default wipe in TWRP), flash ROM, boot, set up, go into recovery, flash kernel, reboot, wait, reboot again. That's the procedure I follow.
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I have finally rooted my phone and I am in process of trying different roms at the moment, I tried to flash the ElementX18 kernel on my stock rooted rom but the installation failed so Now I am going to install SD12 which you mentioned and then flash the ElementX18 kernel. Since you mentioned you had a good experience with thermal throttling/undervolting can you please give me safe or your values so I can give them a shot as well. Thank you
waqasr said:
I have finally rooted my phone and I am in process of trying different roms at the moment, I tried to flash the ElementX18 kernel on my stock rooted rom but the installation failed so Now I am going to install SD12 which you mentioned and then flash the ElementX18 kernel. Since you mentioned you had a good experience with thermal throttling/undervolting can you please give me safe or your values so I can give them a shot as well. Thank you
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EX 18 is a 4.4.3 kernel, you probably used it on a 4.4.2 ROM. A 25 mV undervolt with "run cool" setting would be good.
sauprankul said:
EX 18 is a 4.4.3 kernel, you probably used it on a 4.4.2 ROM. A 25 mV undervolt with "run cool" setting would be good.
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Yes you are right I was trying it first on my stock rom which was 4.4.2 if I am not mistaken that was the last official OTA
update for me. I am on SD 12 ROM and EX18 Kernel at the moment and loving it. I tried SlimKat which was not bad but for some reason I couldn't fix the resolution of the screen everything was too small for me (icons,fonts etc). Latest Liquid Smooth didnt recognize my sim card so I had to move away from it. It seems like for now SD12 is going to be my daily driver.
In case if I want to give SlimKat another shot can I use EX18 on it or it's only a sense kernel? also SlimKat is 4.4.4 so what good kernel can you suggest which will give me DT2W option?
waqasr said:
Yes you are right I was trying it first on my stock rom which was 4.4.2 if I am not mistaken that was the last official OTA
update for me. I am on SD 12 ROM and EX18 Kernel at the moment and loving it. I tried SlimKat which was not bad but for some reason I couldn't fix the resolution of the screen everything was too small for me (icons,fonts etc). Latest Liquid Smooth didnt recognize my sim card so I had to move away from it. It seems like for now SD12 is going to be my daily driver.
In case if I want to give SlimKat another shot can I use EX18 on it or it's only a sense kernel? also SlimKat is 4.4.4 so what good kernel can you suggest which will give me DT2W option?
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EX18 is sense only.
And sorry, I don't really know about nonsense stuff.
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EX18 is sense only.
And sorry, I don't really know about nonsense stuff.
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No problem bro, I appreciate it.
I've trying to install SlimKat build 7.0 Official 5942, with no sucess. Everytime I get an error status 7, that this needs a KK bootloader. I've seen that Atrix HD still has no KK bootloader, on JB. What do I need to install it? I been reading posts everywhere, long time with no clue what I am doing wrong. Any help would be appreciated greatly.
Also, I was trying to flash CyanFox, but official site seems to be unavailable since December, under the promise of being back ver soon. Anyone has a copy of the last rom they released? I've seen a lot of good comments about it, enough to use it as daily rom while we wait for the site to come back online. Please share a copy if you have it
Edit: Forgot to mention, I have unlocked the BL, and installed some customs roms already. Tryed with Philz and CWW 6.0.4.4...
Perhaps try CWM 6.0.5.1, might have more success (I'm not saying you will, I'm saying you might, it can't hurt to try it):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/atrix-hd/development/recovery-cwm-6-0-5-1-jbbl-t2891842
Sprungmonkey said:
I've trying to install SlimKat build 7.0 Official 5942, with no sucess. Everytime I get an error status 7, that this needs a KK bootloader. I've seen that Atrix HD still has no KK bootloader, on JB. What do I need to install it? I been reading posts everywhere, long time with no clue what I am doing wrong. Any help would be appreciated greatly.
Also, I was trying to flash CyanFox, but official site seems to be unavailable since December, under the promise of being back ver soon. Anyone has a copy of the last rom they released? I've seen a lot of good comments about it, enough to use it as daily rom while we wait for the site to come back online. Please share a copy if you have it
Edit: Forgot to mention, I have unlocked the BL, and installed some customs roms already. Tryed with Philz and CWW 6.0.4.4...
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Slimkat - wait for dev to release a jbbl edition (there might be a CM12 floating around that i saw, but did not flash)
CyanROM - wait til dev gets it back up online
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Hi,
I haveandroid 5.0.2 stock rom rooted and xposed.
I recently be notified about a "little" Android 5 OTA update. After discussions, i undesrtood that if i want to make this update, i could have to reflash my rom, reroot mydevice, reinstall xposed, etc.., so i think i will skip it.
But if i skip it, will i be notified for "Android 6" ?
Thanks
nonobio said:
Hi,
I haveandroid 5.0.2 stock rom rooted and xposed.
I recently be notified about a "little" Android 5 OTA update. After discussions, i undesrtood that if i want to make this update, i could have to reflash my rom, reroot mydevice, reinstall xposed, etc.., so i think i will skip it.
But if i skip it, will i be notified for "Android 6" ?
Thanks
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Wrong section.
This OTA should be the stagefright fix., you will need this update to receive/install android 6. You have to be on the latest firmware to do so. But if you are rooted with custom recovery you will have to go back to stock anyway, so you can flash a firmware including this fix than.
Hi
This OTA should be the stagefright fix.,
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yes, it's what i read about it.
you will need this update to receive/install android 6. You have to be on the latest firmware to do so.
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Ok. So if i don't make this update, i won't be notified when the bigger "Android 6" update will be available.
But if you are rooted with custom recovery
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Yes i am rooted and i have TWRP custom recovery.
you will have to go back to stock anyway,
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I don't have backup of my stock rom before root.
Can i download it somewhere ?
so you can flash a firmware including this fix than.
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Yes it is a good advice You're talking about "stock" firmware ?
Anyway, to update my phone to this stagefright fix Android 5 OTA and when i will update to android 6 OTA, i will have to flash stock "unrooted" firmware, so i will lost all my apps and data.
With my olders phones i used cyanogen mod to have a "pure Android" with some tweaks, but with my Motorola Moto G 2, which is already "pure Android", i was happy to use "only" Xposed for just the tweaks i want. BUT, i didn't understood that i could'nt update Android whithout the hard process of reflashing stock, reroot, reinstall xposed, reinstall my apps.....
So i'm thinking to flash Cynaogen mod on my Moto G 2, but could you confirm :
-Future update, including big one's like CM 12 to CM 13 can be installed without having to reflash anything and so without lost data ?
-I can install xposed and modules on Cyanogen firmware if i need extra tweaks not included in CM ?
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yes, it's what i read about it.
Ok. So if i don't make this update, i won't be notified when the bigger "Android 6" update will be available.
Yes i am rooted and i have TWRP custom recovery.
I don't have backup of my stock rom before root.
Can i download it somewhere ?
Yes it is a good advice You're talking about "stock" firmware ?
Anyway, to update my phone to this stagefright fix Android 5 OTA and when i will update to android 6 OTA, i will have to flash stock "unrooted" firmware, so i will lost all my apps and data.
With my olders phones i used cyanogen mod to have a "pure Android" with some tweaks, but with my Motorola Moto G 2, which is already "pure Android", i was happy to use "only" Xposed for just the tweaks i want. BUT, i didn't understood that i could'nt update Android whithout the hard process of reflashing stock, reroot, reinstall xposed, reinstall my apps.....
So i'm thinking to flash Cynaogen mod on my Moto G 2, but could you confirm :
-Future update, including big one's like CM 12 to CM 13 can be installed without having to reflash anything and so without lost data ?
-I can install xposed and modules on Cyanogen firmware if i need extra tweaks not included in CM ?
Thanks
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Right, without this stagefrigth OTA you won´t be notified when further updates are available.
And yes, I´m talking about stock firmware. To receive OTA updates you´ll have to be on latest stock recovery/firmware and be unrooted.
You find all this things like firmwares http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/development/original-motorola-firmware-collection-t3153533, tutorials to flash them http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/general/restore-to-stock-t287365 or tools to do it automatically http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/development/tool-restore-to-stock-firmware-flasher-t3016236 and this really good one incl. stagefrightfix http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/general/official-stock-firmware-5-0-2-lxb22-46-t3019612 in this index:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/general/moto-g-2014-index-threads-t3033453 .
So you don´t need to have a nandroid backup to go back to stock.
But you will lose your apps and personal data of the internal memory, you can backup your apps with titanium but basically it´s the hard process.
Even if you use cyanogen mod you maybe can dirty flash the small updates, the step from cm12 to cm13 demands a clean flash and your data will be lost.
Xposed is working on all versions imho, rooted stock, cm or other custom roms. A lot of custom roms have a bunch of nice tweaks on board.
At the end of the day you have to options:
- Flash latest stock firmware and recovery (with the loss of your personal data) and wait for official motorola 6.0, then flash TWRP and root your device the recommended way. Flash/install your favorite tweaks and rootapps like xposed (There is a 6.0 OTA of the brazillian soaktest available, which works on XT1069 and XT1068 but I think that´s not what you are looking for).
- Choose one of the upcoming custom roms based on cm 13 sources which bring a lot of tweaks with it and can be used with xposed also. Some are already available but still have some bugs, you´ll have to decide if it´s worth to wait until everything is more stable (Your personal data will get lost also).
I´m on a custom rom and kernel and I will wait until my favorite rom will be availabe on 6.0 or another one will satisfy my needs as a daily driver.
Hope I could help you.
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Right, without this stagefrigth OTA you won´t be notified when further updates are available.
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Ok. So i can only be notified from web news..
And yes, I´m talking about stock firmware.
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Ok.
To receive OTA updates you´ll have to be on latest stock recovery/firmware and be unrooted.
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When you say "receives", you're talking about "notified AND able to install", because i've been notified for this OTA 22.56.3.en.03 update but i'm rooted.
You find all this things like firmwares http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto...ction-t3153533,
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Thanks for the link, i'm actually downloading the last stock firmware for my XT1068 : 5.0.2_LXB22.99-16_cid7_CFC.xml, it can be a good think to have it, even if i switch to CM..
tutorials to flash them http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto...-stock-t287365
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This link don't work, it send me to Tomtom topic.., but i can found it from index.
or tools to do it automatically http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto...asher-t3016236
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I download the exe and it seem that the link to stock firmware from this topic has more recent version, i'm downloading "XT1068_TITAN_NIIBR_DS_5.0.2_LXB22.99-16.3_cid12_CFC.xml" from there.
and this really good one incl. stagefrightfix http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto...22-46-t3019612
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I'm downloading it too.
in this index:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto...reads-t3033453 .
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Thanks XDA is so bigger that it isn't easy to find what i need.
In this index, there is a link to XT1068 stock firmware with these version for Lollipop :
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Is there some description i should be care of ? Which one is for my device ?
What does mean "cid7", "cid12" , "reza" ?
My device is french and double sim.
So you don´t need to have a nandroid backup to go back to stock.
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Yes, it is good to know that
But you will lose your apps and personal data of the internal memory, you can backup your apps with titanium but basically it´s the hard process.
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I make regular titanium backups but you're right, it will be a hard and long process
I have also "link2sd" which link a lot of my app data to my external sd card.., i don't know how titanium will restore all this kind of settings...
Even if you use cyanogen mod you maybe can dirty flash the small updates,
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"Maybe" ? "Dirty" ? So it isn't sure that with a custom rom like CM, things will be easier ?
the step from cm12 to cm13 demands a clean flash and your data will be lost.
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Xposed is working on all versions imho, rooted stock, cm or other custom roms. A lot of custom roms have a bunch of nice tweaks on board.
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Ok.
At the end of the day you have to options:
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- Flash latest stock firmware and recovery (with the loss of your personal data)
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I have to restore "stock" recovery too ?
and wait for official motorola 6.0, then flash TWRP and root your device the recommended way. Flash/install your favorite tweaks and rootapps like xposed
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Ok. I can also not make android 5 OTA updates and wait for official motorola 6 (by checking web news about that) and so flash it directly to Stock 6 ?
(There is a 6.0 OTA of the brazillian soaktest available, which works on XT1069 and XT1068 but I think that´s not what you are looking for).
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I'm french.
- Choose one of the upcoming custom roms based on cm 13 sources which bring a lot of tweaks with it and can be used with xposed also. Some are already available but still have some bugs, you´ll have to decide if it´s worth to wait until everything is more stable (Your personal data will get lost also).
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I would choose this option but if the "small updates : for instance from android 6 to android 6.." are not easier to do that whit rooted stock rom, i have no reason to switch to CM. I have all tweaks i want with xposed and 3 modules (gravity box, pbmc and APM+) but i just would to avoir to have to do a hard process each time there is an android update..
I´m on a custom rom and kernel and I will wait until my favorite rom will be availabe on 6.0 or another one will satisfy my needs as a daily driver.
Hope I could help you.
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Yes you help me a lot, but some thing are not clear : advantage/inconvenients between rooted xposed stock VS custom rom : about update process only..
Thanks a lot !
If you are on latest stock rom you will be notified on your XT1068, no matter if you are rooted or not. You won´t be able to install it when you are not on stock rom/recovery and with system changes like xposed.
About updating:
Most custom roms are cm or asop based, so there is no big difference between CM "official" and other custom roms.
In some cases you can dirty flash the small steps (6.0 to 6.0.1 or something like that) which means you have not to wipe your data etc.
A dirty flash is often possible but not recommended because you can have problems like fc´s afterwards or even worse softbrick your device.
In most cases you have to clean flash a new version which always means take the hard road. But I did this procedure very often now and it takes me one evening to set up my phone incl. installing apps, tweaks and so on.
If you chose a stock rom with xposed and your favorite modules the update process is similar to the one on a custom rom as far as wiping is necessary. But you have to do some more work.
You have to flash stock recovery again, full unroot the phone and revert the system changes you made, often the much safer way is flash back to an untouched stock rom which includes a stock recovery. The stock recovery can be extracted from the firmware and is always part of it. So if you flash stock the recovery will become stock too.
The advantage of a custom rom is not just the inbuilt tweaks, they are often more fluid and battery friendly than stock roms,they are mostly pre-rooted and xposed works on the most of them too.
The update process depends on the rom here, sometimes you can dirty flash the small steps, sometimes it always needs a clean flash.
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I've read all your explanations, thanks a lot, all is more clear for me now
If i try to resume, custom rom has these advantages against stock rom for the update process :
-No need to flash untouched stock rom before update.
-No need to reroot after update.
-No need to reflash custom recovery after update.
But both custom and stock rom has these inconvenients :
-Wipe necessary after updates. (sometimes littles updates can be did without wipe with custom roms).
So i think i prefer to choose custom rom, and i think that the best solution for me is to wait a CM 13 (android 6) stable release. Do you think it is a good solution ?
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nonobio said:
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I've read all your explanations, thanks a lot, all is more clear for me now
If i try to resume, custom rom has these advantages against stock rom for the update process :
-No need to flash untouched stock rom before update.
-No need to reroot after update.
-No need to reflash custom recovery after update.
But both custom and stock rom has these inconvenients :
-Wipe necessary after updates. (sometimes littles updates can be did without wipe with custom roms).
So i think i prefer to choose custom rom, and i think that the best solution for me is to wait a CM 13 (android 6) stable release. Do you think it is a good solution ?
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Yes, you I think you've got the essential infos.
Waiting for a stable cm13 release is a good choice, but keep your eyes open, even now there are some modified roms based on asop/cm13 that have less bugs and glitches like original cm, Nexus experience http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3143528 as one example or the very promising Viper rom and kernel.:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3261838 just to name two of a lot good projects here on xda.
In the meantime you can try a 5.1.1 rom like minimal os which is rock stable.
But it's your choice when and what you going to try. Sometimes it needs a bit of experimentation.
Good luck!
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Waiting for a stable cm13 release is a good choice, but keep your eyes open, even now there are some modified roms based on asop/cm13 that have less bugs and glitches like original cm, Nexus experience http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=3143528 as one example or the very promising Viper rom and kernel.:http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=3261838 just to name two of a lot good projects here on xda.
In the meantime you can try a 5.1.1 rom like minimal os which is rock stable.
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Thanks for these recommandations.
In this index, there is a link to XT1068 stock firmware with these version for Lollipop :
Is there some description i should be care of ? Which one is for my device ?
What does mean "cid7", "cid12" , "reza" ?
My device is french and double sim.
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Can you help me about this ?
But it's your choice when and what you going to try. Sometimes it needs a bit of experimentation.
Good luck!
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Thanks for these recommandations.
Can you help me about this ?
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As you are from france I suppose you have the european firmware on your XT1068 which is the one with "DSDSALL" in it´s name.
Please confirm that in your "about phone" settings (firmware version and build Nr) !
Just for your info: DE stands for germany,BR for brazil,GB for great britain and so on.
So if you are sure that you are on the european firmware the second firmware from above is the right for your phone: RETAILDSDSALL_XT1068_5.0.2_LXB22.99-16_cid7_CFC.xml.zip.
LXB22.99-16 is the latest 5.0.2 build.
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nonobio said:
If i try to resume, custom rom has these advantages against stock rom for the update process :
-No need to flash untouched stock rom before update.
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I think i'm wrong about this : i can directly flash an untouched stock rom that include the update, isn't ?
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I think i'm wrong about this : i can directly flash an untouched stock rom that include the update, isn't ?
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Yes, I think the stock firmware in the post above ( RETAILDSDSALL_XT1068_5.0.2_LXB22.99-16 ) has the latest update included. If not you should find one in the "easy stock installer" thread by @reefuge. ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/general/official-stock-firmware-5-0-2-lxb22-46-t3019612 )
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Hi,
I didn't made any flash since our last discussion and i'm always on Android 5.0.2 without stagefright fix. I will choose between CM13 (when it will be stable) and Stock MM when it will be official.
Meanwhile, i downloaded the update by mistake and it prompt me to install it every day. I can only report it but not fully cancel it.
Do you know how or where i can delete the downloaded file ?