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Any chance there'll be one done sans the bootloader? Btw, I'm referring to the DE model.
Tia,
Tx
Tx Redneck said:
Any chance there'll be one done sans the bootloader? Btw, I'm referring to the DE model.
Tia,
Tx
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can do it, just not with custom recovery brother
First off, Koff sumbish V.
Note that that's outta the way, *If the flashable zip(in twrp/cwm) will never happen, can one flash the stock recovery w/Flashify, accept the ota, then reflash twrp/cwm in Flashify?
Tx Redneck said:
First off, Koff sumbish V.
Note that that's outta the way, *If the flashable zip(in twrp/cwm) will never happen, can one flash the stock recovery w/Flashify, accept the ota, then reflash twrp/cwm in Flashify?
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yes sir
Yes, I doubt someone will go to the trouble of modding the OTA for a custom recovery when it would only be saving you a few minutes of flashing stock recovery, stock system, OTA, custom recovery, root. It is after all developer friendly.
Disregard.....
kbluhm said:
Yes, I doubt someone will go to the trouble of modding the OTA for a custom recovery when it would only be saving you a few minutes of flashing stock recovery, stock system, OTA, custom recovery, root. It is after all developer friendly.
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but it just makes common sense to do this since i'm having to figure out how to get stock recoveries for other variants. where is the sbfs?????
I, for one, would prefer to have a flashable zip to use via twrp. I've followed the instructions for restoring stock recovery, uninstalling xposed... But the ota still fails.
It shouldn't have to be this hard on a DEVELOPER device.
Tx Redneck said:
I, for one, would prefer to have a flashable zip to use via twrp. I've followed the instructions for restoring stock recovery, uninstalling xposed... But the ota still fails.
It shouldn't have to be this hard on a DEVELOPER device.
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Try flashing the stock system partition... might be something else on system that you missed.
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Man, I'm hitting a wall at every turn. I don't know why this is overly complicated on a "Dev" device.
Its not complicated. You need to be fully stock...no modifications for an ota. Or...wait for flashable files. (My choice usually)
If you want the ota and can't wait. The easiest thing to do...in my opinion ...is rsdlite to stock rom. Take ota. Reroot after. Simple. You will get your phone completely wiped tho.
Having a dev edition has no benefit for any of this. The ota is meant for stock...unrooted..."regular " customers.
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As someone who has a Dev edition I think it's never been easier. I have been on a 4.4.2 build for weeks now. Just fastboot flash and go. I didn't have to wait for flashable zips, with minor research I was able to easily do the work myself. That is the point if the Dev edition isn't it?
MotoX GSM Developer Edition, Bootloader Unlocked, Rooted, Stock 4.4.2 Great Britain on T-Mobile !
Something that isn't entirely clear to me, can you fxz to the 4.4 image AFTER you've taken the 4.4.2 OTA? (GSM DE) I'm curious because I when I go to sell the phone soon I want to return it to stock (sans locked BL).
unsivil_audio said:
Something that isn't entirely clear to me, can you fxz to the 4.4 image AFTER you've taken the 4.4.2 OTA? (GSM DE) I'm curious because I when I go to sell the phone soon I want to return it to stock (sans locked BL).
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No, its a one way upgrade
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Tx Redneck said:
Man, I'm hitting a wall at every turn. I don't know why this is overly complicated on a "Dev" device.
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Are you getting an error message? Have you frozen or deleted any System apps?
AGAIN, missing the point, i have the same doubt, i have the ota update of 4.4.2 claro chile, and i have the fastboot version post camera, there is no flashable firmware for that, only for 4.2.2 pre camera, so i want to manually do the flash of the ota....can this be done?
For some reason I can't find a sure answer or How-To on rooting 4.4.2 for my GSM DE on T-Mobile. Someone point me in the right direction. This 4.4.2 update popup is getting really annoying.
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overthatscreen said:
For some reason I can't find a sure answer or How-To on rooting 4.4.2 for my GSM DE on T-Mobile. Someone point me in the right direction. This 4.4.2 update popup is getting really annoying.
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Is your bootloader unlocked? If so I am sure it will only be a matter of time before someone updates the TWRP custom recovery for a Moto X on 4.4.2.
The only way to root 4.4.2 is off your phone's bootloader is unlocked or can be unlocked.
There is no root for locked bootloader
Here is the process for unlocked bootloader
Unlock your bootloader
Install custom recovery
Flash SuperSU flashable zip
And your done
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dray_jr said:
Install custom recovery
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But can you use the version of TWRP that is for 4.4? Or has it been updated for 4.4.2? Don't the custom recoveries need to be updated for the new versions of the OS?
The same version of twrp works for 4.4 and 4.4.2.
So essentially the same steps that I performed for Rooting 4.4 applies to 4.4.2 ? I thought something would have changed, but I'll take your word for it.
And is it safe to assume my bootloader should stay unlocked since I already went through the root process with 4.4?
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overthatscreen said:
So essentially the same steps that I performed for Rooting 4.4 applies to 4.4.2 ? I thought something would have changed, but I'll take your word for it.
And is it safe to assume my bootloader should stay unlocked since I already went through the root process with 4.4?
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Yes and Yes. I also have a GSM Dev Edition with an Unlocked Bootloader and the same root method worked and the bootloader remained unlocked.
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So essentially the same steps that I performed for Rooting 4.4 applies to 4.4.2 ?
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It is always the same if your bootloader is unlocked in that you flash custom recovery and install a superuser. The only thing that would change is if the custom recovery changes for the new version of the OS or if the super user is updated.
I just outlined it all here:
How To Root Your Unlocked Moto X Running Kit Kat
overthatscreen said:
And is it safe to assume my bootloader should stay unlocked since I already went through the root process with 4.4?
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Going through the root process has nothing to do with unlocking your bootloader. Once unlocked, your bootloader will stay unlocked until you relock it.
Sounds good. I'll just reflash back to stock and update then root.
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Well I just got done flashing with the Moto X Restore Utility, updated to 4.4.2, flashed TWRP, and rooted.
Aw well. I was going to contribute that if you were annoyed by the 4.4.2 OTA constantly in your face: you can disable the MotorolaOTA system service.
So here's the deal, I unlocked my T-Mobile Moto X bootloader through Motorola's website about a year ago or so. I also rooted and didn't bother updating afterwards to anything since I had everything working perfectly for me. Now I need to update my 4.2.2 Moto X to 4.4.3 (or really anything >=4.3 just so I can use my Moto 360 that'll be arriving soon).
My question is, with an unlocked bootloader, rooted, TWRP 2.6.3.1, Xposed-installed Moto X, can I go ahead and flash a stock 4.4.3 ROM (for example from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development/rom-stock-flashable-t-mobile-t2773675) and just call it a day?
I've been reading past threads and stuff to get back into the loop, but I just can'f find anything to answer me the simple question of updating an unlocked+rooted 4.2.2->4.4+ while keeping root. Just the simple question of, if I get a stock 4.4 image and flash it on my phone, will everything be okay?
I no longer have the passion and interest to constantly be fiddling with kernels, ROMs, and little hacks with my phone like I used to with my OG Droid and, to a lesser extent, with my Galaxy Nexus (plus I feel like it's gotten significantly less easy since those OG days).
I know (i.e. 90% sure) that one way to do what I want (kinda) is RSDLite/manually go back to stock without root on 4.2.2 and then accept the OTA, but certainly it has to be easier than that right? What happened to the days where I can just find a new Gingerbread ROM for my Froyo Droid and just flash it right then and there? Now everything is "go back to stock and do these convoluted steps."
(I'm sorry I'm ranting, I'm just really tired at the moment haha)
Thank you all, hopefully, for the help!
If you don't care about retaining your data, grab the 4.4.3 fxz and unzip it. Follow the directions for returning back to stock here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/ref-complete-moto-x-guides-information-t2603358 but replace the files to be flashed with the files from the 4.4.3 fxz. Not sure where you got the idea that you need to go back to stock. Word of caution, once on 4.4.3 there's no going back to an older version.
I have the same question as the OP, on unlocked rooted 4.2.2 ATT Moto X, can i flash a custom 4.4.4 and keep root?
RGNDI said:
I have the same question as the OP, on unlocked rooted 4.2.2 ATT Moto X, can i flash a custom 4.4.4 and keep root?
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You can take the ota but you need the stock recovery. Since you are unlocked you will not lose your unlocked-ness(lol) if you take an ota. But you do need to be completely stock: no su, no custom recovery, etc etc. But once you upgrade to 4.4.3 getting root back is as simple as flashing the appropriate version recovery again and then flashing supersu.
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You can take the ota but you need the stock recovery. Since you are unlocked you will not lose your unlocked-ness(lol) if you take an ota. But you do need to be completely stock: no su, no custom recovery, etc etc. But once you upgrade to 4.4.3 getting root back is as simple as flashing the appropriate vision recovery again and then flashing supersu.
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OK thanks, but cant I just Flash a Rooted Stock 4.4.4 over 4.2.2? Thats a more to the point question
RGNDI said:
OK thanks, but cant I just Flash a Rooted Stock 4.4.4 over 4.2.2? Thats a more to the point question
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Yeah that would work as long as your radio is compatible with the rom. The rom you shared earlier should be fine. Just don't downgrade to anything pre 4.4 as that can cause issues because of partition sizes (or so I've heard). But after that I wouldn't take any OTA's cause your bootloader would be incompatible with the OTA and possibly cause a brick. If I were you I'd revert to stock and take the long way to 4.4.3 just so I can get the OTA for when Android L comes out. In fact thats what I plan on doing if the Sunshine bootloader unlock is successful. But if you don't care about that then everything should be fine.
Hello all,
I am on a stock rooted 4.4 rom (verizon). I just used the Sunshine bootloader unlock and I'm curious about the best way to get to 4.4.4.
Should I:
a. Revert back to JB and just take all the OTAs?
b. Or is there a way to just flash 4.4.4 with a custom recovery?
Another question is that once I get to 4.4.4, the unlocked bootloader will still be there and I can put a custom recovery and just flash SuperSU right?
The final question is do I even want to update from 4.4 to 4.4.4, nothing really changed right? Would you do it or just wait for Android L?
Thanks!
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I am on a stock rooted 4.4 rom (verizon). I just used the Sunshine bootloader unlock and I'm curious about the best way to get to 4.4.4.
Should I:
a. Revert back to JB and just take all the OTAs?
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No. First I would make a nandroid of your stock rooted 4.4.
Then, if you want to keep your data, flash the 4.4 stock recovery and unroot. You said you are on a stock system, but make sure you disable the Xposed installer (not just install it but disable it) if you installed it and revert any changes to your system that you made including unfreezing any apps before you take any OTAs.
Once you have done all of that, I would just let the OTAs do the rest.
If you don't want to keep your data, you can flash the 4.4.4 sbf using RSDLite.
streetlightman said:
The final question is do I even want to update from 4.4 to 4.4.4, nothing really changed right?
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A lot changed including the camera improvements.
Wansanta said:
No. First I would make a nandroid of your stock rooted 4.4.
Then, if you want to keep your data, flash the 4.4 stock recovery and unroot. You said you are on a stock system, but make sure you disable the Xposed installer (not just install it but disable it) if you installed it and revert any changes to your system that you made including unfreezing any apps before you take any OTAs.
Once you have done all of that, I would just let the OTAs do the rest.
If you don't want to keep your data, you can flash the 4.4.4 sbf using RSDLite.
A lot changed including the camera improvements.
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Thanks for the reply. I don't care too much about my data so I wouldn't mind SBfing back to JB. The reason I'd rather do that is because i can't remember what apps I froze (deleted) and I removed the updater APK so it wouldn't annoy me. Would reverting back to JB affect the unlocked bootloader? It shouldn't right?
streetlightman said:
Thanks for the reply. I don't care too much about my data so I wouldn't mind SBfing back to JB. The reason I'd rather do that is because i can't remember what apps I froze (deleted) and I removed the updater APK so it wouldn't annoy me. Would reverting back to JB affect the unlocked bootloader? It shouldn't right?
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What is the point of downgrading to jelly bean?
If you froze apps, they will show up in titanium backup as frozen. If you deleted system apps, you are not stock. So what you are running is a rooted 4.4 that is not stock b/c you deleted system apps. You can flash 4.4.4 without having to remember the changes you made. Then you can flash TWRP and reroot using SuperSU.
You can't downgrade anyways. Unless you want a paperweight. Not even sbfing will do it. Sorry brother. I'm only telling you this for your own good. Please listen.
Download the 4.4.4 sbf, unzip it, flash the contents in bootloader. You can find a guide in the General subforum.
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You can't downgrade anyways. Unless you want a paperweight. Not even sbfing will do it. Sorry brother. I'm only telling you this for your own good. Please listen.
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Depends on what you are trying to downgrade.
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Depends on what you are trying to downgrade.
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So your saying... That I have a vzw Dev ed moto x. 4.4.4. I can take it and downgrade it to 4.4.2 and then flash the gsm 4.4.2? I just use it on WiFi only anyways. Cause I'm trying to get the stock moto x firmware with no carrier bloatware. Right now the vzw has 9 bloatware apps. I have the att 4.4.4 ROM right now with only 4 bloatware apps. I want no bloatware WITHOUT using tb and others
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So your saying... That I have a vzw Dev ed moto x. 4.4.4. I can take it and downgrade it to 4.4.2
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Yes, you can downgrade to the 4.4.2 system. If you try to flash the 4.4.2 bootloader or partition table, it will fail. But you can downgrade to the 4.4.2 system. Once upgraded the bootloader and partition table are not downgradeable but if you try to flash them you will get a failure, not a brick. As long as you have an unlocked bootloader and can get to bootloader mode, you don't have a brick.
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and then flash the gsm 4.4.2?
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I don't know anything about trying to flash the XT1053 system to a XT1060 device.
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Cause I'm trying to get the stock moto x firmware with no carrier bloatware. Right now the vzw has 9 bloatware apps.
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I just remove those via Titanium Backup. Which ones do you want removed and I can tell you if I have removed them and what happened when I did.
You only need the TiBU PRO key if you are freezing apps, not removing apps.
Well like I said I have att moto x rom on a vzw moto x. I just want the straight plain ROM with no tinkering
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Well like I said I have att moto x rom on a vzw moto x. I just want the straight plain ROM with no tinkering
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The att system has carrier bloat, too. Do you mean the XT1053 - Tmobile/unlocked GSM system?
Yeah. I'm waiting on an sbf/fxz for it. Unless you've found it?
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Yeah. I'm waiting on an sbf/fxz for it. Unless you've found it?
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The latest official sbf for the XT1053 is 4.4.3 unless someone made an unofficial fxz for it.
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
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Yeah. I'm waiting on an sbf/fxz for it. Unless you've found it?
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A lot of talk lately about downgrading being ok on 4.4.2 or higher.....and well there can be a very particular way to do it, without downgrading the bootloader....there are many ways to make a mistake and end up with a brick. This warning seems to be missing from some of the downgrade talk I've been seeing around.
The veterans of this device and XDA will always flat out say no....You can't downgrade. Why? Because if we try to guide anyone through downgrading, or advise them they can.....mistakes happen, and we don't want to be partially responsible for anyone destroying their device.
So, best (aka safest) advice, is to wait for the files you need. Then flash them fairly risk free.
Or try to downgrade.....but know the risks. ?
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If anyone disagrees.....ask these people how downgrading went for them...
https://www.google.ca/search?redir_...ed+xda+site:forum.xda-developers.com&hl=en-US
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I'm running 4.4.2 unlocked bootloader . I was able to root using TWRP
I love the stock system so i dont care for a custom rom atm, i only wanna keep root.
If i do the ota 4.4.4 update will i keep root? Or if i lose it, can i just install via TWRP again?
jonortiz said:
I'm running 4.4.2 unlocked bootloader . I was able to root using TWRP
I love the stock system so i dont care for a custom rom atm, i only wanna keep root.
If i do the ota 4.4.4 update will i keep root?
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You have to return to the stock recovery to take the OTA. If you are not totally stock system, you have to return the system to stock. Totally stock means no Xposed framework, no tethering mods, no changes to the system at all.
jonortiz said:
Or if i lose it, can i just install via TWRP again?
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Yes of course - TWRP and SuperSU or whatever other Superuser you use.
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Wansanta said:
You have to return to the stock recovery to take the OTA. If you are not totally stock system, you have to return the system to stock. Totally stock means no Xposed framework, no tethering mods, no changes to the system at all.
Yes of course - TWRP and SuperSU or whatever other Superuser you use.
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could you link me to a way to return to stock recovery?
jonortiz said:
could you link me to a way to return to stock recovery?
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Its in one of the stickies either here or on general how to return to stock to take an OTA.
Basically, you get the 4.4.2 sbf for Verizon Moto X. Then you unzip it and use mfastboot to flash recovery.img. But the site with the sbf's has been down alot lately. You may be able to use regular fastboot to flash recovery. I think you only need mfastboot to flash the system.img.
Be sure and make a nandroid before you flash the stock recovery!
Can just use the 4.4.4 fxz in general. Less steps, forgets about OTA...
Then just flash recovery and root. Back to gold
tapa'd on my moto x
chrisp6825 said:
Can just use the 4.4.4 fxz in general. Less steps, forgets about OTA...
Then just flash recovery and root. Back to gold
tapa'd on my moto x
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Do this it's super simple
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rocketsaucev2 said:
Do this it's super simple
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While the 4.4.4 sbf is available for Verizon, it is not available for ATT or TMobile. For sprint, there is an unofficial one.
Wansanta said:
While the 4.4.4 sbf is available for Verizon, it is not available for ATT or TMobile. For sprint, there is an unofficial one.
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The OP is on Verizon. This thread isn't about the other carriers. ?
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The OP is on Verizon. This thread isn't about the other carriers. ?
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I see that now that you mentioned it. The new layout is truncating the thread titles on me. I really don't like the new layout for reasons like that, but I suppose someone must like it or they wouldn't have changed it.