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Is this a good price for this tablet gently used? Not sure what the market rate is.
i guess its a good price. get it.
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Is this a good price for this tablet gently used? Not sure what the market rate is.
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so long as it isnt the wifi only version, I would say go for it.
make sure it isnt model P1010.It has inferior hardware compared to the original
AT&T dumped a bunch of refurbs on their site on Friday for $199.99 with no contract. I think if you're in the US you'll see a bunch of them pop up on Ebay shortly. First reviews of the received models are they look like they're brand new.
I would also consider things like exchange and warranty. Maybe it's worth the extra coin to you to know that if you have any issues with it you can exchange it or get it serviced under warranty?
With Gingerbread out now i would say yes get one as long as it is the GSM version and not a wifi version.
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With Gingerbread out now i would say yes get one as long as it is the GSM version and not a wifi version.
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Well I finally jumped on it. Its the cdma version from sprint. Why does that really matter, custom roms and such? I'm using wifi only. I love this thing.
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Because with the gingerbread rom browsing the web is way faster. It's another level. Not frustrating anymore when there are many flash animations. There's no lag at all with flash videos even in 720p.
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aibo said:
Because with the gingerbread rom browsing the web is way faster. It's another level. Not frustrating anymore when there are many flash animations. There's no lag at all with flash videos even in 720p.
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Not available on cdma, I assume?
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I jumped ahead and bought it for $250 + taxes. It is great but I'm contemplating whether to return it or not. It's the 3G at&t edition. My concern is that its not dual core and at&t and t-mob are just dumping these out to make the 10.1 model ready for release. I have no issues with its performance but its just that it's not dual core and I forsee lag in upcoming applications. Anyone has any thoughts on this?
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I jumped ahead and bought it for $250 + taxes. It is great but I'm contemplating whether to return it or not. It's the 3G at&t edition. My concern is that its not dual core and at&t and t-mob are just dumping these out to make the 10.1 model ready for release. I have no issues with its performance but its just that it's not dual core and I forsee lag in upcoming applications. Anyone has any thoughts on this?
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Cant be beat for the price
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Hey guys im just wondering y europe always get phone realeses and updates before we do does it depends on the carries or the brand
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Hey guys im just wondering y europe always get phone realeses and updates before we do does it depends on the carries or the brand
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It as alot to do with it. Our carriers have alot more control over what is put on the phone. Plus most of the OEM are Europe based with a much larger market area. This has always been the case and always will be. Main reason I no longer by US based phones. I am willing to pay more for the phone for better updates. Hell the euro version of the phones sometimes gets updates the US version never sees
How do you get the euro phones?
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How do you get the euro phones?
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Order them at full price from different sites. On the for mobile solutions is a good one as others. It does take a little bit more research to make sure you get a device that works on your data bands. Like att. I can order a phone from Telstra in Australia and it will work on my 3G network. Yes it is more expencive but it bypasses alot of things. Mainly now with the government adding the chip to our phones for them to send texts directly to our phones with no way to prevent it or turn it off.
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Hey guys im just wondering y europe always get phone realeses and updates before we do does it depends on the carries or the brand
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Because there is just too much carrier politics in USA. And, of course, they are willing to pay everyone to STFU and/or GTFO.
AT&T Notes get theirs tomorrow. Hopefully we get ours too/soon, maybe like the S2 did.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/02/att-galaxy-note-jellybean/
... Alternately some one can make a kang for our T879's
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It is all ready out for the att version so one can only assume that the Tmobile version will be really soon
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It is all ready out for the att version so one can only assume that the Tmobile version will be really soon
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That's making a big assumption. T-Mobile may not even be thinking about JB for our phones. After all, they didn't sell very many of them to begin with. They may be focusing on getting updates out to their more popular phones (GSIII and Note II).
I would love to see JB from T-Mo, but i'm not holding my breath. Plus, with CM10 and Carbon ROM already at 4.2.2, it's not like we don't have decent JB options.
I would love to try a touchwiz based jb ROM though. But that means I would have to go back to stock unless ptmr wants to update his Jedi leader ROM if we even get jb... I don't see that happening though
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S suite / touch wiz and wifi calling is what I miss on CM.
The closest thing I can suggest would be to flash the at&t version but use the "blaze" modem. If you do go this route make sure that the one that you flash is prerooted that way you can remove the at&t bloatware. Now you will loose the WiFi calling until someone can go through both two versions to find where the "WiFi calling" is located
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Actually there are about 20k of this model in the wild. T Mobile made a deal with Samsung in order to get a jump on the Galaxy 4 they literally bought enough of this model to fill a warehouse. T Mobile then turned around and contracted their sales out to places like Costco and Wal-Mart where they are still being sold at a discounted price.
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I wouldn't mind flashing the AT&T JB if it will fly - just to see what the feel is like.
I am quite dependent on WIFI calling, but I can always reflash the original and reload my apps I guess.
if anyone has already done this: if there are kinks, could you please post back?
If it does one out I would like to see what is different because from what I understand the Canada version has the pop out browser which the att version doesn't meanwhile both are missing the nav panel and multi Window
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I wouldn't mind flashing the AT&T JB if it will fly - just to see what the feel is like.
I am quite dependent on WIFI calling, but I can always reflash the original and reload my apps I guess.
if anyone has already done this: if there are kinks, could you please post back?
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I have a t879 and a i717. AT&T JB will not boot on the t879 even with different radios even tried a NANDROID Backup from my i171
Huh...... How odd.....
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S suite / touch wiz and wifi calling is what I miss on CM.
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Wifi Calling is the only one I miss with CM based AvatarROM. The S Suite are just something there that I used 10% of the time. And I hated touchwiz. It makes my phone sllloooowwww and buggy. I'm loving my ROM now its fast, although not as smooth but still very stable.
I agree with that statement and I have wondered is there a way to compare the touchwiz from the att room and the touchwiz from tmobile to find the difference? I would be more than happy to wade through the code myself is someone could point me into the proper direction.....
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just reading around the web, the JB release I think is inevitable. i717, s3 and s2 are out, the international version N7000 is out in some parts of the world [not all], so, its just t-mo that is slow at this point. could be any day, any hour.
then we'll all figure out what we hate about it and resume complaining....
Good point......
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I'm frankly on the fence here - reading through the AT&T version group's collective notes - I dunno what the gain is with JB.
that its new? there are a number of folks that have had troubles [this is not unusual - check google for any sort of notes on 'upgrade to jelly bean'] - shorter battery life, jerky performance, hangs, lags.
I am VERY happy with the stock/rooted/debloated performance I'm getting.
we just picked up a GS3. I was set to be dazzled by its performance etc and spent hours getting it nuked to the bone, then installing, rooting, debloating. To me, its not worth the extra money compared to what I paid for the note 1. there is neglible performance difference [i'm not gaming, so take that into consideration]. side by side, any fool on earth would pick the Note's display, not just because its bigger but it looks startlingly gorgeous next to the GS3. The GS3 had a bunch of wifi connectivity issues. I don't know if I have them all squashed yet or not - jury is still out.
there's more "interference ware" on the GS3 - things that are scanning in the background to tell you all sorts of dangers are lurking. some I could uninstall safely, some not. the Note, the way I have it config'd, is 'quiet' by comparison.
battery life looks like the Note wins so far. will know better once the GS3 is finalized and real use occurs a lot.
if it were strictly my call, I'd trade the 3 for another note 1.
jellybeans or not.... i prefer beefsteak.
What about beefsteak flavored jellybeans?
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Maybe
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That's making a big assumption. T-Mobile may not even be thinking about JB for our phones. After all, they didn't sell very many of them to begin with. They may be focusing on getting updates out to their more popular phones (GSIII and Note II).
I would love to see JB from T-Mo, but i'm not holding my breath. Plus, with CM10 and Carbon ROM already at 4.2.2, it's not like we don't have decent JB options.
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Thats true but we will always have problems until they release the official JB, we all suffer from the random reboots followed by the blue screen when running these roms....Im using rooted stock, that way I know everything works instead of finding out when I need to use a feature.
In the official capacity we are now last. Right on schedule VZW.
I bet just to troll us, they announce it tomorrow but the release will be at the end of the month :laugh:
Not sure why everyone is all fired up about it. Not like 4.4 is much different than 4.2
They didn't even give us art.
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Not sure why everyone is all fired up about it. Not like 4.4 is much different than 4.2
They didn't even give us art.
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Art isn't even ready for prime time .... it's about all the under the hood stuff kit kat brings.
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Art isn't even ready for prime time .... it's about all the under the hood stuff kit kat brings.
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Such as? Maybe I'm ignorant and the signs are right in front of me, but I haven't seen anything that makes me excited to receive it.
I'm aware once the radio sources are dropped and they are put to work a bit then the sod and random reboot issues should be taken care of, but that's about all I've seen being said.
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Not sure why everyone is all fired up about it. Not like 4.4 is much different than 4.2
They didn't even give us art.
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Have you ran the "leaked" VZW KK build?
Kitkat is a whole different world,Completely Night and Day. Amazingly smooth, its lightening fast and extremely stable.
Art or not, this is a legitimate huge performance step forward.
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Have you ran the "leaked" VZW KK build?
Kitkat is a whole different world,Completely Night and Day. Amazingly smooth, its lightening fast and extremely stable.
Art or not, this is a legitimate huge performance step forward.
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Nah, I haven't played around with it yet. Honestly Ive never had any issues with the stock speed. Once animations are turned off.
Guess its one of those gotta try it to understand it thing. Coming from my last phone being the first gen droid RAZR, I've never sat back and wished my g2 had more speed.
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Nah, I haven't played around with it yet. Honestly Ive never had any issues with the stock speed. Once animations are turned off.
Guess its one of those gotta try it to understand it thing. Coming from my last phone being the first gen droid RAZR, I've never sat back and wished my g2 had more speed.
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its alot nicer for animations, snappier, the whole kitkat look to the notification bar, fine tuning under the hood, tap and pay, cloud printing. give it a go
We probably won't see an update till after the g3 and s5 are released.
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I suspected qtr1 was out of the picture when the drop date of the m8 was announced. Vzw doesn't like to have anything current impede the new baby.
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Yeah I said that on another site and someone said updates don't affect phone sales... when the average consumer doesn't know of updates and Verizon and OEMs market "latest android software" many people will want it.
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HTC one Max on verizon got updated and yet we're still waiting. :banghead:
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It's so......awesome that the phone that was never displayed in a store gets the latest update. How can anyone want the g3 when LG cares little to get phones updated.
Htc obviously did something to convince VZW to update their stuff yet the g flex is rocking 4.2.2 and the same with ours.
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It's so......awesome that the phone that was never displayed in a store gets the latest update. How can anyone want the g3 when LG cares little to get phones updated.
Htc obviously did something to convince VZW to update their stuff yet the g flex is rocking 4.2.2 and the same with ours.
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I don't think it's LG in this instance. I think it's Verizon, and I think it has more to do with the m8 launch than it does with whether or not the update is ready. They don't like to have anything mess with the new revenue stream.
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I don't think it's LG in this instance. I think it's Verizon, and I think it has more to do with the m8 launch than it does with whether or not the update is ready. They don't like to have anything mess with the new revenue stream.
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Agreed... Think about it: would the company make more money by keeping everyone's android system slick and up-to-date, or by enticing those with outdated devices to pine over the newest phone, with the NEWEST OS? Having worked customer service for a VZW contractor in the past, I personally know that making their customers happy (with no direct profit) is at the bottom of their list.
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Such as? Maybe I'm ignorant and the signs are right in front of me, but I haven't seen anything that makes me excited to receive it.
I'm aware once the radio sources are dropped and they are put to work a bit then the sod and random reboot issues should be taken care of, but that's about all I've seen being said.
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Not sure why everyone is all fired up about it. Not like 4.4 is much different than 4.2
They didn't even give us art.
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Bluetooth LTE will be nice to have. I've been waiting for it so I can connect to my Garmin watch and do live tracking. I need at least Android 4.3 to do this. (which VZW skipped )
I can't believe Verizon still hasn't pushed 4.4 update,this is ridiculous :banghead:
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I've given up hope. Its the usual state of mind one arrives at when dealing with VZW. You go though denial, anger and rage (quite a lot of rage) before reaching acceptance
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I've given up hope. Its the usual state of mind one arrives at when dealing with VZW. You go though denial, anger and rage (quite a lot of rage) before reaching acceptance
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You are not far off the mark. It is also possible that they are not going to update the phone to 4.4.2. Just because LG stated they would be for all variants does not mean Verizon will do it. I came from an LG revolution which at point LG said would get ICS, needless to say that phone is still only running 2.3.6. We guessed that VZW cancelled the update. LG support stated that it was working on a upgrade and that it was in testing and then nothing...
I hope I am not reliving things again. If I am, at least the base phone and stock OS are really good.
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You are not far off the mark. It is also possible that they are not going to update the phone to 4.4.2. Just because LG stated they would be for all variants does not mean Verizon will do it. I came from an LG revolution which at point LG said would get ICS, needless to say that phone is still only running 2.3.6. We guessed that VZW cancelled the update. LG support stated that it was working on a upgrade and that it was in testing and then nothing...
I hope I am not reliving things again. If I am, at least the base phone and stock OS are really good.
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I don't think so because there's already a stock leak build that works 100 percent. I think they're just waiting and they're gonna merge the knock code in and release it as one build rather than releasing 2 separate ones
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Seems like there is an update scheduled for our phone's in the coming weeks...
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Neat
I'll believe it when the update hits my phone.
Doesn't matter to me. I just want to know what difference will it really make? Is this an update just to keep the users happy and make them feel like HTC got their back?
I'm not knocking them or anything, because I certainly don't see myself choosing another manufacturer any time soon...but why claim that 4.4.4 changes were baked into 4.4.3, then give it to use anyway?
5.0 is more worth the wait than that 4.4.4
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It will probably address some of the issues some users were experiencing with wifi calling and gps.
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It will probably address some of the issues some users were experiencing with wifi calling and gps.
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I hope so!
(of course this will only matter if I have a device on which to enjoy it)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2695706
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Sprint is not supported
I just found it and was wondering to get some clarification on the same thing
neno2323 said:
I just found it and was wondering to get some clarification on the same thing
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Sprint is not listed in the Supported Devices section.
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Sprint is not listed in the Supported Devices section.
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We need to wait for a Sprint OTA.
Exactly,
Everyone its the firmware we need and also i can only speak for myself but i want a new radio too! the int rom is nice to have those new features but without the updated firmware and radios it really makes it not worth it.
I am sure the OTA will be here any day now. Fingers crossed
Cheers
M8 regions that have already been updated are seeing improvements and expansion of the ability of this camera. The MEGA thread is reporting improvements.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55983617
Mo says all carriers will be updated before 11/7.
Check out @moversi's Tweet: https://twitter.com/moversi/status/520758045576814592?s=09
Looks like Verizon is getting the 4.4.4 tomorrow shouldn't be much longer.
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Looks like Verizon is getting the 4.4.4 tomorrow shouldn't be much longer.
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Wow, Verizon actually beating Sprint to an update. Somethings wrong!
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Wow, Verizon actually beating Sprint to an update. Somethings wrong!
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Must be that WiFi Calling fix slowing down the update.
Ah yes, that's probably it. Forgot about that since I stopped using it.
First time for everything....[emoji1]