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fake what ?
simple.. go to jwelery shop. hehe
what he mean is original or dublicate
i think he means a cheapo copy
as it won't belong before they have them comming from china
knowing the chinnese they have already copyed it
liamhere said:
as it won't belong before they have them comming from china
knowing the chinnese they have already copyed it
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there is a chance that the'll do it even better from the original!
If they are anything like the iPhone copies I wouldnt hold me breath! Its bound to happen tho!
what about registering at htc e-club... ?
or do you mean before buying the device?
Looks like they mean BEFORE purchasing the device.
Eg how do you know the device is fake?
From what ive seen of the iPhone fakes they are pretty obvious but ive yet to see a copy of the Diamond. The iPhone fakes looked kinda ok, but the software on them wasnt very good at all. (check YouTube for some examples!)
I guess it would be obvious from where you purchased it from eg eBay (thats where they usually are for sale!)
its been done.
http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/16/keepin-it-real-fake-part-cxxv-touch-diamond-gets-aped-sans-lu/
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CECT-DIAMOND-...yZ138480QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
it is simple look for HTC logo between screen and buttons ... this copy obviously doesn`t have it and thinking about it they can`t put it there because then it would be crime and they could be prosecuted for it ...
Even the box is styled like the Diamonds with -"CECT Smart Mobility" on it! (not high quality plastic like the original Diamonds box, hehe!) They have even left the HTC logo on the phone on the box artwork!
Cheeky fellows!
aragornol said:
it is simple look for HTC logo between screen and buttons ... this copy obviously doesn`t have it and thinking about it they can`t put it there because then it would be crime and they could be prosecuted for it ...
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The problem is when they put pictures of the real Diamond and then send you one of those fakes Anyway just avoid ebaying expensive items to sellers with less than 1000 votes and you should be confident that they are selling what they are showing on the pics.
yep ensure for buyers protection and you won`t have a problem at all ... you can always contact e-bay about buying fake item
aragornol said:
yep ensure for buyers protection and you won`t have a problem at all ... you can always contact e-bay about buying fake item
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They learned their leason with loius vuitton.
He's using an htc image to sell the fake diamond J6. I reported that guy to ebay.
i hate faked hardware
here you will find some fakes....
www.eemobi.cn
http://www.solomobi.com/viewproduct.asp?pro_id=1661
Chinese Fakes
To make matters worse, the copies have dual sim capabilities and micro sd expansion!! Clever Chinese.
Is there Windows Media installed on the clones?
Token42 said:
Is there Windows Media installed on the clones?
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I don't think they have windows mobile installed.
So... disappointed result...
I found my one has dead-pixel.
A green pixel on screen, when its background colour is 'black'
I need to ask my retailer for replace new one. Oh god...
How do I do?
(Sorry for title, It is 'STUCK Pixel' not 'dead pixel')
I dont know what the policy is in South Korea but in the UK it gets messy
Basically vendors say it is OK to have dead pixels as long as it does not exceed X amount - X being I think 5
As the unit is very new, the best solution in the UK would be to reject the item under distant selling regulations (which you get 7 days) and NOT reject on the fact it is faulty.
If you do faulty, it could get rejected as a claim as 1 DP is considered fine...also it could if they wanted to, get repaired and not replaced
akash_84 said:
I dont know what the policy is in South Korea but in the UK it gets messy
Basically vendors say it is OK to have dead pixels as long as it does not exceed X amount - X being I think 5
As the unit is very new, the best solution in the UK would be to reject the item under distant selling regulations (which you get 7 days) and NOT reject on the fact it is faulty.
If you do faulty, it could get rejected as a claim as 1 DP is considered fine...also it could if they wanted to, get repaired and not replaced
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Thanks. Actually, In Korea, dead-pixel is quite serious claim from users.
I am going to report this fault to retailer and send back it ASAP. I wish to get new device.
By the Way, If I replace new one, I am afraid I might wait another a month for TD2.
Oh my god...
Apologies if I get your location incorrect...I saw the flag being South Korea but then just noticed your location being Oxford - UK
Well again if UK... I know most vendors are still showing 10 odd in stock ... where is yours from?
akash_84 said:
Apologies if I get your location incorrect...I saw the flag being South Korea but then just noticed your location being Oxford - UK
Well again if UK... I know most vendors are still showing 10 odd in stock ... where is yours from?
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MY retailer is Mobilephonedirect.
Today customer centre is closed so I send e-mail to them and looking forward to receiving reply.
By the way, If the suggest for fixing, is it reasonable idea? Well... I am not sure.
Sad to hear this dude...
There was a program, that tries to fix dead pixels.. I googled it and I think it was this one:
http://www.jscreenfix.com/faq/17-how-do-i-run-the-jscreenfixmidlet
I hope it helps.
d3sm0nd said:
Sad to hear this dude...
There was a program, that tries to fix dead pixels.. I googled it and I think it was this one:
http://www.jscreenfix.com/faq/17-how-do-i-run-the-jscreenfixmidlet
I hope it helps.
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Thanks for your reply.
Firstly, I wait for retailer's reply and than will try use this program.
jscreenfix may work if it a stuck pixels (changes the RGB of each pixel fast to jog it to work) if not you can us UK long distance (Internet) selling legislation to return the device (change mind and dont want) in think 14 days or if bought on contract you still have the same protection
What are the first 3 letters of you serial number should determine the HTC country of manufacture
HTC_GLOW said:
jscreenfix may work if it a stuck pixels (changes the RGB of each pixel fast to jog it to work) if not you can us UK long distance (Internet) selling legislation to return the device (change mind and dont want) in think 14 days or if bought on contract you still have the same protection
What are the first 3 letters of you serial number should determine the HTC country of manufacture
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Thanks
Firstly, I apology term of confusion.
It is 'stuck pixels' (My fault is 'a green' pixel on 'black' background).
By the way, I try run jscreenfix but the symptom is still going.
I am just looking for reply from retailer (Mobilephonesdirect).
Finally, My first 3digit of S/N is 'HT9'.
Looks like there is more then one thread on this topic.......See
HTC Builds most handsets in Taiwan (SN starts HT) or china the Taiwan models are usually more refined in manufacture and component quality. with previous touch models "Touch" "Touch Dual" this was very clear when the handsets are placed together with the Chinese made having a very poor screen, HTC also has a habit of tighter quality control on its network commission handsets (Network branded usually better standard) because of higher costs for return passed on from service provider
How can you see a single pixel between 384000 (800x480) of them ??
So whats the matter about one single tiny little dot that you never see?!
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How can you see a single pixel between 384000 (800x480) of them ??
So whats the matter about one single tiny little dot that you never see?!
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Ok.. I can find 'A tiny GREEN DOT' on 'Black' background.
Most Background colour of Touch Diamond2 is black and it is quite uncomfortable for me.
livej said:
Ok.. I can find 'A tiny GREEN DOT' on 'Black' background.
Most Background colour of Touch Diamond2 is black and it is quite uncomfortable for me.
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I have agree with livej even a single pixel can make the device very uncomfortable had 2 stuck on my old skool HTC Polaris
rogeriopcf said:
How can you see a single pixel between 384000 (800x480) of them ??
So whats the matter about one single tiny little dot that you never see?!
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Many peaple can see a single dead/stuck pixel on a 1080P HDTV up to feet away. Mybe you should ceck your eyesight I would be pissed too if my phone had one (or more)
I guess you are unlucky if the retailer refuses to replace your phone . . . carriers would replace it on the spot for dead pixels, like with the Fuze.
adeltaY said:
I guess you are unlucky if the retailer refuses to replace your phone . . . carriers would replace it on the spot for dead pixels, like with the Fuze.
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Thanks for your reply.
Firstly, I have right to return until next Saturday so within a week I ask to retailer at the least to replace or fix LCD.
(The best solution is to replace new phone but it might be too hard)
I am afraid how do I do at tomorrow.
I think you should phone them and talk it over, it might be easier to get them to replace it over the phone.
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I think you should phone them and talk it over, it might be easier to get them to replace it over the phone.
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Thanks. Already, I called to retailer but Customer Centre was closed. Instead of, I sent e-mail to them.
Firstly, I wait reply from them.
Oh.... It is so challenge for me.
I've got reply from retailer (Mobilephonesdirect) and they allow to return my TD2.
After inspection, they will send back it (or new one) to me.
I wish it should be new one.
Oh... My waiting is extended...
Hey guys,
I am thinking to get a Z1, I am not living in the US (I live in Hong Kong) and here're my options:
- Asia Version (not Japan/Hong Kong/China)
Concern:
The quality (Some says the quality isn't as good)
The firmware upgrade (maybe they will come slower)
- USA version
Concern:
It needs unlocking
Both of which are same price, which is around $150 cheaper than every other version.
So my questions are:
Is unlocking the carrier lock difficult/unsafe?
I don't plan to use it for 4G. Is there anything else I should be aware of when I look to buy a Z1?
thanks for reading anyway, hope to get some answers to help me out
etismyname said:
Hey guys,
I am thinking to get a Z1, I am not living in the US (I live in Hong Kong) and here're my options:
- Asia Version (not Japan/Hong Kong/China)
Concern:
The quality (Some says the quality isn't as good)
The firmware upgrade (maybe they will come slower)
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Don't buy it.
etismyname said:
- USA version
Concern:
It needs unlocking
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Buy Unbranded, it not need to be unlocked.
etismyname said:
Both of which are same price, which is around $150 cheaper than every other version.
So my questions are:
Is unlocking the carrier lock difficult/unsafe?
I don't plan to use it for 4G. Is there anything else I should be aware of when I look to buy a Z1?
thanks for reading anyway, hope to get some answers to help me out
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Unlocking is very easy and safe, and will be unlocked permanently.
thanks but I can't find a cheap unbranded Z1, they cost just as much as the Hong Kong version.
I guess US version is the safer option to go then?
eclyptos said:
Unlocking is very easy and safe, and will be unlocked permanently.
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It's worth knowing that until Sony fixes it, there is a problem with the camera breaking when the bootloader is unlocked.
akselic said:
It's worth knowing that until Sony fixes it, there is a problem with the camera breaking when the bootloader is unlocked.
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He was saing about Carrer Lock. So I do not mentioned that. They have nothing in common. Unlock Bootloader is necessary only to flash custom roms with custom kernels.That's all.
eclyptos said:
He was saing about Carrer Lock. So I do not mentioned that. They have nothing in common. Unlock Bootloader is necessary only to flash custom roms with custom kernels.That's all.
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Thanks for the correction, I misunderstood
Don't buy Z1 as there are many faulty units out there. It's a hit or miss on a good or sucky unit
brapicoco said:
Don't buy Z1 as there are many faulty units out there. It's a hit or miss on a good or sucky unit
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Where?
brapicoco said:
Don't buy Z1 as there are many faulty units out there.
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What are you talking about? Where? When? Avoid this kind of bad information please, is not good for a life of a forum.
My Z1 is perfect and I have never had a better phone.
Go ahead with it. :good:
88Mike said:
What are you talking about? Where? When? Avoid this kind of bad information please, is not good for a life of a forum.
My Z1 is perfect and I have never had a better phone.
Go ahead with it. :good:
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Seems like you are misinformed about the problems out there. Why dont you try visiting the sony forums and see for yourself.
I got mine fromm Singapore, is it Asia version? Dunno anyhow its provlem free except for the touch ossue that everyone have...
Screen is pretty, great blacks, device runs fast and and doesnt over heat. My serial is bh90l... Is that Asia version?
Sent from my C6903 using Tapatalk
so i have made my decision to just buy the japanese version.
The screen apparently is more red (he showed me a hk version and a japanese version) which I like a bit more.
It comes with a charging dock and a 32GB internal memory which I like a lot.
Problem:
Updating can get very troublesome, I think I will have to stuck with the not so good firmware (comes with the .534 firmware and not the .213, what's worse is that I don't think i will ever get the .213)
other than that, the phone is perfect, I am still playing around with the camera thoguh
shteren said:
I got mine fromm Singapore, is it Asia version? Dunno anyhow its provlem free except for the touch ossue that everyone have...
Screen is pretty, great blacks, device runs fast and and doesnt over heat. My serial is bh90l... Is that Asia version?
Sent from my C6903 using Tapatalk
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my device is from SG and is suffering from touch screen problem mine BH90B
If I will know I will have such problem with a High End Flagship Device I will never buy it, F..K!
This is bad, so the Flagship Device is coming to be a Crap Device
I got screen issue and we can't unlock the Booloader, camera will be broken.
Bad Batch?
See:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2540950
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2482777
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2564985
Hello, I bought HTC ONE brand new from eBay and after short use I found camera issue and the seller exchanged the phone with new one. Next I decided to sell it. After that the new buyer accused me for Fake phone. The main reason is the phone origin is asian, made for the asian region. The phone has firmware updates, Sense 6. I was 100 % sure that is Genuine but the buyer made me doubt a little. So we open a dispute in eBay. I will invite him here and let see who is right. He also said the IMEI number is cloned and the phone is not original.
The question is how to check if the phone is fake or original ? What's are the differences if they look exactly the same ? I think cannot exist fake copy or cloned phone which has the exact same software and hardware specifications as the genuine.
kovu666 said:
Hello, I bought HTC ONE brand new from eBay and after short use I found camera issue and the seller exchanged the phone with new one. Next I decided to sell it. After that the new buyer accused me for Fake phone. The main reason is the phone origin is asian, made for the asian region. The phone has firmware updates, Sense 6. I was 100 % sure that is Genuine but the buyer made me doubt a little. So we open a dispute in eBay. I will invite him here and let see who is right. He also said the IMEI number is cloned and the phone is not original.
The question is how to check if the phone is fake or original ? What's are the differences if they look exactly the same ? I think cannot exist fake copy or cloned phone which has the exact same software and hardware specifications as the genuine.
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First off hardware specs can be faked easily enough. Most fakes have a mediatech chip and almost no ram. It is very hard to tell for those that dont know what to look for and to be honest you cant really be sure unless you buy it from HTC or a trusted reseller like amazon. I never buy devices off of Ebay anymore as the sellers can seldom be trusted when it come to mobile phones.
Here is the eBay store which I bought it from. As you see he claims that selling Genuine product and they have 99,3 % positive feedback.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/231164036101?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
kovu666 said:
Here is the eBay store which I bought it from. As you see he claims that selling Genuine product and they have 99,3 % positive feedback.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/231164036101?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
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The first thing that is a give away that it is a fake is that the device doesn't have an 8mp camera. It has a 4mp ultra pixel camera. Don't trust feedback either. Alot of sellers have their friends give them feedback
I know about the camera. He's wrong in the upper description. The phone has 4 ultra mpx.
Look down the Technical Details is shown correct.
Down in terms he's wrote:
All items we sell are 100% Genuine and accurately described in the listings. We will do our very best to provide the highest customers service and aim to keep all customers happy. If you have any problems with the service or items you have received, please do not hesitate to contact us immediately to resolve your concern. For more sales inquiries or better deal , please contact us at [email protected]
Must be a way to find the true is it genuine or not.
kovu666 said:
I know about the camera. He's wrong in the upper description. The phone has 4 ultra mpx.
Look down the Technical Details is shown correct.
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You can't trust what's on the page. They could put anything there.
There are apps that can ID the processors, etc. on your phone, though I'm not sure if these can be spoofed. But if it comes up with something weird, that would be proof it's a fake.
iElvis said:
You can't trust what's on the page. They could put anything there.
There are apps that can ID the processors, etc. on your phone, though I'm not sure if these can be spoofed. But if it comes up with something weird, that would be proof it's a fake.
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That's I'm talking about. There must be something that can't be spoofed. For exsample if you make a note which is so good spoofed how you will find if it's fake. There must be something different.
kovu666 said:
That's I'm talking about. There must be something that can't be spoofed. For exsample if you make a note which is so good spoofed how you will find if it's fake. There must be something different.
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one look at the bootloader screen and a fastboot getvar all
should prove it's real
clsA said:
one look at the bootloader screen and a fastboot getvar all
should prove it's real
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Even that can be spoofed. The only way to be sure is to by from a trusted source. We have even come across some that have gone as far as coping IMEI number from real devices.
CPU-Z is a reliable software to check hardware, like @iElvis said, I don't know if it can be spoofed, but I personally don't think it can be. Below is an image of CPU and GPU info of a legit HTC m7 (Verizon variant)
Sent from my HTC6500LVW using XDA Free mobile app
Uzephi said:
CPU-Z is a reliable software to check hardware, like @iElvis said, I don't know if it can be spoofed, but I personally don't think it can be. Below is an image of CPU and GPU info of a legit HTC m7 (Verizon variant)
Sent from my HTC6500LVW using XDA Free mobile app
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Oh It can be. We have come across a few devices that are really good clones. They had to open the phone up to know it was a fake. But some things will give it away. Like most have small ram amounts, low res cameras. Things like that.
I am the buyer to whom the OP sold this device on eBay.
What she has neglected to mention is that the unit, which was originally sourced from Hong Kong, was supplied in entirely counterfeit packaging. The box is made of heavy polypropylene, rather than the card that all HTC's have long since been packaged in, and it has colour photocopied stickers front and back taken from a German language original. These copies also copy the HTC "98% reclyclable" logo that is shown on their authentic card-based factory packaging, despite the fact that clearly none of this packaging is likely to be in any way recyclable...
The box has no IMEI/Pin ID stickering of any kind, which again, is something found on all HTC packaging. The accessories supplied in the box are not those that come with this model, the SIM card pin is a crude copy, not an HTC original, the only paperwork in the box is a black and white photocopy of an HTC manual whereas this model is factory packed with a SIM tool card, a Warranty card, a user agreement booklet and colour manual.
I have come across pretty much this exact packaging (including the German language colour-copied stickering) about 12 months ago on another Hong-Kong sourced HTC One which eventually did prove to be a clone.
Since I'm not going to be opening up the hardware I have no way of determining for sure whether this particular handset is a clone or a refurbed original, what what I can say is it most certainly isn't a "Brand new sealed" unit in "original retail packaging" with a "manufacturers Warranty", which is how the unit was described when listed for sale by the OP, who also made no reference in her eBay listing to the fact that it has been sourced from Hong Kong.
Why you guys don't start a chat discussion with HTC. You will find how to on htc.com. They will ask you to provide them the IMEI and S\N and will tell you that if it's a unit from them or not and if it's under warranty.
And they may ask you some other things that will let you to know if it's a genuine unit.
Uzephi said:
CPU-Z is a reliable software to check hardware, like @iElvis said, I don't know if it can be spoofed, but I personally don't think it can be.
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As zelendel suggested, pretty much anything can be spoofed if someone is willing to go to enough trouble. Apps like this aren't performing independent analyses on the internals, they're just sending queries to the chips to identify themselves. If the chip has been designed to reply with a false ID, the app won't know the difference.
I just didn't realize people were really going to that level to make fake phones.
What about the imei on the Sim card tray? I doubt if its an original Sim card tray, that it has a faked imei.
Hi everybody!
I have a problem on my Sony xz3 I bought one month ago and I just realized NFC was "not supported", as nfc check says.
In configuration, there is a nfc menu but nothing in it.
I didn't modify anything and I bought it re furnished.
Do you think there is something I could try before asking an exchange?
Hope to hear from you soon
Laurent
chances are that it is a Japanese vibrant of the phone and was flashed to a other region firmware. Previous user remove nfc system apk to prevent battery drain
You may need to reflash the original region firmware
First of all, thank you very much for your answer!!!
Would you accept to tell me how to proceed?
Best regards,
Laurent
I must add that I used sony pc companion to renew the "firmware" but it didnt change anything.... But, if I understand what you say, it might be a foreign phone not matching with the version?
And my XZ3 model is H8416 with android 10
Hope it helps...
Device Info HW - Apps on Google Play
Hardware and software information app for Android devices.
play.google.com
Check this app and see what version you actually have
Alex5699 said:
Device Info HW - Apps on Google Play
Hardware and software information app for Android devices.
play.google.com
Check this app and see what version you actually have
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Hope it helps...
And thank you for your help!
I have the same problem. I bought a refurished phone from back market, even if the vendor is a spanish reseller (iREPACK). I've run the Device Info HW app, too, and now? Thank you for the reply!
abj79 said:
I have the same problem. I bought a refurished phone from back market, even if the vendor is a spanish reseller (iREPACK). I've run the Device Info HW app, too, and now? Thank you for the reply!
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I also bought it from iRepack!
That strange... I finally sent it back a few days ago ans they are going to see if they have a better one...
But now it seems either they all have this problem in spain or I dont know what happens to these xz3
I will let you know about thé next steps with iRepack...
I've the same report for my XZ3
if you have the IMEI of that phone could you please send me it in private?
I think i will Ask for m'y Money back and try to find another reseller Somewhere else...
However,i Saw iRepack didnt have any other xz3 (except maybe thé one you are going to sens back in thé next few days lol)
abj79 said:
if you have the IMEI of that phone could you please send me it in private?
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I dont have it any more and it cant bé thé same, they received my phone back this morning
Mine is grey, I've received it the 15th, three days ago.
abj79 said:
Mine is grey, I've received it the 15th, three days ago.
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Mine was a green one...
I finally was refunded and bought a fully working nfc xz3 from a back market seller called
Concord Service Center
in Romania
Happy!
I just wanted to post that I got hit with one of these too.
A cheap XZ3... $245Aus on eBay... which I bought to tide me over until I could buy a more expensive phone.
On the back is says it's an SOV39. A Japanese phone locked to "au by KDDI". But it is refirmware'd to H8416. The version for USA and much of Europe.
And yeah, you use it for a day and it seems fine, until you find out the NFC doesn't work and the Bluetooth is really flaky.
(And it just sucks that they didn't implement proper Gestures in Sony's Android 10)
So, the obvious moral of the story is beware of super cheap XZ3 phones.
gregmcp said:
I just wanted to post that I got hit with one of these too.
A cheap XZ3... $245Aus on eBay... which I bought to tide me over until I could buy a more expensive phone.
On the back is says it's an SOV39. A Japanese phone locked to "au by KDDI". But it is refirmware'd to H8416. The version for USA and much of Europe.
And yeah, you use it for a day and it seems fine, until you find out the NFC doesn't work and the Bluetooth is really flaky.
(And it just sucks that they didn't implement proper Gestures in Sony's Android 10)
So, the obvious moral of the story is beware of super cheap XZ3 phones.
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I have Sony Xperia XZ3 AU Kddi but i don't have problem until now all function is good. But for root no access since need unlock permanent network subset and bootloader.