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Hi. New to Xperia phone, coming from S3. So far loving it! just wondering if I can root and still have the option to get OTA from Sony? Don't want to loose bravia engine 2 (yet) so only need root to remove som bloatwares and install some apps. Also, if that is possible to get OTA with root, will updating the phone remove root?
Thanks!
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UnLucky12 said:
Hi. New to Xperia phone, coming from S3. So far loving it! just wondering if I can root and still have the option to get OTA from Sony? Don't want to loose bravia engine 2 (yet) so only need root to remove som bloatwares and install some apps. Also, if that is possible to get OTA with root, will updating the phone remove root?
Thanks!
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Use pro features of SuperSU or OTA Rootkeeper to protect your root, then when you OTA update you should be fine. Try not to modify anything in the System partition otherwise OTA will probably fail (is my understanding), or if you do (i.e. renaming various apks/odex files to .bak), make sure you put them back before OTA updating, in case they need to be patched.
Thanks for the reply! I was only thinking of installing adaway, also the whitecontroll mod to the Xperia. How do I then remove them like the whitecontroll app witch is intergrated in to the system?
If it removes root, I can always reroot the device
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UnLucky12 said:
Thanks for the reply! I was only thinking of installing adaway, also the whitecontroll mod to the Xperia. How do I then remove them like the whitecontroll app witch is intergrated in to the system?
If it removes root, I can always reroot the device
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I'm not sure about the WB control, I imagine that would likely prevent OTA due to libs inserted in to /system, perhaps if you were to perform the installation manually, take note of all files inserted, and backup any (if any) files it overwrites you could restore it before OTA.
As for AdAway, it only changes your host file, which shouldn't affect OTA, since I doubt Sony will make any changes to it OTA, but AdAway can be "undone" from within the app, so you can do that easily anyway.
It's hard to say really and depends on the OTA, but generally, from my experience, if the OTA contains a patch for a particular file, it will MD5 it, and if that fails, OTA will fail, if you have modified files that aren't patched as part of the OTA you shouldn't have a problem.
That said, I have little experience with Sony OTA files, and without looking at the script for any particular OTA you can never tell what they might check or change.
The only recommendation I can give really, is that if you want to OTA, change as LITTLE as possible in the /system partition, and make sure to revert any changes before attempting to apply an OTA.
If that is too much effort, and all you're really concerned about is you data, use Titanium Backup to keep everything safe, modify anything you want in system, then flash a stock ROM before you OTA update. You could also just flash a stock system partition, perhaps from a nandroid? before you OTA, and that should also solve the problem.
As you don't unlock your bootloader you're safe.
But OTA doesn't always works even in locked bootloader, tried yesterday to OTA update my locked bootloader Xperia T to .140 fw but it failed because of root, even after unroot with superSU option it failed.
Backup everything, update with SUS or PCC and reroot with binary tool using goroh_kun exploit included in the tool..
alias_neo said:
I'm not sure about the WB control, I imagine that would likely prevent OTA due to libs inserted in to /system, perhaps if you were to perform the installation manually, take note of all files inserted, and backup any (if any) files it overwrites you could restore it before OTA.
As for AdAway, it only changes your host file, which shouldn't affect OTA, since I doubt Sony will make any changes to it OTA, but AdAway can be "undone" from within the app, so you can do that easily anyway.
It's hard to say really and depends on the OTA, but generally, from my experience, if the OTA contains a patch for a particular file, it will MD5 it, and if that fails, OTA will fail, if you have modified files that aren't patched as part of the OTA you shouldn't have a problem.
That said, I have little experience with Sony OTA files, and without looking at the script for any particular OTA you can never tell what they might check or change.
The only recommendation I can give really, is that if you want to OTA, change as LITTLE as possible in the /system partition, and make sure to revert any changes before attempting to apply an OTA.
If that is too much effort, and all you're really concerned about is you data, use Titanium Backup to keep everything safe, modify anything you want in system, then flash a stock ROM before you OTA update. You could also just flash a stock system partition, perhaps from a nandroid? before you OTA, and that should also solve the problem.
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So I can make a nandroid backup with only root? Using Rom Manager app. Or do I need to unlock the bootlocker? If I can, then I can just recover from nandroid that are stock, update then backup again, change systemlibs etc?
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As you don't unlock your bootloader you're safe.
But OTA doesn't always works even in locked bootloader, tried yesterday to OTA update my locked bootloader Xperia T to .140 fw but it failed because of root, even after unroot with superSU option it failed.
Backup everything, update with SUS or PCC and reroot with binary tool using goroh_kun exploit included in the tool..
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I see! Hmmm. But SUS?
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UnLucky12 said:
I see! Hmmm. But SUS?
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I believe SUS is Sony Update Service.
Technically, you should be able to nandroid with recovery for locked bootloader then restore system before OTA, but if Sony OTA checks somehow prevent it because of an md5 on the entire partition or some such, you will have to re flash a totally stock System, perhaps a custom FTF(?), update then root again.
Next time we get an OTA I'll test the process myself, but until then I can only speculate. Hopefully someone else has more concrete information.
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I believe SUS is Sony Update Service.
Technically, you should be able to nandroid with recovery for locked bootloader then restore system before OTA, but if Sony OTA checks somehow prevent it because of an md5 on the entire partition or some such, you will have to re flash a totally stock System, perhaps a custom FTF(?), update then root again.
Next time we get an OTA I'll test the process myself, but until then I can only speculate. Hopefully someone else has more concrete information.
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Thanks man! But Stock rom for the XZ. How or where can I download it? Supposed to use SUS or PCC? What is best?
Sorry for being such a noob. Don't want to totally destroy my phone hehe.
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UnLucky12 said:
Thanks man! But Stock rom for the XZ. How or where can I download it? Supposed to use SUS or PCC? What is best?
Sorry for being such a noob. Don't want to totally destroy my phone hehe.
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No problem, I, and I imagine others prefer to answer questions from cautious users than those all gung-ho, brick their devices then come crying for help. Ask first, flash later
As for which tool, I hope someone else can comment, I've always been a Samsung man until now so I've never used either tool yet.
As for stock firmwares, there are loads in the Dev section. Just pick the right one and flash it however they recommend.
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No problem, I, and I imagine others prefer to answer questions from cautious users than those all gung-ho, brick their devices then come crying for help. Ask first, flash later
As for which tool, I hope someone else can comment, I've always been a Samsung man until now so I've never used either tool yet.
As for stock firmwares, there are loads in the Dev section. Just pick the right one and flash it however they recommend.
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Yeah, and thanks for the help Hope your answers will also help other that also wonders about the same thing
Arent there a program or website to download the official firmwares? Or using SUS automatically update it to stock?
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UnLucky12 said:
Yeah, and thanks for the help Hope your answers will also help other that also wonders about the same thing
Arent there a program or website to download the official firmwares? Or using SUS automatically update it to stock?
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I believe so. Buy don't quote me on that, like I said, never used it.
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It's the same if you use Sony Update Service or PC Compagnon, PCC contain other tool, while SUS only update. Also you can use Flashtool by Androxyde (here on XDA) to flash firmware converted in ftf format. Sony also relased it's own tool named flashtool to flash unlocked bootloader mobile because you can't use SUS/PCC when it's unlocked.
Read this thread "All the info you need before you begin" http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2153167
Hi all, i'd like to update to 4.2.2 .427 but if i try to update Sony Pc Companion says error 2003 so i tryed to lock bootloader but if i power on the phone it just dont do nothing, just a little vibration.
Try sus.
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EmeraldTimer said:
Hi all, i'd like to update to 4.2.2 .427 but if i try to update Sony Pc Companion says error 2003 so i tryed to lock bootloader but if i power on the phone it just dont do nothing, just a little vibration.
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As @gm007 said, it is advisable that you do a repair using SUS before doing anything else.
After that, if you're still on an older firmware (going by your signature) download any full .253 ftf (Find it here) and flash it in flash tool.
Ensure that you wipe everything when flashing.
Once you've updated to .253, root it & install 2.4 release dual recovery.
Then follow the instructions from here to update to .423.
If the instructions are unclear, just ask, I'll elaborate on whatever you didn't understand.
kgs1992 said:
As @gm007 said, it is advisable that you do a repair using SUS before doing anything else.
After that, if you're still on an older firmware (going by your signature) download any full .253 ftf (Find it here) and flash it in flash tool.
Ensure that you wipe everything when flashing.
Once you've updated to .253, root it & install 2.4 release dual recovery.
Then follow the instructions from here to update to .423.
If the instructions are unclear, just ask, I'll elaborate on whatever you didn't understand.
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I think the problem is not the rom cause now i am on 4.2.2 leaked but this happened on others updates official
@kgs1992
Not to argue with you, as you seem like a helpful person, but why advise to update to 253 first, when they could just jump straight to 423 and root it with Doomlord's tool if they require root?
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kingvortex said:
Not to argue with you, as you seem like a helpful person, but why advise to update to 253 first, when they could just jump straight to 423 and root it with Doomlord's tool if they require root?
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I'm not sure if there is a full ftf for update to .423, that's all.
And @[NUT] had advised an update from .253 or .307, but it seems the guide now says that you can also update from .350 or .434
I'm limited by my own knowledge, sorry.
kgs1992 said:
I'm not sure if there is a full ftf for update to .423, that's all.
And @[NUT] had advised an update from .253 or .307, but it seems the guide now says that you can also update from .350 or .434
I'm limited by my own knowledge, sorry.
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Nobody needs to be sorry for helping others
There are quite a few 423 ftf available in the general section.
I used this version - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2336874
There are a few more for different regions/customisations posted in that section
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kgs1992 said:
I'm not sure if there is a full ftf for update to .423, that's all.
And @[NUT] had advised an update from .253 or .307, but it seems the guide now says that you can also update from .350 or .434
I'm limited by my own knowledge, sorry.
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OP is on neither of those firmware versions, but yes, using a full FTF for .423 there shouldn't be any problems coming from .407. The only potential problem could be if the ROM you're coming from contains a different NFC firmware and the destination ROM doesn't flash a compatible version. But since .423 does do this there shouldn't be any problems in this case
So i should install .423 via flashtool?
EmeraldTimer said:
So i should install .423 via flashtool?
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Yes. Then root and restore TA partition if you have that backed up.
Rekoil said:
Yes. Then root and restore TA partition if you have that backed up.
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There is a way to keep all data and applications? is a boring thing to restore all
EmeraldTimer said:
There is a way to keep all data and applications? is a boring thing to restore all
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I'm not sure how the FlashTool process works. Does it wipe the data partition? If so there might be an option to not wipe it, I don't know. But if your device is rooted you can just back everything up with Titanium Backup (make sure to backup to external SD card) and restore the data for those crucial apps afterwards.
Flashtool tutorial -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2240614
Part 6 shows you how to keep data.
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Rekoil said:
I'm not sure how the FlashTool process works. Does it wipe the data partition? If so there might be an option to not wipe it, I don't know. But if your device is rooted you can just back everything up with Titanium Backup (make sure to backup to external SD card) and restore the data for those crucial apps afterwards.
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kingvortex said:
Flashtool tutorial -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2240614
Part 6 shows you how to keep data.
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Thank you, i am downloading :good:
Bloatware, force closes and all of that... NO.
Im done with stock rom and now is a good time to void my warranty!
I dont want to brick my device at the first place so maybe someone could help me out and explain how to flash rom's with this thing?
There seems to be so much different ways to do things but Im on a risk of bricking if I just go and flash things with this knox-bootloader...
Please clear out the procedure for me
So, I just found this thread.
Flash recovery, backup IMEI / NV Data and then I can flash 4.3 and 4.4 roms like I want..?
Heatti said:
So, I just found this thread.
Flash recovery, backup IMEI / NV Data and then I can flash 4.3 and 4.4 roms like I want..?
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basically for flashing custom roms/kernels, these are the things needed:
- root acces
- custom recovery like cwm/philz/twrp
and youre good to go. remember to flash only roms/kernels/recoverys made for i9305 specifically, otherwise youll risk bricking your phone!
to avoid any problems in recovery while flashing roms, use always the latest recovery version as those are compatible with the newest roms around.
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So this knox-bootloader wont cause any problems with 4.3 and 4.4 roms?
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Heatti said:
So this knox-bootloader wont cause any problems with 4.3 and 4.4 roms?
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no it wont, cause when updating the supersu binary supersu app will ask you to deactivate knox so it wont bother with any settings or apps on your device after deactivated
MaHo_66 said:
no it wont, cause when updating the supersu binary supersu app will ask you to deactivate knox so it wont bother with any settings or apps on your device after deactivated
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I managed to get a root, flashed philz recovery and backed up efs with several different ways just in case.
Now Im running on latest LiquidSmooth Rom and my S3 is officially reborn! :highfive:
Thanks for the help man :good:
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My device galaxy s3 19305 lte is brick. It won't boot up even after I flash the original firmware from sammobile. So I was told that the bootloader is damage. I probably damage it when I was trying to root. The phone only boot and get stuck in the Samsung logo. Please please can anyone point me to a thread where I can repairs the bootloader? Thanks
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My device galaxy s3 19305 lte is brick. It won't boot up even after I flash the original firmware from sammobile. So I was told that the bootloader is damage. I probably damage it when I was trying to root. The phone only boot and get stuck in the Samsung logo. Please please can anyone point me to a thread where I can repairs the bootloader? Thanks
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did you try a dalvik wipe? sometimes it helps
I think you need to flash twpr (you can find it on this forum) then a full wipe, after that, try another rom (i'm using for now a 4.4.4 rom, but tried several 5.02 rom's. Was working fine only a irri noise when i was caling with somebody, think my mic is broken)I would say, try also to use odin multiflasher to reset all settings of your phone, start new from the begin, It can be a nasty problem but good to fix.
killerbee_67 said:
did you try a dalvik wipe? sometimes it helps
I think you need to flash twpr (you can find it on this forum) then a full wipe, after that, try another rom (i'm using for now a 4.4.4 rom, but tried several 5.02 rom's. Was working fine only a irri noise when i was caling with somebody, think my mic is broken)I would say, try also to use odin multiflasher to reset all settings of your phone, start new from the begin, It can be a nasty problem but good to fix.
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I did the dalvik wipe. And I have twpr installed. The device is running 4.3 and I can't flash other rims coz i'm not rooted. Or can I?
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Flash kitkat official stock rom with Odin .
Did many times. No luck
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Da Legend said:
I did the dalvik wipe. And I have twpr installed. The device is running 4.3 and I can't flash other rims coz i'm not rooted. Or can I?
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If you have TWRP, you can flash anything. Root permissions apply inside the rom, not inside a custom recovery.
If you're on the recovery, you can flash anything (that your recovery allows).
inside TWRP, find a way to wipe everything except EFS. Format /system , /cache , /data and /data/media if it shows.
daedric said:
If you have TWRP, you can flash anything. Root permissions apply inside the rom, not inside a custom recovery.
If you're on the recovery, you can flash anything (that your recovery allows).
inside TWRP, find a way to wipe everything except EFS. Format /system , /cache , /data and /data/media if it shows.
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Are you saying that I can even upgrade my device to 4.4 kitkat? Please i just want to be sure. And does it mean that i9305 comes with an unlock boot loader?. Please please reply.
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Da Legend said:
Are you saying that I can even upgrade my device to 4.4 kitkat? Please i just want to be sure. And does it mean that i9305 comes with an unlock boot loader?. Please please reply.
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yes it should be possible to instal kitkat or lollipop, did that several times, but you have to be sure you're going to use the right rom's (9305 or LTE) if you don't you divice can be bricked.
Are you sure your samsung has root? please download en install root checker from the playstore, this will tell you if your samsung has root!!
i ran this rom a few days (again ihave a personal problem with my mic, on lollipop there is a noise, on kitkat or older roms not) can't find what couses the problem, sadly....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/development-i9305/rom-t3042318 link isn't availleble
follow the instructions correctly and it should work
killerbee_67 said:
yes it should be possible to instal kitkat or lollipop, did that several times, but you have to be sure you're going to use the right rom's (9305 or LTE) if you don't you divice can be bricked.
Are you sure your samsung has root? please download en install root checker from the playstore, this will tell you if your samsung has root!!
i ran this rom a few days (again ihave a personal problem with my mic, on lollipop there is a noise, on kitkat or older roms not) can't find what couses the problem, sadly....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/development-i9305/rom-t3042318
follow the instructions correctly and it should work
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My device doesn't have root!! But i have twrp installed. I was told that I can flash from the custom recovery without root! Please reply
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Da Legend said:
My device doesn't have root!! But i have twrp installed. I was told that I can flash from the custom recovery without root! Please reply
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With custom rom's better always look for root on your device.
you need this:
http://download.chainfire.eu/232/CF-Root/CF-Auto-Root/CF-Auto-Root-m3-m3zh-gti9305.zip
http://techerrata.com/file/twrp2/i9305/openrecovery-twrp-2.7.0.0-i9305.tarhttp://techerrata.com/file/twrp2/i9305/openrecovery-twrp-2.7.0.0-i9305.tar
Rom: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95916177934540052 this is a lollipop good working rom
on this url: you find info for using odin to flash the proper software on your gt-i9305!
http://www.droidviews.com/root-and-install-twrp-on-galaxy-s3-gt-i9305-lte/
read carefully and do exaxt the same thing.......suc6
I'm on 4.3 stock based ROM...want to upgrade to Vanir5.1.1 ...i just want to know what is the best method to do a full backup for data apks system settings images music ...etc) so if i don't like Vanir i just restore my backup and everything back to normal ..if i like Vanir i can port my stuff( apks data etc) to it from my backup ..... i have root ubl philz twrp cmw ...
thanks in advance
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I'm on 4.3 stock based ROM...want to upgrade to Vanir5.1.1 ...i just want to know what is the best method to do a full backup for data apks system settings images music ...etc) so if i don't like Vanir i just restore my backup and everything back to normal ..if i like Vanir i can port my stuff( apks data etc) to it from my backup ..... i have root ubl philz twrp cmw ...
thanks in advance
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I've been using Titanium Backup for ages, and it's never let me down. Just don't restore system settings across different ROM's, as that will cause problems.
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I've been using Titanium Backup for ages, and it's never let me down. Just don't restore system settings across different ROM's, as that will cause problems.
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Yeah I'm considering that...Cuz last time I did backup with philz recovery, and when I restored it gave me an error
I'll wait for another answer but thank you my friend
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I'm on 4.3 stock based ROM...want to upgrade to Vanir5.1.1 ...i just want to know what is the best method to do a full backup for data apks system settings images music ...etc) so if i don't like Vanir i just restore my backup and everything back to normal ..if i like Vanir i can port my stuff( apks data etc) to it from my backup ..... i have root ubl philz twrp cmw ...
thanks in advance
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Try 'ZIPme' from Play store
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thank you mate...but i did it already with titanium backup
ZIPme asks you what you want to back up. Takes everything and makes a flashable .zip out of it. Save it on external card and flash via recovery on the new ROM.
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Wanted to put the word out there for future reference
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You can take a nondroid backup from recovery.