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Greetings:
Is PDA Personal – Unlimited data mandatory to get this phone at a reasonable price ($99)? If so, how long do I have to keep this plan? I never use internet on a cell phone; however, as a trade off I am willing to keep the Data plan for a shortest period of time if at all possible.
My purchase plan for AT&T Tilt would be as follow:
- AT&T 2-year Contract (One-time activation fees apply: first new line of service, $36; each new additional line, $26; contract extension, $18.)
- Transfer old number
- AT&T FamilyTalk Nation 550 Rollover Minutes Unlimited $59.99
- PDA Personal – Unlimited data $30.00 for a shortest period of time if at all possible.
Per this conditional $250 discount from Amazon, I am allow to make change to the account after 6 month of contract. Am I reading this regulation correctly?
Any advice or additional comments is greatly appreciated.
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The Price listed above for this phone includes an instant $250 discount from Amazon.com. You agree to repay this $250 discount to Amazon.com if, during the six-month period following the activation date or renewal date of your existing contract, you: (1) fail to pay your balance due each month on time; (2) fail to maintain your account in good standing; (3) disconnect the line of service; (4) transfer the phone to another line of service; (5) change your service rate plan, including canceling or removing required PDA, BlackBerry, or smartphone features after your product has shipped; or (6) use this line of service to replace an existing account with the carrier. The discount is available only if you are activating a new non-substitute line of service or extending an existing line of service. If you do not follow these rules, you authorize Amazon.com to charge your credit card $250 as reimbursement of the discount without need for further approval. Third-party resellers are prohibited from purchasing cell phones on behalf of customers. **Purchase limit five (5) single-line accounts per household.**
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Data plan
If you purchased the phone from a store the data plan needs to be there until you get your rebates.
If you purchased online from like wirefly, they have a dual contract which is ussually 6 mos.
So, after rebates or 6 mos., depending on where you purchased.
After that call 611, or customer service @ 18003310500, and tell them to change your IMEI to all 1's and remove your pda packkage and add unlimited media net for 15 dollars.
I am an ATT retail representative and as long as the phone is hidden from imei, then you can do what you want, it will not extend your contract like other companies.
mayad79:
Thank you much for your advice.
If AT&T customer service put all 1's into the IMEI, does this mean that the phone will be hidden from IMEI? If so, are they willing to do it easily?
Can I just simply cancel the PDA package without adding anything? Or is there any other plan that is cheaper ($5~$10) than Media net which I will never going to use? I just want to use the phone as a regular phone and GPS device.
Your help is greatly appreciated.
Ok, First. To get your rebate you have to have the feature for 6 months.
second. NO att rep will change your imei number to all 1's its not possible.
so if you dont care about your rebate, then cancel your feature and change it to media net. if you bought if from a authorized retailer then they have what is called a dealer agreement with them and you. and they could charge you the difference you paid for the phone and the full retail price, since that is how they make there money.
Another thing, as long as you bought the phone from att. I.E. its branded at&t then they will always know what device you are using. it does not matter what you have cust care change your imei to. They just have better things to do than look to see if the millions of customers are using the right features.
KD8DNS:
Thanks for the additional information.
Per your posting, I will be able to cancel the data service plan after receiving my rebate and after 6 month of service without paying any penalty or additional fee. Am I understand correctly?
Thanks
pwanghk said:
KD8DNS:
Thanks for the additional information.
Per your posting, I will be able to cancel the data service plan after receiving my rebate and after 6 month of service without paying any penalty or additional fee. Am I understand correctly?
Thanks
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You can cancel the data plan whenever you want. But to get the rebates you have to play the rules.
had data plan removed without penalty
So my situation may be a rare case...
11 months ago I got my ATT tilt w/ family plan including the data plan as required for the rebate... ATT somehow didn't activate my data plan when i received the phone, as well as some other issues with rate charges that which didn't add up. The rate charges were corrected when I called in, but the data plan issue was left unsolved, they told me to contact amazon.
I asked amazon why this happened & why the data plan wasn't included... they said i have to activate it after i relieved the plan, repeating the same disclaimer nonsense as the website. I know this isn't the norm because previous experience by friends stated that amazon automatically stacks on the plan at time of purchase.
Long story short, 7 months go by & i did not get slapped with a $250 penalty, so I really don't know how serious Amazon in following disclaimer #5...
I just got an HTC Pure from AT&T but did not get a new SIM card or plan. I am planning to unlock the device to bypass the $30 per month charge for a data plan.
I currently am using an unlocked T-Mobile Dash (HTC S620) on AT&T's network.
I was wondering if there was any way to buy the $10 per month per phone data plan for myself, my brother, and my mom, then switch my SIM card to the unlocked Pure and have AT&T not recognize the new device.
OR
Could I simply switch the SIM card without unlocking and still get the $10 per month per phone data plan?
my friend if i can do so i would have done that long ago and gotten me a pure, but att and htc made plans that all 850 phones belongs to att. when u insert the sim into the phone no matter what the IMEI from the pure gets identified and the plan get switched over automatically.
only way to bypass that is by changing the IMEI of the phone, which is illegal and i dont know if it can be done
are you 100% sure? because I've gotten mixed answers between you, Yahoo Answers, and AT&T themselves
ATT said no??, yahoo said??? i say no
i know some ppl have gotten away with it by upgrading to a pure and stayed with the $10 data plan.
so if u would like to risk it go ahead
Actually the guy at AT&T said it may work. Yahoo said it did. I'm confused. What's the risk if I do get the data plan? Can I switch back to my old phone and get it taken off?
the risk i am talking about the automatic data plan activation, i have asked almost every ATT in miami if there is a way to get around it i have gotten the same answer NO
hmm, ok.
thanks for your help, I'm gonna go into an ATT store tomorrow to see if they can do anything. but I know what answer to expect now
They do not change your plan automatically.
I have had a HTC TILT, HTC FUZE, and am now with my HTC PURE.
I have the ATT data plan for 9.99 unlimited.
All I did was switch my sim to any ATT non PDA phone. Call att, have them add this feature. Then just slap on my sim on my HTC device.
That simple, have been doing it for years and even to my most recent bill I still have the 9.99 Media net plan.
cobo10201 said:
I just got an HTC Pure from AT&T but did not get a new SIM card or plan. I am planning to unlock the device to bypass the $30 per month charge for a data plan.
I currently am using an unlocked T-Mobile Dash (HTC S620) on AT&T's network.
I was wondering if there was any way to buy the $10 per month per phone data plan for myself, my brother, and my mom, then switch my SIM card to the unlocked Pure and have AT&T not recognize the new device.
OR
Could I simply switch the SIM card without unlocking and still get the $10 per month per phone data plan?
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Multiple posts won't win you any friends!
TheChemist187 said:
They do not change your plan automatically.
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Yes. They do. I have experienced this with the iphone. I put my sim into an iphone and my plan changed to iphone data plan. I had to call ATT, tell them that I was just checking it out, and got it changed back.
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I have had a HTC TILT, HTC FUZE, and am now with my HTC PURE.
I have the ATT data plan for 9.99 unlimited.
All I did was switch my sim to any ATT non PDA phone. Call att, have them add this feature. Then just slap on my sim on my HTC device.
That simple, have been doing it for years and even to my most recent bill I still have the 9.99 Media net plan.
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I had a LG-VU with the $9.99 data plan.
I upgraded to the HTC Pure. When the box arrived, the first thing I did was to open the phone and remove the new sim that they had inserted into the phone. I put my old sim from the LG-VU and fired up the phone.
It is 3 months now and my data plan is still $9.99.
I been having the $9.99 plan since july and I have the HTC pure. My plan is 4 years old though and I started with a razr.
If you have an ooooold plan that you got through an offer or whatever.....then you are ok....new plans from about three years and before....you want to theter (without the 60 dollar plan) get ready for a 2k plus bill. Been there years ago. Not worth it
after 6 months with the phone, you can cancel data and even have them put a data block
or so i've been told, but unlocking wont allow you to remove it, you're breaking the contract that got you the phone for cheap (or free in my case)
can some1 explain to me wtf this is all about?
If i have a, let's say a Tmobile contract (or any other, AT&T, Vodafone, etc) and i am using "x" phone with this contract....and i buy a new phone, which is different, then why am i not allowed to just change phones? coz that seems to be your guys problem, correct?
are u stuck on one phone for your whole contract? and if u change to, say a better phone, they up your contract price?!?!?!?!? that's HARD to swallow over here in europe... but is that the case?
I have spent countless hours of research here and at howard forums. They will auto switch your plan if you have a Nexus one or a ATT branded smartphone. You would have to get a T-Mobile branded smartphone butt you will loose 3G or get a unbranded smartphone imported which will cost you a lot of mulah. I was looking at getting at HD2 form Australia so I can get the 850 band (3G) but that was selling for 600-800 bucks.
Good luck with your quest young one.
try this... keep an old basic phone lying around and IF they ever DO switch it, call AT&T (USING THE OLDER PHONE!!!) and tell them you borrowed a friends phone for a few weeks while yours was broken and to verify that you are no longer using a "smartphone" and to drop it back down to $10/mo. They should only do random sweeps and this might happen once every few months... Works for me!!
i tried doing the switch back to a non smart phone technique, yet everyday i would get a text saying att has upped my plan to a smart phone one, so now im out 20 bucks , same with iphone, although you could unlock it to get a 10 dollar plan
I guess I'm lucky then. When I called to get internet for my At&t 8525 (about 3 years ago) I asked for an unlimited plan. The representative added a $15 plan. Since then, I've upgraded to a Tilt and now I'm on a HTC Pure with the same plan.
Even with an unlocked iPhone they are still able to add the $30 plan, that is exactly what they did to me. It has to do with the ATT sim card not the phone itself.
chikoo said:
Yes. They do. I have experienced this with the iphone. I put my sim into an iphone and my plan changed to iphone data plan. I had to call ATT, tell them that I was just checking it out, and got it changed back.
I had a LG-VU with the $9.99 data plan.
I upgraded to the HTC Pure. When the box arrived, the first thing I did was to open the phone and remove the new sim that they had inserted into the phone. I put my old sim from the LG-VU and fired up the phone.
It is 3 months now and my data plan is still $9.99.
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Update:
ATT has now automatically switched me to the $30 data plan, for my convenience (ha!).
I took out the SIM and put it in another "feature" phone and I was given the option to use the $9.99 plan.
I selected that and switched the SIM back to the ATT Pure.
Guess what?
For my "convenience", ATT switched me back to the $30 data plan.
A friend of mine wants to sell me an HTC which would have been top of the line 4 months ago, they're wealthy, and have since switched to the DROID.
First of all she doesn't know which HTC it is. She say there are no markings on the phone. It is all black with a 2 pixel camera.
Verizon says I have to purchase the $80 data package to activate this phone.
Does anyone know what model this HTC is on this information?
And do I have to purchase an $80 data package for activation?
Thank you,
J. R.
robinson1212 said:
A friend of mine wants to sell me an HTC which would have been top of the line 4 months ago, they're wealthy, and have since switched to the DROID.
First of all she doesn't know which HTC it is. She say there are no markings on the phone. It is all black with a 2 pixel camera.
Verizon says I have to purchase the $80 data package to activate this phone.
Does anyone know what model this HTC is on this information?
And do I have to purchase an $80 data package for activation?
Thank you,
J. R.
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It may be a Touch(Vogue) or a Diamond but you'll have to go to a retailer to find out about plan prices.
robinson1212 said:
First of all she doesn't know which HTC it is. She say there are no markings on the phone. It is all black with a 2 pixel camera.
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A picture of the device would help if you can get one.
robinson1212 said:
A friend of mine wants to sell me an HTC which would have been top of the line 4 months ago, they're wealthy, and have since switched to the DROID.
First of all she doesn't know which HTC it is. She say there are no markings on the phone. It is all black with a 2 pixel camera.
Verizon says I have to purchase the $80 data package to activate this phone.
Does anyone know what model this HTC is on this information?
And do I have to purchase an $80 data package for activation?
Thank you,
J. R.
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Sounds like the HTC Diamond. You can probably get it on a fairly low-cost plan with Sprint, or even bring it to Boostmobile, Sprint's pre-paid arm. Boost has a $50 "unlimited everything" package, which includes unlimited talk, text, MMS picture mail, 3G data, GPS and tethering, for $50 flat (all taxes/fees included.) They also have a Pay-as-you-Go plan which allows you to use your Diamond on a package that charges you $10 every 3 months for a basic account that includes 100 minutes and, once used up, charges 10cts. per minute of talk or text. Unlimited 3G data is 35 cts. per day, if that is desired.
If you don't use a lot of talk minutes, but mostly look for being on the internet with the phone, you could get the Pay-as-you-Go plan and pay no more than $13.85 per month for 100 minutes/90 days and absolutely unlimited 3G data.
certain carriers require you to get a data plan with "smart" phones. I wanted to upgrade my diamond to the hero but I would of had to join a Data plan (I use the wifi on the diamond now). so i turned that down and kept my phone. If its sprint they don't require a data plan for the diamond (I beleive, but check it again)
I don't believe there's an unlocker for the Verizon Diamond. So if it is a Diamond I think you may be stuck on verizon's network and their over-priced plans.
I got my Bionic for $250.00 and we have a nationwide corporate pool that includes....wait for it...unlimited data. They are also running a promo for new customers where you can send in your old pos phone and get at least a $100.00 Verizon gift card. Accessories here I come.
The main point is if you have a decent corporate discount, you can get it for $250.00 then send in an old phone and get $100.00 gift card which you can use to pay your bill. It is like getting it for $150.00
I was told that you're only eligible for the gift card if you are coming from a device without a data plan...
Are you sure about the unlimited data? I thought unlimited data was gone even for corporate users? Unless you particular company has a separate secret deal with VZ....
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I was told that you're only eligible for the gift card if you are coming from a device without a data plan...
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Which would mean you lose your grandfathered in unlimited data plan....wait...going from 3G to 4G do they grandfather in your unlimited data?
shadowclock said:
Which would mean you lose your grandfathered in unlimited data plan....wait...going from 3G to 4G do they grandfather in your unlimited data?
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I ordered my Bionic this morning and was able to keep my unlimited plan coming from a 3g smartphone (Incredible).
I was able to keep unlimited data coming from the inc as well
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Are you sure about the unlimited data? I thought unlimited data was gone even for corporate users? Unless you particular company has a separate secret deal with VZ....
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Yup, we have a super secret deal I guess. We have 117,000 employees.
dan46n2 said:
I was told that you're only eligible for the gift card if you are coming from a device without a data plan...
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It says for new customers. The way I read it, I should be able to send in whatever old phone I have and I will get at least 100.00. It doesn't have to be a Verizon phone.
I got my phone this AM for 149+ tax. It was 249 the a additional 100 off for going from a 3G to 4g smartphone.
The $100 special offer is for going from a feature phone to a 4G phone, and for that you have to mail in the feature phone and jump through some more hoops, not an instant discount. So power to you brother, but whatever you got wasn't the "Get Paid to Trade" deal.
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Okay, I know that as of the 24th of August, Verizon closed a loophole which allowed people to transfer a device upgrade from a non-smartphone line to one with an existing smartphone data plan. Some people did this to keep an unlimited data plan, but since I lost my unlimited data over a year ago, I have been using it to upgrade my device every year.
Some people have cited success by purchasing a divide on Best Buy's website, having the device shipped, and then activating it with a swapped-out SIM card from another device, thus never activating a smart phone data plan on the dumb-phone's line. What I'm wondering is if this is possible through the MotoMaker website.
I've got an upgrade available on a dumb-phone's line on my account. If I make use of that upgrade through MotoMaker, can I activate the device using my current Moto X's SIM card once the new device arrives, and keep the $10/month dumb phone plan without upping it to a $30/month smartphone plan?
Any advice/success stories would be most appreciated! Thanks in advance.
I tried to do this with my new moto x through the moto website and the droid RAZR m's Sim card was bigger than the moto x rendering the swap incompatible. I'd say look into which phones uses the Sim card in terms of size and compatibility. Good luck!
I speak from experience that the size isn't an issue. It may sound crazy but you can literally cut your larger SIM to fit these either with a cutter like the noosy or you can even print out a template. I will caution that the smaller Sims are thinner so you also have to sand down your cut SIM to reduce risk of damaging the phone's SIM cradle.
With that said, you can also take a phone into a corporate Verizon store at any time and get a new SIM for free. Just tell them you bought this phone outright. I used each of these methods to keep unlimited data on my two lines while getting a subsidized moto x and htc one m8.
This is slightly different, however, in that both of mine already had data plans so I was able to select "keep my current plan" through the bb. In the end I don't know how crucial that was in keeping my old lines on the same plan simply by not activating the provided SIM. You might have more trouble because the website may see that you don't even have a data plan and require that you select one in a way that sticks with Verizon.
Sorry for the long post, I'm thorough.
GreenMunky said:
Okay, I know that as of the 24th of August, Verizon closed a loophole which allowed people to transfer a device upgrade from a non-smartphone line to one with an existing smartphone data plan.
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That's not the loophole that was closed. Actually, it wasn't a loophole at all.
What happened on the 25th are these 2 things:
1) If you use a basic phone's upgrade to buy a smartphone and you are on a legacy plan, you will be required to pay for a minimum $30/mo tiered data plan on the basic line for 2 years regardless of what phone is actually on the line (i.e., putting a basic phone on the line will no longer drop the data plan off of the line); and
2) You no longer can transfer your UDP line's upgrades to another line, either basic phone or TDP lines, without losing your UDP.
Wrt #2 - the reason you are no longer able to do this is b/c when you transfer a UDP line's upgrade to another non-UDP line, it is the donor line (i.e., the UDP line) whose contract is extended and will be required to move to a minimum $30/mo tiered data plan for 2 years. Note that UDPs are $29.99/mo.
GreenMunky said:
Some people have cited success by purchasing a divide on Best Buy's website, having the device shipped, and then activating it with a swapped-out SIM card from another device, thus never activating a smart phone data plan on the dumb-phone's line. What I'm wondering is if this is possible through the MotoMaker website.
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Yes it is b/c moto maker uses the best buy check out system, although you haven't described it accurately.
All you have to do is upgrade on your UDP line and when the new phone arrives, do not turn it on. Remove the sim card the phone ships with and replace it with the 4G LTE sim card that is currently active on your UDP line. Then turn the new phone on.
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I've got an upgrade available on a dumb-phone's line on my account. If I make use of that upgrade through MotoMaker, can I activate the device using my current Moto X's SIM card once the new device arrives, and keep the $10/month dumb phone plan without upping it to a $30/month smartphone plan?
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This may very well work, but again, I don't think you have described it correctly. To do it what you would do is order a Moto X on moto maker using your basic phone's upgrade on your basic phone line and when the new phone arrives, do not turn it on. Remove the sim card the phone ships with and replace it with a 4G LTE sim card that is currently active on one of your lines on your account. Then turn the phone on.
If you try it, please report back if it works, thanks.
hackeruti said:
I tried to do this with my new moto x through the moto website and the droid RAZR m's Sim card was bigger than the moto x rendering the swap incompatible. I'd say look into which phones uses the Sim card in terms of size and compatibility. Good luck!
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Buy a sim cutter off of ebay for dirt cheap. Or read up on how to cut down a sim card by hand.
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I will caution that the smaller Sims are thinner so you also have to sand down your cut SIM to reduce risk of damaging the phone's SIM cradle.
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This.
cntryby429 said:
With that said, you can also take a phone into a corporate Verizon store at any time and get a new SIM for free. Just tell them you bought this phone outright. I used each of these methods to keep unlimited data on my two lines while getting a subsidized moto x and htc one m8.
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As long as you are not left with a pending activation on your line, yes. They will also mail them to you if you call or you can order them here as long as the phone is active on your account.
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This is slightly different, however, in that both of mine already had data plans so I was able to select "keep my current plan" through the bb. In the end I don't know how crucial that was in keeping my old lines on the same plan simply by not activating the provided SIM. You might have more trouble because the website may see that you don't even have a data plan and require that you select one in a way that sticks with Verizon.
Sorry for the long post, I'm thorough.
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The method works with any 3rd party retailer and you can read my explanation of why it works here.
Wansanta said:
This may very well work, but again, I don't think you have described it correctly. To do it what you would do is order a Moto X on moto maker using your basic phone's upgrade on your basic phone line and when the new phone arrives, do not turn it on. Remove the sim card the phone ships with and replace it with a 4G LTE sim card that is currently active on one of your lines on your account. Then turn the phone on.
If you try it, please report back if it works, thanks.
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Okay, the line with the upgrade available is a $9.99/mo, non-LTE line. If I follow these steps, how likely is it that I'll be stuck with a $30/mo data plan on that non-LTE line?
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This is slightly different, however, in that both of mine already had data plans so I was able to select "keep my current plan" through the bb. In the end I don't know how crucial that was in keeping my old lines on the same plan simply by not activating the provided SIM.
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So, just so I understand, you're saying that the 'workaround' is that you can use the upgrade on a line that currently has unlimited data and then as long as you don't activate w/ the new SIM that vzw won't actually remove the unlimited from the line?
I wonder how long this will be available?
KidJoe said:
I wonder how long this will be available?
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Hopefully until the new Moto X is available on MotoMaker
piccit said:
So, just so I understand, you're saying that the 'workaround' is that you can use the upgrade on a line that currently has unlimited data and then as long as you don't activate w/ the new SIM that vzw won't actually remove the unlimited from the line?
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That's exactly what I'm saying. I used it for a One m8 from htc.com (powered by BB) and for a Moto X from BB.com. both times there were early statements that unlimited data plans are no longer offered and blah blah blah. When you go through the menus you can still select "keep my existing plan". Once I got my new phones, I promptly threw away the sim that came pre-installed and used my own.
Still have 2 UDPs with contact end dates in 2016. Amusingly, I never even paid the $30 fee (transfer, upgrade, maintenance, whatever they call it) and my m8 was upgraded back when it came out.
GreenMunky said:
Okay, the line with the upgrade available is a $9.99/mo, non-LTE line. If I follow these steps, how likely is it that I'll be stuck with a $30/mo data plan on that non-LTE line?
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No one has tried it but based on everything we know, it should work. If it doesn't work then it is because we don't understand how the switch orders work on basic lines.
If you return the phone within 14 days, you are let out of both your 2yr contract and your 2yr data plan requirement so I don't see the harm in trying. Please report back if you do.
piccit said:
So, just so I understand, you're saying that the 'workaround' is that you can use the upgrade on a line that currently has unlimited data and then as long as you don't activate w/ the new SIM that vzw won't actually remove the unlimited from the line?
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That is correct as long as you are ordering from a 3rd party retailer and ship to your home. Please see these threads at AC and SD
http://forums.androidcentral.com/verizon/351917-verizon-how-keep-unlimited-data-get-phone-subsidized-price.html
http://slickdeals.net/f/6964624-upgrade-and-keep-your-unlimited-data-with-verizon?v=1&page=205
Also, I believe the Best Buy Method has been posted on this forum before.
KidJoe said:
I wonder how long this will be available?
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Verizon is actively working to close this loophole but it will require them to completely revamp how they handle orders from all 3rd party retailers - i.e., the switch order will have to be implemented by some mechanism other than the sim card the phone ships with.
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That's exactly what I'm saying. I used it for a One m8 from htc.com (powered by BB) and for a Moto X from BB.com. both times there were early statements that unlimited data plans are no longer offered and blah blah blah. When you go through the menus you can still select "keep my existing plan". Once I got my new phones, I promptly threw away the sim that came pre-installed and used my own.
Still have 2 UDPs with contact end dates in 2016. Amusingly, I never even paid the $30 fee (transfer, upgrade, maintenance, whatever they call it) and my m8 was upgraded back when it came out.
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The best part is getting out of the upgrade fee!
Keep in mind that only BB and others who use BB's check out system like MM do not require you to pick a new plan and the customer agreement says keep existing plan. With any other 3rd party retailers you are required to pick a new plan and the customer agreement reflects that. However, you do not lose your UDP.
Could Verizon audit accounts? Sure. Have they ever? No.
The other thing to be aware of is that only BB (and presumably those retailers who use BB's check out system) and Costco don't have secondary etfs. Amazon and all of the other 3rd party retailers have them so you need to be aware of their terms and make sure you don't violate them and trigger their secondary etf - i.e., canceling the line b/f 181 days, dropping the data plan (which of course you wouldn't do since it is a UDP line), etc.
Wansanta said:
No one has tried it but based on everything we know, it should work. If it doesn't work then it is because we don't understand how the switch orders work on basic lines.
If you return the phone within 14 days, you are let out of both your 2yr contract and your 2yr data plan requirement so I don't see the harm in trying. Please report back if you do.
That is correct as long as you are ordering from a 3rd party retailer and ship to your home. Please see these threads at AC and SD
http://forums.androidcentral.com/ve...nlimited-data-get-phone-subsidized-price.html
http://slickdeals.net/f/6964624-upgrade-and-keep-your-unlimited-data-with-verizon?v=1&page=205
Also, I believe the Best Buy Method has been posted on this forum before.
Verizon is actively working to close this loophole but it will require them to completely revamp how they handle orders from all 3rd party retailers - i.e., the switch order will have to be implemented by some mechanism other than the sim card the phone ships with.
The best part is getting out of the upgrade fee!
Keep in mind that only BB and others who use BB's check out system like MM do not require you to pick a new plan and the customer agreement says keep existing plan. With any other 3rd party retailers you are required to pick a new plan and the customer agreement reflects that. However, you do not lose your UDP.
Could Verizon audit accounts? Sure. Have they ever? No.
The other thing to be aware of is that only BB (and presumably those retailers who use BB's check out system) and Costco don't have secondary etfs. Amazon and all of the other 3rd party retailers have them so you need to be aware of their terms and make sure you don't violate them and trigger their secondary etf - i.e., canceling the line b/f 181 days, dropping the data plan (which of course you wouldn't do since it is a UDP line), etc.
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MotoMaker goes live for VZW on Friday! I'll keep you guys posted on what happens. Has anyone tried this recently? It's been almost a month since Big Red's policy changes.
Ordered this afternoon. Chose the feature phone line with the upgrade available, chose the option to keep my existing plan, and completed checkout. Phone should arrive in a few weeks (hopefully less) so we'll see what happens then.
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Ordered this afternoon. Chose the feature phone line with the upgrade available, chose the option to keep my existing plan, and completed checkout. Phone should arrive in a few weeks (hopefully less) so we'll see what happens then.
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Waiting to hear if it works for you. I really don't wanna loose my unlimited
Got a call from Motorola activations today saying there was a problem with my order and that they have to contact Verizon directly about the upgrade on my account. Hopefully the switch order is still tied to the SIM card and the phone will be activated on my account without changing my Basic phone line's plan. Anyone know what might happen at this point?
Well, I let the Motorola Rep talk with Verizon and they had me choose a data plan to apply to my basic phone line once the phone is activated. I was assured by VZW that no changes would be made to my account until I've activated the phone. If I do the SIM swap before turning on the device, will the switch order still be tied to the SIM I plan on destroying? Does anyone have any idea what may happen at this point?
Well, got the email letting me know that my new Moto X has shipped. Should be here Friday. I'll keep you guys posted as you what happens with my account when I do the SIM swap.
Phone arrived today. Took out the preinstalled SIM card and used the mine for the initial boot and everything's great. Verizon account still shows my feature phone active with the no-4G plan! I'll keep an eye on it for the next week or so just to make sure, but I think everything's all good.
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Phone arrived today. Took out the preinstalled SIM card and used the mine for the initial boot and everything's great. Verizon account still shows my feature phone active with the no-4G plan! I'll keep an eye on it for the next week or so just to make sure, but I think everything's all good.
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That's awesome!!! BTW that is called the Jaycemiskel method and it works as long as you never activate the new smartphone on the basic line.
This is awesome to see because my X should be here Tuesday and I am doing the same thing! OP did you already have a nano sim or did you cut yours?
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This is awesome to see because my X should be here Tuesday and I am doing the same thing! OP did you already have a nano sim or did you cut yours?
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I used the nano SIM from my 2013 Moto X.