I own a HTC One M7 UL with KitKat 4.4.2 and HTC Sense 6 installed. I installed TWRP 2.7.1 custom recovery on it and after that I turned S-Off and removed the Tempered flag and then locked the bootloader but let custom recovery stay there. Can I turn S-On back with custom recovery installed without bricking my phone.
HTC One M7 UL
Stock ROM KitKat 4.4.2 with HTC Sense 6
Stock Boot
Stock Hboot v 1.57
Custom Recovery TWRP 2.7.1
mabaqi said:
I own a HTC One M7 UL with KitKat 4.4.2 and HTC Sense 6 installed. I installed TWRP 2.7.1 custom recovery on it and after that I turned S-Off and removed the Tempered flag and then locked the bootloader but let custom recovery stay there. Can I turn S-On back with custom recovery installed without bricking my phone.
HTC One M7 UL
Stock ROM KitKat 4.4.2 with HTC Sense 6
Stock Boot
Stock Hboot v 1.57
Custom Recovery TWRP 2.7.1
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Yes, you can have a custom recovery and S-ON. However, unless you are returning the phone for warranty reasons the consensus is that you should remain S-OFF. It is becoming more difficult to get S-OFF with the higher hboot like you have.
Thank you majmoz for your support,I really appreciate your early response. I am a new user on this platform and I really appreciate this forum and people like you helping others.
I am on Hboot v 1.57 and used Firewater to S-Off it. Even if I S-On again, wont I be able to use Firewater to S-Off again anytime I want to, This will make me more secure as I may save myself from bad flashes and etc.
Once more, thank you for your support.
majmoz said:
Yes, you can have a custom recovery and S-ON. However, unless you are returning the phone for warranty reasons the consensus is that you should remain S-OFF. It is becoming more difficult to get S-OFF with the higher hboot like you have.
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Thank you majmoz for your support,I really appreciate your early response. I am a new user on this platform and I really appreciate this forum and people like you helping others.
I am on Hboot v 1.57 and used Firewater to S-Off it. Even if I S-On again, wont I be able to use Firewater to S-Off again anytime I want to, This will make me more secure as I may save myself from bad flashes and etc.
Once more, thank you for your support.
mabaqi said:
Thank you majmoz for your support,I really appreciate your early response. I am a new user on this platform and I really appreciate this forum and people like you helping others.
I am on Hboot v 1.57 and used Firewater to S-Off it. Even if I S-On again, wont I be able to use Firewater to S-Off again anytime I want to, This will make me more secure as I may save myself from bad flashes and etc.
Once more, thank you for your support.
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Yes, you are right if everything remained the same you could S-Off again. And there are a couple of paid options to S-OFF. S-ON will not prevent you from bad flashes or soft-bricks. You can look through the Q&A section and see how many of the questions are from people with S-ON! With S-OFF, you just need to be more diligent, check the source, check MD5, read and re-read the OP and don't do anything that you are uncomfortable doing. Good luck and happy flashing!
Don't S-On.
EVER.
Just don't
mabaqi said:
Thank you majmoz for your support,I really appreciate your early response. I am a new user on this platform and I really appreciate this forum and people like you helping others.
I am on Hboot v 1.57 and used Firewater to S-Off it. Even if I S-On again, wont I be able to use Firewater to S-Off again anytime I want to, This will make me more secure as I may save myself from bad flashes and etc.
Once more, thank you for your support.
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I will also recommend to stay S-OFF. Turn back to S-ON only if you must send the phone for warranty repair, after restoring it to 100% stock.
Thank you guys. I wont S-On my device again but I all I needed to know was that turning S-On with custom recovery bricks the device or not. And with help of you guys I know that it doesn't.
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So I had an issue with a HTC One, but I got a replacement! I turned S-OFF, flashed the shipped ROM, locked the bootloader and turned S-ON.
Worked perfectly and looks like new!
Anyhow, during this, I found out that revone doesn't work with newer HBOOT versions.
I have a new HTC One and it has the compatible version of HBOOT so I am in luck.
I want to flash custom ROM's such as ARHD but I don't want to update the hboot.
Does a newer version of HBOOT come with ARHD, or is that something only OTA updates include? Does ARHD stick with older HBOOT?
If it does update hboot,
If I turn S-OFF right away, will I be protected in-case a new HBOOT comes through? Will I be able to flash an older HBOOT version in case I need to turn S-ON?
Is it safe to turn S-OFF right now, and just leave it off, just in the case if my hboot gets updated or something - I can always revert to an older version.
I would also like to say thank you for all of your posts! I am an old time iPhone user for 5 years and I'm glad I switched to Android. There is just so much more you can do.
Your posts really help, contributors! It helped me return my device to new status, without 'relocked' and 'tampered' flags in the bootloader!
So thumbs up to XDA! :good:
rowebil said:
So I had an issue with a HTC One, but I got a replacement! I turned S-OFF, flashed the shipped ROM, locked the bootloader and turned S-ON.
Worked perfectly and looks like new!
Anyhow, during this, I found out that revone doesn't work with newer HBOOT versions.
I have a new HTC One and it has the compatible version of HBOOT so I am in luck.
I want to flash custom ROM's such as ARHD but I don't want to update the hboot.
Does a newer version of HBOOT come with ARHD, or is that something only OTA updates include?
If I turn S-OFF, will I be protected in-case a new HBOOT comes through? Will I be able to flash an older HBOOT version?
I would also like to say thank you for all of your posts! I am an old time iPhone user for 5 years and I'm glad I switched to Android. There is just so much more you can do.
Your posts really help, contributors! It helped me return my device to new status, without 'relocked' and 'tampered' flags in the bootloader!
So thumbs up to XDA! :good:
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I have never update the hboot when using ARHD, I just gave it a flash.
As to updating via ota, the only thing close to that for me is when I did a gpe conversion to hboot 1.54 but I could go back.
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squabbi said:
I have never update the hboot when using ARHD, I just gave it a flash.
As to updating via ota, the only thing close to that for me is when I did a gpe conversion to hboot 1.54 but I could go back.
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It is just in the case that I need to do this replacement all over again. I don't want to update to another HBOOT accidentally through a ROM, and then find out I can't get S-OFF/S-ON and I'm stuck lol.
I can't get my words out too clear tonight! I'm not really sure as of why.
If I have S-OFF, and my HBOOT updates somehow, can I go back and flash another HBOOT?
Then another thought comes, I don't want to turn S-OFF because the thread says may not work with all ROM's, which is why I asked if ARHD will update my HBOOT.
Also, thanks for your AIO toolkit! I was looking for it earlier today. I used it when I bought my phone and worked great! Thanks for that!
rowebil said:
It is just in the case that I need to do this replacement all over again. I don't want to update to another HBOOT accidentally through a ROM, and then find out I can't get S-OFF/S-ON and I'm stuck lol.
I can't get my words out too clear tonight! I'm not really sure as of why.
If I have S-OFF, and my HBOOT updates somehow, can I go back and flash another HBOOT?
Then another thought comes, I don't want to turn S-OFF because the thread says may not work with all ROM's, which is why I asked if ARHD will update my HBOOT.
Also, thanks for your AIO toolkit! I was looking for it earlier today. I used it when I bought my phone and worked great! Thanks for that!
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If you want to go back to S-ON you should use an ruu to go back to stock then use the S-ON command.
I'm sure you can downgrade back to hboot 1.44 but some say you can't, but it worked for the Google edition conversion and I returned to 1.44.
I'm glad the toolkit worked for you!
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squabbi said:
If you want to go back to S-ON you should use an ruu to go back to stock then use the S-ON command.
I'm sure you can downgrade back to hboot 1.44 but some say you can't, but it worked for the Google edition conversion and I returned to 1.44.
I'm glad the toolkit worked for you!
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Ah okay, I didn't think about that!
So an RUU will also downgrade hboot?
I don't want to be stuck with a junk hboot that is locked down.
It is going to work for me again, when I unlock this new phone!
It's safe to go S-Off now and leave it off. hboot updates won't cause S-On
ARHD won't update your hboot.
If your hboot is updated, you must be already S-Off to downgrade.
You are on 1.44 right now. If you go s-off now, you will remain s-off even after accepting OTAs, and you can downgrade your hboot whenever you feel like. On the other hand, if you are s-on right now, and accept an OTA, you'll be upgraded to the locked down 1.54, on which you can't get s-off, nor can you downgrade.. What I suggest is going s-off right now, and doing whatever flashing you want to do.. Beware, with s-off, you can permanently brick(hard brick) your phone. If you ever want to go back to s-on, flash an RUU of ONLY 4.1.2. All roms work with s-off, so no need to worry
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rowebil said:
Ah okay, I didn't think about that!
So an RUU will also downgrade hboot?
I don't want to be stuck with a junk hboot that is locked down.
It is going to work for me again, when I unlock this new phone!
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An ruu should, but if you don't want to factory restore, you can just flash the ruu.
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Currently I have an M7 UL on 4.4.2 with Sense 5.5. Its rooted and the bootloader is HTC Dev unlocked. I tried to S-OFF with firewater but I keep getting infinite lines so I gave up and I'm still S-ON
I'm not really bothered about the S-OFF anymore but would like to remove the ***TAMPERED*** bit thats there.
Also I have a few questions:
1) As I didn't try to do anything else my phone should be fine, right?
2) I want to install the ElementalX Kernel, Is it possible with S-OFF?
3) Can I still update using OTA's?
4) What are the methods to revert completely to stock with no root or unlock?
Since I'm new I hope you can help me with these questions. Thanks.
ss4adib said:
Currently I have an M7 UL on 4.4.2 with Sense 5.5. Its rooted and the bootloader is HTC Dev unlocked. I tried to S-OFF with firewater but I keep getting infinite lines so I gave up and I'm still S-ON
I'm not really bothered about the S-OFF anymore but would like to remove the ***TAMPERED*** bit thats there.
Also I have a few questions:
1) As I didn't try to do anything else my phone should be fine, right?
2) I want to install the ElementalX Kernel, Is it possible with S-OFF?
3) Can I still update using OTA's?
4) What are the methods to revert completely to stock with no root or unlock?
Since I'm new I hope you can help me with these questions. Thanks.
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Removing ***TAMPERED*** requires S-OFF!
Going back to stock: (100% Stock also requires S-OFF)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2358738
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2541082
You can still receive OTAs, but must be on STOCK Recovery.
Waiting4MyAndroid said:
Removing ***TAMPERED*** requires S-OFF!
Going back to stock:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2358738
You can still receive OTAs, but must be on STOCK Recovery.
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Thanks for the reply. How do I go S-OFF then?
ss4adib said:
Currently I have an M7 UL on 4.4.2 with Sense 5.5. Its rooted and the bootloader is HTC Dev unlocked. I tried to S-OFF with firewater but I keep getting infinite lines so I gave up and I'm still S-ON
I'm not really bothered about the S-OFF anymore but would like to remove the ***TAMPERED*** bit thats there.
Also I have a few questions:
1) As I didn't try to do anything else my phone should be fine, right?
2) I want to install the ElementalX Kernel, Is it possible with S-OFF?
3) Can I still update using OTA's?
4) What are the methods to revert completely to stock with no root or unlock?
Since I'm new I hope you can help me with these questions. Thanks.
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ss4adib said:
Thanks for the reply. How do I go S-OFF then?
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Try Rumrunner. Also try Firewater again make sure you follow directions. Rumrunner worked for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2488772
ss4adib said:
Thanks for the reply. How do I go S-OFF then?
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what's your phone hboot version ?
yatindroid said:
what's your phone hboot version ?
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It's 1.56
try different roms and different kernals to get s-off, some people get it on stock, others don't, some have reported first try, other say they had to flash 10 different rom and kernel combinations.
Myself, I did it in one swift move by java card which I had to pay for.
I have Htc one m7 801n htc_europe with 4.4.3 android and Hboot 1.57.
Is it safe to root this android and hboot because i read that some users have problems with this configuration (here and on other sites)? Something special about rooting procedure on this hboot?
boc11 said:
I have Htc one m7 801n htc_europe with 4.4.3 android and Hboot 1.57.
Is it safe to root this android and hboot because i read that some users have problems with this configuration (here and on other sites)? Something special about rooting procedure on this hboot?
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Whenever you root or modify any phone, there is a element of risk no procedure is foolproof or certain for each device. Best you could do is follow the procedures closely and if you have questions get answers to them before proceeding. I do not know of any special rooting procedure for the hboot 1.57, however it is difficult to achieve S-OFF with your hboot.
like majmoz said, there is nothing different rooting the M7 on hboot 1.57. Just make sure you know how to get back to stock before proceeding. Going back to stock will often require S-OFF and like majmoz said, Its a little more difficult on hboot 1.57 and even impossible for some phones. If you don't care about going back to stock (i.e no more warranty) then you'll probly don't need s-off but you will be stuck using custom roms.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one#root
Well, for now i will use the stock, just want the root and custom recovery. I don`t care about the warranty.
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all went fine
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after installing UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.65 and power off the phone starts to restart on 40 seconds after boot... good that i made backup right after install of the recovery
In response to my Q below, a user wrote that if I go S-ON (to take the phone into repair) I can never go S-ON again. Is that true? I've restored my phone 100% to stock HBOOT, recovery OS etc. and I'm presently at HBOOT 1.57 and have locked the bootloader and have "*** LOCKED ***". So the only thing left is to go S-ON. But I'm wondering if this means I can never go S-ON again.
Thanks!
The original question: http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one/help/restore-m7-to-stock-q-hboot-t2999854
kenzorio said:
In response to my Q below, a user wrote that if I go S-ON (to take the phone into repair) I can never go S-ON again. Is that true? I've restored my phone 100% to stock HBOOT, recovery OS etc. and I'm presently at HBOOT 1.57 and have locked the bootloader and have "*** LOCKED ***". So the only thing left is to go S-ON. But I'm wondering if this means I can never go S-ON again.
Thanks!
The original question: http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one/help/restore-m7-to-stock-q-hboot-t2999854
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You can go S On again any time
He advised you should not make it S On
because keep your SOff is beneficial
your phone is GPE so that's had firmware problem after 1.55 locking Bootloader it cant be unlocked if you are on S On that time
if you keep S Off you can Unlock your phone easily
as you know 1st time you need Unlock Bootloader then you make S Off but if you update Hboot then Lock Bootloader then S On its quiet hard to make it S Off again and using root custom Roms etc
IF YOU NOT UNDERSTAND ANSWER DONT WRITE A NEW THREAD ASK AGAIN IN SAME THREAD WE WILL HELP YOU THERE
kenzorio said:
In response to my Q below, a user wrote that if I go S-ON (to take the phone into repair) I can never go S-ON again. Is that true? I've restored my phone 100% to stock HBOOT, recovery OS etc. and I'm presently at HBOOT 1.57 and have locked the bootloader and have "*** LOCKED ***". So the only thing left is to go S-ON. But I'm wondering if this means I can never go S-ON again.
Thanks!
The original question: http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one/help/restore-m7-to-stock-q-hboot-t2999854
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I did not mean you can never go s-off again. Most likely you phone will be returned with the latest software and hboot 1.57 installed and you'll have to pay to s-off. Many here have sent their phone to repair with s-off and had no problems getting repair.
and their phones were returned to them still s-off
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I did not mean you can never go s-off again. Most likely you phone will be returned with the latest software and hboot 1.57 installed and you'll have to pay to s-off. Many here have sent their phone to repair with s-off and had no problems getting repair.
and their phones were returned to them still s-off
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OK just to clarify - it originally wasn't a GPE. I converted it to GPE, and now I converted it back to stock (incl HBOOT, recovery etc.). Btw, in the post I mistakenly asked if it meant I could never go S-ON again. What I meant to ask was if I couldn't get S-OFF again!
But you say I have to pay to get S-OFF again. Is that because Sunshine is the only way to get S-OFF with HBOOT >= 1.57? Any chance that a free tool will come out that works as well?
Thanks
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Hi all. I just unlocked my HTC m7 (GSM) with HTCdev.com and then installed TWRP and used that to install SuperSU. After that, I ran Sunshine to get S-OFF, and then I ran Guru Bootloader Reset in order to remove the "tampered" flag. Then I set SuperCID to 11111111, and I think I'm ready to flash a rom (I"m looking at ViperOne, since I used it on my Sensation and liked it).
I'm on hboot 1.61. Is it worth downgrading to 1.44 so that I can easily get s-on/s-off in the future? If so, should I flash the new hboot before or after the rom? Does it matter?
Thanks all. I spent quite a bit of time flashing and testing roms on my HTC Touch Pro and then my HTC Sensation. I've held off for a couple of years, but I'm looking forward to playing around with my M7 again!
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(...), I ran Sunshine to get S-OFF
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I'm on hboot 1.61. Is it worth downgrading to 1.44 so that I can easily get s-on/s-off in the future? If so, should I flash the new hboot before or after the rom? Does it matter?
Thanks all. I spent quite a bit of time flashing and testing roms on my HTC Touch Pro and then my HTC Sensation. I've held off for a couple of years, but I'm looking forward to playing around with my M7 again!
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Your phone is already S-OFF why would you want to turn it back S-ON? Never go back S-ON, the only time it should be done is before sending the phone for repair under warranty. Going back S-ON is the same as intentionally locking your car with the keys left inside... And even if you go back S-ON why hboot 1.44 should make it easier to achieve S-OFF again? You just paid for Sunshine, you can use it as many time as you want on that phone + If you already have paid for Sunshine, its actually the easiest method to S-OFF your phone on any hboot version.
If I buy a SunShine license, can I use it on multiple phones?
No - one license is good for one device. You can reuse SunShine on that device, if necessary, we however NEVER recommending setting your device S-ON
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ref: http://theroot.ninja/faq.html
Another thing to know is that hboot 1.44 is incompatible with windows 8 and 10, so say goodbye to fastboot connectivity (fastboot commands) after flashing it, unless you are using a Mac, Win7 or Linux.
For your last question, it doesn't matter when you flash the hboot, if you need to flash one. Would recommend to stay on 1.61