[Q] S-OFF impossible after going S-ON? - One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

In response to my Q below, a user wrote that if I go S-ON (to take the phone into repair) I can never go S-ON again. Is that true? I've restored my phone 100% to stock HBOOT, recovery OS etc. and I'm presently at HBOOT 1.57 and have locked the bootloader and have "*** LOCKED ***". So the only thing left is to go S-ON. But I'm wondering if this means I can never go S-ON again.
Thanks!
The original question: http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one/help/restore-m7-to-stock-q-hboot-t2999854

kenzorio said:
In response to my Q below, a user wrote that if I go S-ON (to take the phone into repair) I can never go S-ON again. Is that true? I've restored my phone 100% to stock HBOOT, recovery OS etc. and I'm presently at HBOOT 1.57 and have locked the bootloader and have "*** LOCKED ***". So the only thing left is to go S-ON. But I'm wondering if this means I can never go S-ON again.
Thanks!
The original question: http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one/help/restore-m7-to-stock-q-hboot-t2999854
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You can go S On again any time
He advised you should not make it S On
because keep your SOff is beneficial
your phone is GPE so that's had firmware problem after 1.55 locking Bootloader it cant be unlocked if you are on S On that time
if you keep S Off you can Unlock your phone easily
as you know 1st time you need Unlock Bootloader then you make S Off but if you update Hboot then Lock Bootloader then S On its quiet hard to make it S Off again and using root custom Roms etc
IF YOU NOT UNDERSTAND ANSWER DONT WRITE A NEW THREAD ASK AGAIN IN SAME THREAD WE WILL HELP YOU THERE

kenzorio said:
In response to my Q below, a user wrote that if I go S-ON (to take the phone into repair) I can never go S-ON again. Is that true? I've restored my phone 100% to stock HBOOT, recovery OS etc. and I'm presently at HBOOT 1.57 and have locked the bootloader and have "*** LOCKED ***". So the only thing left is to go S-ON. But I'm wondering if this means I can never go S-ON again.
Thanks!
The original question: http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one/help/restore-m7-to-stock-q-hboot-t2999854
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I did not mean you can never go s-off again. Most likely you phone will be returned with the latest software and hboot 1.57 installed and you'll have to pay to s-off. Many here have sent their phone to repair with s-off and had no problems getting repair.
and their phones were returned to them still s-off

clsA said:
I did not mean you can never go s-off again. Most likely you phone will be returned with the latest software and hboot 1.57 installed and you'll have to pay to s-off. Many here have sent their phone to repair with s-off and had no problems getting repair.
and their phones were returned to them still s-off
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OK just to clarify - it originally wasn't a GPE. I converted it to GPE, and now I converted it back to stock (incl HBOOT, recovery etc.). Btw, in the post I mistakenly asked if it meant I could never go S-ON again. What I meant to ask was if I couldn't get S-OFF again!
But you say I have to pay to get S-OFF again. Is that because Sunshine is the only way to get S-OFF with HBOOT >= 1.57? Any chance that a free tool will come out that works as well?
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Going back to S-on with Hboot 1.54

Hi Guys,
I'm trying to get back to 100% stock so I can send my phone back for replacement/repair. There was no RUU so I used some kindly donated nandroid back ups and OTA firmware to get back to what should be my current stock 2.29.980.2 (Australian Unbranded HTC__039). Ive got stock recovery back on and OTA's are working. I'm still S-Off and boot loader unlocked.
The last think i need to do is get S-on and relock the bootloader. But in flashing the current firmware, HBoot is at 1.54.
Before I do any brash, does anyone know if revone one will still work to allow me to relock the bootloader and S-on?
If not will I have to downgrade Hboot to 1.44 and get S-On back on then reflash the firmware to upgrade HBoot back to 1.54?
I've also read that if there is anything other than stock HBoot and S-On you can brick the phone. But I take if the Hboot has upgraded from the OTA firmware this should be fine?
Thanks
Ali Baba 84 said:
Hi Guys,
I'm trying to get back to 100% stock so I can send my phone back for replacement/repair. There was no RUU so I used some kindly donated nandroid back ups and OTA firmware to get back to what should be my current stock 2.29.980.2 (Australian Unbranded HTC__039). Ive got stock recovery back on and OTA's are working. I'm still S-Off and boot loader unlocked.
The last think i need to do is get S-on and relock the bootloader. But in flashing the current firmware, HBoot is at 1.54.
Before I do any brash, does anyone know if revone one will still work to allow me to relock the bootloader and S-on?
If not will I have to downgrade Hboot to 1.44 and get S-On back on then reflash the firmware to upgrade HBoot back to 1.54?
I've also read that if there is anything other than stock HBoot and S-On you can brick the phone. But I take if the Hboot has upgraded from the OTA firmware this should be fine?
Thanks
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noooooooooooooo, don't s-on with 1.54.
criszz said:
noooooooooooooo, don't s-on with 1.54.
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You might want to be a bit more helpful and actually tell him why not
I would also advise against reverting to S on, because you won't be able to regain S off again, at least currently with 1.54 hboot.
If you wish to send for repair, my advice would be ensure you have stock recovery and stock Rom.
Use revone to remove tampered, and also relock bootloader .
No real need to revert to S on, as Soff doesn't indicate that you tampered with your device as a small number of HTC One were sold with S off
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Ali Baba 84 said:
Hi Guys,
I'm trying to get back to 100% stock so I can send my phone back for replacement/repair. There was no RUU so I used some kindly donated nandroid back ups and OTA firmware to get back to what should be my current stock 2.29.980.2 (Australian Unbranded HTC__039). Ive got stock recovery back on and OTA's are working. I'm still S-Off and boot loader unlocked.
The last think i need to do is get S-on and relock the bootloader. But in flashing the current firmware, HBoot is at 1.54.
Before I do any brash, does anyone know if revone one will still work to allow me to relock the bootloader and S-on?
If not will I have to downgrade Hboot to 1.44 and get S-On back on then reflash the firmware to upgrade HBoot back to 1.54?
I've also read that if there is anything other than stock HBoot and S-On you can brick the phone. But I take if the Hboot has upgraded from the OTA firmware this should be fine?
Thanks
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I am on the same boat with you. unbranded Aussie One..
I had my own backup 1.29.980.17 from TWRP and restoring from my backup made my screen not working at all..
I have 1.54 hboot as well. Does 1.54 hboot and 4.1.2 doesnt work together? Isnt backup from xda is also 4.1.2 as well?
Sorry about asking question in your thread, but I just want to do same thing like you and I failed..
paul_59 said:
I would also advise against reverting to S on, because you won't be able to regain S off again, at least currently with 1.54 hboot.
If you wish to send for repair, my advice would be ensure you have stock recovery and stock Rom.
Use revone to remove tampered, and also relock bootloader .
No real need to revert to S on, as Soff doesn't indicate that you tampered with your device as a small number of HTC One were sold with S off
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I didnt think revone was compatable with 4.2.2?
i too am needing to remove TAMPERED from mine on 4.2.2 i have the stock rom and recovery now.
rotten.monkey said:
I didnt think revone was compatable with 4.2.2?
i too am needing to remove TAMPERED from mine on 4.2.2 i have the stock rom and recovery now.
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It says tampered because you have some unsigned software installed. Probably hboot or recovery.

[Q] [Q} Returning to stock on 2.24.401,1

Hi, have been reading up as much as possible, but am after confirmation before I start trying to return to stock.
Basically, I have an unlocked HTC__001 HTC One, s-on ,with an unlocked bootloader which was unlocked via HTCDev.
It was unlocked after being updated to 2.24.401.1, so I have bootloader 1.54, and an active "tampered" flag.
So, i've been playing with a GE rom for a bit but have decided I would like to get my device back to stock. I am under the impression that I could use my custom recovery to flash a stock odexed ROM suitable for my CID from here, then flash the correct radio, then re-flash the correct stock recovery, then re-lock the bootloader and be back to stock. My questions are these:
a) Am I right?
b) If I am right, will I still have the "tampered" flag set in the bootloader? I'm assuming I would.
c) If the flag is still set, will it affect any future OTA updates I may receive?
d) Does anyone know of a method other than this which will get me back to stock?
I have noted that the RUU for my device does not seem to be availabe to download as of yet, only the previous version is available which has the 1.44 bootloader, obviously, if I try to flash that, it will complain about the bootloader version being lower ect. So I don't think that is an option.
Any help would be appreciated, Cheers.
Clivectmob said:
Hi, have been reading up as much as possible, but am after confirmation before I start trying to return to stock.
Basically, I have an unlocked HTC__001 HTC One, s-on ,with an unlocked bootloader which was unlocked via HTCDev.
It was unlocked after being updated to 2.24.401.1, so I have bootloader 1.54, and an active "tampered" flag.
So, i've been playing with a GE rom for a bit but have decided I would like to get my device back to stock. I am under the impression that I could use my custom recovery to flash a stock odexed ROM suitable for my CID from here, then flash the correct radio, then re-flash the correct stock recovery, then re-lock the bootloader and be back to stock. My questions are these:
a) Am I right?
b) If I am right, will I still have the "tampered" flag set in the bootloader? I'm assuming I would.
c) If the flag is still set, will it affect any future OTA updates I may receive?
d) Does anyone know of a method other than this which will get me back to stock?
I have noted that the RUU for my device does not seem to be availabe to download as of yet, only the previous version is available which has the 1.44 bootloader, obviously, if I try to flash that, it will complain about the bootloader version being lower ect. So I don't think that is an option.
Any help would be appreciated, Cheers.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2358738 Check this guide out
Thanks, but I have read that thread, it doesn't really apply to my situation. That thread is for S-off devices, mine is S-on. And also, it requires running an RUU which for me isn't available. The trouble (i believe) is that when S-on, I cannot run an older RUU than my current device is at. Hence my asking here.
Clivectmob said:
Thanks, but I have read that thread, it doesn't really apply to my situation. That thread is for S-off devices, mine is S-on. And also, it requires running an RUU which for me isn't available. The trouble (i believe) is that when S-on, I cannot run an older RUU than my current device is at. Hence my asking here.
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Run a stock ROM like found in mike1986's thread, install the stock recovery and relock your bootloader ... That's all you can do at the moment because you can't go S-Off on Hboot 1.54 so the tampered flag will have to stay until you can.
Read through this, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2265618 .. there's everything there that you need to return to stock and receive OTA updates while being S-On. The only time you'll have an issue is if you can't go S-Off to remove the tampered flag and change it from relocked to locked, only an issue if you need to return it under warranty for anything that's happened as a result of you unlocking the bootloader and flashing stuff.
Yeah! That's pretty much what I thought.
Will the tamper flag give me issues do you think?
Clivectmob said:
Yeah! That's pretty much what I thought.
Will the tamper flag give me issues do you think?
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According to the guy I spoke to at HTC when I sent mine back the other day, it shouldn't. He said they should only refuse to cover repair under warranty if the fault is caused by something you've done, i.e, flashing stuff or deliberate damge or something. Unfortunately that's the risk you take if you need to return it, unless there's a method to change the flag by being S-Off you just have to either not risk it and wait until you can go S-Off and be sure to remove all traces of messing, or you return it and hope for the best lol
Well, I don't need to get it fixed or anything. Just had me play and wanna return it back to normal. I have done as I said I would in the first post and applied a small application update from HTC, so it appears to have worked. As expected, I have Re-locked and Tampered displayed. Will Just wait for S-off to emerge and deal with it then. Thanks for all the replies.

[Q] Downgrade Hboot 1.54 to 1.44?

Ok so i have searched but unable to find an answer to my question.
I want to downgrade my Hboot from 1.54 back to 1.44. I do have s-off. I s-offed when my hboot was on 1.44 using revone. My hboot was upgraded after doing a firmware update.
So i need to send my phone in for repairs (the infamous purple camera) and i want to downgrade so I can return to stock, remove "tampered" and relock.
As stated I am currently S-off and have read its possible to downgrade if you are s-off, just need to be pointed in the right direction
broli-zn said:
Ok so i have searched but unable to find an answer to my question.
I want to downgrade my Hboot from 1.54 back to 1.44. I do have s-off. I s-offed when my hboot was on 1.44 using revone. My hboot was upgraded after doing a firmware update.
So i need to send my phone in for repairs (the infamous purple camera) and i want to downgrade so I can return to stock, remove "tampered" and relock.
As stated I am currently S-off and have read its possible to downgrade if you are s-off, just need to be pointed in the right direction
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I wouldn't downgrade and s-on for warranty, it isn't necessary, they won't check and you will regret it because you will get back your phone s-on and upgraded to hboot 1.54, so non-s-offable for now. I did it too without any problems.
Just make you phone stock again (install a stock ruu is it is available), lock (not relock) your phone and remove tampered flag (running an ruu would remove it, if there is no ruu do it first because revone won't work without root on hboot 1.54)
BTW purple camera is just software whitebalance problem not a hardware problem
You just need to downgradethe firmware. It contains the hboot.
But as @godutch said, it's not necessary.
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Ok cool, thanks guys, so I just need a flash a firmware zip containing 1.44 Hboot and im good to go?
Basically i just want to get rid of the tampered flag.
Iv done the 4.3 upgrades with supposedly fix the camera but its made no effect on mine :crying: so the only other option I have to try and get them to change the camera module.
Thanks again guys. Much appreciated. You will get a thanks each
you don't need to downgrade. h-boot 1.54 is normal and considerated STOCK for devices who made OTA update.
don't do stupid thing's
i removed tampared flag with revone -t
criszz said:
you don't need to downgrade. h-boot 1.54 is normal and considerated STOCK for devices who made OTA update.
don't do stupid thing's
i removed tampared flag with revone -t
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i flashed firmware using ADB, revone doesnt work with 1.54 unfortunately
broli-zn said:
i flashed firmware using ADB, revone doesnt work with 1.54 unfortunately
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it does but you need to be s-off and rooted for it to work but you don't have to do what you are trying to do and you will regret it later....
just try with 1.54 , multiple times
hboot 1.55
godutch said:
I wouldn't downgrade and s-on for warranty, it isn't necessary, they won't check and you will regret it because you will get back your phone s-on and upgraded to hboot 1.54, so non-s-offable for now. I did it too without any problems.
Just make you phone stock again (install a stock ruu is it is available), lock (not relock) your phone and remove tampered flag (running an ruu would remove it, if there is no ruu do it first because revone won't work without root on hboot 1.54)
BTW purple camera is just software whitebalance problem not a hardware problem
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I had my phone repaired twice and they didn't say any thing about the boot loader being unlock. However, since that I have s-off and the phone needs to go to repair for the microphone not working and I wonder if I could either s-on and lock the boot loader with hboot 1.55? If you have any advice, I would appreciate it. Thanks.
amauryaa said:
I had my phone repaired twice and they didn't say any thing about the boot loader being unlock. However, since that I have s-off and the phone needs to go to repair for the microphone not working and I wonder if I could either s-on and lock the boot loader with hboot 1.55? If you have any advice, I would appreciate it. Thanks.
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not recommended, as far as i've seen, going from s-off to s-on (on 100% stock everything), after a few reboots, has a high chance of resulting in "tamper detected - rebooting" and the TAMPERED sign is back.

s-on

Can I go s-on with the latest 3.62 firmware or do I need to go back to 2.24.401.1 first?
Better one more stupid question then a bricked phone.Do I need s-on to send it to repairing the camera?
jaypeg123 said:
Can I go s-on with the latest 3.62 firmware or do I need to go back to 2.24.401.1 first?
Better one more stupid question then a bricked phone.Do I need s-on to send it to repairing the camera?
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Nope. Just lock your bootloader using revone (it just shows the locked tag) and remove Tampered flag, you won't lose any data (I used Hasoon2000 toolkit for revone). This makes the phone look like it was bought that way.
Besides HTC doesn't pay so much attention to S-OFF, it's just the unlocked bootloader and tampered flag that may void your warranty
Once you S-OFF, I don't see a reason why you will S-ON again.
HussainQ said:
Nope. Just lock your bootloader using revone (it just shows the locked tag) and remove Tampered flag, you won't lose any data (I used Hasoon2000 toolkit for revone). This makes the phone look like it was bought that way.
Besides HTC doesn't pay so much attention to S-OFF, it's just the unlocked bootloader and tampered flag that may void your warranty
Once you S-OFF, I don't see a reason why you will S-ON again.
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Ok thank's I have read about people sending it in with s.off and get it s-on in return. But do you know the drill about the s-on, Is it nessesery to have the original 2.24.401 installed to get it right. I did update it OTA so It is 100% now, just forgot about the s-off.
jaypeg123 said:
Ok thank's I have read about people sending it in with s.off and get it s-on in return. But do you know the drill about the s-on, Is it necessary to have the original 2.24.401 installed to get it right. I did update it OTA so It is 100% now, just forgot about the s-off.
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I don't really know if they S-ON the device or not. OTA is fine since it is official. Just in-case, I would check rumrunner S-Off compatibility with your firmware. And check your HBOOT version as well.

[Q] Is it still unsafe to go from S-Off to S-On?

I just S-Offed with Firewater. I know in the past (maybe in the revone days), I read a lot of warnings about not going back to S-On because you might never be able to gain S-Off again. Is this still the case? I think I need to have my phone serviced, and I'm worried they might not replace it--in that case, I don't want to be stuck with a devie whose firmware I can't ever upgrade.
fenstre said:
I just S-Offed with Firewater. I know in the past (maybe in the revone days), I read a lot of warnings about not going back to S-On because you might never be able to gain S-Off again. Is this still the case? I think I need to have my phone serviced, and I'm worried they might not replace it--in that case, I don't want to be stuck with a devie whose firmware I can't ever upgrade.
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S-OFF is hard to achieve on hboot 1.56. If you turn s-on on hboot 1.55 and above, the tampered flag will come back after a few reboot. So only s-on on hboot 1.44-1.54.
alray said:
S-OFF is hard to achieve on hboot 1.56. If you turn s-on on hboot 1.55 and above, the tampered flag will come back after a few reboot. So only s-on on hboot 1.44-1.54.
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Thanks! So the biggest problem is that people S-Off, then upgrade hboot, then turn S-On again? I suspected that... sounds like the problem with people that convert their phone to GPe, and then relock their bootloaders.
I have hboot 1.54, so I guess I'm good to S-Off and S-On at will? Thanks!
Sure, that's a good HBOOT to start with if you want to S-OFF.
But just to get back to the original topic of this thread, it's not particularly "safe" to go S-ON. Ever.
The danger is not about whether it's easy to change your mind and go back to S-OFF later.
The larger danger is you can brick the phone (for real-- hard brick, truly dead phone) if your HBOOT has been modified or damaged at some point before you attempt S-ON.
Going back and forth between S-OFF and S-ON "at will" is just asking for trouble.
My personal policy is never S-ON for any reason. Not even warranty repair.
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NxNW said:
The danger is not about whether it's easy to change your mind and go back to S-OFF later.
The larger danger is you can brick the phone (for real-- hard brick, truly dead phone) if your HBOOT has been modified or damaged at some point before you attempt S-ON.
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Oh, that makes sense. And I see that, for example, modifying HBoot would make it pretty easy to make it so you can't ever root. So I'll cross "hboot mod" off my list of options.

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