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[Question] Pros & Cons of ROM mods

Hey guys, simple question here.
So far I've seen a few ROM mods for the N1. Which among the popular few are the Cyanogen, Modaco's DESIRE, and ENOMTHER's TheOfficial. I've only used Cyanogen mod so far. Can anyone with the OTHER roms(or have tested them) report in with what advantage/disadvantage one rom has over the other? I'm tempted to switch over, but I don't want to do a wipe to only find out the rom wasn't up to speed with what I'm using currently.
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Why don't you just do a nandroid backup and dual boot? Don't like the new ROM? Revert to your old ROM with all your applications and whatnot in minutes!

You got a point there. But it'd take me time to adjust to the rom and find out the advantages here and there. I thought it'd be easier to ask someone who's experienced with ROM hopping

I've only used Cyanogen myself, i'm gonna try Modaco on Thursday

Well, I've just tested Enom's mod, it didn't entirely feel different from Cyan besides the spare parts and the default configs it's been set. Also, it doesn't need SetCPU installed as Spareparts control that as well :O

LunatikBunnie said:
Well, I've just tested Enom's mod, it didn't entirely feel different from Cyan besides the spare parts and the default configs it's been set. Also, it doesn't need SetCPU installed as Spareparts control that as well :O
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How's the battery life... Cyanogen is raping my battery

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How's the battery life... Cyanogen is raping my battery
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Enom's is what I have on my phone and what I'd recommend. It has a good balance to it. It's smoother enough for me to not notice anything, has enough addons, great battery life, good compatibility, etc.
Cyanogen has more addons and does run smoother, but the battery life was absolutely horrible.
I tired Modaco's DESIRE rom and switched back to enom's within 10 minutes. Sense just didn't do it more me.

With enom i REALLY like the landscaped homescreen, but it works weird because if i were to open up the drawer(That's the one with the 9 icon grid amirite?) and turn the phone to landscape, it jumps back to the homescreen landscape view. The battery seems SLIGHTLY better, but i'm thinking it's just a placebo effect.

The battery life is better. At least, better than the Desire ROM, whose later builds seem to be a bit more battery-sucking than usual.
I've tried Cyanogen's 5.0.1 (yeah, was a while ago), many alpha releases of Modaco Desire, and am now on Enomther's. I'm going to admit that I miss many features of Sense: pinchable homescreens (best homescreen overview ever), polish in certain aspects like search and contact management, the browser, and many more--but the performance greatly suffers. Enomther's brings wonderful configurable options, better performance, and superlative battery life. It's got a few... odd things here and there, like how sometimes in the browser multi-touch randomly stops working, but nothing major. I do like it overall, though I plan to go back to Modaco Desire when the next alpha is released.

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The battery life is better. At least, better than the Desire ROM, whose later builds seem to be a bit more battery-sucking than usual.
I've tried Cyanogen's 5.0.1 (yeah, was a while ago), many alpha releases of Modaco Desire, and am now on Enomther's. I'm going to admit that I miss many features of Sense: pinchable homescreens (best homescreen overview ever), polish in certain aspects like search and contact management, the browser, and many more--but the performance greatly suffers. Enomther's brings wonderful configurable options, better performance, and superlative battery life. It's got a few... odd things here and there, like how sometimes in the browser multi-touch randomly stops working, but nothing major. I do like it overall, though I plan to go back to Modaco Desire when the next alpha is released.
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Erk, the touchscreen is one of the things i get nit-picky about as i own the 3GS. I know the hardware's limited in the sense of multi touch, but i think it shouldn't be any dysfunctional than it already is. I'm going to give enom another try. I noticed i switched back to Cyan because i had already set up everything nicely, and that i didnt give enom's rom a chance to shine(yet) because it seemed bland without Beautiful Widget.

I'll try to make my comparison simple... Note that I am NOT trying to bash on any of the DEVs, I do appreciate all their hard work, each of their ROMs have pros and cons, so this is solely based on what I experienced. That being said, I suggest you should try em all and decide for yourself
CYANOGEN
PROS:
- If you like flashing, and playing around with add ons I highly suggest this, since most of the Devs base their stuff from Cyan's ROM.
- Cyans ROM is very smooth and responsive, and "maybe} slightly faster than the other ROM's.
- Updates often so flashing is your cup of tea. Then you will probably enjoy this.
- Audio Boost.
- MMS interface is better. Black background.
- More choice of Ringtones on 5.0.3
- Option to save Apps to SD or Internal mem on 5.0.6
CONS:
- Battery life is not great.
- Seems to give me more FC.
- Battery over heats with intensive use of app, specially navigation.
ENOMTHER
PROS:
- Battery life is great.
- ROM is the most stable, and has mostly everything you need in a ROM.
- SpareParts makes the ROM highly customizable, so you dont have to flash stuff over. (Enom's SpareParts ROCKS!).
Here are the stuff included in spareparts:
* PID Prioritizer - A slight fix to the Launcher2 lag
* Hotweiss's Radio Mod - which improves Internet/data speed.
* A unique auto rotating launcher with Phone and Browser.
* Built in CPU settings so you can set your frequency without setCPU.
* LED Trackball settings.
* Swappiness settings.
* Statusbar Options.
* Quick Commands - Reboot / Reboot Recovery / Reboot bootloader / Power off.
CONS:
- Less updates. (Enom wants to make sure its 100% stable before he releases his updates).
- No audio boost yet till his next release. But you can flash pershoot/persiansown kernel to get that.
Good Luck!

I FINALLY rooted my woewtp and flashed cyanogen's latest and my battery life is now horrible. I used my phone for 3 months totally stock and I was bragging about how good my battery was. I went from 100 % to 89 % in 12 hours.
But now I've just lost 16 % in 30 minutes. Why is cyanogen so power hungry? I tried searching for similar threads, I KNOW I've seen them around, but I can't find any of them.
Thanks

Asking for a little guidance in the ROM / Kernel / MOD-Dschungle

Hey everybody,
I spent the last two weeks since I got hold of my HTC One with flashing every Rom available, but still I couldn't find an entirely satisfying package.
Since I see all the mods and kind of got to know that a lot of options are available via Aroma Installer I am beginning to question my approach.
Maybe I got it all wrong looking for the one ROM that fits my needs...
But that was what I was used to on my Samsung Galaxy Nexus.
I basically sticked to one ROM for months and applied occasional updates.
Basically what I would want:
Good Audio Quality
It doesn't have to be Beats, but at least equally loud and not cracking like most of the AOSP roms I tried.
This is crucial as it was one of the main criteria for me to buy the HTC One. I want to make use of those gorgeous speakers.
Stock look preferred
I feel that Sense is way to bloated and I kind of like the stock Android Halo Look.
As I am using Nova Launcher anyways I wouldn't be missing the Sense Launcher. I find the Sense Settings Menu confusing, to be honest.
Battery Percentage on the right, no extra icon on the left
Notification Toggles / Horizontal Toggles
Well there are apps (like this one), but they require to display a notification icon permanently.
Power Saver Mode
This one is apparently working quite well...and I wouldn't mind having it in the CustomROM.
But if I can get a sufficient amount of daily use outof it I would be happy enough
Changing Screen-Density to 400 to 420dpi
Doesn't really matter if done via manually editing the build.prop or in a different way. It's just important to me that it can be done withouth making the Framework instable.
Hide IME-Switcher Notification, as I am using SwiftKey permanently
Longpress Back-to-Kill
I really make use of this quite often as I have a lot of apps that I use only once a day, such as banking or runtastic. After using them I am used to killing them, which saves me the detour of going to the recently used apps.
Kill-All in recently used apps
If I have to kill 10 or so apps I endorse having the kill-all button.
Home / HTC-Logo / Sweep 2 Wake
My hands are average size so it is quite a pain to reach all the way up to the power button. (Misplacement if you ask me.)
Something I thought I might get used to, but I just couldn't.
(...seriously, this is what works on the iphone. Waking the phone pushing the home button, while it is placed on it's flat unwobbly back. Hence the HTC One lays better in the hand due to the curved back.)
Some way to wake the phone up without using two hands would be great.
HTC-Logo to Menu or Option to have an onscreen-menubar
I kind of miss the menu button...if the 3-dot menu is just disabled in some roms.
I actually was considering getting the onscreen menubar back and linking the home and back button to apps such as Whatsapp and Google Now solely.
Enough of the wishlist :laugh:
Has anyone any recommendations how to get this jack of all trades stock rom?
I tried the following:
Android Revolution HD, TrickDroid, ViperOne, InsertCoin, bigxie Google Edition, the nandroid of the GE stock image.
PAC-man, CyanogenMod, ParanoidAndroid
At the moment I am running InsertCoin, which is not that bad. But still feels a bit bloated, due to the sense "look and feel".
If I would have to evaluate what bugged me the most and really surprised me on each "type" of rom the baseline would look like this:
Sense based roms:
+ Battery Life
+ Stability
+ Sound Quality
- "messy" Sense look and feel (Settings etc.)
Google Edition roms:
+ Stock look and feel
+ Sound Quality
- Battery Life
- Customizability (Battery-Percentage, Toggles etc.)
Non-HTC Base roms:
+ Stock look and feel
+ Customizability
- Battery Life
- Stability
-- Sound Quality very poor
Please don't get me wrong.
I am not someone who is too lazy to get through all the Roms and read myself into it. :angel:
But I think that I might be missing out on something or just overlooking an option, like a kitchen for the HTC One or so
Thanks in advance :good:
All the best.

Flash the ViperOne
you will have all you want.

Guich said:
Flash the ViperOne
you will have all you want.
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That's what I thought as well
And I tried it yesterday evening.
Though it felt bloated. It's not only the overwhelming sense-like UI, but as well all the features it offers.
Viper debloated and Google Edition based, with a leaner approach to all the used icons would be love on the first sight :good:
Thanks for the immediate reply
(just realized I called ViperOne "Venom" in my prev. Post)

You have to do a choise.
If you like the GE Rom, flash this, but the audio, the zoe function and much more there aren't.
ViperOne is the best rom for the customization

Okay Slim Bean for the HTC One seems to be the best compromise. :victory:
Not bloated at all, stock look and feel, true black theme and all the requested and beloved features are available.
The on thing I was worried about was the One-specific things, such as Hardware Key Controls and wake-options, but they are built right in the rom/kernel combination.
A user reported 22h (100% to 2%) with slightly over 4h of screentime, which sounds sweet.
Gonna try to install a sound mod to increase the soundquality.
Even though it is not as bad as on the other AOSP-based roms that I tried before.

Google seems to have screwed it up with this one...

5.0 was something I really looked forward to...once I got around to flashing it however, man it's taking a huge decrease in the performance department compared to 4.4.4. Here are some of the things I noticed:
1. Laggy UI overall - opening apps, loading, caching is all much slower now - not the animations, just the time lag before the animation/after animation.
2. Bad battery life - is it me or has the battery really taken a hit? Today I got out of the house at 8AM and by 3PM I get the 15% battery saver notification. With about 2.5 hrs of SOT. Before I used to get at least 3+.
3. Unnecessary animations - I do not understand the whole "logical part" of L's animations. They claim apps now "open from somewhere". All I'm seeing is that they slide up now. IMO, it was more logical before, the app used to extend diagonally FROM its icon itself. On top of that, the animations are more laggy too.
4. Colours/Icons - what is with the colour choices of teal, etc. in the backgrounds and all over the UI? Starting to look like Touchwiz. And, the triangle/square/circle are totally random choices of shapes...the arrow, home, etc. were more logical.
5. Google Apps - Google apps are ever-more confusing to use now with a plethora of headings under the swipe menus (i.e. Gmail, Inbox, Photos, etc.). More importantly, the font is now super small...the nice big font in KitKat was way nicer and had easy-to-understand menus. Chrome is way worse - tabs have become "apps" and the only way to switch between them is to access recent apps. No more new tab button, no more swipe between tabs, and it crashes like no tomorrow. Calendar is so-so..it's harder to delete events now.
Overall KitKat was way smoother, cleaner UI, very accessible, but only lacked a couple key features. Looks like Project Butter is gone. An update is fast needed.
The Good:
Dialer and Messenger apps are far better than the stock on KitKat (UI/usability-wise). I really like lock-screen notifications.

(1) Wat? No lag here. (stock, no root)
Won't comment about (2) and above (yet).

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5.0 was something I really looked forward to...once I got around to flashing it however, man it's taking a huge decrease in the performance department compared to 4.4.4. Here are some of the things I noticed:
1. Laggy UI overall - opening apps, loading, caching is all much slower now - not the animations, just the time lag before the animation/after animation.
2. Bad battery life - is it me or has the battery really taken a hit? Today I got out of the house at 8AM and by 3PM I get the 15% battery saver notification. With about 2.5 hrs of SOT. Before I used to get at least 3+.
3. Unnecessary animations - I do not understand the whole "logical part" of L's animations. They claim apps now "open from somewhere". All I'm seeing is that they slide up now. IMO, it was more logical before, the app used to extend diagonally FROM its icon itself. On top of that, the animations are more laggy too.
4. Colours/Icons - what is with the colour choices of teal, etc. in the backgrounds and all over the UI? Starting to look like Touchwiz. And, the triangle/square/circle are totally random choices of shapes...the arrow, home, etc. were more logical.
5. Google Apps - Google apps are ever-more confusing to use now with a plethora of headings under the swipe menus (i.e. Gmail, Inbox, Photos, etc.). More importantly, the font is now super small...the nice big font in KitKat was way nicer and had easy-to-understand menus. Chrome is way worse - tabs have become "apps" and the only way to switch between them is to access recent apps. No more new tab button, no more swipe between tabs, and it crashes like no tomorrow. Calendar is so-so..it's harder to delete events now.
Overall KitKat was way smoother, cleaner UI, very accessible, but only lacked a couple key features. Looks like Project Butter is gone. An update is fast needed.
The Good:
Dialer and Messenger apps are far better than the stock on KitKat (UI/usability-wise). I really like lock-screen notifications.
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Please tell us your method of installing 5.0?
Sent from my Android 5.0 Nexus 5

1. Not laggy for me too. It works smooth. Did a clean install.
2. Battery life seems to be fine.. Did not see any improvements yet..but definitely not a deterioration..
3. This may be a personal preference. I actually like the animations.
4. Again personal preference. I love the color scheme of lollipop. Bright colors and white just works.
5. I agree there is a confusion with Email app redirecting to gmail and Inbox which manages Gmail..haha what a mess. But I can get used to it. Agnostic about the font size change. I hated the chrome tabs which showed up in multi tasking, but I just turned the feature off. Now I have all the swipe to switch tabs, swipe down to see tabs etc.

Even though I like Lollipop overall, I agree with several of your points:
Battery life is much worse than the first DP released months ago. That was amazing. Now, I still have a better battery life while actually using the phone, compared to KitKat, but the standby power consumption is worrying: I get a 5% drop by just leaving my phone in airplane mode for one night, which would barely take 1% on android 4.4...
The UI doesn't look laggy at all to me, but I must admit that some animations are pointless; others are pleasant though.
I like the UI of some of the new Gapps instead: gmail is really well made, especially in the tablet version, calendar is ok and the changes in the other ones (maps, keep, newsstand) didn't affect usability.
At first I didn't like chrome either, but after you get used to the new way to use it, it's not that bad. Anyway, you can disable the new tab view and revert to the classical UI whenever you want
Sent from my Nexus 5

Lags what?? Come on. Mine is running butter smooth like never before. Much much fluid and consistent than Kitkat 4.4.4. And stop criticizing UI based on colors and all. These are subjective elements and opinions always vary greatly from person to person. Most of the people are liking this new UI. It does have a character and feel of liveliness unlike any previous android UI.
PS: And for once in a lifetime, do checkout settings under Chrome.

Odd
Got no lag issues
Battery is better for me
3 ~ 5 are taste choices not issues, i love the new ui and animation
Maybe its time to see if any oem offer better looks to your taste
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk

People if you read all his comments, all items are so subjective. Colors can look ugly to you but not to everyone. Battery would be because of how you use it. Gapps, are made not your sake and fonts that are small for your is enough for someone. Again, post issues that are show stopper.

@OP: Damn right they have. The OTA updates have stopped as well. I think the rest of us (99%) should be receiving Android 5.0.1 or something next month. Till then... no updates.

In chrome you can change the tab style under settings

I sideloaded the OTA and my phone was laggy and had a few force closes so I flashed the factory image and it's fine. Fast, smooth and works.

This is the price you pay for being an early adopter. It has happened before on nexus devices in the past. It's going to take them at least one or even two more updates to polish it.
Concerning chrome tabs, go to settings in chrome and turn off "merge tabs and apps".
You can turn off system animations from developer options in settings, or make them a bit faster by setting the value to .5x
As for unnecessary apps, you can disable the apps you don't want to see, or if you're rooted, you can delete them for good.

I want to say that after week od testing Lollipop (AOSP version with Hybrid Kernel) I went back to Omni ROM based on KitKat. Why? Because for me Lollipop is not as smooth as KitKat. I mean especially animations that are often laggy. Check out for example Play Store. Search any app with huge description, click "More informations" and then click "x" button to close whole description. For me this animation was very laggy. It's only example but I just felt worse smoothness and responsive in compare to KitKat. Even recent apps panel opens slower than KitKats one. It should not supposed to be so. I feel on KitKat 100% comfortable in daily use, not on Lollipop. I like new look and features but KitKat is faster.
And I will not change my mind, I'm not a noob and I can see the difference. I will wait month or two for custom ROMs and I will check out Lollipop again.

rayiskon said:
This is the price you pay for being an early adopter. It has happened before on nexus devices in the past. It's going to take them at least one or even two more updates to polish it.
Concerning chrome tabs, go to settings in chrome and turn off "merge tabs and apps".
You can turn off system animations from developer options in settings, or make them a bit faster by setting the value to .5x
As for unnecessary apps, you can disable the apps you don't want to see, or if you're rooted, you can delete them for good.
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Do you know long did previous nexus devices had to wait for the "polish" it out updates in the past?

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Do you know long did previous nexus devices had to wait for the "polish" it out updates in the past?
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I've been on the nexus line for 4 generations, but no one can answer your question with 100% certainty. It might take a x.x.1 or even x.x.2 update to iron things out.
I would say this transition is even bigger than gingerbread 2.3 -> 4.0 ICS was.
Choppy animations, FC's and inconsistencies in apps are normal at this stage. Apps will update in time. And i mean all apps in general, not just GApps.

1. No lag here.
2. Getting 4 hours + SoT, even on Developer Preview I was getting nearly 5.
3. Everything looks better in slow-mo.
4. Touchwiz is so much more random. Colors everywhere, heavy theming, where as Google has a constant flow. Maybe they just got tired if everything being black(might've been nice in the N6)
5. I always hated the Photos thing, but getting use to it quickly. I can see where Google is trying to go.
The font is beautiful to me. I love it.
Chrome, you can change it from recent apps back to normal in Chrome settings(I don't know if you read the instructions for that)
Calendar looks beautiful, but haven't used it yet.
Now. Remember that Lollipop was JUST released, therefore only the start of things to come. KitKat had many improvements done to it to become what it was.

Curiousn00b said:
1. No lag here.
2. Getting 4 hours + SoT, even on Developer Preview I was getting nearly 5.
3. Everything looks better in slow-mo.
4. Touchwiz is so much more random. Colors everywhere, heavy theming, where as Google has a constant flow. Maybe they just got tired if everything being black(might've been nice in the N6)
5. I always hated the Photos thing, but getting use to it quickly. I can see where Google is trying to go.
The font is beautiful to me. I love it.
Chrome, you can change it from recent apps back to normal in Chrome settings(I don't know if you read the instructions for that)
Calendar looks beautiful, but haven't used it yet.
Now. Remember that Lollipop was JUST released, therefore only the start of things to come. KitKat had many improvements done to it to become what it was.
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This exact same thing, minus #3.
Sent from my Nexus 5 on Lollipop 5.0

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This exact same thing, minus #3.
Sent from my Nexus 5 on Lollipop 5.0
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Ohno, I meant the animations. You see it more in slow-mo. I'm not saying put your phone animations like 2x's slower.
In an Android Police post, they made GIFS of the animations. To the eye it looks like a slide, but in thebGIFS it was beautiful.

No lag here.
Battery is improved in my case ( on avg-extreme usage).
But apps takes longer time to install. But I know its due to the ART , but performance wise its a clear winner.
No force closes even on extreme multitasking.
My device is rooted just to install ViperFx everything else is completely stock.

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5.0 was something I really looked forward to...once I got around to flashing it however, man it's taking a huge decrease in the performance department compared to 4.4.4. Here are some of the things I noticed:
1. Laggy UI overall - opening apps, loading, caching is all much slower now - not the animations, just the time lag before the animation/after animation.
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Yes, I noticed this since first preview came out. I thought it would be fixed in final factory image, but it didn't.
I installed Lollipop with full wipe option (-w) and still laggy everywhere(Drawer, multi-tasking, even opening setting).
Third party apps which have services running in background are only Facebook Messenger and Yahoo!Weather, tried removing them but no help.
I am so jealous of you guys who didn't encounter this issue :crying:
BTW, I also noticed taking some HDR+ shots makes system holding more memory (and never release them).

TouchWiz mimicking, halo, etc... how far can it go...?

Hello...
I am trying to customize my (new) sony xpereia z2, (got it for waterproof), to as close as possible to a Galaxy note or tab, as far as it can go feature wise.
I already have a few floating apps:
-floating stickies-becomes complicated with too many stickies, swiping them to the side, it becomes (almost) impossible to find the one you want, needs a single view interface, for organized viewing/editing , as well along with the float feature.
-floating browser, and cobra - crashes with only 2 tabs, doesn't remember my websites.
-G-player - my floating window will not resize, pretty sure have gone through all the options in settings, it is stuck,
I am aware of xhalofloatingwindow and xmultiwindow.
- is the only difference between the two that halo floats and multi divides the screen in fixed way? or are there other differences in the two that I am missing...
- (also when people refer to 'halo', this is the same thing as 'xhalofloatingwindow', right? or is it different...)
- are these considered 'custom roms', or not bc only partial change..
- also TouchWiz... I have read that TouchWiz mimicking apps exist, and to look here, but I haven't found any names, thus far.
the features I want are: quick screenshot, and editing, and note taking next to the screenshot, in a logged/organized manner. I would buy a stylus too, if found if could find apps or roms that mimick the galaxy note.
I do like xperia's interface, lockscreen, homescreen editor set up, and buttons. It is not so much the interface that I am trying to change, but to get a few more features. but I would change the interface if that's the only way to do it.
another subject - copying images from web browser, (not saving them), this is impossible on android but have read with a custom rom (not sure which ones, all or only some?) it is possible.
also closing tabs in chrome. you have to close each one manually, obviously annoying, plus the fact that they all reopen if you just wait the program. which Roms (all or only some) can help this...?
please advise if you can ...
Thank you for any advice ....

Question Third party launchers on S21 Ultra (Exynos)

Hello everybody.
I noticed there are some issues trying to use third party launchers such as NOVA or SmartLauncher.
Or, at least, that's what happens to me with the One UI 3.1.
I've been using NOVA since my first NEXUS and since then, moving to S7 up to the Note 10, even after choosing to be part of the Beta Testing Program, I've never had problems.
Now there are some laggy and crash issues. With both of the launchers aforementioned.
I don't know if this is due to the choice of using gestures instead on the buttons in the navigation bar (it doesn't look like, considering I tried to change) but it causes strange "movements" everytime I go back home: like the launcher restarts itself, if you know what I mean.
That never happened on my last device (the Note 10) with One UI 2.5: that's the reason why I'm seriously thinking it could be a problem of compatibility with the latest stock UI version.
Anybody with the same problem? Same issues? Or this "monster" behaves like it should?
Thank you
Best
IMPORTANT EDIT: I tried again and yes, it is gesture related. Deactivating the gesture navigation bar, everything went back to normal.

Yup, same issue. Flashes white after the next immediate touch action, blocking whatever that action was. Doesn't affect the stock launcher. I reported it to Samsung through their members app. Had to switch off of gesture navigation because of it. Dunno if the other gesture navigation is broken but I'm on buttons again.
I'm using good lock one hand operation + and FNG to compensate so left and right are still back. Swipe up is home and swipe up hold is recents.

Well the issue is with Google's gesture implementation. I am facing the issue with gestures too and contacted Nova launcher support and they have blamed google for it.
Its true, disabling gestures, everything works fine. I hope someone will find a solution to this.

I used Microsoft launcher and it seems fine.

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I used Microsoft launcher and it seems fine.
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Maybe it's only affecting launchers with the Google feed

I'm running a 10+ on Pie. The native launcher is fast and very stable.
I played around with Nova and a few others including Hyperion launcher. The latter boot looped my stock 10+ twice, back to back.
2 factory resets latter I was fuming. That was the first app to ever boot loop any of my Androids in 6 years. The developer had nothing to say. REALLY? F$$$ that!
Launchers have a very real potential to cause a boot loop. Take any instability seriously; there should be none.
The stock launcher uses less battery.
Because of all the Samsung built in customization plus Galaxy Store plugins and the Good Lock family of apps, the stock launcher is better than even Nova. Easier to use and more stable.
I stopped wasting my time sampling launchers. My last reload was almost a year ago; it remains fast, very stable with low battery usage. It looks and runs great... what's not to like?

blackhawk said:
I'm running a 10+ on Pie. The native launcher is fast and very stable.
I played around with Nova and a few others including Hyperion launcher. The latter boot looped my stock 10+ twice, back to back.
2 factory resets latter I was fuming. That was the first app to ever boot loop any of my Androids in 6 years. The developer had nothing to say. REALLY? F$$$ that!
Launchers have a very real potential to cause a boot loop. Take any instability seriously; there should be none.
The stock launcher uses less battery.
Because of all the Samsung built in customization plus Galaxy Store plugins and the Good Lock family of apps, the stock launcher is better than even Nova. Easier to use and more stable.
I stopped wasting my time sampling launchers. My last reload was almost a year ago; it remains fast, very stable with low battery usage. It looks and runs great... what's not to like?
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Hi.
I must say that you're right: latest UI version in very fast and stable. All the possibilities you can add with GOOD LOCK are definitely a serious improvement. There is a "missing" feature, though: those damn' icons.
I really don't understand why we must be forced to use those ugly ones on the Galaxy Store and why they decided not to allow us to change at least the shape (with the UI 3.1), as this is a stock functionality.
Let's see what will happen in the future.
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I've been using Apex Launcher Classic for years without issue and icon packs to customize (Desaturate pack is current favorite)
Works just fine with UI 3.1
I don't use the Gesture mode

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I'm running a 10+ on Pie. The native launcher is fast and very stable.
I played around with Nova and a few others including Hyperion launcher. The latter boot looped my stock 10+ twice, back to back.
2 factory resets latter I was fuming. That was the first app to ever boot loop any of my Androids in 6 years. The developer had nothing to say. REALLY? F$$$ that!
Launchers have a very real potential to cause a boot loop. Take any instability seriously; there should be none.
The stock launcher uses less battery.
Because of all the Samsung built in customization plus Galaxy Store plugins and the Good Lock family of apps, the stock launcher is better than even Nova. Easier to use and more stable.
I stopped wasting my time sampling launchers. My last reload was almost a year ago; it remains fast, very stable with low battery usage. It looks and runs great... what's not to like?
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I agree to an extent, but the current version on One Ui Home has a number of issues as well;
Freezing whenever you long press on the home screen, so you can't add widgets
Task changer keeps resetting
Why oh why won't they give us vertical scrolling in the apps menu
I distinctly remember there being similar issues with my s10+ at launch, so hopefully be fixed in the future

mtm1401 said:
I agree to an extent, but the current version on One Ui Home has a number of issues as well;
Freezing whenever you long press on the home screen, so you can't add widgets
Task changer keeps resetting
Why oh why won't they give us vertical scrolling in the apps menu
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The last point is true however the first two aren't for me. No issues with widgets or Task changer.
The white icon label lettering irritates me though but it's not not all the trouble comes with 3rd party launchers.

maxito71 said:
Hi.
I must say that you're right: latest UI version in very fast and stable. All the possibilities you can add with GOOD LOCK are definitely a serious improvement. There is a "missing" feature, though: those damn' icons.
I really don't understand why we must be forced to use those ugly ones on the Galaxy Store and why they decided not to allow us to change at least the shape (with the UI 3.1), as this is a stock functionality.
Let's see what will happen in the future.
Best
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There are hundreds of icon packs for UI 1.0 on the Galaxy store.
Not so with the 3.0 version?

blackhawk said:
There are hundreds of icon packs for UI 1.0 on the Galaxy store.
Not so with the 3.0 version?
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Sure. Full of crappy icons and comic-sans-like fonts... Not considering that those on the Galaxy Store only change the stock icons and a few more.
The reign of inconsistency.
Believe me, I would be happy just having the possibility to choose the shape, as every other manufacturer on the planet allows.
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Im using nova 7 on my ultra exynos , how do a activate google feed ?

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Im using nova 7 on my ultra exynos , how do a activate google feed ?
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Download nova companion

maxito71 said:
Sure. Full of crappy icons and comic-sans-like fonts... Not considering that those on the Galaxy Store only change the stock icons and a few more.
The reign of inconsistency.
Believe me, I would be happy just having the possibility to choose the shape, as every other manufacturer on the planet allows.
Best
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Shape? Round, square... -far- less worse than Google or Apple designs
It's a pain sorting through them but there are good ones in there that most will like... for free.
If you're willing to take the performance and stability hit to have the "shape" well every rose has it's thorns.
2 back to back forced reloads taught me religion

Been using Nova for years, and it works just as well on my Exynos S21 Ultra as it always has.

Beefheart said:
Been using Nova for years, and it works just as well on my Exynos S21 Ultra as it always has.
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With navigation gestures or buttons?

Beefheart said:
Been using Nova for years, and it works just as well on my Exynos S21 Ultra as it always has.
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Me too! No problems until now!

I have been using nova launcher on my s21 ultra, since i got the phone ( with no gestures, only buttons ).
And i thought i was having a nice experience.
A few days ago i messed up my phone, debloated the wrong apps and had to factory reset. Since i was going with a fresh install i decided to use OneUI + some goodlock modules.
Boy.. i was wrong about the nova experience. Now i know how fluid and responsive the phone is supposed to be.
Anyway, apart from that, this is the official info from NOVA:
Google has made it very clear that they have no plans to completely fix gesture-related issues any time in the near or even distant future.
Please take note that Google admits to this being broken on their end of things and that a fix will be coming in a future update to Android (stated March 2019).
However, it's now well over a year later and there are still many issues with full system gestures and 3rd party launchers on both Android 10 and Android 11. These issues will remain for the foreseeable future as Google have now made it clear that they have no plans to completely fix their full system gestures.
Notable issues with gestures on third party launchers include:
• Close all/Clear app button not appearing(scroll all the way to verify it's not there)
• Not being able to tap icons for a short time after returning to the home screen
• Animations not being as fluid as expected
Please understand, there is absolutely NOTHING WE CAN DO TO FIX OR CHANGE THIS IN ANY WAY! Contact Google or your device OEM directly with these issues as we have absolutely no control over it whatsoever.
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Install Hexed from the Play Store. Personalize a theme and in preferences check Navigation Bar Height and set it to 0. In regular Android settings make sure it's set to use the NavBar buttons and not the gestures. Install any third party gestures app that you like. Set up your third party gestures app then restart the phone. Then you'll have fully working third party gestures and everything will work like it used to. This is the only way I have found that fully fixes the gesture issues.