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[Q] A few questions

Hi
On ebay one excellent condition moto x is listed.its xt1058 model.I am from india and planning to buy this.But can i unlock it?if i can, will all the functions work after unlocking?also will i receive all moto x updates on this?Or if there are any other problem i can face after unlocking a phone,please elaborate.?
One more question in my mind why mint conditions carrier locked phone are available in larger quantitites in usa.Is something fishy about these phones?
Seller has large quantities like 30 phones to sell all mint conditions xt1058 at and t models.From where such phones come in large quantities?

If its an ATT XT1058 it can be SIM unlocked, but not Bootloader unlocked (unless you can use the Chinese Website/MiddleMan).
The other questions, I can't answer.

[Q] huh? Belongs in "Q & A" section. Sorry, not trying to be an ass. Rules are rules...that's one of the simplest.
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KidJoe said:
If its an ATT XT1058 it can be SIM unlocked, but not Bootloader unlocked (unless you can use the Chinese Website/MiddleMan).
The other questions, I can't answer.
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Will other functions work after unlocking?what about updates?and for what prpose bootloader unlocking is needed?for flashing roms?

vaibhavshan said:
Will other functions work after unlocking?what about updates?and for what prpose bootloader unlocking is needed?for flashing roms?
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Yes, Yes, and Yes

samwathegreat said:
Yes, Yes, and Yes
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ok one more thing..best source or place to unlock it?

vaibhavshan said:
ok one more thing..best source or place to unlock it?
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I have no first-hand experience buying sim-unlock codes, so I can't recommend one personally. If you search the Moto X forums, there are a few different ones mentioned that users claim to work.

vaibhavshan said:
Will other functions work after unlocking?what about updates?and for what prpose bootloader unlocking is needed?for flashing roms?
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While SIM locked, you can only use ATT SIMs in the phone. After you SIM unlock you can use the SIM from other GSM carriers. I do no know what GSM and LTE bands your carrier uses, so I can't speak to how well the ATT XT1058 will work on your carrier once SIM unlocked.
I don't know if you will receive updates with the ATT XT1058 when using it on a different carrier.
There are many sources on the internet selling the SIM unlock code for ATT Moto X (XT1058).
Bootloader unlocking allows you to easily root and disable write protection, as well as flash 3rd party or "after market" recoveries and roms. There is only one source for Bootloader unlock code for the ATT XT1058, and that is in the Chinese Website/Middleman threads in the general section here.

[Q] Dev edition ROM

Hi again,
Is it possible install a Dev Edition ROM on a "common" Moto X?
Thanks!

alrojas said:
Hi again,
Is it possible install a Dev Edition ROM on a "common" Moto X?
Thanks!
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The Dev edition Roms aren't one byte different from the regular ones.
The vzw Dev edition uses the regular xt1060 ROM.
The GSM Dev edition use the T-Mobile xt1053 ROM.
What are you trying to accomplish?!?

samwathegreat said:
The Dev edition Roms aren't one byte different from the regular ones.
The vzw Dev edition uses the regular xt1060 ROM.
The GSM Dev edition use the T-Mobile xt1053 ROM.
What are you trying to accomplish?!?
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I just wanna "transform " my regular Moto X to Moto X Dev Edition. So Is it possible?
My Moto X is a XT1058.
Thanks the replys

alrojas said:
I just wanna "transform " my regular Moto X to Moto X Dev Edition. So Is it possible?
My Moto X is a XT1058.
Thanks the replys
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There is no hardware or software difference besides the unlockable bootloader. When the bootloader exploit gets released, unlock your device, and it will be nearly the same. (I only say nearly because I feel like i'm forgetting something.

alrojas said:
I just wanna "transform " my regular Moto X to Moto X Dev Edition. So Is it possible?
My Moto X is a XT1058.
Thanks the replys
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That really doesn't make sense....but no. You can't.
There are SEVERAL XT1058s. Which do you have? The AT&T Variant, or a different one?
If you do NOT have the AT&T variant, you can already unlock the bootloader which basically "transforms" it into a DEV edition without doing anything else.
Any phone with an unlocked bootloader *IS* an un-official "DEV" edition. There is nothing "special" about the Dev editions except for their unlockable bootloaders, or rather the fact that they retain their warranty after being unlocked.
I'm not understanding what you intend to gain?
ALL Moto X's have unlockable bootloaders *EXCEPT* for the Verizon, AT&T, and Republic Wireless variants.
The only thing "special" about the dev editions is that they keep their warranty intact after unlocking the bootloader. But if it isn't a device SOLD as a DEV edition, you will void its warranty anyways.
And if you happen to have the AT&T, Verizon, or Republic Wireless variant, see the thread in General titled "China Middleman Back" - that guy sells codes that unlock the bootloader on the locked variants. If you pay him and get a code, your phone will be a non-official DEV edition. If you DON'T have AT&T, Verizon, or Republic Wireless variant, you can *already* unlock it *FREE* from Moto's official unlock website.

samwathegreat said:
That really doesn't make sense....but no. You can't.
There are SEVERAL XT1058s. Which do you have? The AT&T Variant, or a different one?
If you do NOT have the AT&T variant, you can already unlock the bootloader which basically "transforms" it into a DEV edition without doing anything else.
Any phone with an unlocked bootloader *IS* an un-official "DEV" edition. There is nothing "special" about the Dev editions except for their unlockable bootloaders, or rather the fact that they retain their warranty after being unlocked.
I'm not understanding what you intend to gain?
ALL Moto X's have unlockable bootloaders *EXCEPT* for the Verizon, AT&T, and Republic Wireless variants.
The only thing "special" about the dev editions is that they keep their warranty intact after unlocking the bootloader. But if it isn't a device SOLD as a DEV edition, you will void its warranty anyways.
And if you happen to have the AT&T, Verizon, or Republic Wireless variant, see the thread in General titled "China Middleman Back" - that guy sells codes that unlock the bootloader on the locked variants. If you pay him and get a code, your phone will be a non-official DEV edition. If you DON'T have AT&T, Verizon, or Republic Wireless variant, you can *already* unlock it *FREE* from Moto's official unlock website.
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@samwathegreat can i flash a Galaxy Note 3 rom? I want to transform my maxx to a note 3. I really like the bigger screen.
Wut?

[Q] XT1058 to XT1053 (Developper)

Hi,
I got the moto x xt1058, can I flash the developper factory image for the xt1053 so i get the developper edition and get the update faster?
Thank you.

Sure if your bootloader is unlocked. All Moto Xs are technically developer editions, the one difference is the unlock codes will not be provided for the Verizon and AT&T versions.

nhizzat said:
Sure if your bootloader is unlocked. All Moto Xs are technically developer editions, the one difference is the unlock codes will not be provided for the Verizon and AT&T versions.
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Thank you man!

cdeslaur said:
Hi,
I got the moto x xt1058, can I flash the developper factory image for the xt1053 so i get the developper edition and get the update faster?
Thank you.
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A few things to consider...
The Developer Edition does NOT get updates faster than any other model X.
The "unlocked ships with XXX Sim" Moto Maker editions are also XT1053 and get the updates at the same time as the Dev Edition XT1053.
Moto seemed to be rotating what model/carrier got the 2013 X updates in the past (going back to the 4.2.2 w/camera OTA, 4.4, 4.4.2 and 4.4.4). Its likely that Moto will continue this pattern.
The XT1058 and XT1053 support different frequencies (mostly LTE), and have different radio/modem files, that could have an impact on you depending on what frequencies your carrier uses.
the CID of the phone wont be changed. There is a chance this may or may not impact installing OTA's.
Your bootloader needs to be unlocked to do this. (You don't mention who your XT1058 is from, and if its bootloader is unlocked.)

KidJoe said:
A few things to consider...
The Developer Edition does NOT get updates faster than any other model X.
The "unlocked ships with XXX Sim" Moto Maker editions are also XT1053 and get the updates at the same time as the Dev Edition XT1053.
Moto seemed to be rotating what model/carrier got the 2013 X updates in the past (going back to the 4.2.2 w/camera OTA, 4.4, 4.4.2 and 4.4.4). Its likely that Moto will continue this pattern.
The XT1058 and XT1053 support different frequencies (mostly LTE), and have different radio/modem files, that could have an impact on you depending on what frequencies your carrier uses.
the CID of the phone wont be changed. There is a chance this may or may not impact installing OTA's.
Your bootloader needs to be unlocked to do this. (You don't mention who your XT1058 is from, and if its bootloader is unlocked.)
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Thank you,
The reason I thought it would update faster is because I saw that the new moto X pure edition got update faster than the verizon for example. So I tought it would be the same thing for the moto x 2013 and the xt1053 version is the developper edition.
Thank you

cdeslaur said:
Thank you,
The reason I thought it would update faster is because I saw that the new moto X pure edition got update faster than the verizon for example. So I tought it would be the same thing for the moto x 2013 and the xt1053 version is the developper edition.
Thank you
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You can't assume that one device (2013 X) will be the same as another (2014 X).
And for the 2013 X, there are TWO Developer Editions. XT1053 and XT1060. They use the same rom as their retail and motomaker counterparts and got their updates at the same time as their retail/motomaker counterparts.
Example: The GSM Dev Edition is the XT1053, but so is the "Unlocked shipps with T-Mobile SIM" version sold on Moto Maker, same with the "Unlocked Ships with Net10 sim" sold on Moto Maker. They all get the updates at the same time.
And The Developer Edition for Verizon is the XT1060, but so is the Moto Maker or Retail 2013 X for Verizon. They all get their updates at the same time.
There was a thread somewhere that listed the order Moto was rolling out the OTA's. It showed each OTA, and which model X got that OTA first. For one OTA it was the XT1060 (Verizon), for another OTA it was ATT (XT1058), for another it was Sprint (XT1056), and so on.

Wouldn't the GSM dev edition get OTAs faster than an At&t or Verizon (including Verizon dev) editions since their updates have carrier bloatware and need carrier approval?
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spunker88 said:
Wouldn't the GSM dev edition get OTAs faster than an At&t or Verizon (including Verizon dev) editions since their updates have carrier bloatware and need carrier approval?
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Actually the xt1053 was dead last to receive 4.4.4 and was first to get 4.4.3

spunker88 said:
Wouldn't the GSM dev edition get OTAs faster than an At&t or Verizon (including Verizon dev) editions since their updates have carrier bloatware and need carrier approval?
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Not necessarily. Take 4.4.4, XT1053 was one of the last to get it.
Verizon XT1060 got 4.4.4 in last few days of July.. http://www.droid-life.com/2014/07/2...e-now-available-to-all-here-is-the-changelog/
ATT XT1058 got soak in early august, I can't find when they finally pushed to users -> http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...pdate-now-rolling-out-to-soak-testers-on-att/
Sprint got 4.4.4 End of August -> https://community.sprint.com/baw/message/837886#837886
XT1050/Unlocked/T-Mobile/DevEd got soak in end of Sept, but I can't find when it started actually pushing to all users -> http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...finally-getting-its-android-4-4-4-ota-update/

Need help

Hello All! I Have Moto X
Model: XT1060
Carrier: Verizon Wireless,
As My Phone Is out Of Warranty Now Can I ask Moto/VZW For An Unlock Code For Unlocking My Moto X's Bootloader ?
Any Help Would Be Appreciated.

David Neon said:
Hello All! I Have Moto X
Model: XT1060
Carrier: Verizon Wireless,
As My Phone Is out Of Warranty Now Can I ask Moto/VZW For An Unlock Code For Unlocking My Moto X's Bootloader ?
Any Help Would Be Appreciated.
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I don't know if vzw provides unlock codes.
But what I can say is warranty won't affect your chance of getting an unlock code.
You should check on moto website.
If you enter the imei number they'll tell you whether it can be unlocked

adity said:
I don't know if vzw provides unlock codes.
But what I can say is warranty won't affect your chance of getting an unlock code.
You should check on moto website.
If you enter the imei number they'll tell you whether it can be unlocked
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Eh, thanks I was hoping to get it from motorola cause sunshine isn't working either cause it requires root, link of a working root method for locked boot loader would be much appreciated.
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David Neon said:
Hello All! I Have Moto X
Model: XT1060
Carrier: Verizon Wireless,
As My Phone Is out Of Warranty Now Can I ask Moto/VZW For An Unlock Code For Unlocking My Moto X's Bootloader ?
Any Help Would Be Appreciated.
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No. Moto will never give out the bootloader unlock code on the Non-Developer Edition XT1060 (likely due to their contract with Verizon), and Verizon does not give them out (for dev edition either).
And with the locked bootloader, once 4.4.4 is on your phone, you can't root it.

KidJoe said:
No. Moto will never give out the bootloader unlock code on the Non-Developer Edition XT1060 (likely due to their contract with Verizon), and Verizon does not give them out (for dev edition either).
And with the locked bootloader, once 4.4.4 is on your phone, you can't root it.
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Well that's sad.. , BTW I found a root method for locked boot loader for vz's moto x on rootzwiki, Will that work ?
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David Neon said:
Well that's sad.. , BTW I found a root method for locked boot loader for vz's moto x on rootzwiki, Will that work ?
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Its likely for an OLDER ROM.
There were about 3 or 4 different processes for X with a locked bootloader, but it was based on ROM version on the phone (i.e. 4.2.2 w/camera update, 4.4, 4.42). Once 4.4.4 is on there, all past vulnerabilities that were exploited on phones with locked bootloaders have been patched/closed, so if you have 4.4.4 on the phone and can't unlock the bootloader, you can't root.
See also -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...w-root-moto-x-confusion-t2826159/post54671918

KidJoe said:
Its likely for an OLDER ROM.
There were about 3 or 4 different processes for X with a locked bootloader, but it was based on ROM version on the phone (i.e. 4.2.2 w/camera update, 4.4, 4.42). Once 4.4.4 is on there, all past vulnerabilities that were exploited on phones with locked bootloaders have been patched/closed, so if you have 4.4.4 on the phone and can't unlock the bootloader, you can't root.
See also -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...w-root-moto-x-confusion-t2826159/post54671918
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Thanks bro, guess I am stuck with a chained phone
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XT1060 Bootloader unlock

Hi just wondering if i buy this phone http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/New-Blac...41?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item280344d421
Will i be able to unlock the bootloader? assuming it's not verizon if coming from hong kong or would i be wrong? cheers

I'm guessing the "unlocked" in the title means SIM unlocked. If it isn't a developer edition, your only chance to unlock the bootloader is Sunshine.

imnuts said:
I'm guessing the "unlocked" in the title means SIM unlocked. If it isn't a developer edition, your only chance to unlock the bootloader is Sunshine.
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Would this still hold true given that this is coming from Asia? or are all xt1060s locked aside from the dev model?

As far as I'm aware, yes.
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If it isn't a developer edition, your only chance to unlock the bootloader is Sunshine.
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Do you mean that Sunshine might eventually work to unlock the bootloader on XT1060s? or is it working right now?
(I know I can check by just running the app on the phone, but I don't own the phone yet either, was considering buying one)
EDIT: just did a little more research, seems like sunshine will work for XT1060s if it hasn't been upgraded to 4.4.4 . If anyone knows otherwise, please correct me.

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Would this still hold true given that this is coming from Asia? or are all xt1060s locked aside from the dev model?
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I'm not aware of the XT1060 being sold by any other carriers that Verizon in the USA. All Verizon XT1060's are SIM Unlocked (aka carrier unlocked) due to FCC 700mhz C-Block rules.
Moto only gave out the Bootloader unlock code for the Developer Edition XT1060. Sunshine will work so long as the phone is on 4.4.2 and has NEVER been flashed with 4.4.4 or higher.

KidJoe said:
I'm not aware of the XT1060 being sold by any other carriers that Verizon in the USA. All Verizon XT1060's are SIM Unlocked (aka carrier unlocked) due to FCC 700mhz C-Block rules.
Moto only gave out the Bootloader unlock code for the Developer Edition XT1060. Sunshine will work so long as the phone is on 4.4.2 and has NEVER been flashed with 4.4.4 or higher.
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i used the motorola unlock your bootloader site to unlock a xt1060 4.2.2 non dev edition, was this customary or did i just get lucky?
kidjoe every thing i know about the 2013 x ive pretty much learned from you, thanks!

hugh a said:
i used the motorola unlock your bootloader site to unlock a xt1060 4.2.2 non dev edition, was this customary or did i just get lucky?
kidjoe every thing i know about the 2013 x ive pretty much learned from you, thanks!
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It was either just lucky, or you used the China Middle Seller/Middle man that was available long ago and not Moto's web site.

KidJoe said:
It was either just lucky, or you used the China Middle Seller/Middle man that was available long ago and not Moto's web site.
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i for sure used the motorola website on non dev deition 1060, now i try every x that passes through, some times i think that site may have flaws