I know an exploit was shown at Blackhat 2014 in August but i also know there was some question as to weather the exploit would be released. Is there any news on that exploit being developed into a usable one for the masses? I am debating between updating to 4.4.4 or trying to hold out for longer for the exploit.
I updated and If I had to do it again I'd wait. None of the root options work and the new dialer is OK but not worth missing out on a chance to unlock the bootloader. Just my opinion.
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It is being discussed at http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/request-help-exploit-moto-x-bl-t2828471
We have no word on any developers working on making a tool or repeatable process based on the exploit for the masses to use.
So we have no idea when, or even IF, anything will come out.
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I've had my xt1060 developer edition for a week now and have taken the 4.4 update. Before I go any further with this thing I'm trying to get a solid handle on upgrading and downgrading firmware...
- What I have gathered to date is that no phones with unlocked bootloaders can be downgraded without potentially bricking the phone, with the exception of the VZ 4.4 to 4.2.2 camera fix due to bootloader revision. Is this true even for the developer edition? Common sense tells me a developer phone should be able to run any version of stock firmware for "developer" purposes.
- In my reading I'm thinking there may be bootloader free flashable updates, e.g. android update 4.3 for the GS3. Is this true? As I can't seem to locate what I believe to be a stock firmware for the VZ edition.
- At this point with the released firmwares being pretty bare there really isn't a reason to want to downgrade but who knows what the future may hold, again look what Samsung and VZ did to us GS3 owners with the 4.3 release.
I'm thinking many of the issues posted are from people cross flashing firmware, avoiding doing this makes sense to me especially for an incremental upgrade.
I have to say that I feel information is inconsistent and hard to follow due to all of the different carrier and bootloaders. I assumed this phone would be similar to my old GNex when it came to flashing but it apparently is not nearly as forgiving.
Finally, am I missing any critical "must know" information?
Thanks
edthesped said:
I've had my xt1060 developer edition for a week now and have taken the 4.4 update. Before I go any further with this thing I'm trying to get a solid handle on upgrading and downgrading firmware...
- What I have gathered to date is that no phones with unlocked bootloaders can be downgraded without potentially bricking the phone, with the exception of the VZ 4.4 to 4.2.2 camera fix due to bootloader revision. Is this true even for the developer edition? Common sense tells me a developer phone should be able to run any version of stock firmware for "developer" purposes.
- In my reading I'm thinking there may be bootloader free flashable updates, e.g. android update 4.3 for the GS3. Is this true? As I can't seem to locate what I believe to be a stock firmware for the VZ edition.
- At this point with the released firmwares being pretty bare there really isn't a reason to want to downgrade but who knows what the future may hold, again look what Samsung and VZ did to us GS3 owners with the 4.3 release.
I'm thinking many of the issues posted are from people cross flashing firmware, avoiding doing this makes sense to me especially for an incremental upgrade.
I have to say that I feel information is inconsistent and hard to follow due to all of the different carrier and bootloaders. I assumed this phone would be similar to my old GNex when it came to flashing but it apparently is not nearly as forgiving.
Finally, am I missing any critical "must know" information?
Thanks
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Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2635366
All unlock boot loader motos are in the same boat, even DE variants
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flashallthetime said:
Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2635366
All unlock boot loader motos are in the same boat, even DE variants
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How'd I miss that!?
IDK
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Please excuse if this has been beaten to death. I've spent the last hour reading and reading an I've just gotten confused. I was heavily into the Android world for quite a while but have been out of it for a couple years. I bought my son a Droid Mini which from what I understand is pretty much the same thing as a Moto X. In the settings menu it says Android Version 4.4 Kernal Version 3.4.42-gfae57e0. I just need to root it. I'm not concerned about flashing ROMs, just need root for an app that requires it. Is it possible or do I need to get a different phone? I must have a root. Again please excuse the noob question but I've gotten a headache trying to make heads or tales of it.
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Please excuse if this has been beaten to death. I've spent the last hour reading and reading an I've just gotten confused. I was heavily into the Android world for quite a while but have been out of it for a couple years. I bought my son a Droid Mini which from what I understand is pretty much the same thing as a Moto X. In the settings menu it says Android Version 4.4 Kernal Version 3.4.42-gfae57e0. I just need to root it. I'm not concerned about flashing ROMs, just need root for an app that requires it. Is it possible or do I need to get a different phone? I must have a root. Again please excuse the noob question but I've gotten a headache trying to make heads or tales of it.
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No it is not possible to root 4.4 however you have an option there is a guy in China selling bootlloader unlock codes I bought mine and unlocked there are several threads on this site so check it out. The other option is to return the phone and get one you can root or a dev model.
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No it is not possible to root 4.4 however you have an option there is a guy in China selling bootlloader unlock codes I bought mine and unlocked there are several threads on this site so check it out. The other option is to return the phone and get one you can root or a dev model.
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I guess I'll go that route then. I bought my second hand so returning isn't an option. Can you link me to a thread?
I feel so lost. My last Android two Androids were an EVO and a Droid OG, I feel so lost now. Had a ton of ROMs on those but wow things have changed.
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I guess I'll go that route then. I bought my second hand so returning isn't an option. Can you link me to a thread?
I feel so lost. My last Android two Androids were an EVO and a Droid OG, I feel so lost now. Had a ton of ROMs on those but wow things have changed.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/moto-x-vzw-bootloader-t2659234/page66
bigv5150 said:
No it is not possible to root 4.4 however you have an option there is a guy in China selling bootlloader unlock codes I bought mine and unlocked there are several threads on this site so check it out. The other option is to return the phone and get one you can root or a dev model.
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What? 4.4 and lower can be rooted, 4.4.2 cannot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538896
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What? 4.4 and lower can be rooted, 4.4.2 cannot.
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Under Android version it says 4.4. But is also says no software updates are available.... Kernal version says 3.4.42 that makes a difference. Guess the question is do I have 4.4 or 4.4.2. If .2 is the latest it should show under updates correct? Or maybe not since it's a Mini and not an X?
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What? 4.4 and lower can be rooted, 4.4.2 cannot.
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Don't give this guy false hope without reading the OP. He does not have a moto x, He has a droid mini. The droid line cannot be downgraded from 4.4 to 4.2.2, thus his only option is to use the shady Chinese unlockers.
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Under Android version it says 4.4. But is also says no software updates are available.... Kernal version says 3.4.42 that makes a difference. Guess the question is do I have 4.4 or 4.4.2. If .2 is the latest it should show under updates correct? Or maybe not since it's a Mini and not an X?
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You should get your rooting advice from this area of the forums, it will more closly resemble the options you have available to your device
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-ultra
VZW droid mini ,ultra, and maxx are all still on 4.4. They cannot be downgraded due to verizon locking the bootloader. You will get confused answers from the moto x owners, as they could downgrade from 4.4 to 4.2.2 and then keep root using some trickery.
While it is true that this trickery would work to on your droid mini if you hadnt yet updated to 4.4, there is no way to revert to 4.2.2 on your device. your best option getting an unlock code from a 3rd party (this voids your warranty)
consider if it is worth it to you
Good luck,
You can't root 4.4 the droid line doesn't have 4.4.2 yet so your on 4.4.
As for the guys being shady selling the code that is absolutely false. Many have bought the code they are very accommodating and helpful. As a matter of fact a few were not able to get the code for what ever reason and were refunded the money. As far as I'm concerned if you want root unlock the boot loader it ain't coming anytime soon.
And further questions should be asked in the ultra section the ultra maxx and mini are the same. The moto x is 99.9% the same but as you can see there are a few differences like they can downgrade 4.4.
As a matter of fact I'm typing this on my maxx running 4.4.2 ported from a moto x. That is what you can do with an unlocked boot loader.
It is possible! I am now the owner of a fully rooted Droid Mini XT1030 running stock 4.4. It took buying a code from the Chinese tab site and a whole lot of help from NWKENT. He should be nominated for some kind of an award. He took the time on a Sunday morning to talk me through it on the phone. He's a saint in my book.
i know our Verizon XT060 has not gotten the 4.4.3 update yet would anyone know when? (only sprint and t-mobile) but since we dont even have root for 4.4.2 ,should i update it to 4.4.3 with promises of root eventually? or should i stay on 4.4.2 and wait for that root. we all heard that 4.4.3 and up will have root problems so is it even worth it?
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i know our Verizon XT060 has not gotten the 4.4.3 update yet would anyone know when? (only sprint and t-mobile) but since we dont even have root for 4.4.2 ,should i update it to 4.4.3 with promises of root eventually? or should i stay on 4.4.2 and wait for that root. we all heard that 4.4.3 and up will have root problems so is it even worth it?
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The new root exploit for 4.4.2 has been released. You'll find info in the "original android development" section. The exploit is PATCHED in 4.4.3
If you update, you will not be able to use the new root exploit. There is no promise that there will EVER be another exploit. If possible, you should pursue a bootloader unlock.
The "root problems" for 4.4.3 have been fixed by the latest version of SuperSU....so long as the developer of the root apps you are using has implemented the new methods. But you will ONLY achieve root on 4.4.3 with unlocked BL.
Good Luck.
P.S. Sprint Moto X users have NOT received an update yet....not even a SOAK test. Only the T-Mobile variant has received it, and you shouldn't consider it a final release. As with all "soak" tests, the idea is to identify any issues so they can be fixed, BEFORE the official OTA is released.
The official OTA will likely have updates not yet included in the current SOAK test 4.4.3.
Well, only Nexus and GPE devices even have 4.4.3 right now, and the T-Mo update is only in testing, so I don't know why you didn't wait at least until the T-Mo version got the OTA, and then probably another week or two before asking when the update may come. Do people really have that little patience that they can't wait 2 weeks after it goes to AOSP and Nexus phones before asking about when an update will come? It'll be released when Moto, Google, Lenovo, and VZW deem it to be ready and not a moment sooner.
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Well, only Nexus and GPE devices even have 4.4.3 right now, and the T-Mo update is only in testing, so I don't know why you didn't wait at least until the T-Mo version got the OTA, and then probably another week or two before asking when the update may come. Do people really have that little patience that they can't wait 2 weeks after it goes to AOSP and Nexus phones before asking about when an update will come? It'll be released when Moto, Google, Lenovo, and VZW deem it to be ready and not a moment sooner.
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http://www.xda-developers.com/android/android-4-4-3-rolling-out-to-moto-x-e-and-g-starting-today/ :/ i have it on my moto g already, i have plenty of Patience, you cant blame people for being excited.
I am currently rooted running Android 4.4 on my XT1060 with a locked bootloader. Can I upgrade to a newer version of android and keep root?
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I am currently rooted running Android 4.4 on my XT1060 with a locked bootloader. Can I upgrade to a newer version of android and keep root?
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The short answer is no. You can not update past 4.4 and have permanent root and write-protect-disable.
The LONG answer is that IF (and only if) you never took the OTA to 4.4.2, there IS a way to run a "Stock-based, Safestrap-compatible 4.4.2 ROM".
See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/rom-vzw-rooted-4-4-2-locked-bootloaders-t2672840
You will have to follow the instructions linked in that post EXACTLY. One simple mistake, and you will either:
1. Have a BRICK
or
2. Lose write-protect-disable and permanent root -forever-
Be extremely careful if you decide to do this, and realize that you won't -actually- be on 4.4.2 as you will still be running on the pre-4.4.2 bootloader and gpt.bin.
Good Luck
That's exactly what I wanted to know! Thanks for the speedy response. Hopefully with 4.4.4 coming out soon, someone will find a way to unlock the non-developer Moto X bootloader and give non-Google/Motorola developers real access to this great device!
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That's exactly what I wanted to know! Thanks for the speedy response. Hopefully with 4.4.4 coming out soon, someone will find a way to unlock the non-developer Moto X bootloader and give non-Google/Motorola developers real access to this great device!
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You might want to consider checking the thread titled "China Middleman Back?"
This guy is selling bootloader unlock codes for the locked variants including verizon. It is Extremely unlikely that a bootloader-unlock exploit will EVER come along for the X....like 99.99% unlikely. Dan Rosenburg, author the the famous "Razr M bootloader exploit" has said himself that chances are almost zero that anyone will ever exploit these extremely well-coded bootloaders.
The China method costs $45, and he may or may not have your code, but its worth a shot! If he doesn't have your code, you get refunded. So no risk really. The bootloader-unlock is permanent and is FAR superior to using these exploits and safestrap-roms.
Good Luck, glad to help.
Hey guys,
I am thinking of rooting my Motorola X 2nd Gen and so far I have found older and more outdated ways of rooting the phone.
I have never done anything like this with phones so I will need some guidance to make sure I don't mess anything up.
I have done some research and have watched many YouTube videos on how to root the phone but many of them show the phone with older versions of Android and in the comments it says that that way of rooting the phone will not work with 5.1. If it is useful, my phone is originally from AT&T and after I finished the two year contract with them I had them unlock it and I am not with Ting. Not sure if that info is necessary but might as well provide as much as I can.
Anyways, my question for you is if there are any guides to root my phone that are current and are proven to work.
I really appreciate your time and your help.
Let me know if I can provide any more information that will help you in helping me!
want the same help
actually I'm also searching help regarding the same... right now i'm n stock 6.0 in my moto x 2014 (xt1092)... Actually my purpose of rooting is moto (now lenovo) doesn't provide any furher updates... and I want to try android 7.1.1 through Lineage OS... Plz help guys regarding rooting it and installing custom rom....
Thanks in advanced
dipeshpatel.1991 said:
I want to try android 7.1.1
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You need an unlocked bootloader for that.
Watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNja2M6zc0
If you have an AT&T XT1097 and on the Android 5.1 08-01-2016 security patch, there currently is not a way to gain temproot in order to unlock the bootloader. We have to wait for tools like kingroot/kingoroot to be updated.
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If you have an AT&T XT1097 and on the Android 5.1 08-01-2016 security patch, there currently is not a way to gain temproot in order to unlock the bootloader. We have to wait for tools like kingroot/kingoroot to be updated.
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There might be a way to temproot, Try using the Dirtycow exploit, It worked with my Moto X2... Till i accidentally hard bricked it