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Are updates dependent on being logged onto AT&T or are they delivered via internet?

Are updates dependent on being logged onto AT&T or are they delivered via internet?
I am on a mvno and the phone works fine. But I can't update. IS there an alternate area for downloading updates or does AT&T only update through their system?

What exactly are you trying to update?
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pside15 said:
What exactly are you trying to update?
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Operating system. When I tell it to check for updates it will not log on.

lightfire said:
Operating system. When I tell it to check for updates it will not log on.
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but there are no updates.....nothing has been released yet

Pirateghost said:
but there are no updates.....nothing has been released yet
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But my question remains. I want to find out if I CAN update being on another network besides at&t. When updates are available. For instance, what does a person get who IS on at&t get when they tell it to check for updates. I get "server error".
Will these updates (assuming there will be some) be downloadable from the internet or does one have to be registered with at&t?

To put it to you simply, if you are using an unlocked AT&T device on another carrier. I don't think you will be able to get any AT&T pushed updates for your device. I might be wrong, but I don't think you'd be able to get it running on a carrier other than AT&T with one of their devices.
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To put it to you simply, if you are using an unlocked AT&T device on another carrier. I don't think you will be able to get any AT&T pushed updates for your device. I might be wrong, but I don't think you'd be able to get it running on a carrier other than AT&T with one of their devices.
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Well, it works perfectly as a phone and for data and it is locked and not rooted. Since the mvno leases from at&t it works fine.
But I suspect I will never be able to get updates so I am considering selling it unless I can find a way around this. Even though it can now be rooted and it can be unlocked, if the updates are only pushed to registered at&t users and can never be downloaded or sent as regular files, then I am screwed.
ANY other thoughts or ideas, anyone?

lightfire said:
Well, it works perfectly as a phone and for data and it is locked and not rooted. Since the mvno leases from at&t it works fine.
But I suspect I will never be able to get updates so I am considering selling it unless I can find a way around this. Even though it can now be rooted and it can be unlocked, if the updates are only pushed to registered at&t users and can never be downloaded or sent as regular files, then I am screwed.
ANY other thoughts or ideas, anyone?
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When the updates are available, someone will post them here for sure.

shogunmark said:
When the updates are available, someone will post them here for sure.
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I know there are no guarantees in life, but in your best estimate, do you think they will be locked in any way (check to see if it is on AT&T network or some other silly stuff) and that I should be able to use them? Is there a post of the current factory rom anywhere?
I ask all this because I like the Vivid, but I only have 3 days to return it if I am going to.

lightfire said:
I know there are no guarantees in life, but in your best estimate, do you think they will be locked in any way (check to see if it is on AT&T network or some other silly stuff) and that I should be able to use them? Is there a post of the current factory rom anywhere?
I ask all this because I like the Vivid, but I only have 3 days to return it if I am going to.
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99.99% sure we will have an RUU available when there is an update. this means it is not dependent on the network updates, but you can install the update from your computer.
100% sure you will see roms on here of the updates....
i wouldnt worry about 'updates' when you are on XDA

Pirateghost said:
99.99% sure we will have an RUU available when there is an update. this means it is not dependent on the network updates, but you can install the update from your computer.
100% sure you will see roms on here of the updates....
i wouldnt worry about 'updates' when you are on XDA
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Glad to hear this. Thought I was going to have to downgrade to a samsung unlocked.http://media.xda-developers.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

If your rooted, regardless of carrier, you don't need to worry about updates. The updates will be provided by the devs. Whether it be an RUU or incorporated into their ROM update.
Edit: Sorry, I should've provided this info earlier. Major brain-muffin. Lol
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ZeroRilix said:
If your rooted, regardless of carrier, you don't need to worry about updates. The updates will be provided by the devs. Whether it be an RUU or incorporated into their ROM update.
Edit: Sorry, I should've provided this info earlier. Major brain-muffin. Lol
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I will probably root soon, but I am waiting for a bit of maturity on the customs roms.

Yeah, that'll take some time. The ROMs that ya'll do have, are currently being worked through for bugs and the like. Seeing as how some were already there for the Raider as it was the first to be unlocked. With the Vivid now unlocked, those ROMs that were for the Raider are being updated to allow them to be flashed on the Vivid. In the next few months we should see some more ROMs get produced as more devs come to the Vivid.
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HTC One Android 4.2 update officially rolling out in UK 'from today'

Here's the full story - http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-one-android-42-update-officially-rolling-out-uk-today
Yet again, the US, Sprint, and CDMA totally cockblocks me from getting an update.
Never buying CDMA phone, ever, again.

nerv8765 said:
Here's the full story - http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-one-android-42-update-officially-rolling-out-uk-today
Yet again, the US, Sprint, and CDMA totally cockblocks me from getting an update.
Never buying CDMA phone, ever, again.
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From the sounds of it you should never buy a U.S. based phone again. The only way you will get these updates before U.S. carriers through official means is with an international variant. Yeah you can probably find hacked up versions that allow the update early but those usually come with their fair share of issues and most people end up still wiping and placing official updates on anyways when they finally come out. If you for some reason ever thought CDMA would get updates early you are far from knowledgeable about how this stuff works. That said, of the U.S. Carriers Sprint has the best record of updating first. Thank you for another useless rant post showing people what little you know of the smart phone ecosystem.

It's only been like this for like........ EVER!
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QQ no update... How many of these are people going to start? Stop crying and go get an iPhone... Apparently updates are a new feature that makes phones more fun.
QQ We are not going to get Key Lime pie this year. Can't wait to get this update to go from Jellybean to Jellybean qqqqq
SHUSHH
Friggin barbies i swear.

That part was just my personal opinion. My main goal was to simply share the news / story.

There is only a handful of things that I'm really looking forward to, quick settings and the one lock screen widget that we get from 4.2. The quick settings has been solved thanks to the great ROMs that we have here, and just because we haven't received an update yet doesn't make our phones any less functional than they are.
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That part was just my personal opinion. My main goal was to simply share the news / story.
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It isn't really anything 'new'... everyone already knows how the updates work.

Um... Hi just thought I would pop in and add another useless comment have a good day
Edit: I just got Comcast today. Made the switch from centurylink.. 40mbit to 50mbit. Went from downloading games at 4mb a sec on steam to about 7. So far I like it but kinda annoyed with how wireless N routers can't handle the speed. Gonna have to buy an AC router..
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In before the lock!
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Fed up with no gps and lack of an update to KK?

Well, after doing some simple att chat support and using my caps lock, I learned that att can offer any note 3 user any phone as a replacement(excludes iphone since only apple does iphone support, and includes the gs5 if we still don't get a gps fix by the time it's released.) As much as I love my note 3 the lack of gps functionality is really annoying, especially since I got my license a few weeks ago. So, personally this seems like a great fix to get the latest and greatest phone for free.

nigerson said:
Well, after doing some simple att chat support and using my caps lock, I learned that att can offer any note 3 user any phone as a replacement(excludes iphone since only apple does iphone support, and includes the gs5 if we still don't get a gps fix by the time it's released.) As much as I love my note 3 the lack of gps functionality is really annoying, especially since I got my license a few weeks ago. So, personally this seems like a great fix to get the latest and greatest phone for free.
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What if you got your phone as a gift from someone who paid off the device using AT&T Next?

nigerson said:
Well, after doing some simple att chat support and using my caps lock, I learned that att can offer any note 3 user any phone as a replacement(excludes iphone since only apple does iphone support, and includes the gs5 if we still don't get a gps fix by the time it's released.) As much as I love my note 3 the lack of gps functionality is really annoying, especially since I got my license a few weeks ago. So, personally this seems like a great fix to get the latest and greatest phone for free.
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I hope you got that in writing. I see them giving you a hard time when the gs5 comes out.
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When are people going to stop acting like entitled children?
Yes the GPS is a very useful and needed feature. Wanna know something cool though? You are on a development site that has already put out a fix in the for of mods and custom KK ROMs.
As far as official KK goes... It gets released when it gets released.
You have the opportunity, option and ability to fix the issues you have yourself, but seem to be too lazy to do so.
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graydiggy said:
When are people going to stop acting like entitled children?
Yes the GPS is a very useful and needed feature. Wanna know something cool though? You are on a development site that has already put out a fix in the for of mods and custom KK ROMs.
As far as official KK goes... It gets released when it gets released.
You have the opportunity, option and ability to fix the issues you have yourself, but seem to be too lazy to do so.
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Well many people don't want to void there warranty or don't want to risk messing up. I haven't got any issues with my GPS when I use it. But if they offer me the HTC M8(New one coming soon) I'll be happy to get that.
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It is also very easy to return back to stock...
What's the issue here?
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graydiggy said:
When are people going to stop acting like entitled children?
Yes the GPS is a very useful and needed feature. Wanna know something cool though? You are on a development site that has already put out a fix in the for of mods and custom KK ROMs.
As far as official KK goes... It gets released when it gets released.
You have the opportunity, option and ability to fix the issues you have yourself, but seem to be too lazy to do so.
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That's such a terrible outlook to have. It's like "I am okay with MNCs not being accountable for their actions and their inability to do stuff within a timely manner. People are just being spoiled, it's not like they spent good $ on a device." Not everyone roots devices. Voiding warranties is not cool for everyone. So pipe down.

Well then why are people here on this site?
This is a development site. Not a ***** and moan site, not a social network, not a support site.
99% of the people on this site have a rooted device, so that logic is out the window.
If you don't have a rooted device, oh well. I don't care and you have no place here especially if you are going to complain about stuff.
I say this again, there are fixes in the form of mods and custom ROMs. If you don't want them, that is fine. However, if you really don't want the fixes we have provided for FREE, then go away and quit complaining to us. We don't care.
AT&T will fix and release stuff when they are ready. You do not pay them for what is on the device. You pay them for cellular service and data. You don't pay for GPS, so acting like you are entitled to it being fixed by them is completely null and void especially since the GPS software and hardware isn't even developed by them.
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Well said sir!
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graydiggy said:
AT&T will fix and release stuff when they are ready. You do not pay them for what is on the device. You pay them for cellular service and data. You don't pay for GPS, so acting like you are entitled to it being fixed by them is completely null and void especially since the GPS software and hardware isn't even developed by them.
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Going to have to disagree with you here. Hey you don't pay for the screen on your phone but you do expect it to turn on don't you. The gps is no different than any other function of the phone. It is listed under the detailed specs of both at&t and Samsung's website and should be expected to work out of the box with out tweaking anything. At&t modified the software running on the phone and broke the gps while doing it.
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I'll agree with that on a few points. But all they can and really have to do at this point is replace the unit with a refurb. Patience is needed. *****ing about things on this site will do nothing to make AT&T fix it and it pisses people off.
They will fix it when and if they fix it.
I see a ton of users on XDA that expect things. That's not how it works here and is one of the reasons a lot of very reputable devs have jumped ship.
Entitlement has hurt our community.
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I think what you're missing is that the OP is not complaining here, but providing a potential solution (assuming it is accurate). Truthfully, your posts look more like whining than the OP's. Your comment regarding "entitlement" is off base. Is it not reasonable to expect the device to work? The purpose of development here is not (primarily anyway) to fix broken features, but to improve or add features. Another purpose of this forum is information (both to give and receive).
That being said, I appreciate your frustration.
graydiggy said:
I'll agree with that on a few points. But all they can and really have to do at this point is replace the unit with a refurb. Patience is needed. *****ing about things on this site will do nothing to make AT&T fix it and it pisses people off.
They will fix it when and if they fix it.
I see a ton of users on XDA that expect things. That's not how it works here and is one of the reasons a lot of very reputable devs have jumped ship.
Entitlement has hurt our community.
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graydiggy said:
When are people going to stop acting like entitled children?
Yes the GPS is a very useful and needed feature. Wanna know something cool though? You are on a development site that has already put out a fix in the for of mods and custom KK ROMs.
As far as official KK goes... It gets released when it gets released.
You have the opportunity, option and ability to fix the issues you have yourself, but seem to be too lazy to do so.
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Just with my luck, when I got ready to flash a room and get the gps fix, my computer decides to take a nosedive. It's gonna take me a minute to get another one, as I'm in the middle of more pressing things (money wise).
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graydiggy said:
Well then why are people here on this site?
This is a development site. Not a ***** and moan site, not a social network, not a support site.
99% of the people on this site have a rooted device, so that logic is out the window.
If you don't have a rooted device, oh well. I don't care and you have no place here especially if you are going to complain about stuff.
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I bet this statistic is far from true with newer devices. I'm sure the purveyors of the site would be happy to run all of us and their ad revenue off because we don't feel the need to root our devices anymore. This isn't WinMo 5, this isn't even Android 2.x, most recent Android devices can be pretty decent with no specific modifications to the software environment.
graydiggy said:
AT&T will fix and release stuff when they are ready. You do not pay them for what is on the device. You pay them for cellular service and data. You don't pay for GPS, so acting like you are entitled to it being fixed by them is completely null and void especially since the GPS software and hardware isn't even developed by them.
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The GPS libraries HAVE been modified by AT&T. That's pretty apparent since all the other branded and unbranded models work. What isn't necessarily apparent is if AT&T knows exactly how they broke it. I for instance did pay for the device to be fully functional as advertised. GPS functionality is listed on the box and I would consider it to be part of my $750 purchase.
I appreciate you're a BA mobile developer or tinkerer, but the only person here with a sense of entitlement is you. If you're attempting to usher in a new era of "if you aren't a developer, scram!" on XDA you aren't the first and won't be the last but I can assure you none of those who act that way do it successfully.

Lol at buying a device and expecting the gps to work is "entitlement" attitude.....
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paniro187 said:
Lol at buying a device and expecting the gps to work is "entitlement" attitude.....
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That poster should work for a car company... "Oh you want your new car to run as well as sit in your garage? Who DO YOU think you are!?"

what gps issue?
maybe cus I don't use Google map?
I use Scout navagation, gps is perfectly fine on att note3.

people might be lazy but if att is willing to give you something for free who are we to say no to free?
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Hey they can keep kitkat I will take a M8 till the 1+ comes out. No more Samsung products for me!
Now watch KK will start rolling out before they make it to the stores.

Trying to exchange my phone. Apparently the first rep. that I had was really nice. Right now they are saying that they can move me to an early upgrade for another line as compensation.

Galaxy S5 Play edition

Apparently a play edition of the S5 is coming pretty soon since google started changing it's images on the listing for the S4 to images from the S5
I'm switching to their rom the day it gets ripped and posted for us to download
who else?

I was just about to post this. Yes it looks like it is imminent.
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Yeah, and the rom from that phone should be an awesome one, all the features, none of the bloatware ^_^

Crap. I was hoping for this yesterday. I made a huge mistake on accepting some update that hit the phone today. It's about 42MB but nothing huge changed it appears. Looks like it was just for the screen casting dongle.

goodboynyc said:
Crap. I was hoping for this yesterday. I made a huge mistake on accepting some update that hit the phone today. It's about 42MB but nothing huge changed it appears. Looks like it was just for the screen casting dongle.
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how exactly is this a mistake?

Woo! Should get to keep our fingerprint scanner and get rid off TW!
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WarDrake said:
how exactly is this a mistake?
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I'm not sure if i can root with it now. I'm, assuming this update patched some exploits.

declan8888 said:
Woo! Should get to keep our fingerprint scanner and get rid off TW!
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exactly what i was thinking
plus we still get to keep all the S health functionality, since it's a selling point for the device, i like my pedometer
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I'm not sure if i can root with it now. I'm, assuming this update patched some exploits.
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while there are bug fixes, i highly doubt they'll patch the particular exploit that allows us to root, and if they do, Chainfire will find another exploit in a matter of days, specially since the kernel source is available, so you'll always be able to root, don't worry about that.

I took a plunge and I managed to root the device with ChainFire. Now to wait for the GS5 Playstore edition

I wonder if all of those S5 models will make the porting of the playstore version harder?
Also, what's up with all those versions? Are they baseband-related only (aside from the ones with different processors)?

Sprint beats Verizon again by pushing 5.1 updates

Maybe we'll see this in a few weeks...
http://www.androidcentral.com/android-51-rolling-out-samsung-galaxy-s6-and-galaxy-s6-edge-sprint

Sprint has always beaten verizon and at&t in updates, Tmobile is first then sprint.

Verizon has to integrate and test their advanced calling features first. So they always take longer than the others, even in the best case.

JasonJoel said:
Verizon has to integrate and test their advanced calling features first. So they always take longer than the others, even in the best case.
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It's not that that takes Verizon so long, it's all the bloatware apps they have to update
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That's another theory, but that doesn't seem right as the nexus 6 took a while and it has almost no new bloat that hadn't already been ported to 5.x.
Which points the finger back to advanced calling features.

There was a small Verizon update today
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...ctivation-lock-enable-roaming-in-puerto-rico/
Just wondering if this patched the exploit? I ask because if this did then there is no reason to buy the phone for me now.

T-mobile and sprint have quicker updates, I prefer to have reliable service.
I heard rumors of Verizon allowing unlocked phones on their network. Hopefully, we'll be able to use 4G phone with compatible antenas in the future, this way we won't be dependent on Vzw's updates and crappy apps
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What about 5.1 do you care so much about? Who cares if they got it out first? Verizon still has twice the network.

Doesn't 5.1 patch the memory leak? Even with the latest update after a while of using many apps I feel like the phone slows down at times, and a reboot fixes that.

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What about 5.1 do you care so much about? Who cares if they got it out first? Verizon still has twice the network.
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From what I heard, memory leak is fixed and it includes some extras features to the camera such as support for raw files and swipe u up or down l the screen to control exposure I think.
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Not worth losing root, possibly permanently!
Have 5.1.1 on TMO S6. Couldn't care less about raw support. That's what the D810 is for!
And the memory management, calling it that, is just as bad.
IMHO, Lollipop is the Windows Vista of Android.
I have a Nexus 6 and while it's better on that phone, I do miss 4.4.4. The Note 4 with 4.4.4 was butter. Providing it was a non VZW one!

So do we know how far off we are from 5.1?

mjs2011 said:
So do we know how far off we are from 5.1?
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In 4 days at 12:43 pm
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Dri94 said:
In 4 days at 12:43 pm
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LOL

So I'm guessing behind the sarcasm, the answer is that we don't know.

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So I'm guessing behind the sarcasm, the answer is that we don't know.
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The answer is that, no, no one ever knows. Unless a tech leaks information that they got a memo...the best notice you usually can expect from that is a few days.

i would love to live in a world where i can have the best network AND just relatively timely updates but that option is yet to exist.

Just like most ROMS, never ask for an ETA. Jk. I was about to post asking if anyone had heard any rumors of a timeframe, then I saw this thread, so I'm guessing no ones heard anything.
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merlin66676 said:
Just like most ROMS, never ask for an ETA. Jk. I was about to post asking if anyone had heard any rumors of a timeframe, then I saw this thread, so I'm guessing no ones heard anything.
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Correct! VZ never leaks dates or ROMs.

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Correct! VZ never leaks dates or ROMs.
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ooh they leak. i have installed many leaked updates from Verizon and on a few occasions they were difficult to get out of as they changed their mind and did not release it and so the official would not update you from the leaked as it wasnt supposed to be out.