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Doesn't anyone find it odd that we are paying out huge sums of cash for a Linux based OS that is free to use?
Because the cost of the handset doesn't factor into it at all :face palms:
I mean they handed us a broken toy and we fixed it for them with no pay and they sold it back to us as an update, now we are fixing it up more. Hopefully when Android 114.6 rolls out some devs. will for a union of some kind and make some cash from big business instead of settling for the 2.99 that their brothers and sisters are downloading.
Next time put the bong down and think before posting.
Here's your basic argument in another context:
The internet is free so why do we spend so much money on computers to browse web pages?
You fail. Thanks for playing.
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chelsea19 said:
I mean they handed us a broken toy and we fixed it for them with no pay and they sold it back to us as an update, now we are fixing it up more. Hopefully when Android 114.6 rolls out some devs. will for a union of some kind and make some cash from big business instead of settling for the 2.99 that their brothers and sisters are downloading.
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But no one asked you to fix it...?
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Because the cost of the handset doesn't factor into it at all :face palms:
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Oh, no kidding, I had totally forgotten that hardware costs money somewhere on the road to neverland .
Compare prices for free vs paid OS on the same specs. Shouldn't there be a decent difference between the two?
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But no one asked you to fix it...?
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True but shouldn't the devs. get what they deserve?
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Kiserai said:
Next time put the bong down and think before posting.
Here's your basic argument in another context:
The internet is free so why do we spend so much money on computers to browse web pages?
You fail. Thanks for playing.
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You fail, pretty damn horribly when you buy computers specifically, I have bought every computer I have ever owned without an OS and it has been cheaper than one with it.
chelsea19 said:
True but shouldn't the devs. get what they deserve?
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OK this whole line of "logic" is just not workin. You might wanna cut bait on this one.
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OK this whole line of "logic" is just not workin. You might wanna cut bait on this one.
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Ok we whatever, I just got an Android phone and I hate it so I'm gonna get something windows. This is my first experience with Linux on a handset and if the developers wanna get screwed let them, forming union isn't hard we did it where I work, well we joined one but it makes everything a dev does worth money. Good way to make a living.
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And the hurr durr thread of the day goes to-
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And another person is born that we all would have been better of without.
chelsea19 said:
Ok we whatever, I just got an Android phone and I hate it so I'm gonna get something windows. This is my first experience with Linux on a handset and if the developers wanna get screwed let them, forming union isn't hard we did it where I work, well we joined one but it makes everything a dev does worth money. Good way to make a living.
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But who is it that decides the devs have been screwed. Is it you? I think that honor goes to each individual who bought the phone. You don't get to determine that someone else has been screwed just because your panties are in a bunch over something related to your phone.
The cost of a non open source operating system on a phone is going to be so heavily subsidized, I'd be surprised if the additional cost was more than a couple of dollars/pounds/whatever. Bottom line is that you're just paying for the device whichever route you take.
Also consider how long android has been out, it is definitely the quickest maturing mobile platform around. Anyone remember the state wm was in at this age?
Edit: I think the developers would rather be "screwed" as you put it in order to bring about progress in a timely manner. That's what open source is all about!
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mrbishi said:
The cost of a non open source operating system on a phone is going to be so heavily subsidized, I'd be surprised if the additional cost was more than a couple of dollars/pounds/whatever. Bottom line is that you're just paying for the device whichever route you take.
Also consider how long android has been out, it is definitely the quickest maturing mobile platform around. Anyone remember the state wm was in at this age?
Edit: I think the developers would rather be "screwed" as you put it in order to bring about progress in a timely manner. That's what open source is all about!
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Well said, I see and understand your point, thanks.
mrbishi said:
I think the developers would rather be "screwed" as you put it in order to bring about progress in a timely manner. That's what open source is all about!
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First off, that's a toaster I want.
Second off, you're absolutely right. It's not about the money, it's about taking your phone to the next level and being able to say you were the one who got it there first. I and thousands of others have nothing but respect for these developers and a lot of us give them both props and donations for their work. I'm sure the donations are nice, but I doubt there are many devs on XDA who started writing ROMs and compiling kernels because they thought it would make them rich.
Don't understate the motivational power of random people coming into your thread to say "Your work is awesome, keep it up, and how cool would it be if it did this too?" For some people the respect is all they need, since genuine respect can't be bought, it can only be earned.
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And another person is born that we all would have been better of without.
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Wow, someone is either grumpy or cant take a joke...
You'd expect to pay money for a computer with no OS wouldnt you...
Well the same goes in this case my guessing.
Id rather have 1000's of people thanking me for my work than a few £100 in the bank if i was a dev....
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Ok we whatever, I just got an Android phone and I hate it so I'm gonna get something windows. This is my first experience with Linux on a handset and if the developers wanna get screwed let them, forming union isn't hard we did it where I work, well we joined one but it makes everything a dev does worth money. Good way to make a living.
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WOW. if you think unions are the answer, you have bigger problems than just android.
OMG guys I was scrolling and I thought I saw Llama's picture. ='[
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OMG guys I was scrolling and I thought I saw Llama's picture. ='[
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Lol..same here
But I really cannot seem to find many keyloggers for the android, or anything that seems comfortably reliable.
I'll spare you the laments of a jealous girlfriend, and I merely leave this at "advice please".
Thank you.
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But I really cannot seem to find many keyloggers for the android, or anything that seems comfortably reliable.
I'll spare you the laments of a jealous girlfriend, and I merely leave this at "advice please".
Thank you.
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Here is a website full of info http://www.parentalcontrolapps.com/iphone-parental-controls/cellphone-keylogger/
droiderisuser said:
Here is a website full of info http://www.parentalcontrolapps.com/iphone-parental-controls/cellphone-keylogger/
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Man, that's so expensive T_T
And to the OP, I know what you feel
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But I really cannot seem to find many keyloggers for the android, or anything that seems comfortably reliable.
I'll spare you the laments of a jealous girlfriend, and I merely leave this at "advice please".
Thank you.
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I'm going to regret this, but I'm going to give you some free advice:
You need to either break up with him or decide you're willing to sit down talk it out and trust him. A keylogger isn't the answer. He will discover your deception and it will destroy any chance you have of salvaging the relationship up. If you think the relationship isn't worth salvaging then just break up and save your money, its not worth being in if its not worth saving.
Reference/Experience: Psychologist.
Keylogger? May we ask why....? Good luck in whatever you are doing.... -.-...
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Delvaris said:
I'm going to regret this, but I'm going to give you some free advice:
You need to either break up with him or decide you're willing to sit down talk it out and trust him. A keylogger isn't the answer. He will discover your deception and it will destroy any chance you have of salvaging the relationship up. If you think the relationship isn't worth salvaging then just break up and save your money, its not worth being in if its not worth saving.
Reference/Experience: Psychologist.
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I'm going to regret this too, but +1.
One of my bosses' kids are at the age (teenagers) where they are wanting Smart Phones now.
He actually has stated that he doesn't feel comfortable just letting them have em, if he doesn't have some kind of keylogging app, or a keyboard that sends data to someplace where he can monitor, just in case. Especially for his daughter.
I feel for him, but I KNOW a lot of people would use it for the wrong reasons.
This shouldn't really be a taboo topic.
And I hate to say it, but suggesting 'breaking up' or a 'psychologist' doesn't really help with the Android App question that she had.
I have been looking for a solution to this too for a while, OP, and have found nothing.
Sometimes it's not about living out your jealousy, sometimes it's about PROVING that someone is a liar, because they are doing it to all of their friends and family, and it's TIME for someone to be smarter than they are.
Just saying. Even though I'm a guy.
I'll still be watching this topic, just in case someone has something helpful to post.
ignore this i'll just try and earn money for this purchase.
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If this is not allowed here on XDA i will delete it in a heartbeat. but hopefully here in off topic it is kosher
http://Laptops.Megafreebie.com?referral=28626
is my link i need 28 people to sign up and do one just on offer many of which are free.
I don't have much to offer in return but thanks, maybe some google+ invites(not that those are rare anymore), and maybe even some light cash(albeit probably very light) but i have signed up for the site and haven't gotten spam, so if you do a free offer and help me it would be awesome.
i'm in college studying architecture and this would be a huge help over my inspiron e1705 from 4 years ago
If you are willing to do it for nothing i will be eternally grateful
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You have better luck finding a job...lol (not trying to be a 8===D)
But good luck anyway, I wouldn't sign up for a site like that, seems to easy, if it's too good to be true, it usually is.
what makes it not too good to be true is the hassle of having to get others to buy into the idea, and actually doing offers, it's all advertising. for sites like intuit, gamefly etc.
but i do understand not wanting to deal with it.
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what makes it not too good to be true is the hassle of having to get others to buy into the idea, and actually doing offers, it's all advertising. for sites like intuit, gamefly etc.
but i do understand not wanting to deal with it.
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You can't find 28 friends? lol I'm sure they would be more willing to help than a random people here?
this is true, but because they are my friends i'd rather not hassle them about it, instead i can roll the dice here and see if anyone here is up to it
at least i'm being honest about it right?
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this is true, but because they are my friends i'd rather not hassle them about it, instead i can roll the dice here and see if anyone here is up to it
at least i'm being honest about it right?
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Yeah, I feels, good luck. You should just go read the rules real quick and make sure this is even allowed. They aren't that long
i did and i think i am clear, though this could be boarder line spamming i suppose or advertising... if interpreted as such i will delete it.
I will leave it for now...but I am keeping my eyes on it.
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I will leave it for now...but I am keeping my eyes on it.
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thank you, let me know and i'll change the post to something worthy of an off topic post
a warm hello to everyone...
the purpose of this thread is only to get my point across...
it might get closed, but, let me try!!!
as a buyer here, i'd like to get a phone as
described by the seller. i'd expect that i get every penny's worth that i pay!!!
as a result, i'd prefer dealing with someone who
has been here for a good amount of time, had plenty of legit posts, some feedbacks- u see, they make me trust the seller and enter into dealing with him!!!
ah nuggy!!!! you've made that condition into thin vapour!!!
it came as a shock when he was on the other side- a scammer!!! so well, maybe that acted as a catalyst and some people here might be thinking that this mp would go dead, so lets make something out quickly!!!
and we've seen so many people suffering here of late, inspite pf new rules and everything!!!
since i got the g1, i've been looking here for the
betterment of my devices...and i thank this lovely platform!!!
coming back to the scams...
well, there are some amazing members like
charlie, dutch, mally, warrior, juzz and many
others- i just remembered a few, sorry to others, but u all are great!!!
i believe xda should, acting as a platform where we get real nice deals at the market place, be entitled to a % or 1$ out of every transaction that takes place... and that fund should help some of those on the bad side of a scam... or the great devs here... but there might be people who would misuse such an effort by the community... and thus there would be strict rules for that too...
and the concept of a middleman.... that can be
great... my lack of understanding of america's
geography would require some of you here to put this in a better way... but it could be possible...
or better, the transferred money goes into an xda account, and then transferred to the seller once the buyer gets it... tracking and all legal details need to be provided... and xda keeps a $ out of it for the community!!!
unless someone gets a local deal, ofcourse!!! i dont know if all this is practical and realistic or
not, but it's something we can think about... it's better to pay a $ here than having 400$ or so
gone into thin air!!
mods, sorry if this is wrong...
but just had to get this across...
all you people.... THANKS
Should i copy and paste my response from the same thread in the other section>
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Should i copy and paste my response from the same thread in the other section>
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lol
ur wish
Tried reading that, now my head hurts...
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yeah that thread was closed for a reason, lol.
As is this one.
The user you refer to no longer has access to the MP.
alokated said:
i believe xda should, acting as a platform where we get real nice deals at the market place, be entitled to a % or 1$ out of every transaction that takes place... and that fund should help some of those on the bad side of a scam... or the great devs here... but there might be people who would misuse such an effort by the community... and thus there would be strict rules for that too...
and the concept of a middleman.... that can be
great... my lack of understanding of america's
geography would require some of you here to put this in a better way... but it could be possible...
or better, the transferred money goes into an xda account, and then transferred to the seller once the buyer gets it... tracking and all legal details need to be provided... and xda keeps a $ out of it for the community!!!
unless someone gets a local deal, ofcourse!!! i dont know if all this is practical and realistic or
not, but it's something we can think about... it's better to pay a $ here than having 400$ or so
gone into thin air!!
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This is a legal minefield and simply not feasible. Sorry.
Good afternoon.
would it be possible to sign this petition by most member possible? so if pouriez seen the move in a location where it would be visible by the more members as possible, thank you for all of us
http://www.activism.com/it_IT/petizione/lg-nexus-4-tagliamo-il-prezzo-italiano/39734
alessa said:
Good afternoon.
would it be possible to sign this petition by most member possible? so if pouriez seen the move in a location where it would be visible by the more members as possible, thank you for all of us
http://www.activism.com/it_IT/petizione/lg-nexus-4-tagliamo-il-prezzo-italiano/39734
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This will not do alot unless you target the Governments that are making it cost more. Not something you can really do anything about.
zelendel said:
This will not do alot unless you target the Governments that are making it cost more. Not something you can really do anything about.
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of course it is the fault of LG! proof with asus and the price of the Nexus 7 which is the same as the shop either on the playstore.
Things cost different amounts in different countries. Get over it
ap3604 said:
Things cost different amounts in different countries. Get over it
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That is not the reason why the prices are different
If Google wish to subsidise the phone to get people to use their store, that's upto them.
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Frankly, these petitions are getting out of hand! Its supposed to be a powerful tool to gather the masses for things that really matter. Open source, more support, freedom, things that are important. LG or any other manufacturer for that matter won't reduce their prices just because someone who does not know half the things going behind pricing decisions, asks them to. Don't like the pricing, don't buy.
This needs to be stopped, or even the petitions which would have had an impact otherwise will start looking like someone throwing a tantrum.
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Frankly, these petitions are getting out of hand! Its supposed to be a powerful tool to gather the masses for things that really matter. Open source, more support, freedom, things that are important. LG or any other manufacturer for that matter won't reduce their prices just because someone who does not know half the things going behind pricing decisions, asks them to. Don't like the pricing, don't buy.
This needs to be stopped, or even the petitions which would have had an impact otherwise will start looking like someone throwing a tantrum.
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This!
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anirudh412 said:
Frankly, these petitions are getting out of hand! Its supposed to be a powerful tool to gather the masses for things that really matter. Open source, more support, freedom, things that are important. LG or any other manufacturer for that matter won't reduce their prices just because someone who does not know half the things going behind pricing decisions, asks them to. Don't like the pricing, don't buy.
This needs to be stopped, or even the petitions which would have had an impact otherwise will start looking like someone throwing a tantrum.
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Exactly this :highfive:
I sure hope a google employee isn't on this forum reading these threads. Google comes out with a phone that is much less expensive than anything else of comparable specs and yet we still have people trying to stir up the masses against them?
Should I start a petition against toyota that my car costs a different amount than in other countries? How about any manufacturer of anything I start a petition against?
Everyone stop acting as company CEO's, your beloved item you want isn't the price you want, DONT BUY IT. You can even go ahead and hate the company, that's not how vusiness is conducted. Company choose prices and then consumers decide if they buy or not. And then, guess on who's wallet it is if they didn't choose the optimal price? THE COMPANY, so shut up and swallow the pill or start your own phone making business.
There are much more important things that you guys could create a petition for.
I went ahead and reported this thread to the mods to lock / delete.
Austrian here. If anyone from Germany would be kind enough to send me a nexus 4 from Germany please pm me. We can talk about shipping price and extras via private messages. Thank you in advance
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So the nexus 7 is the same price in store and on the play store but the nexus 4 isn't?
I've signed the petition bro and wish you guys all the best in Italy.
Good luck.
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There are much more important things that you guys could create a petition for.
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Then why don't you take some action and try do something about it?
I think, and I want to believe that this reaction from your part at all, and due to a misunderstanding of the fact. know that the problem is producing not only for Italy, but for all of Europe and probably even for the usa! LG has decided to sell its nexus € 4590 / $, then it is available to 350 € / $ on google playstore. but the real concern is that some countries are not entitled to google playstore, and even if this is not the fault of LG, were it even really penalizes countries that are in the story! ! In addition to that, how can sell LG mobile google, which declare his mobile trying to sell € 350 / $ because it is mobile prices too expensive! So yes, it is true that the petition is based are made for much more serious problem than the price of a smartphone, but at the same time, this is the only way that works for a multinational company has to understand that we sum does not agree with his political advantage against all odds!
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I went ahead and reported this thread to the mods to lock / delete.
Anyone else reading this please do the same :good:
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under your username sense, I would like you to remember that we are civilized and free people to express these feelings WITHOUT SANSURE! so if you disagree with my point of view, which is your right after all, its not a reason to ask for a closing thread is NOT offensive to anyone, OR trigger hatred !
OK guys cool down. The mods already know about this thread. And while I think it is pointed in the wrong direction it is not hurting anyone. If it gets out of hand I will close it.
Now as for the "without censor" that is not the case. This thread will be censored if it gets out of hand.
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alessa said:
under your username sense, I would like you to remember that we are civilized and free people to express these feelings WITHOUT SANSURE! so if you disagree with my point of view, which is your right after all, its not a reason to ask for a closing thread is NOT offensive to anyone, OR trigger hatred !
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You think you should be able to post anything on a privately owned forum with no controls from the moderators?
As for the thread being locked / deleted, that's because these sort of petition threads don't do anything good for the forum and always turn into flamewars. You can see the same thing happening in the "petition for microsd card slot" thread below this one.
alessa said:
I think, and I want to believe that this reaction from your part at all, and due to a misunderstanding of the fact. know that the problem is producing not only for Italy, but for all of Europe and probably even for the usa! LG has decided to sell its nexus € 4590 / $, then it is available to 350 € / $ on google playstore. but the real concern is that some countries are not entitled to google playstore, and even if this is not the fault of LG, were it even really penalizes countries that are in the story! ! In addition to that, how can sell LG mobile google, which declare his mobile trying to sell € 350 / $ because it is mobile prices too expensive! So yes, it is true that the petition is based are made for much more serious problem than the price of a smartphone, but at the same time, this is the only way that works for a multinational company has to understand that we sum does not agree with his political advantage against all odds!
under your username sense, I would like you to remember that we are civilized and free people to express these feelings WITHOUT SANSURE! so if you disagree with my point of view, which is your right after all, its not a reason to ask for a closing thread is NOT offensive to anyone, OR trigger hatred !
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We should sansur your right to speak with such grammar.
I'm really grieve but I'm a Belgian of Italian origin who does not understand English very well but uses google translation because I have a passion. please excuse my vocabulary. I do not want nothing to create a polemic, just that my intention is to collect a max of person who will want to join my cause. thank you kindly let live thread and will give him a chance.
I wan to start a petition to stop the useless petitions in this forum.