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Two Steps Away From A Perfect Tilt

Well at least in my eyes anyway... I have almost the perfect setup for me running Sleuth's 3.0 WWE Rom and radio 1.64.08.21 with MSVC 1.6 and if I could just get it to do two more things it would be perfect. Crazy thing happened today, so I know the first wish must be able to be achieved. I'm sitting in the airport waiting for a flight watching my mobile slingbox with the audio coming out of the internal speaker and I have my bluetooth headset on waitng for calls to come in. Sure enough a call comes in and MSVC starts to announce the caller, but also starts playing the audio from my slingbox. "What I say how is this possible?" I'm just using a cheap Jabra headset that I got from Verizon as a matter of fast it says Verizon on it and not Jabra. The headset works perfectly with MSVC 1.6 announcing callers and everything else, but I didn't think it was possible for it to allow audio from music or streaming video such as mobile slingbox. Well it did during that incoming call, so does this mean it is possible to listen to audio through this bluetooth headset? If anyone knows what I need to do to be able to listen to music and streaming video/audio please let me know. That is wish #1.
Wish #2 is the ability to use a app. that will allow me to respond to text messages via voice, I guess some type of speech to text app. that I can speak into my bluetooth headset and it will type out the words to respond. I've found it very difficult to respond to my text messages traveling 80mph down the road and I also don't think it is very safe. So I'm not sure if wish#2 is possible, but I thought I would come here and ask.
So that being said the two above wishes would complete the coolest device that I have ever owned in my 42 years of life. If you can help a old man's wishes come true please let me know.
Thanks in advance,
JMan

This is for your first wish :
I would let another "genie" to grant wish #2

Just sliding this over to the regular Kaiser forum
Mike

Thanks for this...I too used to use something like this for the Wizard and the Hermes. Never looked into it for the Kaiser! Thanks though!

only problem is once you are completely happy you won't be able to mess around with your device anymore, making you unhappy.....

eltoro said:
This is for your first wish :
I would let another "genie" to grant wish #2
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I installed this best I knew how, and I get error message "Failed to enable BT audio" I did a search on "BTAudioToggle" but can't seem to find anything on it, how to use it or install properly. Thanks for the fast response to my post, so I guess it does look like there is hope for my first wish.
Thanks again

Or
Or you could just buy a bluetooth stereo/voice headset. I forgot how to phrase the name of this. But I use the tritton bluetooth stereo caller id headset and it works good.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358669
I'm sure most of you have already seen this but I couldn't find any reference to this on the forum. This works on kaiser XDA-Live 1.2 (and I'm sure all the other ROMs too)
from the webpage: http://www.trianglepowers.com/PPC/ViewApp.aspx?ID=52
Description: Want to listen to your music stored on your Windows Mobile 6 Professional device, but don't want to carry around a corded headset? If you've got a BlueTooth headset, then you're in luck! With this program, just start it up, and all of the sounds from your system will be rerouted from the internal speaker to your BlueTooth headset! This program does not require the 2.0 Compact Framework.
direct WM6 download:
ftp://www.trianglepowers.com/ppc/BTAwm6.CAB

redsrule2500 said:
only problem is once you are completely happy you won't be able to mess around with your device anymore, making you unhappy.....
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Well we always have the unsolved driver issue

lthown said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358669
I'm sure most of you have already seen this but I couldn't find any reference to this on the forum. This works on kaiser XDA-Live 1.2 (and I'm sure all the other ROMs too)
from the webpage: http://www.trianglepowers.com/PPC/ViewApp.aspx?ID=52
Description: Want to listen to your music stored on your Windows Mobile 6 Professional device, but don't want to carry around a corded headset? If you've got a BlueTooth headset, then you're in luck! With this program, just start it up, and all of the sounds from your system will be rerouted from the internal speaker to your BlueTooth headset! This program does not require the 2.0 Compact Framework.
direct WM6 download:
ftp://www.trianglepowers.com/ppc/BTAwm6.CAB
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Does anyone have this file stored somewhere I could download it or could someone email it. It appears that the above link is down as well as the whole site.
Thanks,
JMan

jmandss said:
Does anyone have this file stored somewhere I could download it or could someone email it. It appears that the above link is down as well as the whole site.
Thanks,
JMan
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here is a direct link to the file in my repository.
http://dc15.4shared.com/download/37494771/3e38bcfc/BTAudioToggle.zip

file attached

The only time I get the error you got is when my headset isn't turned on and linked to the phone. Remember also that the toggle is a toggle, the connection breaks when something else interrupts the audio, like a phone call. You must toggle it off then back on (or use BTaudioOn).

Hey thanks guys my first wish has come true and I'm now able to listen to my slingbox through my BT headset and also listen to music! Thanks again foe that.
As for wish #2, it looks like it is not possible, I been reading many post from 2004 until today and it looks like our devices just don't have the power to run a speech to text program with what we have today. I guess I'll just keep on wishing.
Thanks again,
JMan

jmandss said:
Hey thanks guys my first wish has come true and I'm now able to listen to my slingbox through my BT headset and also listen to music! Thanks again foe that.
As for wish #2, it looks like it is not possible, I been reading many post from 2004 until today and it looks like our devices just don't have the power to run a speech to text program with what we have today. I guess I'll just keep on wishing.
Thanks again,
JMan
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I don't know of a speech-to-text program specifically but I would not say it isn't possible. Cyberon and MS both have speech recognition in their Voice Command products. I also have Windows Live that allows me to speak a location to get directions.
All of these apps run on TYTNII and do not require voice training to work. They are not perfect, but they do work. Hence, it should be possible to do what you ask. But no one has done it yet?

Multiple bluetooth connections

Hi,
Is it possible to connect two devices to Kaiser with bluetooth simultaneously? If I have already connected to kaiser with my Plantronics headset then I can't connect my TomTom 930T navigator to kaiser simultaneously. Is there any utility program or tweak to help me with this issue?

searching would help, but no it isn't possible. You can pair with many devices but you cannot have multiple streams, its part of the bluetooth protocol.

illusion said:
searching would help, but no it isn't possible. You can pair with many devices but you cannot have multiple streams, its part of the bluetooth protocol.
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Ok, thanks!

illusion said:
searching would help, but no it isn't possible. You can pair with many devices but you cannot have multiple streams, its part of the bluetooth protocol.
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If it wasn't possible, just how long would you expect the OP to keep searching?

lifes2short said:
If it wasn't possible, just how long would you expect the OP to keep searching?
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For incorrect info?
Juraus, the first reply you received was incorrect. How do I know? I'm doing it now with my hermes.
I have a call to a wired phone going now, listening to the sounds of my typing this very message in my bluetooth ear piece while at the same time watching my bluetooth GPS receiver track and send data to the HTC GPS Tool.
Oh yes, this is all under WM6.0

jdc said:
For incorrect info?
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My point exactly.

jdc said:
Juraus, the first reply you received was incorrect. How do I know? I'm doing it now with my hermes.
I have a call to a wired phone going now, listening to the sounds of my typing this very message in my bluetooth ear piece while at the same time watching my bluetooth GPS receiver track and send data to the HTC GPS Tool.
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Those are different connections, and yes you can do that. You can't connect 2 mono headsets and use them arbitrarily for calling as the OP suggest though. You'll "set as hands-free" one of them in the bluetooth settings, then when you place or get a call it will be routed to that one even if you have another one paired and powered on until you go in the settings again and set that one as hands-free.
If it wasn't possible, just how long would you expect the OP to keep searching?
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Until he found another thread giving the answer, i.e. saying it's not possible

jdc said:
For incorrect info?
Juraus, the first reply you received was incorrect. How do I know? I'm doing it now with my hermes.
I have a call to a wired phone going now, listening to the sounds of my typing this very message in my bluetooth ear piece while at the same time watching my bluetooth GPS receiver track and send data to the HTC GPS Tool.
Oh yes, this is all under WM6.0
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You can have multiple streams, but you cannot stream the same data to multiple endpoints without some decent hackery. Such as having 2 audio streams at the same time to output the same exact audio to a headset and to another BTA device. Before calling someone incorrect know what you're talking about. I've worked on backend products for bluetooth, bluewire(proprietary bluetooth light), and even some zigbee headaches and stand where my original post was. You CANNOT have multiple streams of the same data going to multiple endpoints.

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You can have multiple streams, but you cannot stream the same data to multiple endpoints without some decent hackery. Such as having 2 audio streams at the same time to output the same exact audio to a headset and to another BTA device. Before calling someone incorrect know what you're talking about. I've worked on backend products for bluetooth, bluewire(proprietary bluetooth light), and even some zigbee headaches and stand where my original post was. You CANNOT have multiple streams of the same data going to multiple endpoints.
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That's nice what you worked on, good for you.
And I can call someone incorrect on a post when it is not what the OP was asking about.
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"Is it possible to connect two devices to Kaiser with bluetooth simultaneously? If I have already connected to kaiser with my Plantronics headset then I can't connect my TomTom 930T navigator to kaiser simultaneously."
No where did the OP post anything about multiple headsets or similar devices. The question was about a headset and a GPS receiver.
Your post:
"You can pair with many devices but you cannot have multiple streams"
That reads that one can have multiple devices set up to connect to a given device, but can't use them at the same time.
I posted that it was incorrect as I was doing it when I made my post.
Besides, your reply to my post just said it was possible, at least in theory.
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"you cannot stream the same data to multiple endpoints without some decent hackery"
So, to modify one of your lines, know what the original post was asking before posting incorrect info and then trying to slap your knowledge size on the table when someone calls you on it.

jdc said:
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"Is it possible to connect two devices to Kaiser with bluetooth simultaneously? If I have already connected to kaiser with my Plantronics headset then I can't connect my TomTom 930T navigator to kaiser simultaneously."
No where did the OP post anything about multiple headsets or similar devices. The question was about a headset and a GPS receiver.
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Well, from what we understand, he actually does!
The Tomtom GPS is not there to provide GPS data, but has a function to act as a headset (the Tomtom has a speaker and mic, and can be used as a hands free and to accept/reject calls or dial from its screen while your phone is in your pocket).
So the Tomtom in this case IS a "headset", so the end question really was about a headset and a headset - to which the "not possible" answer applied correctly... or the OP wasn't clear enough about the use of the GPS, but AFAIK the "integrated" Tomtoms can't provide nav data over BT anyway so there's not much choice
So, [...] know what the original post was asking before posting incorrect info and then trying to slap your knowledge size on the table when someone calls you on it.
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Kind return of this one to yourself

kilrah said:
Well, from what we understand, he actually does!
The Tomtom GPS is not there to provide GPS data, but has a function to act as a headset (the Tomtom has a speaker and mic, and can be used as a hands free and to accept/reject calls or dial from its screen while your phone is in your pocket).
So the Tomtom in this case IS a "headset", so the end question really was about a headset and a headset - to which the "not possible" answer applied correctly... or the OP wasn't clear enough about the use of the GPS, but AFAIK the "integrated" Tomtoms can't provide nav data over BT anyway so there's not much choice
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Ah yes, that does change things a bit. I thought that the TomTom device mentioned was similar to the one that Garmin offers as there is TomTom software available for the WM platform. In that respect, I apologize to illusion as I didn't have all the facts, nor did the OP fully explain what they were trying to do.
So, assuming that the OP was indeed trying to make use of the hands free parts of the TomTom, then no, it won't work with the headset at the same time as the TomTom appears to play the part of a speakerphone, which would exclude the use of the headset.
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More or less. However, I stand by my initial reply as illusions' post, as written, says that one can not have multiple devices 'talking' to the PDA via bluetooth at the same time, which is possible, as long as they are not trying to access the same data stream (multiple headsets).

jdc said:
More or less. However, I stand by my initial reply as illusions' post, as written, says that one can not have multiple devices 'talking' to the PDA via bluetooth at the same time
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Hehe
To me he just simplified, not putting the fully detailed answer but just the one that applied in the OP's case.
But yeah, the little bit of "ink" it saved actually got multiplied to a much greater amount in the end

Bluetooth Hands Free Working?

has anyone with a bluetooth handsfree kit having problems dialing out with it?
I have a Pioneer Nav deck in my car and while bluetooth handsfree works, I cannot use the deck to dial any numbers? The deck looks like it's trying to dial the number, but the phone doesn't respond. However, I can dial from the phone and converse over bluetooth... The deck says it's connected and shows the carrier information on the screen, but can't get the phone to dial any numbers.
I've done some testing and it looks like if the phone goes to sleep, bluetooth doesn't wake it up.
I'm using the latest voguimg-240x320-04-03-10.nbh.

I thought DZO fixed something in the latest version regarding bluetooth falling asleep when the phone locks, but if you have the latest nbh I guess that's not it.
I have a Ford with Sync, and it is able to dial out contacts but I haven't tried direct dial. It uses voice dialer though, I don't know if that matters... I'll try dialing a # directly and let you know if I can.

berardi said:
I thought DZO fixed something in the latest version regarding bluetooth falling asleep when the phone locks, but if you have the latest nbh I guess that's not it.
I have a Ford with Sync, and it is able to dial out contacts but I haven't tried direct dial. It uses voice dialer though, I don't know if that matters... I'll try dialing a # directly and let you know if I can.
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I've tried both direct dial and with the transferred contacts from the deck and still no go.
Have you done the a2dp hack where you had to go into some file in the root area and add 4000000 to a line or something like that?
Also, when you are in the car, is the phone plugged in?
Thanks.

ckl_88 said:
I've tried both direct dial and with the transferred contacts from the deck and still no go.
Have you done the a2dp hack where you had to go into some file in the root area and add 4000000 to a line or something like that?
Also, when you are in the car, is the phone plugged in?
Thanks.
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Yes I did the AD2P change.
I don't plug my phone in at all anymore, just power charger

berardi said:
Yes I did the AD2P change.
I don't plug my phone in at all anymore, just power charger
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Thanks. I'll try the a2dp hack today and test on the way home tonight to see if it makes a difference.
Your Ford Sync has A2DP profile on the deck to stream music from the phone right? Mine doesn't, it just has the phone capability I wonder if that's another factor to consider.

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Thanks. I'll try the a2dp hack today and test on the way home tonight to see if it makes a difference.
Your Ford Sync has A2DP profile on the deck to stream music from the phone right? Mine doesn't, it just has the phone capability I wonder if that's another factor to consider.
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Well I don't know if the AD2P hack will make a difference - try it but mine worked before I did the hack - only the music wouldn't play properly. It still isn't perfect but now music does play. Yes the Sync plays streaming bluetooth media.

berardi said:
Well I don't know if the AD2P hack will make a difference - try it but mine worked before I did the hack - only the music wouldn't play properly. It still isn't perfect but now music does play. Yes the Sync plays streaming bluetooth media.
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It's still not working after the hack. What I've also found out that even after I unlock the phone, the deck still cannot get the phone to make a call. However, if I phone a contact from the phone, hang up, then use the deck to call another contact it will work. Then when the phone locks, I'm back to square one again. it seems like something is happening when the phone locks.

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It's still not working after the hack. What I've also found out that even after I unlock the phone, the deck still cannot get the phone to make a call. However, if I phone a contact from the phone, hang up, then use the deck to call another contact it will work. Then when the phone locks, I'm back to square one again. it seems like something is happening when the phone locks.
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I've experienced a lot of weirdness like that too.. Personally my initial connection is the hardest part like when I get in the car in the morning or home from work.. i always have to reset bluetooth to make it work.
DZO has DEFINITELY improved bluetooth support, and it's pretty good but it's not quite complete yet. I'm just being patient and hoping for the best

berardi said:
I've experienced a lot of weirdness like that too.. Personally my initial connection is the hardest part like when I get in the car in the morning or home from work.. i always have to reset bluetooth to make it work.
DZO has DEFINITELY improved bluetooth support, and it's pretty good but it's not quite complete yet. I'm just being patient and hoping for the best
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Yeah, there's no doubt DZO has done a great job with Android. I hope he keeps up the good work!

Anyone get bluetooth voice dialling in froyo?

I've tried and tried with my parrot car kit, but nothing seems to active the phone (either the button, or the keywords), has anyone had any luck?

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I've tried and tried with my parrot car kit, but nothing seems to active the phone (either the button, or the keywords), has anyone had any luck?
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Works great with jawbone icon.

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I've tried and tried with my parrot car kit, but nothing seems to active the phone (either the button, or the keywords), has anyone had any luck?
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works great with my pioneer carkit, connectivity is a lot better to, bluetooth used to strugle to pair with my carkit, now it connects right away.

johoja said:
works great with my pioneer carkit, connectivity is a lot better to, bluetooth used to strugle to pair with my carkit, now it connects right away.
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Typical, I really wanted this. I still get the same pairing problems (paired but not connected). Then after repeating the same process up to about 10 times is pairs and connects. From then on it's fine for receiving calls. But initiating them just isn't working for me.
So on the kits that work, how does it work, does it use the voice search (ie the one requiring a data connection) or the old style voice dialler?
Does it give you any confirmation before calling, just in case it's picked up the wrong person?

Works okay for me with a no-name bluetooth headset. I press the "attention/answer" button on the headset, the screen pops over to the voice dialing screen with some instructions, and the headset says "Speak now." I say, "Call John Smith". The headset says "Calling John Smith" and the dialer pops up and dials. It does not ask for confirmation, unfortunately (Voice Commander under Windows Mobile says, "Calling John Smith?" and you have to respond "Yes" or "No"); I guess they assume you can hit the "end" button and try again if it got it wrong. (I haven't used it much, but it's two-for-two getting the callee right on the test calls I've made.) I didn't check whether it needed a data connection or not; sorry.

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Typical, I really wanted this. I still get the same pairing problems (paired but not connected). Then after repeating the same process up to about 10 times is pairs and connects. From then on it's fine for receiving calls. But initiating them just isn't working for me.
So on the kits that work, how does it work, does it use the voice search (ie the one requiring a data connection) or the old style voice dialler?
Does it give you any confirmation before calling, just in case it's picked up the wrong person?
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For my car kit it does ask for confirmation. I guess it depends, which car kit do you have that your having contectivity problems? Foryo is much improved for me in that regard.

I've tried and tried with my parrot car kit, but nothing seems to active the phone (either the button, or the keywords), has anyone had any luck?
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Works awful on my icon. Does not recognize any of the names I say.

johoja said:
For my car kit it does ask for confirmation. I guess it depends, which car kit do you have that your having contectivity problems? Foryo is much improved for me in that regard.
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I've got a Parrot CK3000 EVO. Worked fine in windows mobile, but in eclair and froyo I do get it to pair and connect after lots of attempts, just can't get the voice dialling working.
I've ordered an updating kit for the bluetooth set in the hopes that a newer firmware for it may help. I'll update this once I've got it.

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I've got a Parrot CK3000 EVO. Worked fine in windows mobile, but in eclair and froyo I do get it to pair and connect after lots of attempts, just can't get the voice dialling working.
I've ordered an updating kit for the bluetooth set in the hopes that a newer firmware for it may help. I'll update this once I've got it.
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I also have a parrot evo 3k and I'm interested to hear what you find out.
Is there a consolidated thread with compatibility or test results anywhere?
I have CM 6.0 RC1 running on my G1
My Plantronics 340 seemed to work great for voice dialing, but my car kit and other BT pieces don't.
I did get think outside BT keyboard and BT mouse working

I am running CM 6 RC1 on a Dream, with a Motorola H700 headset.
I got them to pair up without any problem, and it seems to be working without a data plan or wifi connection.
However, I noticed a couple of issues:
1) The "speak now" prompt is extremely quiet, even with volume levels maxed out on both the phone and the headset
2) It only works if the screen is "awake", meaning I still need to hit MENU on the phone in order for my command to be acknowleged (not very hands-free, is it? hopefully this is a bug in Froyo that will be soon repaired!). This is a bad thing for me, 'cuz here in Quebec, you can get a ticket for inappropriate touching of a cellphone while driving.
3) If it thinks it has the right phone number, it says "calling {whoever}", and then proceeds to dial without further warning, which is dangerous since when it speaks the "calling" notification, that too is very low volume
Is this just my configuration? Perhaps a limitation of the Dream hardware? Perhaps (this is me dreaming in technicolor) a simple software setting that needs changing?

[Q] Touchless Control and UConnect hands-free system.

So, this may have been brought up already, I did try to search, but didnt come up with much.
So, i bought a Moto X, even after hearing the lenovo/google news. I figure that they cant ruin the device quickly enough to justify second-guessing my long and painstaking decision process.
Anyway, touchless control is pretty awesome. Ive been tinkering with it since i got it. I'm a long time android user, and have been using google now for some time. The problem is this.
I drive a 2013 Jeep, with a UConnect bluetooth hands-free system. It works for what its supposed to work for, i can make calls, stream audio, all is well. In fact its working better than it did on my old GNex. However, once I connect my motox to UConnect (that is, i get in, turn on the Jeep, and bluetooth associates), touchless control becomes unresponsive. In fact, it seems that even if i try to manually initiate a voice search, google now cant hear me. I can use the voice input for the keyboard, just not voice commands. It's almost like as soon as i'm paired to a bluetooth input, google now voice input/touchless control get turned off. Which to me seems odd.
I tried looking around in my settings, i cant seem to find a setting that tells the phone to do this. It just doesnt work.
Also, if i turn off bluetooth while the Jeep is still running, touchless/voice input starts working again.
I havent tried pairing it to another bluetooth headset to see if it does it then too, i'll update this thread once i've had a chance to try that.
Is this something others are experiencing? Is it supposed to do this for some safety feature, and I dont know it?
Thanks!

Google Now>Settings>Voice>Bluetooth Headset

Solutions Etcetera said:
Google Now>Settings>Voice>Bluetooth Headset
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Thanks! Just changed the setting. I'll give it a shot as soon as im back in my Jeep!

Ok, results.
I found the Bluetooth headset option was turned off by default. I turned it on. Last night I had a chance to fiddle with it on my way home. At first it didn't work. So i went back into the Google now settings and turned the option back off, and..... It started working! I have no idea why. I'm actually back in the same config I started with, but now it's working. Weird.

Gotta love android...

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Gotta love android...
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I do love android! But yea, i agree. Some weird stuff here.

gangrif said:
I do love android! But yea, i agree. Some weird stuff here.
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The other day I had a Bluetooth headset on listening to a podcast via Pocketcasts and when I used Google Now, sometimes the response would play over the phone's speaker, and other times over the headset.
Pretty clear Android still hasn't gotten Bluetooth right. )c:

Solutions Etcetera said:
Pretty clear Android still hasn't gotten Bluetooth right. )c:
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yeah, ain't that the truth! I couldn't get a Moto X to pair with my Lexus when an iPhone 5 can.