[Q] unrooting the z1 restores the OTA updates? - Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

hi, i have just moved from the Sammys2 to the lovely xperiaZ1
just wanna ask -as the phone still supported by sony OTA's- if i root and then unrooting my device, can i update my phone using the companion?

eraser0 said:
hi, i have just moved from the Sammys2 to the lovely xperiaZ1
just wanna ask -as the phone still supported by sony OTA's- if i root and then unrooting my device, can i update my phone using the companion?
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You can always use Pccompanion if you are rooted, just not if you unlocked the bootloader.

gregbradley said:
You can always use Pccompanion if you are rooted, just not if you unlocked the bootloader.
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well thanks for the reply, what i mean, if sony updated its firmware, and iam on ROOT, can i update after unrooting?

eraser0 said:
well thanks for the reply, what i mean, if sony updated its firmware, and iam on ROOT, can i update after unrooting?
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You do not need to unroot
as I said above
You can always use Pccompanion if you are rooted, just not if you unlocked the bootloader.

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[Q] Xperia Z1 Root Help

Help guys.
I've just realised that unlocking the bootloader of the Xperia Z1 affects the camera which seems to be the best feature of this device.
I have got to questions:
1. Can I root this phone without unlocking the bootloader? I am on firmware 14.1.G.2.257
2. If I am able to root this device, am I still gonna be able to receive firmware OTA updates from Sony?
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slimldj said:
Help guys.
I've just realised that unlocking the bootloader of the Xperia Z1 affects the camera which seems to be the best feature of this device.
I have got to questions:
1. Can I root this phone without unlocking the bootloader? I am on firmware 14.1.G.2.257
2. If I am able to root this device, am I still gonna be able to receive firmware OTA updates from Sony?
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1. in a way yes, but you have to downgrade to .534 and use b1n4ry tool. then ota update to .257
2. just like i said in 1. you can receive ota but the ota release was for .257 only atm
anyway you can unlock bootloader without breaking camera by uprading to 4.3. but there's no diret method to have root on 4.3 but to have your bootloader unlocked. but in case you want to unlocked, better to backup your TA first.
there's a lot of thread how to do that.
mharckk said:
anyway you can unlock bootloader without breaking camera by uprading to 4.3. but there's no diret method to have root on 4.3 but to have your bootloader unlocked. but in case you want to unlocked, better to backup your TA first.
there's a lot of thread how to do that.
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mharckk said:
1. in a way yes, but you have to downgrade to .534 and use b1n4ry tool. then ota update to .257
2. just like i said in 1. you can receive ota but the ota release was for .257 only atm
anyway you can unlock bootloader without breaking camera by uprading to 4.3. but there's no diret method to have root on 4.3 but to have your bootloader unlocked. but in case you want to unlocked, better to backup your TA first.
there's a lot of thread how to do that.
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Thanks.
If I unlock bootloader, will OTA come?
I just wanna be rooted and receive OTA. I'm not gonna be flashing any Roms.
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slimldj said:
Thanks.
If I unlock bootloader, will OTA come?
I just wanna be rooted and receive OTA. I'm not gonna be flashing any Roms.
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I think you get OTA even if you root but I will recommended to do not unlock bootloader if you will not flash any rom. Just update to 4.3 which is really improved OS with very efficient battery and wait until root for 4.3 come out. If you want root now, which will be a huge mistake do not update to 4.3, use only Vroot or 360 app.

Doomkernel questions

I've recently flashed this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2448613 and was just wondering can I still update via Pc companion/SEUS to new firmwares/updates without losing the kernel, root etc...like will it replace the kernel with a stock one?
I'm a noob at Flashing and search didn't really answer my question.
If you have unlocked your bootloader by the official method at unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com, then you can not use PC Companion or SEUS to update firmware.
Someguyfromhell said:
If you have unlocked your bootloader by the official method at unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com, then you can not use PC Companion or SEUS to update firmware.
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From what you said, I understand that there is an unofficial way to unlock the bootloader and still be able to use PC Companion and SEUS to update firmware?
Just2Cause said:
From what you said, I understand that there is an unofficial way to unlock the bootloader and still be able to use PC Companion and SEUS to update firmware?
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If your bootloader is unlocked, there is no way to use pc companion or seus to update firmware unless you relock it
Thankyou for the replies, I might try to relock my bootloader. I unlocked it through the official Sony method.
Just2Cause said:
From what you said, I understand that there is an unofficial way to unlock the bootloader and still be able to use PC Companion and SEUS to update firmware?
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Not as far as I know. Older Xperia models had test point method, but Z1 does not have this option.
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Someguyfromhell said:
Not as far as I know. Older Xperia models had test point method, but Z1 does not have this option.
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Has someone actually ruled this out? I mostly hear that people with LB go swap their phones or just make sure they're getting a UB phone in the first place. The main complication I see is compromising the waterproof gasket...
Test point method?
xasbo said:
Has someone actually ruled this out? I mostly hear that people with LB go swap their phones or just make sure they're getting a UB phone in the first place. The main complication I see is compromising the waterproof gasket...
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Unlocking bootloader doesn't have anything to do with waterproofness, it's something done using a computer.
Just2Cause said:
Unlocking bootloader doesn't have anything to do with waterproofness, it's something done using a computer.
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Obviously. In order to access test points, the back cover will have to be removed. The back cover uses tape/gasketing to enforce waterproofing. My question was about whether someone has actually looked into a testpoint unlock yet for the XZ1.

[Q] Sony Xperia Z1 Needs Rooting?

Hi there xda community.
I have been interested in rooting my android devices for quite some time now although with my previous phone I had no such luck (given it was a Samsung galaxy s2 with that damn Australian custom kernel)
Anyway I'm here now cause all I want to be able to do on my Xperia z1 is plug in an xbox controller and use that, online it is said I don't need a root, that I should be able to just plug it in and go (with the otg cable of course) but no such luck, my phone doesn't not indicate that it's recognised, I am running 4.2.2.
Will I need to root to be able to do this after all?
My phone specs are:
Sony Xperia Z1
C903
4.2.2
8974-AAAAANAZQ-10270011-23
3.4.0-perf-g66807d4-02450-g9a218f1
14.1.G.2.259
Is this unrootable?
Thanks in advance.
It's your Model C6903?
eclyptos said:
It's your Model C6903?
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Yes it is, i have just recently tried to root it with Cydia Impactor without much luck
Holographic You said:
Yes it is, i have just recently tried to root it with Cydia Impactor without much luck
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Then you should search more carefully, there is no direct root like Vroot, 360 or Cydia for .290 and .136 FW. The only way to Root Z1 is with THIS method by NUT. You have to Downgrade to .534 FW provided by NUT to not lose IMEI, Root with Bin4ar, then Update first to .290 with the instruction provided, then when you have .290 rooted follow this instruction HERE
Watch the Video tutorial Hot To Root on first link.
Okay so I now have my Xperia rooted at .136. I'm hoping now there is a way to connect a wired xbox controller, but my phone doesn't indicate that it's connected. Apologies for the questions.
Holographic You said:
Okay so I now have my Xperia rooted at .136. I'm hoping now there is a way to connect a wired xbox controller, but my phone doesn't indicate that it's connected. Apologies for the questions.
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Good, don't forget to click thanx. :good:
About connect Xbox Controller, what I know it cannot be connected natively because is not supported. The only controller which can be connected is from PS3. But you are Rooted and I think this can pe possible in some way.
First, try different OTG cable because I got the same problems like yours with my PS3 Controller, look HERE.
Then when you have the right cable and everything should work try to follow this Thread Hot To.
Good Luck. :fingers-crossed:
One last problem, as your probably aware now that my phone is rooted ive lost camera funcion, is there a fix for this?
Also I appear to have lost data, so I cant use the internet without wifi.
Are you sure that you only rooted? Sounds like bootloader unlock to me
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xXFlippyXx said:
Are you sure that you only rooted?
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I followed all of the instructions the links in the posts prior had. How would I manage to unlock the bootloader?
Holographic You said:
One last problem, as your probably aware now that my phone is rooted ive lost camera funcion, is there a fix for this?
Also I appear to have lost data, so I cant use the internet without wifi.
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Rooting device won't cause losing any camera functionality.
However, unlocking bootloader on 4.2.2 will do permanently damage - I hope you watched what did you do...
Procedure is quite clear, root firmware 534, upgrade to 290 - then unlock bootloader.
Sony fixed camera broke error but it's not for older firmware.
So if you unlocked bootloader on 4.2.2 you have permanently damaged camera.
If you have backup TA partition, restore it and do everything again and try to set up your controller with this MARKET APP
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funky0308 said:
Procedure is quite clear, root firmware 534, upgrade to 290 - then unlock bootloader.
Sony fixed camera broke error but it's not for older firmware.
So if you unlocked bootloader on 4.2.2 you have permanently damaged camera.
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Are you sure about that? Permanently? I remember people saying that they have back the camera functionality after Update to .290 or .136.
funky0308 said:
If you have backup TA partition, restore it and do everything again and try to set up your controller with this MARKET APP
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I hope he Backup TA but sound like he do not even know about Bootlader, so guess not.
BTW, I got that App and working Awesome but is for PS3 Controller, he asking for Xbox Controller, It will working too?
eclyptos said:
Are you sure about that? Permanently? I remember people saying that they have back the camera functionality after Update to .290 or .136.
I hope he Backup TA but sound like he do not even know about Bootlader, so guess not.
BTW, I got that App and working Awesome but is for PS3 Controller, he asking for Xbox Controller, It will working too?
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I'm not 100% sure, Google should know that (for sixaxis controller).
And for bootloader - yeap, I'm sure.
If doesn't have TA backup - there's no help.
Only if someone found some way to fix it and I haven't heard for that - but I doubt...
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I was under the impression I needed a rooted device to use backup TA?
Can somebody explain to me what part of process I went through where I unlocked my bootloader?
All I was trying to do is root my phone NOT unlock the bootloader.
I do appreciate the help.
Holographic You said:
I was under the impression I needed a rooted device to use backup TA?
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Correct, you have to Root first then Backup TA.
Holographic You said:
Can somebody explain to me what part of process I went through where I unlocked my bootloader?
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You asking us? You should know what you did. What you did?
Holographic You said:
All I was trying to do is root my phone NOT unlock the bootloader.
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How?
Downgraded to NUT's 14.1.G.1.534 with flash tool rooted it with Bin4ry, installed dualrecovery then updated to 14.1.G.2.257 and finally 14.2.A.1.136.
What went wrong?
Holographic You said:
Downgraded to NUT's 14.1.G.1.534 with flash tool rooted it with Bin4ry, installed dualrecovery then updated to 14.1.G.2.257 and finally 14.2.A.1.136.
What went wrong?
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I followed the steps very closely and there was no mention of unlocking.
What program out of the three would have done it?
Holographic You said:
Downgraded to NUT's 14.1.G.1.534 with flash tool rooted it with Bin4ry, installed dualrecovery then updated to 14.1.G.2.257 and finally 14.2.A.1.136.
What went wrong?
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You downgraded to .534 FW provided bu NUT, Rooted with Bin4ry, Installed DualRecovery then "updated to .257", this updeate wan not necessary and instead of doing that you should update to .136 directly with the instructions from the thread, BUT this should not cause any issues what so ever.
Then you never did this steps from HERE?
Type on keyboard *#*#7378423*#* and check what Bootoader Unlock Saying, Yes, No or Unlocked?
eclyptos said:
Then you never did this steps from HERE?
Type on keyboard *#*#7378423*#* and check what Bootoader Unlock Saying, Yes, No or Unlocked?
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Bootloader unlock allowed: Yes
I did see that page but I ignored it because I was not interested in unlocking my bootloader.
Holographic You said:
Bootloader unlock allowed: Yes
I did see that page but I ignored it because I was not interested in unlocking my bootloader.
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Then your bootloader is Locked. You still have problem with the camera? Do a Factry Reset.

[Q] Can i flash stock roms with unlocked bootloader?

Can I flash regular sony roms with unlocked bootloader?
Or am I have to relock my bootloader for it?
No you don't need.
You can flash anything with unlocked bootloader
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electrash said:
No you don't need.
You can flash anything with unlocked bootloader
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No, i mean with flashtool.
Can I use flashtool with unlocked bootloader?
yes
You can do everything with unlocked bootloader with exception for Ota updates for stock rom.
olokos said:
You can do everything with unlocked bootloader with exception for Ota updates for stock rom.
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Not quite
You also cannot use pccompanion to update with an unlocked bootloader
gregbradley said:
Not quite
You also cannot use pccompanion to update with an unlocked bootloader
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Isn't that possible if you go into flashmode?
olokos said:
Isn't that possible if you go into flashmode?
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No, you cannot use Pccompanion to update software with an unlocked bootloader. It downloads the files but then stops with a warning saying you have modified the software (i.e rooted the bootloader) and then aborts
gregbradley said:
No, you cannot use Pccompanion to update software with an unlocked bootloader. It downloads the files but then stops with a warning saying you have modified the software (i.e rooted the bootloader) and then aborts
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Thanks. I wasn't sure about this as my old xperia play barely got any software updates. Duh. It was released with Android 2.3.3 and left at 2.3.7. Since the Z1 is really powerful and custom kernels don't really give that much of improvements or actually useful features (d2tw drains the battery like crazy) then I decided to stay on stock kernel with LB to keep bionz and other stock features.

Is there a way to update rooted ZR with official Sony image?

I have a rooted Sony ZR 5502, it keeps telling me there's 10.5.1.A.0.283 update available.
I don't want a custom ROM. How do I proceed with updating with official SONY image? Is there a way? I can download it from Sony but not sure where it gets downloaded to.
I tried to read some threads here but there's so much info I get lost. PLease help.
Have you locked or unlocked bootloader?
You can use flashtool, regardless of locked or unlocked bootloader. If it is locked, then the update center, as far as I know, works. I used update center for my locked but rooted zr and even retained root.
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pajoneer said:
Have you locked or unlocked bootloader?
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It's unlocked. Does anybody know where the downloaded image can be found on my phone?
There is ftf file with KITKAK http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-zr/general/stock-rom-xperia-zr-c5502-android-4-4-t2872227

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