Is anyone here watching the Google I/O? I think the new Android M stuff looks really exciting, but if I've understood them correctly, the Nexus 4 won't get it officially (I think only devices from Nexus 5 upwards were listed, but I wasn't fully concentrated on the stream when it was mentioned).
If the Nexus 4 will be excluded from Android M, how likely is it going to be that it will be ported unofficially, and how good are these ports usually quality-wise? I would really like to stay with the N4 for a while, the hardware is still really good in my opinion.
jb91 said:
Is anyone here watching the Google I/O? I think the new Android M stuff looks really exciting, but if I've understood them correctly, the Nexus 4 won't get it officially (I think only devices from Nexus 5 upwards were listed, but I wasn't fully concentrated on the stream when it was mentioned).
If the Nexus 4 will be excluded from Android M, how likely is it going to be that it will be ported unofficially, and how good are these ports usually quality-wise? I would really like to stay with the N4 for a while, the hardware is still really good in my opinion.
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The I/O was talking about dev previews for 5,6,9, and Player. Hoping M arrives on the Nexus 4. Yet, Apple is still supporting a 4 year old phone with only 512MB of ram.
I.m lookimg forward for M. BUT I love my N4 with lollipop so it wont be end of days for me if we dont get M N4 with L is all that i wanted from a phone.
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Pteer Griffin said:
The I/O was talking about dev previews for 5,6,9, and Player. Hoping M arrives on the Nexus 4. Yet, Apple is still supporting a 4 year old phone with only 512MB of ram.
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You're right, it was about the dev previews. I hope we will know more by the end of the I/O. Would be a shame if they aren't gonna update the Nexus 4 as the hardware seems completely capable of handling Android M (i don't really notice a lot of a difference in performance even comparing my 2.5 year old encrypted N4 to a brand new Galaxy S6).
You probably can't really compare a Nexus device with an Apple device though, Apple generally seems a lot more consumer-friendly in that regard (also in terms of repairs and so on). The rumors for Google were, that Android devices will get the newest Android updates for 2 years, and security updates for another year after that. Let's see if this turns out to be true or not..
Nexus support periods are going very rigid.. N4 most likely won't get M. Time to buy a new phone I guess.
We will not have Android M Dev Preview, much less the final version.
The way is a super-mega-awesome-dev to the port of M Dev Preview for us. I find to be difficult because there are not M Preview for Nexus 7 2013 to help a little, which has a similar hardware with our old N4.
rodrigoswz said:
We will not have Android M Dev Preview, much less the final version.
The way is a super-mega-awesome-dev to the port of M Dev Preview for us. I find to be difficult because there are not M Preview for Nexus 7 2013 to help a little, which has a similar hardware with our old N4.
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This was never confirmed though, right? We won't get the Dev Preview for the Nexus 4, but neither did we get that for Lollipop, if I recall correctly (only N5 and N7 did, I think).
jb91 said:
This was never confirmed though, right? We won't get the Dev Preview for the Nexus 4, but neither did we get that for Lollipop, if I recall correctly (only N5 and N7 did, I think).
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Yep, only Nexus 5 and 7 2013 got the L preview, but N7 2012 and N4 ended up getting the Lollipop update in the end.
Well, we did have an L Preview ported to Nexus 4, courtesy of @sykopompos, I see no reason why one wouldn't do the same for M Preview as well
Fatal1ty_93_RUS said:
Well, we did have an L Preview ported to Nexus 4, courtesy of @sykopompos, I see no reason why one wouldn't do the same for M Preview as well
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61029121&postcount=39169
If not a port of a factory image, the Nexus 4 will still get custom ROM support with M. If Devs can build CM12.1 on devices that never got past Jellybean, getting M on the Nexus 4 should be a cinch in comparison.
I'd be surprised if the N4 got official M from Google. The word is that from now on Nexuses will get 2 years of updates. Us N4 owners are just lucky that we were given a device so awesome it's still capable and relevant 2.5 (and counting) years later.
It would be awesome if we get it....there no question of the hardware being capable as there are no major changes, i guess.
@sykopompos
I don't know if it helps, but I downloaded Nexus 5 latest 5.1.1 (LMY48B) factory images and Nexus 5 - Preview M images and extracted both of them.
I found out that the bootloader and radio are exactly the same. I extracted the system.img from both of this builds and found out this differences:
http://pastebin.com/gLxpvWwT
I was thinking to download Nexus 4 latest 5.1.1 factory images and try to modify system.img based on this differences, it's a good start ? I think that I will need some kernel modifications (boot.img) after this steps, right?
Nexus 4 officially will NOT get M
https://plus.google.com/+AndreasProschofsky/posts/eH5z8VzqKfB
It's time to say bye for Nexus 4
micku7zu said:
@sykopompos
I don't know if it helps, but I downloaded Nexus 5 latest 5.1.1 (LMY48B) factory images and Nexus 5 - Preview M images and extracted both of them.
I found out that the bootloader and radio are exactly the same. I extracted the system.img from both of this builds and found out this differences:
http://pastebin.com/gLxpvWwT
I was thinking to download Nexus 4 latest 5.1.1 factory images and try to modify system.img based on this differences, it's a good start ? I think that I will need some kernel modifications (boot.img) after this steps, right?
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From the diff it doesn't look as tough as L so I guess it is going be atleast 50% less headbangs for @sykopompos .
Come on Señor
Relax, gonna be just fine, n4 and n7 2013 use nearly same proprietary blobs (not just gpu, but gps and NFC), so porting that to n4 will be piece of cake.
From the diff it doesn't look as tough as L so I guess it is going be atleast 50% less headbangs for @sykopompos .
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I doubt it'll even be 10%. M is nothing half as major as L.
It is almost certain that we won't get official M. We n4 users were lucky to get 5.1, not just ending at 5.0.
However, high quality ports from N7 or N5 will be available(imo). We won't have any trouble with custom rom support.
I am sure an awesome dev with help us out. Heck, my screen on my Galaxy S 4G (yes, prior to the S2) cracked last fall, I was running 4.4.4 ports on hardware with the terrible stats of the SGS4G thanks to the dev Ninjas at XDA.
I have no worries that while we might not get factory, we will get an as good, if not better port.
Has anyone seen a Moto X pure ROM port for Nexus 6? I've looked everywhere, nothing shows up.
A port of a rom from a device that nobody even has yet? That would be impressive.
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Its completely different hardware. People could not even port the Moto X Pro to the Nexus 6 and those are the same device.
This is not ever going to happen.
knitler said:
Its completely different hardware. People could not even port the Moto X Pro to the Nexus 6 and those are the same device.
This is not ever going to happen.
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Never say never in the android world. If miui, flyme, and other different os can be ported over to different phones then it is possible. Just gotta have the right amount of interest
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bigstunta101 said:
Never say never in the android world. If miui, flyme, and other different os can be ported over to different phones then it is possible. Just gotta have the right amount of interest
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Don't have Mui yet and have no clue what Flyme even is. So have a long wait coming unless you got a dev in your pocket.
There was a thread a while back where a few users were trying to port the OS from the Moto X Pro, but there didn't seem to be much interest in it so it died.
Since the Moto X Pure is running proprietary closed source software, on completely different hardware, I bet that there won't be a ROM port. Some apps maybe, but definitely not a full ROM. Very rarely do full closed sourced ROMs get ported between devices. And even when they do, there often are issues (performance or things just not working).
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Has anyone seen a Moto X pure ROM port for Nexus 6? I've looked everywhere, nothing shows up.
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Jeez, dude. The X Pure hasn't even been RELEASED yet. Patience.
I heard the ROM for Moto X Pure is pretty awesome. In the past, ROMs have leaked from devices when the device isn't even out. I don't know why there is a surprise I asked this? I just thought someone had more info then others. We will wait and see if anyone does decided to do something with it.
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I heard the ROM for Moto X Pure is pretty awesome. In the past, ROMs have leaked from devices when the device isn't even out. I don't know why there is a surprise I asked this? I just thought someone had more info then others. We will wait and see if anyone does decided to do something with it.
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I agree! I would like to see this ROM and use some of the Moto apps on the N6.
Getting an official version of AOSPA would be really unlikely to happen but do you guys think we should get unofficial port of it ?
Since the One Plus One has his own official ROM, and these devices aren't too different specs-wise, it shouldn't be too difficult to port to our device right ?
Really hoping to see AOSPA comming for Moto X 2014 Have a nice day
Was also hoping someone would port it over if it was possible. Loved using that ROM back in my Nexus 4 days.
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It's possible? Hard? Can be done?
I'm not wanting to have improvments, root, whatever, in the ROM, like Nexus Experience for example, but just the clean Nexus 6 ROM...
Both phones seems to have similar specs, besides the processor
Porting it from the nexus 6 would be more harder, the best way would be building it fron source
Would be awesome if anyone build Android Nougat from source for us until CyanogenMod 14 comes, we can feel the experience of pure newest version of Android.
Succeeded on moto pro.
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I appreciate the work that developers have done so far but I would like to ask is there any plans for Android Go Edition Oreo roms for Droid 4? Android Go could speed up the performance of Droid 4 since it is made for devices under 1Gb of ram. Check out from here:
https://www.android.com/versions/oreo-8-0/go-edition/
https://www.blog.google/products/android/introducing-android-oreo-go-edition/
There are some Android Go roms for Motorola Moto G 3rd gen for example:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/2015-moto-g/development/rom-pixel-experience-edition-t3717869
If we get Oreo up and running on Droid 4 it would be nice to see Anroid Go roms
This! We could even have Oreo or P on this device if this is possible!
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This! We could even have Oreo or P on this device if this is possible!
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Why would you want it though? Oreo and P are garbage UI wise, and have actually clamped down Functionality wise. This would just be a barebones version of what is already garbage. You are taking the make-up off the skeleton. It'd just be a skeleton now.