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[Q] 64GB unlocked developers HTC One. I have questions..

Hi all,
I'm about 90% sure that I'm going to buy the 64gb dev. HTC One. I'm still on Sprint but I think I'm done with them as they have seriously lost my confidence.
I don't have any experience with an unlocked phone that require a sim card and I'm kind of intimidated by that but I want to learn and see what kind of experience I have with an unlocked phone. I don't know how the whole sim card thing works and how it relates to Tmobile or At&t services, radio frequencies, 4glte, hspa+ etc.
I'm thinking of buying 2. One (no pun intended) for me and one for the wife. I guess my question is how do I make the transition from Sprint to Tmobile as quickly as and painless as possible. How do i explain an unlocked phone to my wife who also never been on another carrier other than sprint? What plan should I consider on Tmobile and or At&t. Which carrier's network is faster (I'm in Central NJ).
I understand the dev version has an unlocked bootloader. Does this mean it comes installed with a recovery and is it s-off / s-on?
I'm not a geek but I know how to flash roms/ kernels...basic sh*t you know.
If anyone can school me on what to expect form an unlocked phone and what I can do with it would be great. Will I be able to use sim cards from both tmobile and at&t on this phone?
Any help would be appreciated...

IIRC the Dev unit does not work on Sprint so you'd need to switch regardless.
You'll just have to get a new account and have them port the numbers over but you just won't be buying a phone on contract.
Most think it will have S-ON, but bootloader unlocked. This just means you can load ROMs, but they are locked to the kernel from HTC (not just any kernel which would be nice if you had S-OFF).
Yes, you can use a SIM from ATT and T-MO but remember that with T-MO unless you live in a new LTE zone or a refarmed 1900mhz HSPA+ band, you will be stuck with 2G speed.

htowngator said:
IIRC the Dev unit does not work on Sprint so you'd need to switch regardless.
You'll just have to get a new account and have them port the numbers over but you just won't be buying a phone on contract.
Most think it will have S-ON, but bootloader unlocked. This just means you can load ROMs, but they are locked to the kernel from HTC (not just any kernel which would be nice if you had S-OFF).
Yes, you can use a SIM from ATT and T-MO but remember that with T-MO unless you live in a new LTE zone or a refarmed 1900mhz HSPA+ band, you will be stuck with 2G speed.
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How do I find out if I'm in a re farmed 1900mhz HSPA+ area? Thanks for your help.

Anyone know how sim cards work?

help
i want buy htc with 2,5GHZ LTE version, where can i buy it on united states? miami or orlando...?
thanks very much

saco274 said:
How do I find out if I'm in a re farmed 1900mhz HSPA+ area? Thanks for your help.
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http://www.airportal.de/ -- map of 1900mhz
The SIM cards will be given to you by T-MO or ATT when you sign up.

htowngator said:
http://www.airportal.de/ -- map of 1900mhz
The SIM cards will be given to you by T-MO or ATT when you sign up.
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I see my good man. Thanks for all your help.

saco274 said:
I see my good man. Thanks for all your help.
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no problem, glad I could help
just go to T-MO or ATT store and tell them you have your own phone and simply want x-plan (whatever it is you're looking for)
obviously T-MO is nice for pre-paid, no contract, but unless you live in a new 1900mhz zone (or LTE) and the phone could possibly be flashed with t-mo's firmware (possibly opening up 1700) then stick with ATT

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no problem, glad I could help
just go to T-MO or ATT store and tell them you have your own phone and simply want x-plan (whatever it is you're looking for)
obviously T-MO is nice for pre-paid, no contract, but unless you live in a new 1900mhz zone (or LTE) and the phone could possibly be flashed with t-mo's firmware (possibly opening up 1700) then stick with ATT
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I just checked the refarmed 1900mhz map and I'm real close to i guess two towers. There's a **** load of them a few miles from me, but none at my address. Do you think I'll be able to pick up on that 1900mhz signal?

saco274 said:
I just checked the refarmed 1900mhz map and I'm real close to i guess two towers. There's a **** load of them a few miles from me, but none at my address. Do you think I'll be able to pick up on that 1900mhz signal?
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Wow, just checked all the area's where I usually go, NY (family), CT (work) and the 1900mhz is excellent except for where I live which is scattered but not that far away.
By they way, I just purchased 2 HTC One's. One for me and one for the wife! However, there on back order until they get there next shipment which they say is on the 24th of April. I'll keep you posted.

saco274 said:
I just checked the refarmed 1900mhz map and I'm real close to i guess two towers. There's a **** load of them a few miles from me, but none at my address. Do you think I'll be able to pick up on that 1900mhz signal?
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How close? If you're decently close to two towers you should be fine. To port your number from Sprint you will need to check four things,
1: Your account number. (Dial *2 for Sprint customer service from your Sprint phone for that)
2: Your account pin. (6-10 numbers)
3: If you have any time left on your Sprint contract. Keep in mind you most likely signed a 24 month contract, but upgrades roll around every 20 months. So even if you're elegible for upgrade there may still a early term fee from Sprint.
4 Basic information such as the main account holders name, billing address, etc.
Keep in mind that at the moment the 32 and 64gb versions are out of stock from HTC (for now) If you start up a new account on T-Mobile with unlocked devices you will be on what's called Month to Month pricing. This means that since you provided your own equipment, you will be able to cancel at any time with no termination fee. You will also have upgrades avalible from the get go since you didn't purchase subsidised equipment from them.
Good luck!

Acetherockr said:
How close? If you're decently close to two towers you should be fine. To port your number from Sprint you will need to check four things,
1: Your account number. (Dial *2 for Sprint customer service from your Sprint phone for that)
2: Your account pin. (6-10 numbers)
3: If you have any time left on your Sprint contract. Keep in mind you most likely signed a 24 month contract, but upgrades roll around every 20 months. So even if you're elegible for upgrade there may still a early term fee from Sprint.
4 Basic information such as the main account holders name, billing address, etc.
Keep in mind that at the moment the 32 and 64gb versions are out of stock from HTC (for now) If you start up a new account on T-Mobile with unlocked devices you will be on what's called Month to Month pricing. This means that since you provided your own equipment, you will be able to cancel at any time with no termination fee. You will also have upgrades avalible from the get go since you didn't purchase subsidised equipment from them.
Good luck!
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Wow, this is great information. From what I can see on the coverage maps the coverage is excellent. I just purchased 2 HTC One phones. However, as you said there out of stock and I'm on back order. I talked to representative and they said there next shipment of phones are not coming until the 24th of this month. Also. are the dev phones gsm phones as well?

saco274 said:
Wow, this is great information. From what I can see on the coverage maps the coverage is excellent. I just purchased 2 HTC One phones. However, as you said there out of stock and I'm on back order. I talked to representative and they said there next shipment of phones are not coming until the 24th of this month. Also. are the dev phones gsm phones as well?
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Fantastic! Yes, the Developer Edition is factory unlocked GSM There are two types of phone radios CDMA (Verizon, Sprint, Boost, etc) And GSM (At&t, T-Mobile, and basically every other international carrier) A locked phone is basically a phone configured to only accept a certain carriers network baseband. Unlocked is, well.. Unlocked! :laugh:

Acetherockr said:
Fantastic! Yes, the Developer Edition is factory unlocked GSM There are two types of phone radios CDMA (Verizon, Sprint, Boost, etc) And GSM (At&t, T-Mobile, and basically every other international carrier) A locked phone is basically a phone configured to only accept a certain carriers network baseband. Unlocked is, well.. Unlocked! :laugh:
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I'm so amped, can't wait!!!
Ok, the boot loader is unlocked but will i be able to achieve s-off on this bad boy. I have a EVO 4G LTE rooted s-off phone now but how does that work with unlocked phones? Also, you mentioned updates. Will they come straight from Google like they do on the nexus phone?

saco274 said:
I'm so amped, can't wait!!!
Ok, the boot loader is unlocked but will i be able to achieve s-off on this bad boy. I have a EVO 4G LTE rooted s-off phone now but how does that work with unlocked phones? Also, you mentioned updates. Will they come straight from Google like they do on the nexus phone?
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I don't think anyone has been able to get s-off this early, and if so it'd require access to a PC to use fastboot commands. Once more developers get their hands on one, it'll (hopefully) be a somewhat painless process. As far as updates go it will most likely be in the same boat as the carrier versions. One more reason having the a rooted dev version would be the bomb.com.

Enquiry
Dear Team
Anyone knows how to unlock HTC One, Carrier Sprint, USA
My phone also not asking for code when i insert the international sim.

aryanz said:
Dear Team
Anyone knows how to unlock HTC One, Carrier Sprint, USA
My phone also not asking for code when i insert the international sim.
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Trying asking in the Sprint One forum
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 2

Get a Moto X on AT&T or T-Mobile?

Basically my old Sensation is screaming die and I have my eyes on the Moto X, but I can't decide if I should wait and stick with T-Mobile or switch to AT&T. Main things I'm considering:
I would like to use Moto Maker, which AT&T has for at least 2 months (according to rumors).
T-Mobile should be getting the black or white versions "soon."
T-Mobile's plans are $10-20 per month cheaper for my situation, assuming current cost estimates of the Moto X.
T-Mobile might have less bloatware (no carrier branding in the notification area).
I guess what it really comes down to: Is AT&T's network/user experience that much better than T-Mobile's to justify the increased cost, bloatware, and exclusive customization? While the weight of Moto Maker is definitely a personal thing, please let me know your thoughts on the difference in the networks? Having only used a smartphone the T-mobile network, I just don't know if there would even be a discernible difference.
Thanks! :good:

felisen said:
Basically my old Sensation is screaming die and I have my eyes on the Moto X, but I can't decide if I should wait and stick with T-Mobile or switch to AT&T. Main things I'm considering:
I would like to use Moto Maker, which AT&T has for at least 2 months (according to rumors).
T-Mobile should be getting the black or white versions "soon."
T-Mobile's plans are $10-20 per month cheaper for my situation, assuming current cost estimates of the Moto X.
T-Mobile might have less bloatware (no carrier branding in the notification area).
I guess what it really comes down to: Is AT&T's network/user experience that much better than T-Mobile's to justify the increased cost, bloatware, and exclusive customization? While the weight of Moto Maker is definitely a personal thing, please let me know your thoughts on the difference in the networks? Having only used a smartphone the T-mobile network, I just don't know if there would even be a discernible difference.
Thanks! :good:
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It will vary from city to city, but unless I was really strapped for cash, I'd pay $10 extra for AT&T. Here in DC, I'm always on LTE on ATT, but on T-Mobile I'd say I saw edge at least a couple of times per week.
Sent from my XT1058

There is surprisingly little bloatware on the at&t model.
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linuxgator said:
There is surprisingly little bloatware on the at&t model.
Sent from my XT1058 using Tapatalk 2
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Good to know thanks! I guess my only worries with respect to the bloatware is the AT&T logo in the notification area and something about an app that constantly popups asking to use it when calling someone (or something like that, it may have just been speculation I read).

I was going to start a new topic, but this forum is essentially the subject I wanted to ask about:
I'm thinking about getting the T-Mobile version of the Moto X because from everything I've read in these forums it's a bloatware-free device and has an unlocked SIM and (maybe) an unlockable bootloader.
I'd get the device to use on AT&T. What are the disadvantages of doing this (if any)?
-It sounds like there could be issues activating? Should I count on any such issues being surmountable?
-Will I receive over-the-air software updates?
-Will signal strength be in any way impacted?
-Will I have all the frequencies I need? I saw someone write that the T-Mobile version supports LTE bands 4 , 12 , 17 and the AT&T version supports bands 2, 4, 5, 17. It seems like in the USA AT&T only uses 4 and 17?
-What about 3G and voice signals?
-Using the phone overseas, say, Europe?
-Will any of this affect battery life compared with just using an AT&T phone on the AT&T network?
-People have said that if you unlock the bootloader you void the warranty. Whose warranty--Motorola's? Would this include dropping the phone and breaking the glass? I was considering getting an extended warranty--would someone like SquareTrade care about an unlocked bootloader if physical damage occurred?
Lastly, people have said that the AT&T version of the phone is not bad in terms of bloatware. Does anyone think it makes more sense to just get the AT&T version of the phone?
That's a lot of questions. Any insight into any of them will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!

This might help you guys to decide:
The reason T-Mobile users need to get this model is because it's the only Moto X which supports T-Mobile's HSPA+ 42 network on the AWS band. The AT&T-compatible Moto X supports T-Mobile's LTE, but not the HSPA band, which means that if you fall off of LTE you'll be in T-Mobile's much more limited, slower 1900MHz HSPA+ 21 coverage.

likeybikey said:
I was going to start a new topic, but this forum is essentially the subject I wanted to ask about:
I'm thinking about getting the T-Mobile version of the Moto X because from everything I've read in these forums it's a bloatware-free device and has an unlocked SIM and (maybe) an unlockable bootloader.
I'd get the device to use on AT&T. What are the disadvantages of doing this (if any)?
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Okay, I'll answer what I can here. I just got my tmo Moto X from the recent discount and I have lines with both T-Mobile and AT&T.
-It sounds like there could be issues activating? Should I count on any such issues being surmountable?
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I had no issues swapping either operator's SIM into my phone. It was SIM unlocked out of the box and the AT&T SIM worked great--native tethering even worked without a mod (sadly still see no solution for native tmo tethering).
-Will I receive over-the-air software updates?
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I would expect you to receive the same OTA updates as anyone running a tmo Moto X regardless of the att SIM.
-Will signal strength be in any way impacted?
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No. Many AT&T devices display more bars for a given signal strength than the same device on other operators (i.e. AT&T falsely makes signal look better than it is); I don't know if the AT&T Moto X does that or not, but it's just a display thing and not an actual difference.
-Will I have all the frequencies I need? I saw someone write that the T-Mobile version supports LTE bands 4 , 12 , 17 and the AT&T version supports bands 2, 4, 5, 17. It seems like in the USA AT&T only uses 4 and 17?
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My understanding is that those frequencies are correct. I get LTE on both operators just fine.
-What about 3G and voice signals?
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I haven't had any issues with either. Your frequency bands are all covered for everything AT&T does here in the US.
-Using the phone overseas, say, Europe?
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The AT&T version may be more likely to get LTE there--I am not familiar with the LTE bands used in Europe--but neither will have trouble attaching to the various European 3G networks (assuming you somehow convince AT&T to give you a SIM unlock code, or pay for one). Also if you include Canada in your calculations, a number of their networks will benefit from HSPA over AWS.
-Will any of this affect battery life compared with just using an AT&T phone on the AT&T network?
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It shouldn't.
-People have said that if you unlock the bootloader you void the warranty. Whose warranty--Motorola's? Would this include dropping the phone and breaking the glass? I was considering getting an extended warranty--would someone like SquareTrade care about an unlocked bootloader if physical damage occurred?
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Yes, Motorola's warranty. As for other stuff, you'd have to ask SquareTrade (or whoever) to be sure, but I don't really see how unlocking the bootloader would make them reluctant to replace your cracked-glass phone.
Lastly, people have said that the AT&T version of the phone is not bad in terms of bloatware. Does anyone think it makes more sense to just get the AT&T version of the phone?
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If you're buying unlocked anyway, I think the tmo version is an easy choice unless you desperately need a new nano-SIM (though I think AT&T will give you one for free if you drop by a store). The bloatware may not be that bad on the AT&T version, but you have to use some awkward hacks to get system r/w and the like. Of course if you're willing to do that, then you can kill the bloatware anyway.

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No. Many AT&T devices display more bars for a given signal strength than the same device on other operators (i.e. AT&T falsely makes signal look better than it is); I don't know if the AT&T Moto X does that or not, but it's just a display thing and not an actual difference.
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Funny you should mention that. The AT&T 4.4 build has 5 bars to display the cellular signal strength, the tmobile 4.4 build only has 4. It is quite odd they are not the same, wonder who wanted something different...

Steve-x said:
Funny you should mention that. The AT&T 4.4 build has 5 bars to display the cellular signal strength, the tmobile 4.4 build only has 4. It is quite odd they are not the same, wonder who wanted something different...
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I believe AT&T using five bars vs. T-Mobile's four predates their cheating on signal strength, but I could be wrong. I've only been a T-Mobile customer for about a year (and have now almost entirely phased out AT&T, woohoo!).
The lesson is that signal bars are misleading at best, meaningless and confounding at worst. Check the numeric signal strength if you're interested in knowing how good your signal really is.

Super-awesome reply! Thank you so much for taking the time to answer my questions. It really helps my decision process (I'm feeling emboldened to go for the T-Mobile version), and I'm sure this will help others as well. Thanks again!
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Okay, I'll answer what I can here. I just got my tmo Moto X from the recent discount and I have lines with both T-Mobile and AT&T.
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As someone who just received his discounted Off-Contract T-Mobile Moto X, I have to recommend it. I got the $150 promotional discount and was curious myself as to which carrier version to buy. From all of the information gathered here on XDA, I made the choice to go with T-Mobile (and have no regrets, yet). I'd go into details on why I chose T-Mobile and such, but teiglin has already provided great (and accurate) answers to your questions.
So instead, I'll give you a quick recap:
- The T-Mobile version of the Moto X has absolutely no branding that I can find. Literally the only T-Mobile symbol I could find on the phone (software or hardware) was inside of it, on the T-Mobile Nano-SIM card.
- [From what I've read: motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/87215/] The T-Mobile version is essentially the developer's edition without the additional warranty coverage for unlocking your bootloader.
- The T-Mobile version of the Moto X has almost the same frequency bands as the AT&T version (except it also supports the HSDPA 1700 MHz band and doesn't support the LTE 850 MHz band)
Copied from GSMArena: gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_x-5601.php
2G Network
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - all versions
CDMA 800 / 1900 - for Verizon, Sprint​3G Network
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - for AT&T, Verizon
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - for T-Mobile
CDMA2000 1xEV-DO - for Verizon
HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100 - for Sprint​4G Network
LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - for AT&T
LTE 700 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - for T-Mobile
LTE 700 MHz Class 13 - for Verizon
LTE 1900 - for Sprint​
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My Moto X usage:
I'm a former AT&T customer, having recently switched to Straight Talk through their BYOP (Bring Your Own Phone) program. I was still using the Motorola Atrix with a Mini-SIM card purchased from Straight Talk (the AT&T compatible one).
After receiving the $150 promo code and remembering the $100 old Motorola phones trade in program, it seemed like the right time to make the move and upgrade ($500 retail down to $250 after rebates/promotions). I placed my order on December 5th and was told it would arrive by the 10th (came on the 11th due to snow).
Once I got my Moto X, all I had to do was cut my Mini-SIM card down to a Nano-SIM card. Templates can be found here: airportal.de/nanosim/. Aside from the network cutting in and out (lasted for the first 10 minutes or so), I've had no problems since. I have access to 4G LTE and everything else seems to be working fine (haven't tried tethering yet).
In the end, I'd recommend the T-Mobile version just because there is no branding and it works fine on the AT&T network as well.

Thanks for adding to teiglin's reply! Good information for anyone interested in this phone!
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As someone who just received his discounted Off-Contract T-Mobile Moto X, I have to recommend it. I got the $150 promotional discount and was curious myself as to which carrier version to buy. From all of the information gathered here on XDA, I made the choice to go with T-Mobile (and have no regrets, yet). I'd go into details on why I chose T-Mobile and such, but teiglin has already provided great (and accurate) answers to your questions.
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4g 4glte
semaj1919 said:
As someone who just received his discounted Off-Contract T-Mobile Moto X, I have to recommend it. I got the $150 promotional discount and was curious myself as to which carrier version to buy. From all of the information gathered here on XDA, I made the choice to go with T-Mobile (and have no regrets, yet). I'd go into details on why I chose T-Mobile and such, but teiglin has already provided great (and accurate) answers to your questions.
So instead, I'll give you a quick recap:
- The T-Mobile version of the Moto X has absolutely no branding that I can find. Literally the only T-Mobile symbol I could find on the phone (software or hardware) was inside of it, on the T-Mobile Nano-SIM card.
- [From what I've read: motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/87215/] The T-Mobile version is essentially the developer's edition without the additional warranty coverage for unlocking your bootloader.
- The T-Mobile version of the Moto X has almost the same frequency bands as the AT&T version (except it also supports the HSDPA 1700 MHz band and doesn't support the LTE 850 MHz band)
My Moto X usage:
I'm a former AT&T customer, having recently switched to Straight Talk through their BYOP (Bring Your Own Phone) program. I was still using the Motorola Atrix with a Mini-SIM card purchased from Straight Talk (the AT&T compatible one).
After receiving the $150 promo code and remembering the $100 old Motorola phones trade in program, it seemed like the right time to make the move and upgrade ($500 retail down to $250 after rebates/promotions). I placed my order on December 5th and was told it would arrive by the 10th (came on the 11th due to snow).
Once I got my Moto X, all I had to do was cut my Mini-SIM card down to a Nano-SIM card. Templates can be found here: airportal.de/nanosim/. Aside from the network cutting in and out (lasted for the first 10 minutes or so), I've had no problems since. I have access to 4G LTE and everything else seems to be working fine (haven't tried tethering yet).
In the end, I'd recommend the T-Mobile version just because there is no branding and it works fine on the AT&T network as well.
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I got the TMO version for use on AT&T. No branding at all.
I went to the AT&T store and they put in a new sim. I'm getting perfect service though I only see the 4G at the top. Wondering if I should also be seeing 4GLTE? Is there something else I need to do to get LTE speeds? Or am I already getting them and just don't see it?

Look here in xda, you won't get lte unless ATT registers your Moto with an imei from another ATT Moto. I had the same issue. There's a post here in xda where you will see what I had to do and who helped me
Rocking the new Moto X
Woop Woop

likeybikey said:
-People have said that if you unlock the bootloader you void the warranty. Whose warranty--Motorola's? Would this include dropping the phone and breaking the glass? I was considering getting an extended warranty--would someone like SquareTrade care about an unlocked bootloader if physical damage occurred?
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I remember reading somewhere a chat between a potential customer and a Motorola rep. The rep said that unlocking it voids the entire warranty with Motorola, hardware included. So you would have to check with whoever else you could get the warranty with.
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nelsonccc said:
I got the TMO version for use on AT&T. No branding at all.
I went to the AT&T store and they put in a new sim. I'm getting perfect service though I only see the 4G at the top. Wondering if I should also be seeing 4GLTE? Is there something else I need to do to get LTE speeds? Or am I already getting them and just don't see it?
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Sorry for the late response. I actually had to check my phone a few times just to confirm my thoughts before posting them here. I can't really comment on 4G and 4G LTE for AT&T, because I have Straight Talk. But from what I've read, I believe Straight Talk piggy-backs on AT&T's network as is, so I'd imagine it'd have to be similar.
I've been noticing the 4G icon in the notification bar also indicates 'LTE', although not all the time. There are times where I also see only the 4G icon without the 'LTE' symbol, during which speed tests have been much slower. Can't confirm what r_diaz13 posted, and I don't know if what he's saying applies to people on Straight Talk's network.

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Look here in xda, you won't get lte unless ATT registers your Moto with an imei from another ATT Moto. I had the same issue. There's a post here in xda where you will see what I had to do and who helped me
Rocking the new Moto X
Woop Woop
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This is WRONG.
Totally NOT necessary to use an IMEI from a different LTE phone.
I just activated an XT1053 (the TMo version, which is SIM unlocked).
Put in an AT&T nano-sim card which I picked up from my AT&T company owned store.
Called in to activate the card -- but asked to talk to 2nd level support since I knew 1st level would NOT be able to help and likely tell me the same kind of dumb stuff I've seen posted about how to get the phone to work.
2nd level support was great -- and because I knew what I was talking about, it took less than 5 min to take care of what is necessary.
You will need to manually enter MMSC and MMS Proxy in the APN settings
MMSC should be:
-https://mmsc.mobile.att.net-
don't enter with the dash at front and back, the forum doesn't let you post what they think are links if you are new.
MMS proxy should be:
proxy.mobile.att.net
Just as an FYI -- these settings are BURIED (you cannot see them) on the AT&T version --
And these settings are NOT DOWNLOADED AUTOMATICALLY via SIM card (I thought they might be).
You can confirm whether you are getting LTE service not only by the indicator in the status bar up at the top with signal strength but by going into ABOUT PHONE from the Settings menu (scroll all the way down). Then in that menu, click on STATUS. Here you will scroll down and see the battery level, network signal strength and mobile network type.
If you are getting 4G only, it would should HSPA+.
If you are getting LTE, it will show LTE here.
Hope that helps.
I'm just a bit weary of seeing the wrong information on this and hope this helps others out. The TMo version works great on AT&T, you just have to enter the MMSC and MMS proxy manually and you should be good to go.

Did you have an LTE plan before? I'm telling you it is true. The xda member that helped me out is an att employee who works at a att store and he was the only one able to do it. He told me since I didn't have an lte plan before it wouldn't just pick up lte. ATT has to end other feature in the account. When I gave then the tmo imei, it shows up as gsm only, not lte.
So if you already have lte, you are good to go with just a simple sim swap. If you don't have lte already, you need to follow these steps. Nothing to do with APN settings or anything.
Rocking the new Moto X
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r_diaz13 said:
Did you have an LTE plan before? I'm telling you it is true. The xda member that helped me out is an att employee who works at a att store and he was the only one able to do it. He told me since I didn't have an lte plan before it wouldn't just pick up lte. ATT has to end other feature in the account. When I gave then the tmo imei, it shows up as gsm only, not lte.
So if you already have lte, you are good to go with just a simple sim swap. If you don't have lte already, you need to follow these steps. Nothing to do with APN settings or anything.
Rocking the new Moto X
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This is wrong information -- hopefully people here read through to get the accurate information.
I did NOT have an LTE plan before (I had a Moto Atrix 4G, which gave me HSPA+ service).
When I gave them the IMEI from the TMo Moto X I purchased, I asked them specifically, what does it show in your system?
2nd level support told me it was a non-ATT version of the Moto X -- totally accurate.
She then knew exactly what settings were needed (as I noted above in my post) to be entered. These settings are not shown anywhere on the AT&T version of the Moto X (again, I know because I have 3 of those that I unlocked).
To be clear to anyone else thinking of getting the TMo version of the Moto X. You do not need to lie and give them some other IMEI. You simply need to make sure you have those settings input into your phone. As soon as they were entered, my TMo XT1053 showed LTE service.
Please do not continue to give out wrong information -- this may have solved the problem for you (to give a different IMEI), but it is totally not necessary. I have seen people asking about how they are supposed to get an LTE IMEI to activate a nano sim card and get LTE service. It is not necessary on the TMo version (now Moto says this is the GSM unlocked version -- which is really more accurate because it has absolutely NO BRANDING and no other software from any provider -- and is exactly the same as the Dev Edition except for the fact that the Dev edition can be bootloader unlocked and retain its warranty).

I have the Dev Version (same as T-Mobile) running on Straight Talk with AT&T. Other than one small configuration issue in the phone settings LTE is working fine.

T-Mobile Moto x question - activation

I know that tmobile moto x is not carrier/sim locked, read it in many threads here.
But does it need to be activated with tmobile sim first time?

mihir24 said:
I know that tmobile moto x is not carrier/sim locked, read it in many threads here.
But does it need to be activated with tmobile sim first time?
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No.

T-Mobile Networks
Well, I hope it's true that the T-Mobile comes with the Sim unlocked... I think I'll buy it tomorrow with the promotion of the cyber-monday extension.
But I'm a little worried about the T-mobile version network support, you see, most people, including me, of my country buy Unlocked ATT variants from the US, because here we only have these networks:
850 - Movistar / C&W Panama
1900 - Claro
1800/1900 - Digicel
I'm with Claro so I'll need 1900.
Since most of the ATT variants work with those bands, people over here buy those... While T-Mobile variants don't. But now I'm seeing that the Moto X from T-Mobile supports four 2G GSM bands (850/900/1800/1900) and comes with five UMTS bands (850/900/1700/1900/2100).
I'm not checking the LTE capabilities, since my country hasn't implemented it yet, and when they will, I'll probably won't use it after some years ($$$).
So, does this phone really works for me? I thought of buying an ATT variant but it seems some persons here (xda community) had problems unlocking the sim... (I don't mind paying to get it unlocked) One even posted that couldn't unlocked, used all the tries and had to put it on sale trough eBay :crying:
Well, what do you guys think of this...? Really, really crossing my fingers here :fingers-crossed: (Just checking the bands here, not much interested on rooting the phone, actually scared too. Don't wan't to hard brick anything )

Darel18 said:
Well, I hope it's true that the T-Mobile comes with the Sim unlocked... I think I'll buy it tomorrow with the promotion of the cyber-monday extension.
But I'm a little worried about the T-mobile version network support, you see, most people, including me, of my country buy Unlocked ATT variants from the US, because here we only have these networks:
850 - Movistar / C&W Panama
1900 - Claro
1800/1900 - Digicel
I'm with Claro so I'll need 1900.
Since most of the ATT variants work with those bands, people over here buy those... While T-Mobile variants don't. But now I'm seeing that the Moto X from T-Mobile supports four 2G GSM bands (850/900/1800/1900) and comes with five UMTS bands (850/900/1700/1900/2100).
I'm not checking the LTE capabilities, since my country hasn't implemented it yet, and when they will, I'll probably won't use it after some years ($$$).
So, does this phone really works for me? I thought of buying an ATT variant but it seems some persons here (xda community) had problems unlocking the sim... (I don't mind paying to get it unlocked) One even posted that couldn't unlocked, used all the tries and had to put it on sale trough eBay :crying:
Well, what do you guys think of this...? Really, really crossing my fingers here :fingers-crossed: (Just checking the bands here, not much interested on rooting the phone, actually scared too. Don't wan't to hard brick anything )
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If the T-Mo one supports the bands you need then why roll the dice with the AT&T version? If you really want the AT&T version and AT&T won't unlock it for you then you can just return it. If you want to get in on the sale price and don't want to risk anything then buy one of each so at least you will have the T-Mo one to fall back on. Just some suggestions. I am not really familiar with bands and sim unlocking and how it's done.

Darel18 said:
Well, I hope it's true that the T-Mobile comes with the Sim unlocked... I think I'll buy it tomorrow with the promotion of the cyber-monday extension.
But I'm a little worried about the T-mobile version network support, you see, most people, including me, of my country buy Unlocked ATT variants from the US, because here we only have these networks:
850 - Movistar / C&W Panama
1900 - Claro
1800/1900 - Digicel
I'm with Claro so I'll need 1900.
Since most of the ATT variants work with those bands, people over here buy those... While T-Mobile variants don't. But now I'm seeing that the Moto X from T-Mobile supports four 2G GSM bands (850/900/1800/1900) and comes with five UMTS bands (850/900/1700/1900/2100).
I'm not checking the LTE capabilities, since my country hasn't implemented it yet, and when they will, I'll probably won't use it after some years ($$$).
So, does this phone really works for me? I thought of buying an ATT variant but it seems some persons here (xda community) had problems unlocking the sim... (I don't mind paying to get it unlocked) One even posted that couldn't unlocked, used all the tries and had to put it on sale trough eBay :crying:
Well, what do you guys think of this...? Really, really crossing my fingers here :fingers-crossed: (Just checking the bands here, not much interested on rooting the phone, actually scared too. Don't wan't to hard brick anything )
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I am also thinking to buy one tomorrow.

[email protected] said:
If the T-Mo one supports the bands you need then why roll the dice with the AT&T version? If you really want the AT&T version and AT&T won't unlock it for you then you can just return it. If you want to get in on the sale price and don't want to risk anything then buy one of each so at least you will have the T-Mo one to fall back on. Just some suggestions. I am not really familiar with bands and sim unlocking and how it's done.
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Oh, just wanted to be extra sure that this version will work with the bands available here at Panama... Guess there's nothing weird with that variant of the Moto X having 5 UMTS bands instead of 4 like the others.
Anyway, I'll post my feedback later when I buy and get the product, wish me luck and thanks :victory:
mihir24 said:
I am also thinking to buy one tomorrow.
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Wish you the best of luck bro! :good:

Guys... look at this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2546466&highlight=sim+network+unlock
From what the whole thread states the tmobile version is sim unlocked out of the box even through moto maker. In fact they are stating that there is little difference between the tmobile and dev edition.
So from the whole thread there I will pruchase tmobile. Verizon is unlocked but does not have the correct radios for my countries 3g network. Att does but I do not want to have to go through the hastle of unlocking it... even if its simple to buy a code.
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Darel18 said:
Oh, just wanted to be extra sure that this version will work with the bands available here at Panama... Guess there's nothing weird with that variant of the Moto X having 5 UMTS bands instead of 4 like the others.
Anyway, I'll post my feedback later when I buy and get the product, wish me luck and thanks :victory:
Wish you the best of luck bro! :good:
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Also go to the companies and ask what bands they work with expecially the 3g and 4g. I know first hand that Verizon does not support most of the bands in central america... Ive had verizon phones here and they only get 2g sometimes. And good luck with going to the companies... most people there have no idea... and they will stare at you with a blank look on their face when you ask about bands and will probably try to sell you a phone. So be patient.
Also... keep us updated!!

I have an Claro Chile phone using tmobile kit kat and works 2g, 3g, h/h+, 4g LTE bands without any issies

[Q] newbie question, AT&T or TMO Moto X outside US

Hey all,
Hope this is in the right place. Saw a few similar questions, but nothing exactly like what I was looking for.
I currently have a VZW Galaxy Nexus, rooted, running Shiny ROM with Xposed and GravityBox. Thinking about dumping VZW and going to a Moto X on AT&T or TMO, both prepaid. Question is, which carrier's phone would I be able to use outside the US? I'll be going to Europe this summer and would like to purchase a local SIM in Europe and use it there, instead of paying roaming fees on AT&T or TMO.
According to Wikipedia (can't post link) and what I've read on here, the TMO version is SIM unlocked. So this means it will work on all GSM carriers, right? In the US, that would be AT&T (if TMO doesn't have good signal where I live), and when I travel, that means I can use a local SIM, correct?
Thanks in advance, any help is appreciated!

lmm5247 said:
Hey all,
Hope this is in the right place. Saw a few similar questions, but nothing exactly like what I was looking for.
I currently have a VZW Galaxy Nexus, rooted, running Shiny ROM with Xposed and GravityBox. Thinking about dumping VZW and going to a Moto X on AT&T or TMO, both prepaid. Question is, which carrier's phone would I be able to use outside the US? I'll be going to Europe this summer and would like to purchase a local SIM in Europe and use it there, instead of paying roaming fees on AT&T or TMO.
According to Wikipedia (can't post link) and what I've read on here, the TMO version is SIM unlocked. So this means it will work on all GSM carriers, right? In the US, that would be AT&T (if TMO doesn't have good signal where I live), and when I travel, that means I can use a local SIM, correct?
Thanks in advance, any help is appreciated!
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Yep, that's correct. T-mo is SIM unlocked. I use mine with AT&T actually too. It should work abroad with no trouble other than tracking down a local nano sim or cutting one down.
If however you want to use LTE abroad I don't think the bands in the T-Mobile version match those used in Europe. HSPA+ should work fine though.
From my experience when traveling abroad a prepaid SIM w/ LTE was way more expensive than something I wanted just for being able to gchat home and look up directions on gmaps so it was a moot point.

superm1 said:
Yep, that's correct. T-mo is SIM unlocked. I use mine with AT&T actually too. It should work abroad with no trouble other than tracking down a local nano sim or cutting one down.
If however you want to use LTE abroad I don't think the bands in the T-Mobile version match those used in Europe. HSPA+ should work fine though.
From my experience when traveling abroad a prepaid SIM w/ LTE was way more expensive than something I wanted just for being able to gchat home and look up directions on gmaps so it was a moot point.
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Thanks, that's exactly what I was looking for! I figured LTE wouldn't work in Europe, I was fine with settling for HSPA+ or 3G.
Found a thread here explaining the differences between AT&T, TMO, and Dev Edition. From what I can see, the TMO edition is more flexible than the AT&T edition. Only difference compared to Dev Edition is that unlocking the bootloader on TMO voids your warranty.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2546466

lmm5247 said:
Thanks, that's exactly what I was looking for! I figured LTE wouldn't work in Europe, I was fine with settling for HSPA+ or 3G.
Found a thread here explaining the differences between AT&T, TMO, and Dev Edition. From what I can see, the TMO edition is more flexible than the AT&T edition. Only difference compared to Dev Edition is that unlocking the bootloader on TMO voids your warranty.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2546466
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LTE works in Europe although is not yet as widely spreaded as in the USA. But you'll be fine with 3G which is fast enough and most countries are well covered with that network. More important issue is roaming if you are planning to visit different countries. You must switch between different operators and even using service from the same operator in different states ( e.g. T-mobile) imply roaming charges. In my opinion the best solution is using local sim with best data plan and voip for calling in every country. If you don't want to switch sim cards, you may find the best roaming solution with prepaid Vodafone Italy. You can buy its clone online (http://www.motorhomewifi.com/product/europa-sim-roaming-data-sim-card/) and refill it in any Vodafone shop around Europe.

Straight Talk

Can i use straight talk on this phone? I am assuming I would need to use the Verizon SIM card (CDMA LTE) kit? I only ask because Straight Talk's website claims the phone is incompatible based on the IMEI #. I have the XT1254.

Raistlen0 said:
Can i use straight talk on this phone? I am assuming I would need to use the Verizon SIM card (CDMA LTE) kit? I only ask because Straight Talk's website claims the phone is incompatible based on the IMEI #. I have the XT1254.
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You could also use it on "AT&T" and "T-Mobile" Straight Talk. You would only get LTE bands 2 & 4 for both those carriers, but would also have access to HSPA bands.
The Droid Turbo is carrier unlocked. Many people use it on T-Mobile and AT&T.

ChazzMatt said:
You could also use it on "AT&T" and "T-Mobile" Straight Talk. You would only get LTE bands 2 & 4 for both those carriers, but would also have access to HSPA bands.
The Droid Turbo is carrier unlocked. Many people use it on T-Mobile and AT&T.
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Thanks for the reply that is how I understood it. I was just confused as to why Straight Talk was telling me it was incompatible. Perhapse they "know" I still owe Verizon one more payment on it.
Another question: I know you use ATT; do you know of a map that shows what bands ATT uses where for LTE?

Raistlen0 said:
Thanks for the reply that is how I understood it. I was just confused as to why Straight Talk was telling me it was incompatible. Perhapse they "know" I still owe Verizon one more payment on it.
Another question: I know you use ATT; do you know of a map that shows what bands ATT uses where for LTE?
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I know LTE Discovery app captures location LTE bands, but I don't know if they have a public map the way Open Signal does.
Open Signal shows LTE availability for various carriers, but I don't they differentiate by which band.

Raistlen0 said:
Thanks for the reply that is how I understood it. I was just confused as to why Straight Talk was telling me it was incompatible. Perhapse they "know" I still owe Verizon one more payment on it.
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Yes, you probably don't have a "clean" IMEI right now.
Once your contract is fulfilled, it will probably show OK.