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is it illegal to mod g1 and give them root

Hi to all i was just wondering if it is illegal to mod other peoples phone because i am in school and i mod peoples phone you know give them root and change boot img (like the T-mobile G1/My Touch 3G) and my dad thinks its illegal and want me to stop he also thinks that some one is going to connect it to a bomb and blame me i just want to get some other peoples views and such thanks for you feed back!-)

I'm pretty sure the "modding G1 and giving them root" police are only in Oregon, so you should be ok. Although I hear they are expanding their field offices to include Fargo, ND and North Grovesnerdale, CT so be on the lookout if you are near those areas.
In all serious, I think you are fine.....

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I'm pretty sure the "modding G1 and giving them root" police are only in Oregon, so you should be ok. Although I hear they are expanding their field offices to include Fargo, ND and North Grovesnerdale, CT so be on the lookout if you are near those areas.
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**** good lookin out. I don't want to go to jail... haha

Ahahhhahahahaahahahahahahhahahahhahahaahahahahahhaahha! Ok, now that I got that out of my system. It is not illegal to mod an electronic device. When it becomes illegal is when you mod the device to do illegal actions, like play burnt copies of video games, or run illegal version of operating systems, etc. With that said, modding your g1/mt3g is just fine. As long as your not modding the phone to be a detonator for a nuclear bomb, your fine. Be sure to issue a disclaimer before modding anyone's phone. You don't want anyone coming back to your demanding money for a bricked phone. Just let them know that your trained in what you do, but there is still no guarantee that everything will go as planned. I've modded a couple of peoples g1's and I had them reply to an email with my personal disclaimer. Just as a back up...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SUPER FUNNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but seriously...when I was younger I ALWAYS questioned if my actions hack/mod wise were legal......

fyi, it's now only illegal to load an old cyanogen mod with the proprietary google apps (for now, who knows what the future will bring legislation wise) .....according to google.....and probably their power lawyers.

While we are on the subject of legallity?
Hi to all i was just wondering if it is illegal to watch interspecies erotica? Because i am in school and i watch people you know give them root, and my dad thinks its illegal and want me to stop. he also thinks that some one is going to connect it to the web and blame me. i just want to get some other peoples views and such thanks for you feed back!-)
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LOL
just keep clear of any suspicious activities.... if someone asks for your help in making something that goes boom...its more than likely an fbi agent

It's not illegal unless you distribute copyrighted software. If you are simply rooting the phone you are fine, but if you have to downgrade it you are technically redistributing software without a license to do so. Either way I wouldn't worry about them coming to knock on your door for flashing a few kids phones.
On another note. Although it may make you the cool guy in class who can mod phones, I would advise you tell them to learn on their own. Otherwise you will end up being tech support for countless idiots who don't know what to do with root. Do you really feel like spending hours walking people through a Hero rom install, or SD partitioning? Cause that's what you are asking for by doing so.
The whole point of performing such mods is for the learning experience, and expanding the capabilities of your device for personal enjoyment. It's not so people can say "look what I can do" or "my phone is cooler than yours". My opinion is: If you won't put forth the effort to read and learn how, you don't need it.
You probably spent a good bit of time learning what you have. I know it feels great to be able to show off those skills, but in the long run they will thank you for making them learn rather than doing it for them.

gurnted said:
On another note. Although it may make you the cool guy in class who can mod phones, I would advise you tell them to learn on their own. Otherwise you will end up being tech support for countless idiots who don't know what to do with root. Do you really feel like spending hours walking people through a Hero rom install, or SD partitioning? Cause that's what you are asking for by doing so.
The whole point of performing such mods is for the learning experience, and expanding the capabilities of your device for personal enjoyment. It's not so people can say "look what I can do" or "my phone is cooler than yours". My opinion is: If you won't put forth the effort to read and learn how, you don't need it.
You probably spent a good bit of time learning what you have. I know it feels great to be able to show off those skills, but in the long run they will thank you for making them learn rather than doing it for them.
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RANT @ Apple & Apple Product Users

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Before you read any further down in this thread, look HERE.
Imagine that! Apple is LITERALLY in denial. They're blaming the USERS for Apples ignorance in the Mobile Device World. When will the Apple users learn that their devices ARE HUGE PILES OF CRAP!?.. AND ACTUALLY ADMIT IT!?!?!?! FAIL.
Here's the Reality: *When Apple tells users not to hold their device as they see comfortably fit is the day that the sheep get prodded once more.. and all the sheep go back into their state of denial, following the trend of IDIOTS around the world who actually continue paying for Apples Stupidity. Apple has never been #1 in the world for anything besides failure, and that shall never change.
[*And hey, that happened TODAY... run along little mindless sheep... go back to your Apple Tree and cry]
Smart Choice: Buy something that doesn't have a FRUIT LOGO ON IT!!! And they day you do that is the day you'll look in the mirror and laugh at the previous you for falling for an over-budgeted advertising scheme and following the rest of the sheep. Forget Apple and you'll be human again, not an ignorant waste of [male mating juice].
God help all Apple users around the world, allow them to lose the blinding curtain of stupidity that floods their vision. And allow them to once-again think for themselves.
There, I feel better.
What are your thoughts on this issue? And be honest...
[At Staff: If this thread is simply TOO much, feel free to delete it. I just thought it was time for Apple Fans to step into reality.]

Agent Zach
I've been reading your posts for sometime now and in "some" occasions don't really approve or side with your opinions but this time...buddy...right in the nose.
I'm still in awe about the way Apple does business, taking advantage of people just because they are the company that once revolutionized the computer industry with personal computers. It’s like buying a cell phone from Fidel Castro using Hugo Chavez cell company…a marriage made to match.
Just like sheep I tells ya, sheep!!

I was shocked a flaw this big gets through product testing, and then they tell you not to hold it that way? That's it? A flaw that doesn't allow you to use the phone as a phone is a HUGE problem, and Apple won't acknowledge it.

Of course they won't. Why take the blame when they can blame at&t some more.
After reading some reviews, etc.. it seems even the WiFi loses signal when held in hand.
And I'm sure at&t isn't logged into every router in the world... or are they? [We already know Google was once. ]
It's just another fail strategy by the reincarnated Adolf Hitler {Zhe Fuhrer} [Steve Jobs].

if you dont like apple products then thats your problem why do you want the ppl to stop using apple???its a personal choice...not your choice....

All-in-all, I don't want people to stop using their Apple products, I just want them to stop lying to their friends, family, and even THEMSELVES.
Besides, when someone walks into my home with an Apple product, it makes me feel better about about my device, knowing that it works the way it should and they I want it to. Apples devices, on the other hand, work the way Apple wants them to, not how the user wants them to...

are you envy of your friends iphone dropping signals? theres an app for that! lol
http://uk.androlib.com/android.application.com-wmbest-iphone4-jzwBB.aspx

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLreo24WYeQ
Nuff said

Both the App and the Video just made my day.

Apple raised the bar for Mobil devices, we are all profiting from that and the competition that comes with it, that is a very good thing.
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jimlad said:
Apple raised the bar for Mobil devices, we are all profiting from that and the competition that comes with it, that is a very good thing.
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I thought they lowered the bars?

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I thought they lowered the bars?
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Oh God, I laughed so hard at that.

BlackBerry is a horrible company that sells out its users

the London riots, BlackBerry offered all blackberry user's GPS logs to the police, so that they could track who was near the riots, so they could turn them over to the police. what a HUGE invasion of privacy, selling out its loyal customers like that..
im sure some of you will say its for a greater good, bull****, first of all this information will only tell you who was near the riot, not who was involved, so lots of innocents will be prosecuted. secondly, theres never a reason good enough that anyone should willingly give up their privacy to the government.
fortunately for people who want to protect their rights, TeaMp0isoN hacked BlackBerry's website, telling them if they do sellout users information to the police, BlackBerry will release all BlackBerry's higher up's information to the public. a very fair deal, and justice done by TeaMp0isoN. TeaMp0isoN also pointed out, the police cant even help themselves right now, so BlackBerry should not look to the police to protect them if they choose to sell out their users.
what are your guys thoughts on this?

soraxd said:
the London riots, BlackBerry offered all blackberry user's GPS logs to the police, so that they could track who was near the riots, so they could turn them over to the police. what a HUGE invasion of privacy, selling out its loyal customers like that..
im sure some of you will say its for a greater good, bull****, first of all this information will only tell you who was near the riot, not who was involved, so lots of innocents will be prosecuted. secondly, theres never a reason good enough that anyone should willingly give up their privacy to the government.
fortunately for people who want to protect their rights, TeaMp0isoN hacked BlackBerry's website, telling them if they do sellout users information to the police, BlackBerry will release all BlackBerry's higher up's information to the public. a very fair deal, and justice done by TeaMp0isoN. TeaMp0isoN also pointed out, the police cant even help themselves right now, so BlackBerry should not look to the police to protect them if they choose to sell out their users.
what are your guys thoughts on this?
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good thing too
also note that facebook and twitter did as well

If you think they will use gps location to prosecute...you are a fool. It will be used for gathering witnesses and information. As far as rights go, it is not a violation of rights. Your rights stop where anothers begin. So you do not have the right to say or do whatever you want if it effects someone elses rights. The police should shoot the rioters on site.

Handing over the gps position is kind of silly unless they are only using it for predictive measures to see where a lot of them are gathered. But even then unless it is cross referenced with messages that suggest a target near the gps position its only an invasion of privacy.
If anything, what bb should have done was suspend the bbm service in the uk area to break the organization of the riots. That should give the police the edge they may need. Any service lost could be either refunded in money or some sort of compensation.
I understand the youth in the uk are fed up with in justice but this method kinda only hurts them in the future. That being said how else do you get the politicians attention for positive change? A lot kf riots are happening all over the place ever since the economic down turn in the states. The states still has somd way to fall so we should be expecting more riots as the riots continue to move to the west.
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the police can do whatever they want, they will anyway. but blackberry should do what theyre supposed to do, and offer phone service. not try to play some sort of hero by selling out its users. its a gigantic step twards giving up our rights. black berry should only give up this sort of information if theyre subpoenaed. not be so willing to sell out its users, and that goes for any cause.

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the police can do whatever they want, they will anyway. but blackberry should do what theyre supposed to do, and offer phone service. not try to play some sort of hero by selling out its users. its a gigantic step twards giving up our rights. black berry should only give up this sort of information if theyre subpoenaed. not be so willing to sell out its users, and that goes for any cause.
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its just a public limited legal entity, albeit in canada, which is compelled by the law
I am sure they don't want to become a martr for a bunch of sick thieving thugs

soraxd said:
the police can do whatever they want, they will anyway. but blackberry should do what theyre supposed to do, and offer phone service. not try to play some sort of hero by selling out its users. its a gigantic step twards giving up our rights. black berry should only give up this sort of information if theyre subpoenaed. not be so willing to sell out its users, and that goes for any cause.
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Tell that bollocks to the people who have nowhere to live because a bunch of looting scumbacks decided to have some fun and burn their homes down.
Well done blackberry!
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In the case of a serious issue such as rioting, all measures should be utilized to contain the situation. Too many innocent people are feeling the pain of the situation. So f*ck their privacy.

So? We already knew that. Another rant topic with no new information to add.

Tone_ said:
Tell that bollocks to the people who have nowhere to live because a bunch of looting scumbacks decided to have some fun and burn their homes down.
Well done blackberry!
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In the case of a serious issue such as rioting, all measures should be utilized to contain the situation. Too many innocent people are feeling the pain of the situation. So f*ck their privacy.
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Couldn't have said it better myself!

This is a bit off-topic, but when will people learn that BlackBerry is NOT a company?
It is simply a brand name under the company Research in Motion (RIM)
lol, anyways, back on topic.. (even though we're in the OT forum..)
I agree with the poster above. Anything and everything should be done to control these riots. If you're out destroying innocent peoples property just for the hell of it, F*ck your rights. That's what I say.

Use Twitter, ATT is listening

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Sam Lewis of ATT called me shortly after this tweet was sent out. He advised me it is ultimately HTC that is responsible for the bootloader being locked. Not sure how much keeping his job may have swayed his response but we shall find out soon enough

We need to make them aware that we know about Carrier IQ and we need it unlocked right NOW!

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We need to make them aware that we know about Carrier IQ and we need it unlocked right NOW!
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I couldn't agree with you more. For now its frozen on my device. And will remain so until I can find a way to remove it.

Chr0nicDreamz said:
I couldn't agree with you more. For now its frozen on my device. And will remain so until I can find a way to remove it.
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I fully agree. I really like the Vivid but I feel with out root and s-off Im not using the phone to the fullest. I have 15 days left and if the above is not done by then, Ill be ordering a rocket (which I do not want to do...)

I now have a phone dialog going with ATT Customer Care because of a few tweets.
They implied that they expect me to relay that information back to the community and said they realize by talking to me they are talking to the community as a whole.
I have kept the situation updated HERE

Wow! We have incredible people here. I really feel like we're all making a difference!

Is this going too far? I mean yeah its a stretch on the truth but they lied to us so why not..

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Is this going too far? I mean yeah its a stretch on the truth but they lied to us so why not..
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the way I see it... a voice is a voice... even an angry voice.
HTC & AT&T need to hear as many voices as possible... go ahead and be angry... let them know...
I and others with direct lines of communication will be calm and reasonable and can point to the angry people... and say "see the natives are restless"

Looks like I should get a twitter account one of these years lol.

They don't give a crap if you contact them in an angry manner. Those of us complaining about this are a minority, most people that buy these phones don't know anything about this stuff. The majority have never heard of rooting, or unlocked bootloaders, or ciq. They may appear to be listening but if they really were action would have been taken already. I'm glad I'm not an overly paranoid person, I'd never be able to use a cellphone after learning about all of this info that is collected every day.
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They don't give a crap if you contact them in an angry manner. Those of us complaining about this are a minority, most people that buy these phones don't know anything about this stuff. The majority have never heard of rooting, or unlocked bootloaders, or ciq. They may appear to be listening but if they really were action would have been taken already. I'm glad I'm not an overly paranoid person, I'd never be able to use a cellphone after learning about all of this info that is collected every day.
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Your post looks exactly like the one I put on the "Why AT&T users should boycott" threadm, I'm glad someone shares my opinion lol. While a boycott does nothing because of us being the minority, spamming their social media can actually do something. The general public does have a Facebook or Twitter, so when they see people complaining every single day about the same stuff on HTC's page, that doesn't look good at all on HTC's part. It raises awareness as opposed to just quietly boycotting a device when we are such a small percentage.

Internet Censorship - EMERGENCY ACTION REQUIRED

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Watch​Anonymous: Internet Censorship - EMERGENCY ACTION REQUIRED​
THIS IS AN IMMEDIATE CALL TO ACTION! There are two new immediate threats to internet freedom: Obama's Cyber-Security Executive Order and the TPPA. We must mobilize resistance immediately.
Transcript:
Greetings Citizens of the United States and the World.
Emergency Action Required.
We have been valiant thus far in protecting our internet. We stopped both SOPA and CISPA. Then they pushed for the international treaty, ACTA, and the entire world pushed back. But we're not finished yet. There are two more threats that we must unite together again to defeat.
The first is a CISPA like executive order that the White House is considering. In order to pass these bills that Congress has rejected, the Obama administration has taken to the use of Executive Orders so that they may bypass Congress entirely. This is incredibly concerning as the process is very complex for Congress to overturn laws passed this way. The Supreme Court may also declare it unconstitutional, but such incidents are very rare. With enough opposition, we can stop this before it even gets off the ground.
The second, and more immediate threat, is another international treaty. Like ACTA, this treaty has been negotiated in secret. The Trans-Pacific Partnership is so secret that not even the Congressional Committee in charge of such treaties can even see the bill. It is however, viewable by six hundred corporate representatives. All we know is what has been leaked thus far, and it reaches well beyond the scope of simply censoring the internet. It's yet another bill to grant more power to multinational corporations. If this treaty is ratified, the only way it can be altered is through the agreement of every country involved.
The Electronic Frontier Foundation has tried to rally the troops: "Don't Let TPP Become the Next ACTA: Contact Your Lawmakers and Demand Transparency!"
...the TPP is being negotiated in secret, and on a fast timetable. We don't know what's in the TPP IP chapter, and that's what worries us. Entertainment industry executives who are members of the Industry Trade Advisory Committee will likely get to see the agreement drafts -- again -- but the rest of us will be kept in the dark unless we speak up now.
And they are not alone in attempting to warn everyone. The Huffington Post, Guardian, ACLU, Examiner, Alternet, Current, Techdirt, DailyKos, Truthout, and many more have all reported on this atrocity. Even members of Congress have introduced legislation due the extreme secrecy of this treaty.
This is an immediate call to action.
Contact your members of Congress, educate your friends and family, create art, videos, and stage protests. Do everything you can to help raise awareness as they plan to push this through before the next election. We have very little time to stop this. Many around the world and a few in the States have been trying to raise awareness. Let us unite once again to protect the very few freedoms we have left!
We are Anonymous.
We are Legion.
We do not Forgive Oppression.
We do not Forget Censorship.
Expect us.
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Is there a TL;DR version?

Just watch the video, its less than 3 minutes!
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I've always wished the new Anon messages would just simultaneously appear on ALL TVs/monitors, interrupting everything going on and causing people to just stop what they are doing and watch. Like what happens in movies, usually with the antagonist.

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I've always wished the new Anon messages would just simultaneously appear on ALL TVs/monitors, interrupting everything going on and causing people to just stop what they are doing and watch. Like what happens in movies, usually with the antagonist.
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Ya, me too!! That would be awesome!! But on the other hand, i think those people, who don't know who Anons are and what they are fighting against and for, will just think of them as some hacker who hacked into the TV stations and well some others will be scared and few others will just LOL.. And If that really happens, we will be very pleased!!:fingers-crossed:

So basically there's 2 things that might happen, that you know nothing about, but there's stuff that you suggest may probably happen.
Sigh. I feel like performing a bit of censorship of my own right now, but I'll restrain myself.

Wow archer didn't close the thread? Lol
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Wow archer didn't close the thread? Lol
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He's waiting for us to get attached to it and let our guard down, then when you least expect it...
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In fairness, this is a politicaly based thread, and with that...
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