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Is using a 2A charger harmful or bad for my phone or its battery ?
if not what kind or which brand of charger you recommend ?
Sajijun said:
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Is using a 2A charger harmful or bad for my phone or its battery ?
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A 2 Amp charger mean its capable of giving max 2A to a load, the phone only needs 1A so will only use 1A even on a 2A charger
if not what kind or which brand of charger you recommend ?
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Original charger, always
But i have charged my phone with a samsung 2A charger a few times , and the charge speed was near twice , so the phone does not use just 1A
Sajijun said:
But i have charged my phone with a samsung 2A charger a few times , and the charge speed was near twice , so the phone does not use just 1A
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your ElementalX kernel allows Fast charging on the HTC One is why
Sajijun said:
But i have charged my phone with a samsung 2A charger a few times , and the charge speed was near twice , so the phone does not use just 1A
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Hey, which one is it? I would like to know =)
Model name or sth, should be written on the charger =)
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Hey, which one is it? I would like to know =)
Model name or sth, should be written on the charger =)
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It was for my friend`s Galaxy Note 3 , he does not have the phone any more but I will find the charger and pm you for the model
The phone can handle it but the 1a is the suggested and anything more can damage the hardware. I have a rapid charger that will charge my battery to full in about 30 min from 0. It works on the stock kernel so it is not a custom kernel option. And the fast charge is a pc USB setting if you read the discripition.
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The phone can handle it but the 1a is the suggested and anything more can damage the hardware. I have a rapid charger that will charge my battery to full in about 30 min from 0. It works on the stock kernel so it is not a custom kernel option. And the fast charge is a pc USB setting if you read the discripition.
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Really? I've always heard that the phone knows only to pull 1A from the available amperage. I've always heard that using something less than 1a can damage the cord and possibly the charger itself.
Also: Using fast charge can seriously degrade your battery over time. Better to only use it when in a pinch.
MarkBell said:
Really? I've always heard that the phone knows only to pull 1A from the available amperage. I've always heard that using something less than 1a can damage the cord and possibly the charger itself.
Also: Using fast charge can seriously degrade your battery over time. Better to only use it when in a pinch.
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That's why I said it can damage the device. Mine is a stand alone charger so no damage to the cord.
I only use it when I really need to. Like when I have kill the battery as well as the Mophie pack and am in the middle of nowhere and need to make a fast call.
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That's why I said it can damage the device. Mine is a stand alone charger so no damage to the cord.
I only use it when I really need to. Like when I have kill the battery as well as the Mophie pack and am in the middle of nowhere and need to make a fast call.
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I see what you are saying. I read it differently earlier for some reason. Actually: I know the reason. I've been severely sleep deprived the past several months and have been experiencing sleep paralysis the last several months two or three times per week. Thank God I'm getting a sleep study done soon! My level of alertness is way down from what it used to be... Sorry to get off topic with that stuff, but I felt the need to explain.
clsA said:
your ElementalX kernel allows Fast charging on the HTC One is why
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But i was using the default kernel that time :|
zelendel said:
The phone can handle it but the 1a is the suggested and anything more can damage the hardware. I have a rapid charger that will charge my battery to full in about 30 min from 0. It works on the stock kernel so it is not a custom kernel option. And the fast charge is a pc USB setting if you read the discripition.
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Will this only damage the battery or more than that ?
Yeah it's not good for battery life. If you want to get the most out of the battery I wouldn't do it
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Will this only damage the battery or more than that ?
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While I would tend to think HTC would be smarter then to skimp on the hardware. I will error on then side of caution and say no. You "could" mess up the port and the board.
My Htc one M7 is charging in about 3-4 hours, from 0% to 100% with original charger and cable, it's ok?
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My Htc one M7 is charging in about 3-4 hours, from 0% to 100% with original charger and cable, it's ok?
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Yes , it should be ok with a 1A standard charger
Sajijun said:
Yes , it should be ok with a 1A standard charger
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it's a problem if i will use a 2a charger?
shukayru1 said:
it's a problem if i will use a 2a charger?
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You are asking a question that this thread is about , so read the posts from the begining and you will get your answer my friend
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your ElementalX kernel allows Fast charging on the HTC One is why
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Wrong So Wrong
Fact with stock kernel htc one m7 charges nearly 20 mins quicker
there are pro's and cons to this unless used at the right time in the right situation
sick of people saying it will harm it or that it is there to use only 1a
first of all the stock charger allows 500ma of charging and 500ma for the phones consumption whilst charging
when turned off it should only charge at 700ma
a flaw that was left on purpose by htc for monetary gain
holding fast charge and even full charge capabilities back widens the gap between the m7 and the m8
making people want to buy the m8 charger or better the m8
here's why and how they hold it back on it's full speed charging with !!!!!!!the stock HTC charger
Here is the explanation
The best way I have ever heard it put is like this
Where current is water
Imagine a water barrel that is being filled up at a rate of 1 liter an hour
The barrel has a over flow pipe aka battery if this pipe is only wide enough for half a liter an hour and you turn the tap filling the barrel to 10 liter an hour how much is the over flow receiving still half a liter.
So here is the big if and but
If you are using a 2.1a 5.1v ipad charger
Whilst gaming you have the CPU GPU and battery making heat and thus degrading Battery life and performance
If you turn the m7 off or have all apps closed and phone idle then this is far better than gaming with the stock m7 charger
as heat is the NO1. killer for battery depletion
As for comments about voltage of other chargers are irrelevant as the circuit in the phone limits voltage with a simple I/0 circuit if voltage is either under or over pre set parameters it will do nothing as it won't allow any flow of current at all
Unless lots bigger (BANG)
How is the current limited
Self explanatory as the charger states what it is built to supply
Conclusion is simple amps are limited by the charger plug or USB port
Voltage is not limited but safe gaurded by the phone so if your phone registers a charge with a 5.3v plug then it is fine as long as you use it sensibly
Apps are highly unreliable as they are a close prediction at best
And don't correctly include what is used by the phone
Also some current will be being stored all the time in capacitors
Fact the m7 charges quicker with higher ampage application measuring ampage will not be accurate.
The only accurate way is to time it from empty turned off
And blind people who say HTC know best do not understand the workings of any multinational corporation
By holding the fast charge back widens the gap between the m7 and m8 meaning more people will go and buy the m8 fast charger or even better the m8
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I'm about to use a Moto Milestone 1 charger for OB but I'm afraid that it may harm the phone. Both phones are listed with MicroUSB 2. Any tips?
thanks
Don't worry.. it will work Ok, but OB charger has 1000ma, if you use another charger that has let's say 500ma (like USB) it will take 3 hours to charge the phone instead of the regular 45 minutes!
I use a samsung cable directly from USB, the car USB port, a samsung 5530 charger, a LG optimus one charger, and they all worked, with various degrees of effectiveness!
The most useful one is the car's USB port that, even if it cannot keep up with the GPS (it charges slower than the battery drains), it can keep the phone running with 10% loss every hour with screen activated and GPS at the same time! The problem is that I hate radio and don't use CD's that much, and usually end up with the phone depleted before I reach the destination!
Thanks man! Ok I'll check that "ma" thing. BTW is it written on the battery or charger?
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Thanks man! Ok I'll check that "ma" thing. BTW is it written on the battery or charger?
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Both places; battery specify working and standby V and mA, charger specify the V and mA provider
So you can use almost every different charger if the specs are the same, but be aware of this: don't use a charger with less mA since it can burn the charger
Ma - miliamps.
How many milliamps in 1 watt/volt? The answer is 1000.
I assume you are converting between milliampere and watt/volt.
I never had a burnt charger by the way, that would be very strange considering that the phone is accepting 500ma from the start (that is the USB output on any PC), and I even saw chargers with a power of 2W (SUPER FAST CHARGERS). The Motorola chargers are 850 ma usually, so it should work quite good!
Indeed, it's very strange to have a burnt charger and we don't need to go into an electrical discussion but that happens because of 2 possible things, very high-peak of voltage or prolonged use of under-voltage
mihaiolimpiu said:
The Motorola chargers are 850 ma usually, so it should work quite good!
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Thanks. Printed on my Moto charger is 850mA so I'll rather use it for my OB next time.
BTW, currently I'm using a replacement charger for my OB with a name "super charger" printed "4.5v - 9.5v 800ma"
It's charging at normal duration in fact I'm using it for days. The only problem is that my OB touchscreen freaks out if I use it while that charger is connected. It's obvious when I run the multitouch testing app because touch points run all over the place. Touchscreen goes back to normal if I disconnect the charger. I tested that "super charger" to my milestone and the same abnormal thing happens to the screen. What causes it?
Probably it's something to do with high voltage... I'd avoid using it if something like that happens to my phone..
Usually the USB style chargers are pretty standard... the speed with which they work are strongly related to the power (Amperes) they provide, the voltage "should" be pretty standard!
mihaiolimpiu said:
Usually the USB style chargers are pretty standard... the speed with which they work are strongly related to the power (Amperes) they provide, the voltage "should" be pretty standard!
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Like chargers with detachable MicroUSB cable?
BoyBawang2 said:
I'm about to use a Moto Milestone 1 charger for OB but I'm afraid that it may harm the phone. Both phones are listed with MicroUSB 2. Any tips?
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Battery experts say to try and use a charger that's rated half the power of the battery.
So for a 1500 mAh battery, a charger of 850 mAh should be a better option than a 1000 mAh one.
Yes, the 1000 mAh charger would charge the battery faster than the 850 mAh one but it will decrease the lifetime of the battery faster.
Just for be able to post new thread. Sorry.
Hello, I don't want to start a new thread so I'll ask here.
The charger that came with my OB seems to be damaged. It was working properly until last last night. My phone detects the charger but it won't charge. Got powermax turned on and it automatically turned off when I connected the charger, so I know my charger does have issues.
Tried banging the charger last night, connected it to phone and started charging, woke up to see that it stopped charging 2 hours ago. It didn't even fully charge my phone. Now I'm charging it with my pc via the USB cable. I noticed that the touch screen goes wild when I use it while connected with the USB.
Now, I'm planning to buy a Galaxy S2 charger. Is it safe to use? S2 and OB has almost the same battery capacity so I'm considering it. Any other suggestions? OB ain't popular here in the Philippines so finding accessories is a real pain in the a**.
Fitted a Corby 2 charger and it seems like they use Mini-usb too. Haven't tried charging with it though.
My original charger also died... Now I use the one that came with my bluetooth headset
So I guess using the OB charger on other stuff is okay too. USB is always ~5v.
You need to test the charger with something else to be sure, though.
I had the same touchscreen freaking out problem with my old LG KS20, whenever I charged it. Like it was shorted or something. So it maybe a problem with the phone itself.
roltzy said:
My original charger also died... Now I use the one that came with my bluetooth headset
So I guess using the OB charger on other stuff is okay too. USB is always ~5v.
You need to test the charger with something else to be sure, though.
I had the same touchscreen freaking out problem with my old LG KS20, whenever I charged it. Like it was shorted or something. So it maybe a problem with the phone itself.
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So, you agree that I use a Galaxy S2 charger? I think it would be fine since my friend with an S2 used my charger to charge his phone and it went well. I'll ask him to buy me one tomorrow. Tnx for reply
Ok kabayan, don't forget to share here the result after u try gs2 charger. I too am looking for safe alternative to my milestone charger.
Standard port - standard voltage
Don't even bother, if it has a micro USB it should be fallowing the same standard as USB for charging (5V)...
Of course test the charger for any adverse side effects like screen flickering or short battery life, and don't use it if something like that occurs, but because of the standardized voltage and the fact that usually phone chargers have between 500 - 1000 mA, 99% of chargers work...
I still haven't found any incompatible charger for my phone and I don't even buy a phone if it has a non standard Charging/Data Port... it's just stupid... so no Iphone for me!
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Ok kabayan, don't forget to share here the result after u try gs2 charger. I too am looking for safe alternative to my milestone charger.
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mihaiolimpiu said:
Don't even bother, if it has a micro USB it should be fallowing the same standard as USB for charging (5V)...
Of course test the charger for any adverse side effects like screen flickering or short battery life, and don't use it if something like that occurs, but because of the standardized voltage and the fact that usually phone chargers have between 500 - 1000 mA, 99% of chargers work...
I still haven't found any incompatible charger for my phone and I don't even buy a phone if it has a non standard Charging/Data Port... it's just stupid... so no Iphone for me!
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Hello guys! I'm here for an update. For the past week I've been using a Corby 2 charger. And guess what, it works just fine! only downside is it won't charge it up to 100% (usually gets to 99% upon unplugging). And it charges the phone a little slower than the original charger. I always let the phone overcharge overnight to have 100% battery.
Since somebody stole my laptop (and my charger too) I'm using a ZTE Blade charger without problems...
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Since somebody stole my laptop (and my charger too) I'm using a ZTE Blade charger without problems...
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FUC* stolen how ? this it`s baaaddd ....
My phone charger broke and now it connects to the phone with a lot of difficulty, so I can hardly charge the phone. Do you happen to have any link to original charger where I can buy?
Here-
Amazon - http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Ericsson...?ie=UTF8&qid=1344437610&sr=8-1&keywords=ep800
eBay - http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-So...ccessories&hash=item19ce80b4d1#ht_1477wt_1154
Just go down to any nearest Sony Ericsson service center, there you can get original charger..
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My phone charger broke and now it connects to the phone with a lot of difficulty, so I can hardly charge the phone. Do you happen to have any link to original charger where I can buy?
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also can charge from other android phones charger. most of the androids has micro usb charging.
I charge my phone with my dad HTC wildfire S charger!:laugh:
I charge using BlackBerry charger, and it charged. :laugh:
When you use a charger for another device you must be sure that the Output Amperes are equal or less than the ones of the original charger
of your device because you will propably damage your device!!
KostasMD said:
When you use a charger for another device you must be sure that the Output Amperes are equal or less than the ones of the original charger
of your device because you will propably damage your device!!
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MICROUSB are all same....(I think so)
sent from my W8 using xda app(paid/free doesn't matter)
Gogeta said:
MICROUSB are all same....(I think so)
sent from my W8 using xda app(paid/free doesn't matter)
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no they are not all same
samsung provides 850mA current while our charger has 1A.
as our battery is 1200mAh we can give max 1.2A current to it (considering 1C discharge)
so i recommend to use any USB charger with 5V and 1A rating. apple chargers also use the same.
also buy a good company charger. dont use any china charger as they lack in overvoltage protection and all (i am not offending any chinese people in xda ).
and our PC USB port provides 5V 500mA, so we can use it also but it will take time to charge phone.
press thanks if helped.
mayurcools said:
no they are not all same
samsung provides 850mA current while our charger has 1A.
as our battery is 1200mAh we can give max 1.2A current to it (considering 1C discharge)
so i recommend to use any USB charger with 5V and 1A rating. apple chargers also use the same.
also buy a good company charger. dont use any china charger as they lack in overvoltage protection and all (i am not offending any chinese people in xda ).
and our PC USB port provides 5V 500mA, so we can use it also but it will take time to charge phone.
press thanks if helped.
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jst a query.....doesnt our x8 charger(ep800 greenheart) outputs 850mA...???????
though charging with 1A provides fast charging.....good or bad?
vikalstha said:
jst a query.....doesnt our x8 charger(ep800 greenheart) outputs 850mA...???????
though charging with 1A provides fast charging.....good or bad?
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every phone has built in charging IC and it provides high current with fast charging and when battery is about to charge full it reduces current and charges device normally so that there will not be any overcharging.
and our battery is LiPo not LiIon so we have advantages over more current draw and fast charging. also we can charge battery at ny time, it is not needed to charge it when battery is about to die to extend its life like in other batteries.
so you do not need to worry.
and my W8 original greenheart charger rating is 5V 1A
mayurcools said:
every phone has built in charging IC and it provides high current with fast charging and when battery is about to charge full it reduces current and charges device normally so that there will not be any overcharging.
and our battery is LiPo not LiIon so we have advantages over more current draw and fast charging. also we can charge battery at ny time, it is not needed to charge it when battery is about to die to extend its life like in other batteries.
so you do not need to worry.
and my W8 original greenheart charger rating is 5V 1A
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thanks for d info....means i can charge my x8 with no mind-bugging query with other chrgers dat provide 1A?....woooooooooolaaaa...:highfive:
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Quite wrong there.The only thing that will happen is that the phone will take longer to charge if the mAmperes are less than the original chargers.If they are more it wont have any problem or it may even charge faster depending on the internal charge controller.
Just so you keep it in mind, the mAmps a charger states, is the MAXIMUM it can provide, not the mAmps it FORCES into the device.Every device drains as much power as it is configured to drain when it was built.
Its the OUTPUT voltage you must be careful at, though every charger the last 8 years outputs 5-7 volts which is fine. :laugh:
@above
True.. The phone will only draw the power it requires even if the charger has a higher rating..
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Use samsung charger, better battery life...
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Use samsung charger, better battery life...
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Well in this case you write nonsense ...
Sony Ericsson is the Sony Ericsson and not combined with other devices.
But if the charger fits why not a battery but it does not improve in the same way as other charges
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Well in this case you write nonsense ...
Sony Ericsson is the Sony Ericsson and not combined with other devices.
But if the charger fits why not a battery but it does not improve in the same way as other charges
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Nonsense is not a very polite word, i d prefer inaccurate.
In this case both statements are wrong.There is no manufacturer constrain when using smartphones and chargers, as long as they both have the same plug (aka micro usb).
The chargers are not actually chargers, they are power supplies.As stated above each phone only takes the amount of power its charge controller IC dictates it to.So there is no better life with samsung charger nor SE for SE phones and not combining with other devices.
Use whatever charger you can find (as long as it is of some brand) and it will do the trick.If it says many mAs(like 1000 or more) good for, you, faster charge if the phone allows it, if it says less mAs you ll just have to wait more, but the battery wont get damaged, whatever charger you use!
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Nonsense is not a very polite word, i d prefer inaccurate.
In this case both statements are wrong.There is no manufacturer constrain when using smartphones and chargers, as long as they both have the same plug (aka micro usb).
The chargers are not actually chargers, they are power supplies.As stated above each phone only takes the amount of power its charge controller IC dictates it to.So there is no better life with samsung charger nor SE for SE phones and not combining with other devices.
Use whatever charger you can find (as long as it is of some brand) and it will do the trick.If it says many mAs(like 1000 or more) good for, you, faster charge if the phone allows it, if it says less mAs you ll just have to wait more, but the battery wont get damaged, whatever charger you use!
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O rly?
According to your logic
There must be charger that charges X8 in just 1 minute :silly:
see boot animation without rebooting
Gogeta said:
O rly?
According to your logic
There must be charger that charges X8 in just 1 minute :silly:
see boot animation without rebooting
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Why dont you grab a 70Ah charger and try and tell us your results then? :good:
In the meantime read carefully what i posted. i stated :' if the phone allows it". Meaning you can put a 2Ah charger but unless the phones charge controller allows it you cant charge in that rate.Ofc you shouldnt charge Lithium batteries with more than 1C in the first place but thats another story.
Finally i ve converted old cellphone chargers i had in a shelf to have USB output and they all work great, though they charge slower since they are 500mAh rated.
Hi everyone, I'm looking for more info about the fast charge function of the Note 4: I can read on the charger that it either provides 5 on 9V. Does this mean that I can supply 9V on the USB port to fast charge my note 4 ? Does anyone know how the charger detects wheher it it should supply 5 or 9V?
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Hi everyone, I'm looking for more info about the fast charge function of the Note 4: I can read on the charger that it either provides 5 on 9V. Does this mean that I can supply 9V on the USB port to fast charge my note 4 ? Does anyone know how the charger detects wheher it it should supply 5 or 9V?
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Yes, it means that that charger will deliver power at 9 V (at 1.67 A) to the phone.
As for how it decides which voltage/current to use, it'll be as a function of the battery's charge level, temperature, and probably some other factors, but that's getting into some very specific settings for the phone/charger system by that point.
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Yes, it means that that charger will deliver power at 9 V (at 1.67 A) to the phone.
As for how it decides which voltage/current to use, it'll be as a function of the battery's charge level, temperature, and probably some other factors, but that's getting into some very specific settings for the phone/charger system by that point.
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thanks for the quick reply! I've got a couple of Dc Converters (buck) and lipo batteries (11.1V) and was wondering how the phone signals the charger it can accept 9V and if I can use my DC step down to feed the phone with9V...
I guess I will have to try
botid said:
thanks for the quick reply! I've got a couple of Dc Converters (buck) and lipo batteries (11.1V) and was wondering how the phone signals the charger it can accept 9V and if I can use my DC step down to feed the phone with9V...
I guess I will have to try
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I guess it requires original charger for that function, probably with kernel modification you can disable that only 9v OEM charger use for QC
Hello guys ! Do you think this fast charging function is alright for the battery ? as far as i know high current may damage the battery .
liberfarb said:
Hello guys ! Do you think this fast charging function is alright for the battery ? as far as i know high current may damage the battery .
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I agree that it might be damaging to the battery (but obviously not extremely damaging). Why else would there be the option to switch off fast charging? I've switched mine off anyway because I have no use for it as my phone charges overnight and makes no difference how quickly it gets to 100%.
ozaghloul said:
I agree that it might be damaging to the battery (but obviously not extremely damaging). Why else would there be the option to switch off fast charging? I've switched mine off anyway because I have no use for it as my phone charges overnight and makes no difference how quickly it gets to 100%.
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Thank you for the quick replay mate , I have switched this feature off as well for the same reason I charge my smartphone during the night
ozaghloul said:
I agree that it might be damaging to the battery (but obviously not extremely damaging). Why else would there be the option to switch off fast charging? I've switched mine off anyway because I have no use for it as my phone charges overnight and makes no difference how quickly it gets to 100%.
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I personally thought the option to disable Fast Charging was Samsungs' way of reminding us, or letting the uninformed know, that it can do it.
The generally accepted rule amongst radio control hobbyists is that provided the battery is well made, it's not the current that'll kill a battery - it's overcharging it (over 4.2V per cell on a LiPo). Provided that the charging circuit is good (and I have no doubt it is of a high quality) we shouldn't see any degradation in battery life when used with the fast charge process.
Others may chime in with more info, but that's how I understand it.
SquidgyB said:
The generally accepted rule amongst radio control hobbyists is that provided the battery is well made, it's not the current that'll kill a battery - it's overcharging it (over 4.2V per cell on a LiPo). Provided that the charging circuit is good (and I have no doubt it is of a high quality) we shouldn't see any degradation in battery life when used with the fast charge process.
Others may chime in with more info, but that's how I understand it.
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l believe the fast charge is safe for the battery as it charges it at 1C (=1hr charge) which is actually not so fast.
Here is my tip: I have an old charger to charge overnight and use the mote 4 charger only for fast charging during the day (I leave it in my bag). I'm actually lookingfor a way to make a fast charging battery bank.
So here is my question again: has anyone tried supplying 9V to the phone ?
best device in charging
its charging up the whole battery in about an hour, i really like that and the battery gives me a full day
So far right now i can talk for about an hour and play games for about an hour and leave it on overnight and all day and still have 82% left. I'm super impressed!
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So far right now i can talk for about an hour and play games for about an hour and leave it on overnight and all day and still have 82% left. I'm super impressed!
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YOAH!!! Thats insane!
I know that the amperage on the charger is huge in its speed.
I used many custom Roms and kernels in the past on other phones with fast charge. I used several chargers and always charged much quicker with higher amperage outputs. Some were as low as 300 MA to as high as 1.2A. This is why the amperage is so high on this phones charger. The voltage is needed to push the charge quicker. Good luck finding high A charger at 9v.
My 1.2A charger i use as backup is much faster then the 500/700ma ones I have but they are all 5v and can't compete with fast charge.
Sent from my *ROOTED* Note 4 SM-N910W8
I'm also looking for a power bank that would be able to charge at
- 5V 2A,
- 5.5V (Galaxy Tab S)
- 9V (Note 4).
- with 2x18650
- able to charge itself fast too;
- charge-through (charging a device while changing itself).
i now have this ENB model, but it does not deliver 2A to Tab S (and charges at 5V not 5.5).
And it charges itself with 1A even from 2A-capable power supply.
Hi all,
I notice something that the note 4 does not charge fast after I installed S-View cover (original one), although an indication appeared that it is using the fast charging function.
I guessed it assume that the cover is open and charge slower. However, if I removed the S-View it charge noticeably faster.
Do you think this a bug in firmware ??
Thank you,
The so-called USB fast chargers query the device to be charged. Devices capable of fast charging at 9V DC have additional circuitry in their USB ports that the charger can detect. If the charger doesn't detect the circuitry, it falls back to 5V DC mode, like any other USB charger. Assuming the fast charger is functioning correctly, it should not over-charge an older phone or tablet that doesn't support fast charging; it will simply take as long as the original "dumb" USB charger did.
Hey guys I just bought the Nexus 6 and been looking around here and didnt find anything on best ways of charging the phone. I know the phone comes with the quick charger, but I tried it and the phone got real hot and I am pretty sure its not good for the battery in the long run.
That being said I do not want my battery to start losing charges since it does not have a replaceable battery. I am just curious if anyone on here uses other methods of charging the phone or better yet if anything is proven to be safer to charge. Right now I am charging the phone with my previous Samsung s4 charger and seems to charge fine, but if its not good to do this I would like to know sooner than later.
The n6 is meant to charge fast and isn't the first phone to use fast charge technology so I think we are fine using the stock charger.There's no way a battery charging that fast isn't going to get hot.
Define "real hot."
It is normal for the phone to get quite warm when charging. It should never be hot to the touch though. In this context, by hot, I mean you're unable to hold the phone. If you're able to touch the back, and keep your fingers there for more than a few seconds, then the phone is warm, not hot. Anyone who has had a battery overheat can tell you that the difference is unmistakable.
Chargers will, by definition, heat the battery to some extent -- how much, depends on what kind of charger. The order (from warmest to coolest) is: QuickCharge 2.0 (Turbo Charger), qi wireless charging, QuickCharge 1.0 ("Traditional" 2A charger), Regular 1A charger, USB charger (500ma). However, the heat produced by ANY of these chargers is normal, and the battery was designed to handle it. The life may be lessened by the heat to a very small extent, but it should still last way longer than the 1 to 2 years you'll likely own your phone. Plus, technically, the battery IS replaceable. It's just not designed to be user-replaceable, but there are businesses that will replace them. Or... you can purchase an after-market warranty, most of which cover batteries.
jt3 said:
Define "real hot."
It is normal for the phone to get quite warm when charging. It should never be hot to the touch though. In this context, by hot, I mean you're unable to hold the phone. If you're able to touch the back, and keep your fingers there for more than a few seconds, then the phone is warm, not hot. Anyone who has had a battery overheat can tell you that the difference is unmistakable.
Chargers will, by definition, heat the battery to some extent -- how much, depends on what kind of charger. The order (from warmest to coolest) is: QuickCharge 2.0 (Turbo Charger), qi wireless charging, QuickCharge 1.0 ("Traditional" 2A charger), Regular 1A charger, USB charger (500ma). However, the heat produced by ANY of these chargers is normal, and the battery was designed to handle it. The life may be lessened by the heat to a very small extent, but it should still last way longer than the 1 to 2 years you'll likely own your phone. Plus, technically, the battery IS replaceable. It's just not designed to be user-replaceable, but there are businesses that will replace them. Or... you can purchase an after-market warranty, most of which cover batteries.
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I meant just warmer than normal use of the phone. I understand the phone gets hotter the faster you are charging, however I charge my phone every night so what is the point of the quick charging except when I am at work and my phones about to die?
I just feel that the phone will last longer by not quick charging it, but I could be wrong. What I really want to know is if anyone knows if its better for the phone if you just charge with the 1.0 and if so which charger should I use? Maybe another motorola one or would the samsung one work fine?
cleex024 said:
What I really want to know is if anyone knows if its better for the phone if you just charge with the 1.0 and if so which charger should I use? Maybe another motorola one or would the samsung one work fine?
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Technically, yes, it'd be better for your battery, but realistically, you'll never notice, since you'll probably get a new phone long before battery life becomes an issue.
However, to answer your question, any 1A charger designed for Android devices will work (If they're not designed for Android, they'll show "Charging (USB)" in the battery monitor, and will only charge at 500mA). The brand isn't really important, as long as it's a reputable brand. (...and before you ask, yes a 2A charger will work fine too, but will heat your battery more than a 1A charger.)
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Technically, yes, it'd be better for your battery, but realistically, you'll never notice, since you'll probably get a new phone long before battery life becomes an issue.
However, to answer your question, any 1A charger designed for Android devices will work (If they're not designed for Android, they'll show "Charging (USB)" in the battery monitor, and will only charge at 500mA). The brand isn't really important, as long as it's a reputable brand. (...and before you ask, yes a 2A charger will work fine too, but will heat your battery more than a 1A charger.)
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Ok thanks...I guess ill continue to use my samsung 1a charger since it works. And I know that I wont have this phone for the whole 2 years, but if I charge the phone every night anyway why take the risk of damaging the battery at all with a stronger charger when I dont need it right?
Anyway thanks for the advice and ill keep using my samsung charger.
Thanks
cleex024 said:
Ok thanks...I guess ill continue to use my samsung 1a charger since it works. And I know that I wont have this phone for the whole 2 years, but if I charge the phone every night anyway why take the risk of damaging the battery at all with a stronger charger when I dont need it right?
Anyway thanks for the advice and ill keep using my samsung charger.
Thanks
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I put my phone on a wireless charger all night and it gets a little warm but nothing to lose sleep over.
dalegg said:
I put my phone on a wireless charger all night and it gets a little warm but nothing to lose sleep over.
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Which wireless charger are you using?
The quick charge technology is designed to quickly charge your phone without reducing charging cycle performance
Which charger to use? (no quickcharge)
I bought a Samsung charger for my upcoming Nexus 6, i don't want to use the quick charger that comes with the phone. I am starting to suspect that this one is also a quick charger, can anyone look at the attached pictures and tell me? Also if it isn't a quick charger i would like to use it for the long run so my second question is would my battery be affected because of what says on the back of the box that i highlighted? In the highlight are also the specs of the charger, can someone clear this up for me?
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10W Samsung travel adapter, Input 100-240VAC 50-60Hz, Output 5.0VDC 2A
Use only with compatible Samsung devices
mohijavata said:
I bought a Samsung charger for my upcoming Nexus 6, i don't want to use the quick charger that comes with the phone. I am starting to suspect that this one is also a quick charger, can anyone look at the attached pictures and tell me? Also if it isn't a quick charger i would like to use it for the long run so my second question is would my battery be affected because of what says on the back of the box that i highlighted? In the highlight are also the specs of the charger, can someone clear this up for me?
EDIT: I cannot post pictures on the forum just yet, so here are the specs
10W Samsung travel adapter, Input 100-240VAC 50-60Hz, Output 5.0VDC 2A
Use only with compatible Samsung devices
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2 amp will deliver 2 amp, which is what the turbo charger will deliver, so yes it will turbo charge. Why don't you want to turbo charge?
danarama said:
2 amp will deliver 2 amp, which is what the turbo charger will deliver, so yes it will turbo charge. Why don't you want to turbo charge?
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I want to use the phone for a couple of years and don't want to shorten the battery life and also have the risk of inflating battery and everything that comes with it. What kind of charger should i buy to charge it in some "normal" time? The salesman in Samsung store told me this one charges Note 4, Galaxy S5 - which is why i bought it - the S5 doesn't have the quickcharge tech so i instantly thought it was an ordinary charger. On the other hand, my Galaxy Nexus official charger is rated for 1.0 A which surely isn't strong enough to charge the 6 properly so i am confused with what kind of a charger and with what ratings should i get? Thank you in advance.
mohijavata said:
I want to use the phone for a couple of years and don't want to shorten the battery life and also have the risk of inflating battery and everything that comes with it. What kind of charger should i buy to charge it in some "normal" time? The salesman in Samsung store told me this one charges Note 4, Galaxy S5 - which is why i bought it - the S5 doesn't have the quickcharge tech so i instantly thought it was an ordinary charger. On the other hand, my Galaxy Nexus official charger is rated for 1.0 A which surely isn't strong enough to charge the 6 properly so i am confused with what kind of a charger and with what ratings should i get? Thank you in advance.
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2amps isn't going to shorten the life below 2 years. Higher amps only shorten life if they are above battery tolerances, which 2 amps is not.
Anyway, you'll want a 1 or 1.2 amp charger for slow charging
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2amps isn't going to shorten the life below 2 years. Higher amps only shorten life if they are above battery tolerances, which 2 amps is not.
Anyway, you'll want a 1 or 1.2 amp charger for slow charging
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Can i use this charger safely with the Nexus 6? After some researching this one is actually quickcharge 1.0 by the specs so i it should not be so "harsh" with the temperature on the phone.
mohijavata said:
Can i use this charger safely with the Nexus 6? After some researching this one is actually quickcharge 1.0 by the specs so i it should not be so "harsh" with the temperature on the phone.
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Yes.
If I were you, I would use the charger that comes with the Nexus 6. Which is tested by Motorola to work properly. I've had my Nexus 6 since December 2014 and no problems. I charge through my laptop will at work though.
logicrulez said:
If I were you, I would use the charger that comes with the Nexus 6. . .
I charge through my laptop will at work though.
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He wants slow charging. So charging through laptop / pc will be fine.
Charge cspacity of usb ports is 500 mA (900 mA for USB 3.0), that's good for slow charging.
Also 1-dollar charger from eBay will be fine.
NLBeev said:
He wants slow charging. So charging through laptop / pc will be fine.
Charge cspacity of usb ports is 500 mA (900 mA for USB 3.0), that's good for slow charging.
Also 1-dollar charger from eBay will be fine.
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He wants it but hasn't got a valid reason to want it. The motorola charger is the best charger to use and it won't shorten his battery life.
danarama said:
He wants it but hasn't got a valid reason to want it. The motorola charger is the best charger to use and it won't shorten his battery life.
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And slow charging won't lengthen it.;(
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And slow charging won't lengthen it.;(
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Nope. So the only thing that will change is his phone will take longer to charge.
That said for me, turbo charge stopped working and I'm very annoyed.
Google have first sent me a new charger which still hasn't arrived. Though I think the issue is the phone. But I wanted to avoid a refurb as long as possible. Can't live without turbo charge now.
I have this charger, http://www.walmart.com/ip/Belkin-F8J031TT04-BLK-Micro-Wall-car-Chrg-Kit-2.1a-10w-W-4ft/40457559, but i got just the charger for $20. It most definitely doesnt turbo charge, it takes atleast 2 hours, so id say its a "normal" charge for this phone and i think its better than the turbo charger, because it doesnt get hot and its still decently fast
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Google have first sent me a new charger which still hasn't arrived. Though I think the issue is the phone. But I wanted to avoid a refurb as long as possible. Can't live without turbo charge now.
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The turbo output is only supplied on turbo enabled devices. So there is something wrong with switching to turbo modes 9 V and/or 12 V
I am curious what is the cause of this issue.
Did you try an 'charge app' like Ultra Fast Charger.?
NLBeev said:
The turbo output is only supplied on turbo enabled devices. So there is something wrong with switching to turbo modes 9 V and/or 12 V
I am curious what is the cause of this issue.
Did you try an 'charge app' like Ultra Fast Charger.?
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I think its a usb port issue myself.
I don't know what a charge app is. I am monitoring my input though. I know the issue is not software as it just stopped working one day last weekend with no software changes.
Actually,.could even be the battery as.my wireless charger is very slow now too.
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I think its a usb port issue myself.
I don't know what a charge app is. I am monitoring my input though. I know the issue is not software as it just stopped working one day last weekend with no software changes.
Actually,.could even be the battery as.my wireless charger is very slow now too.
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There are some apps in the play store claiming to boost the battery charge.
When wireless charging is also slow, than it could be indeed the battery.
Maybe a complete discharging ?
BTW
Turbo mode is only active when the battery is less than 75% charged.
NLBeev said:
There are some apps in the play store claiming to boost the battery charge.
When wireless charging is also slow, than it could be indeed the battery.
Maybe a complete discharging ?
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Turbo mode is only active when the battery is less than 75% charged.
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I don't believe they can but I'm not.going.to try anyway.
You should use a 5 Volt 2 Amp charger, those chargers are the one's that most phones use. Most new phones are using Qualcomm's Quick Charge 2.0, which you should use but if you are not comftorable then the 5 Volt 2 Amp will work good.
Errr, QuickCharge will in fact degrade a battery faster, it's still used because most phones only have a 2 year lifespan.
A non QuickCharger will also make it run less hot while charging and also be less likely to cause cell expansion. Not sure why there's so many people denying this.
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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/04/150414094117.htm
Please don't tell him that it won't degrade his battery when it definitely will. It's basic chemistry.
To OP:
Any regular non Quick USB charger of reputable make will do fine. I use an older HTC charger. Don't get a super cheap offbrand one as it probably has fluctuating voltage which will also damage your battery.
seshmaru said:
Errr, QuickCharge will in fact degrade a battery faster, it's still used because most phones only have a 2 year lifespan.
A non QuickCharger will also make it run less hot while charging and also be less likely to cause cell expansion. Not sure why there's so many people denying this.
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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/04/150414094117.htm
Please don't tell him that it won't degrade his battery when it definitely will. It's basic chemistry.
To OP:
Any regular non Quick USB charger of reputable make will do fine. I use an older HTC charger. Don't get a super cheap offbrand one as it probably has fluctuating voltage which will also damage your battery.
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Actually you've misread (or not read fully). No one disputes the science. That article isn't accurate. All it says is "too quickly" and if you read what I have said, is that the turbo charger is within acceptable tolerances. I.E. It is not "too quickly"
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Actually you've misread (or not read fully). No one disputes the science. That article isn't accurate. All it says is "too quickly" and if you read what I have said, is that the turbo charger is within acceptable tolerances. I.E. It is not "too quickly"
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I think you're not understanding the basic chemistry. More heat = more degradation of the Li-ion battery, regardless of tolerances. A lower power charge will always degrade the battery slower. This isn't about tolerances.