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Hello, I've tried to do S-Off with Rumrunner, but Rumrunner says that I have to wait 30 seconds, then power on my phone and reopen rumrunner, but I've do it 819340810938409128049 times how i do it?
try 819340810938409128050 times
iLorenzo said:
Hello, I've tried to do S-Off with Rumrunner, but Rumrunner says that I have to wait 30 seconds, then power on my phone and reopen rumrunner, but I've do it 819340810938409128049 times how i do it?
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I think you are doing something wrong, i did S-off with rumrunner, and there was no such message. In fact, it will not ask you to reboot manually at all, see the instructions
http://rumrunner.us/instructions/
Agree to the terms and conditions you are prompted with in soju
Allow the exploit to do its work.
Your device will reboot several times throughout the process
Profit
Prash8429 said:
I think you are doing something wrong, i did S-off with rumrunner, and there was no such message. In fact, it will not ask you to reboot manually at all, see the instructions
http://rumrunner.us/instructions/
Agree to the terms and conditions you are prompted with in soju
Allow the exploit to do its work.
Your device will reboot several times throughout the process
Profit
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I've do all but it don't work!!
I had this problem earlier, try changing the usb port/usb cable & disable any virus protection/firewalls.
Also, make sure your 'OS' version on the bootloader matches the version of rumrunner you have downloaded.
Hey, I recently bought a used HTC One, I am new to android and I read something about hboots. Everyone says that hboot 1.55 is supported and is most likely the lastest, but what should I do if my hboot is 1.57... The HTC One is clearly purchased from 3, was also locked to it. newest software and everything. Tried fireburn and htcdev.com methods, none of them worked. with htcdev.com method, I come as far as I am supposed to choose yes or no in my phone, but the problem is that nothing comes up, it stays at power+vol down mode. Can anyone help? I want to flash a custom rom and a kernel, also root. Don't judge me as a bad tech, I am into tech, but that hboot is kinda confusing as my only android device was samsung galaxy mini and now I came to HTC One, it's kinda difficult to get to know.
Never heard of 1.57... But you can try to downgrade to 1.44 but that would mean you'd have to flash a 4.2.2 stock ROM or any 4.2.2 rom. Then run revone
Happy Flashing Sent from a proud owner of the HTC One.
Can you post a screen shot of your bootloader screen and adb output of fastboot getvar all?
sent from my mobile device
linuxas21 said:
Hey, I recently bought a used HTC One, I am new to android and I read something about hboots. Everyone says that hboot 1.55 is supported and is most likely the lastest, but what should I do if my hboot is 1.57... The HTC One is clearly purchased from 3, was also locked to it. newest software and everything. Tried fireburn and htcdev.com methods, none of them worked. with htcdev.com method, I come as far as I am supposed to choose yes or no in my phone, but the problem is that nothing comes up, it stays at power+vol down mode. Can anyone help? I want to flash a custom rom and a kernel, also root. Don't judge me as a bad tech, I am into tech, but that hboot is kinda confusing as my only android device was samsung galaxy mini and now I came to HTC One, it's kinda difficult to get to know.
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Bllooi said:
Never heard of 1.57... But you can try to downgrade to 1.44 but that would mean you'd have to flash a 4.2.2 stock ROM or any 4.2.2 rom. Then run revone
Happy Flashing Sent from a proud owner of the HTC One.
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SaHiLzZ said:
Can you post a screen shot of your bootloader screen and adb output of fastboot getvar all?
sent from my mobile device
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4.20.771.17 has hboot 1.57, but firewater/rumrunner doesn't work, not because of hboot version, it seems (for the moment at least), it doesn't work with H3G and T-Mo Germany devices.
Bllooi said:
Never heard of 1.57... But you can try to downgrade to 1.44 but that would mean you'd have to flash a 4.2.2 stock ROM or any 4.2.2 rom. Then run revone
Happy Flashing Sent from a proud owner of the HTC One.
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Given that he is S-ON I wouldn't have thought he would be able to flash anything lower than his current 4.4.2
I have the same problem here. Got a replacement One from o2 and it is on 1.57 with 4.4.2. I hear this update has now been pulled so we may be rare cases. I'm wondering if I should htcdev unlock it, root it and then try firewater for S-OFF. My only concern is that it will not work and I will be left UNLOCKED/RELOCKED/TAMPERED and will have no warranty. Considering I just got a warranty replace I feel I need it.
Comedy- said:
Given that he is S-ON I wouldn't have thought he would be able to flash anything lower than his current 4.4.2
I have the same problem here. Got a replacement One from o2 and it is on 1.57 with 4.4.2. I hear this update has now been pulled so we may be rare cases. I'm wondering if I should htcdev unlock it, root it and then try firewater for S-OFF. My only concern is that it will not work and I will be left UNLOCKED/RELOCKED/TAMPERED and will have no warranty. Considering I just got a warranty replace I feel I need it.
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Here's a thought, in order to avoid unlocking your phone: use firewater method 2 (ie with temproot exploit)... it will very likely not work, but it's better than unlocking your phone only to find out firewater won't work. (not that i'm saying it won't work... it may or may not work)
nkk71 said:
Here's a thought, in order to avoid unlocking your phone: use firewater method 2 (ie with temproot exploit)... it will very likely not work, but it's better than unlocking your phone only to find out firewater won't work. (not that i'm saying it won't work... it may or may not work)
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I tried method 2 first. The temproot exploit doors not work on 4.4.2
stuck on 1.57 from o2 repair center, cant s-off and got tampered
You should get unlocked by unlocking the bootloader again with a new unlock.bin from htcdev.com
Hboot 1.57
Im in the same situation, Hboot 1.57, H3G. Tried Firewater and Rumrunner. Neither work:crying:
The furthest I can get is:
Do you understand the implications of these warnings?
(Yes/No)
Yes
Yes
!!If firewater hangs for more than 2 minutes or device enters qhusb mode, ho
!!If firewater hangs for more than 2 minutes or device enters qhusb mode, ho
!!If firewater hangs for more than 2 minutes or device enters qhusb mode, ho
ld power for 60 seconds !!
=========================================================================
preparing, one moment
The first bottle is open
chugging..........
whelp, that bottle is empty, opening bottle 2
chugging..........
whelp, that bottle is empty, opening bottle 3
chugging..........
whelp, that bottle is empty, opening bottle 4
chugging..........
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Can anyone register on this chinese site and see if this is of any help? http://bbs.gfan.com/android-7271208-1-1.html
gffmac said:
The furthest I can get is:
Do you understand the implications of these warnings?
(Yes/No)
Yes
Yes
!!If firewater hangs for more than 2 minutes or device enters qhusb mode, ho
!!If firewater hangs for more than 2 minutes or device enters qhusb mode, ho
!!If firewater hangs for more than 2 minutes or device enters qhusb mode, ho
ld power for 60 seconds !!
=========================================================================
preparing, one moment
The first bottle is open
chugging..........
whelp, that bottle is empty, opening bottle 2
chugging..........
whelp, that bottle is empty, opening bottle 3
chugging..........
whelp, that bottle is empty, opening bottle 4
chugging..........
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Can anyone register on this chinese site and see if this is of any help? http://bbs.gfan.com/android-7271208-1-1.html
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Look here, it's an italian blog, they got s-0ff with firewater:
http://forum.hdblog.it/f654/[guida]-s-off-hboot-1-57-firewater-compattibile-con-tutti-hboot-86865/
HC4Life said:
Look here, it's an italian blog, they got s-0ff with firewater:
http://forum.hdblog.it/f654/[guida]-s-off-hboot-1-57-firewater-compattibile-con-tutti-hboot-86865/
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I was already looking at that lol, Only difference I can see is they were using viperone rom, gonna try that now.
Tried with ViperONE same issue
Just to let everyone know I finally got it to work! on hboot 1.57 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51576339&postcount=385
gffmac said:
Just to let everyone know I finally got it to work! on hboot 1.57 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51576339&postcount=385
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I can confirm this worked for me too. I have hboot 1.57 and my cid is H3G_001.
It really doesnt matter what hboot or cid you are with firewater. It depends on certain hardware revisions in your phone. If you get something other than the whelp message they you have a chance of getting s off. If you get the whelp message then you're stuck.
nateboi81 said:
It really doesnt matter what hboot or cid you are with firewater. It depends on certain hardware revisions in your phone. If you get something other than the whelp message they you have a chance of getting s off. If you get the whelp message then you're stuck.
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I got the whelp message. Are there any other alternatives for achieving S-Off?
rasstar said:
I got the whelp message. Are there any other alternatives for achieving S-Off?
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Not at the moment. Maybe in the future
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help
alanzo27 said:
I can confirm this worked for me too. I have hboot 1.57 and my cid is H3G_001.
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can you say me how, have same cid please :crying:
How do you get CID? I also got S-Off on 1.57, firewater worked perfectly.
Hi ! My htc one was in service, change main board and came back with last hboot 1.56 and stock 4.4.2 ,I have unlock boot loader ,costum Rom insertcoints last, I tried s-off from rumruner,monsine,firwather, I tried everything, please help to get s-off.
costinn9 said:
Hi ! My htc one was in service, change main board and came back with last hboot 1.56 and stock 4.4.2 ,I have unlock boot loader ,costum Rom insertcoints last, I tried s-off from rumruner,monsine,firwather, I tried everything, please help to get s-off.
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could i ask why you think you need s-off ? It seems you have done everything you can to your phone already
clsA said:
could i ask why you think you need s-off ? It seems you have done everything you can to your phone already
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I need s off to change firmware to 4.19.401.11 now I have 4.19.401.9
costinn9 said:
I need s off to change firmware to 4.19.401.11 now I have 4.19.401.9
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your firmware is fine
clsA said:
your firmware is fine
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I want the firmware because is better for my region, please help to get s off
costinn9 said:
I want the firmware because is better for my region, please help to get s off
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theirs almost no difference in the 2 firmwares .. your wasting your time
Firewater is your only real option ... if it's not working move on
What about with these specs:
** Tampered **
** unlocked **
M7_UL PVT SHIP S-ON RH
HBOOT-1.56.0000
RaDIO-4T.24.3218.09
OpenDSP-v32.120.274.0909
OS-4.18.502.7
eMMC-boot 2048MB
Jan 28 2014, 09.32.41.0
Will I be able to acheive S-off with Firewater or am I just wasting my time?
I want to upgrade my firmware, I am having alot of problems with my cell data that will turn off and then I have to reboot the phone to get it to turn back on.
I wish I could run GPE edition with Root for 4.4.4 but I do not know how to accomplish this or GPE edition (rooted) for Lollipop but all the roms demand that I have upgraded firmware. Please give me advice
fc3211 said:
What about with these specs:
** Tampered **
** unlocked **
M7_UL PVT SHIP S-ON RH
HBOOT-1.56.0000
RaDIO-4T.24.3218.09
OpenDSP-v32.120.274.0909
OS-4.18.502.7
eMMC-boot 2048MB
Jan 28 2014, 09.32.41.0
Will I be able to acheive S-off with Firewater or am I just wasting my time?
I want to upgrade my firmware, I am having alot of problems with my cell data that will turn off and then I have to reboot the phone to get it to turn back on.
I wish I could run GPE edition with Root for 4.4.4 but I do not know how to accomplish this or GPE edition (rooted) for Lollipop but all the roms demand that I have upgraded firmware. Please give me advice
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Firewater has been discontinued and will no longer work. But as your on hboot 1.56 you should try rumrunner :good:
Danny201281 said:
Firewater has been discontinued and will no longer work. But as your on hboot 1.56 you should try rumrunner :good:
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Thanks. I am currently using OmniRom 4.4.4 but on the rumrunner instructions it says to disable fastboot inside of settings > power
But I do not have a fastboot option in there or in any other menu item. Is it okay to proceed?
fc3211 said:
Thanks. I am currently using OmniRom 4.4.4 but on the rumrunner instructions it says to disable fastboot inside of settings > power
But I do not have a fastboot option in there or in any other menu item. Is it okay to proceed?
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I guess so most likely it's disabled by default or removed all together. Ideally though you should make a backup of your current Rom and flash a stock Rom. But there's no harm in trying with your current rom. It will either work or it won't but it shouldn't damage your phone in any way. :good:
OmniROM is based on stock Android, the fast boot feature is in Sense-only
fc3211 said:
Thanks. I am currently using OmniRom 4.4.4 but on the rumrunner instructions it says to disable fastboot inside of settings > power
But I do not have a fastboot option in there or in any other menu item. Is it okay to proceed?
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Stock rooted Rom is here if you need http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2676986
Danny201281 said:
Stock rooted Rom is here if you need http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2676986
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Thanks! I have been up for 7 hours working with different ROMS that have all failed.
Now let me try the one you have linked here. I want the deodex version, yes?
fc3211 said:
Thanks! I have been up for 7 hours working with different ROMS that have all failed.
Now let me try the one you have linked here. I want the deodex version, yes?
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odex or deodex I don't think matters to much. Aslong as its thecorrect stock rom for your firmware and its rooted :good:
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There's also this one. This is a true stock rom with the option to install with root http://www.htc1guru.com/2014/03/att-ruu/
Here is my most recent failure: (Using Venom 6.0.2)
Code:
[email protected] ~/Downloads/rumrunner_HTC_0.5.0 $ sudo ./soju
==================== rumrunner S-OFF 0.5.0 ==============================
rumrunner S-OFF comes with NO WARRANTY (express or implied)
and NO GUARANTEE OF FITNESS for any particular task.
We have made every effort we can to make this a safe process for users
however the authors disclaim any liability for damage to your phone
or other materials or devices used during this process.
The entire risk of running rumrunner S-OFF lies with you, the user.
By using this software you acknowledge and accept that the authors
are not liable for any loss, material or otherwise howsoever caused.
Do you understand the implications of this warning?
(Yes/No)
Yes
Dear User: We will expect that YOU:
(1) Know how to use ADB and FASTBOOT binaries
---- [Yes, use these tools to test USB connection BEFORE running rumrunner] ----
(2) Realize that rumrunner S-OFF cannot support every CUSTOM rom in this world
(3) Understand that irc support IS NOT A GENERAL HELPDESK
(4) Are able to identify and download the CORRECT package for YOUR device
(5) Know how to enable USB-debugging on YOUR device (Yes, do that now)
(6) Understand that you may NOT repack or redistribute rumrunner S-OFF
Ok?
(Yes/No)
Yes
!! Do NOT for any reason taunt, unplug, drop, eat or pet your device !!
Please wait....
Checking for updates......
Test 1: Rebooting into bootloader
Waiting for fastboot (6/120)
Waiting
Test 2: Booting device
Waiting for ADB (17/120)
must ferment longer...
must sanitize, skunky rum is nasty
hold please..............................................
[************************************************************]
Rebooting into bootloader (again)
Waiting for fastboot (6/120)
Waiting for ADB (17/120)
must ferment longer...
chilling..................
smells lovely in here....
bottles are packed, here we go, shhhhhh....
pouring (1)................
pouring (2)...............
pouring (3)...............
pouring (4)................
pouring (5)...............
pouring (6)................
pouring (7)................
pouring (8)...............
Wait 30 seconds, power on device, pray, run rumrunner again.
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Aw.....Crap! (With the AT&T stock Rom)
Now it appears I am moving backwards........ Sheesh, this is so frustrating
Code:
Ok?
(Yes/No)
Yes
!! Do NOT for any reason taunt, unplug, drop, eat or pet your device !!
Please wait....
Checking for updates......
it's a little stinky here, hmm....
bottles are packed, here we go, shhhhhh....
hmm, cap is on tighter than I expected........
hell, that damn cap is on REALLY tight.......
unfortunately this isn't going to work out with your configuration. you have 2 options:
1.) flash an unsecure kernel that's compatible with your ROM and retry rumrunner (preferred and most reliable method).
2.) flash a different rom.
NOTE: No amount of messing around with su binaries and apk's is going to fix this issue for you!!!.
Better luck next time!!!!bye
[email protected] ~/Downloads/rumrunner_HTC_0.5.0 $
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Man....sorry for the rant. I am so frustrated by this because I dont understand it
I bought this phone USED 4 months ago and the battery is weak and I feel so foolish for buying a used phone that was probably for sale because the battery was dwindling and im the idiot that paid $200 for this
I feel like such a chump, such a sucker for wasting my money and now just want to at least upgrade the firmware because I am having troubles with the data connection just drops and I have to reboot the phone to restore the data.
ANd now I see they are selling this phone NEW for $200 at BEST BUY and I will probably just have to bite the bullet but I tell you this: I will never again be such a fool to buy a used cell phone, I need my head examined to make such a mistake.
Im really feeling crummy about this situation =(
And I am taking the 70-410 exam on Monday, should be studying for that but went off on this tangent and would hate to FAIL at turning the S-OFF.
I work with Linux so am no stranger to frustration and hours of modifications to get things working.....but this here might have me licked
I fix everyone's computers for free in this town but this problem here has humbled me. S-ON =(
fc3211 said:
Here is my most recent failure: (Using Venom 6.0.2)
Code:
[email protected] ~/Downloads/rumrunner_HTC_0.5.0 $ sudo ./soju
==================== rumrunner S-OFF 0.5.0 ==============================
rumrunner S-OFF comes with NO WARRANTY (express or implied)
and NO GUARANTEE OF FITNESS for any particular task.
We have made every effort we can to make this a safe process for users
however the authors disclaim any liability for damage to your phone
or other materials or devices used during this process.
The entire risk of running rumrunner S-OFF lies with you, the user.
By using this software you acknowledge and accept that the authors
are not liable for any loss, material or otherwise howsoever caused.
Do you understand the implications of this warning?
(Yes/No)
Yes
Dear User: We will expect that YOU:
(1) Know how to use ADB and FASTBOOT binaries
---- [Yes, use these tools to test USB connection BEFORE running rumrunner] ----
(2) Realize that rumrunner S-OFF cannot support every CUSTOM rom in this world
(3) Understand that irc support IS NOT A GENERAL HELPDESK
(4) Are able to identify and download the CORRECT package for YOUR device
(5) Know how to enable USB-debugging on YOUR device (Yes, do that now)
(6) Understand that you may NOT repack or redistribute rumrunner S-OFF
Ok?
(Yes/No)
Yes
!! Do NOT for any reason taunt, unplug, drop, eat or pet your device !!
Please wait....
Checking for updates......
Test 1: Rebooting into bootloader
Waiting for fastboot (6/120)
Waiting
Test 2: Booting device
Waiting for ADB (17/120)
must ferment longer...
must sanitize, skunky rum is nasty
hold please..............................................
[************************************************************]
Rebooting into bootloader (again)
Waiting for fastboot (6/120)
Waiting for ADB (17/120)
must ferment longer...
chilling..................
smells lovely in here....
bottles are packed, here we go, shhhhhh....
pouring (1)................
pouring (2)...............
pouring (3)...............
pouring (4)................
pouring (5)...............
pouring (6)................
pouring (7)................
pouring (8)...............
Wait 30 seconds, power on device, pray, run rumrunner again.
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Aw.....Crap! (With the AT&T stock Rom)
Now it appears I am moving backwards........ Sheesh, this is so frustrating
Code:
Ok?
(Yes/No)
Yes
!! Do NOT for any reason taunt, unplug, drop, eat or pet your device !!
Please wait....
Checking for updates......
it's a little stinky here, hmm....
bottles are packed, here we go, shhhhhh....
hmm, cap is on tighter than I expected........
hell, that damn cap is on REALLY tight.......
unfortunately this isn't going to work out with your configuration. you have 2 options:
1.) flash an unsecure kernel that's compatible with your ROM and retry rumrunner (preferred and most reliable method).
2.) flash a different rom.
NOTE: No amount of messing around with su binaries and apk's is going to fix this issue for you!!!.
Better luck next time!!!!bye
[email protected] ~/Downloads/rumrunner_HTC_0.5.0 $
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Man....sorry for the rant. I am so frustrated by this because I dont understand it
I bought this phone USED 4 months ago and the battery is weak and I feel so foolish for buying a used phone that was probably for sale because the battery was dwindling and im the idiot that paid $200 for this
I feel like such a chump, such a sucker for wasting my money and now just want to at least upgrade the firmware because I am having troubles with the data connection just drops and I have to reboot the phone to restore the data.
ANd now I see they are selling this phone NEW for $200 at BEST BUY and I will probably just have to bite the bullet but I tell you this: I will never again be such a fool to buy a used cell phone, I need my head examined to make such a mistake.
Im really feeling crummy about this situation =(
And I am taking the 70-410 exam on Monday, should be studying for that but went off on this tangent and would hate to FAIL at turning the S-OFF.
I work with Linux so am no stranger to frustration and hours of modifications to get things working.....but this here might have me licked
I fix everyone's computers for free in this town but this problem here has humbled me. S-ON =(
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There is no exact science to using rumrunner unfortunatly, It does tend to be a little trial and error on the older hboots. It's normal to get some problems like this. Firewater was even worse. If you want super easy s-off then Sunshine app is the way to go although you do have to pay $25 to use it.
Well neither of these attempts actually were so bad the first appears to have worked (as in the exploit completed) But unfortunate didn't get you s-off.
In the second attempt it's telling you what to do
Code:
hmm, cap is on tighter than I expected........
hell, that damn cap is on REALLY tight.......
unfortunately this isn't going to work out with your configuration. you have 2 options:
1.) [B]flash an unsecure kernel that's compatible with your ROM [/B]and retry rumrunner (preferred and most reliable method).
2.) [B]flash a different rom[/B].
Try that rom again but with an Unsecured Kernel I recommend Bulletproof kernel. You'll want the 4.4.2 Kernel here http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23329332407588021 :good:
Thanks man
Quick question: If somebody had never rooted the device from stock and had accepted the OTA update to Lollipop would the firmware be upgraded as well? Or is it the same firmware that stays?
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What is HTC's major intention anyway to make it so difficult to achieve S-off? If it was a closed-source OS like Apple I would understand but it seems like they went out of their way to make this so extremely difficult (Based on all the posts I have read).
Its these same guys that left the OS at 4.4.2 without updates until most recently. They didnt want to "be bothered" to make the code for 4.4.3 or 4.4.4 but yet they want to brickwall any independent programmers that are trying to add value to their product and not even getting paid?
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This phone was designed from the ground up with built-in functional obsolence...... They stuff the battery so far deep to make it almost impossible to replace knowing full well that this would be the achille's heel to make the phones fit for disposal in the trash bin after the 1 year warranty had expired., after the battery would fail.
Its bad for the environment and a disturbing trend with modern day electronics. I will not be buying an M8 knowing what these crooks are up to. They spit in the face of their customers when they DESIGN a product to expire like a carton of milk
fc3211 said:
Thanks man
Quick question: If somebody had never rooted the device from stock and had accepted the OTA update to Lollipop would the firmware be upgraded as well? Or is it the same firmware that stays?
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If you update a phone via official OTA updates the firmware will be updated as well as the rom.
What is HTC's major intention anyway to make it so difficult to achieve S-off? If it was a closed-source OS like Apple I would understand but it seems like they went out of their way to make this so extremely difficult (Based on all the posts I have read).
Its these same guys that left the OS at 4.4.2 without updates until most recently. They didnt want to "be bothered" to make the code for 4.4.3 or 4.4.4 but yet they want to brickwall any independent programmers that are trying to add value to their product and not even getting paid?
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This question has been asked more than once before and the answer quite simply is HTC really don't care if your device is s-on or s-off. You can even send your phone for warranty repair with s-off as long as the bootloader is Locked and the Software is stock and untampered with when they receive it they will repair the device according to your warranty. The Android OS is indeed open source and you do not need to have s-off to modify the OS all you need for that is an Unlocked Bootloader which as you probably know HTC offer as a free service :good:
So why do we have s-on and s-off? I hear you ask. There are two main reasons HTC supply phones with s-on.
Reason #1 - To safe guard them as a manufacturer, against false warranty claims. It's very difficult to do any pertinent damage to a phone that is s-on. As the major Partitions that house the devices firmware are protected by the s-on. With s-off you can if your not careful completely brick your device, and why should HTC honor the warranty in such a case. If everyone who gains s-off and flashes things wrecklesly and borks their device can just send for a replacement under warranty where would that leave HTC. They'd be bankrupt in a few years.
Reason #2 And as far as i can tell the main reason we have s-on. To sell more handsets HTC need to have supply contracts with all the major carriers (Orange, O2, H3G and T Mobile and so on) Carriers demand that these devices be supplied with s-on. Because with s-off we have the power to change the firmware. Completely rebranding or debranding a device without there permission or consent. The carriers don't like this so to keep them happy HTC supply there devices with s-on
And just to expand on this, The truth is although contrary to popular belief you do not need s-off to update your firmware. As long as you use HTC signed firmware from OTA updates and you relock your bootloader you can flash firmware UPDATES manually through fastboot.
The advantages of s-off are, You can flash firmware without relocking your bootloader. You can also downgrade firmware which is not possible with s-on, and you can flash customized firmware packages that aren't signed by HTC. Also you can change the CID and MID of your device allowing you to rebrand the phone. You can also sim unlock without a sim unlock code and many more wonderful things
This phone was designed from the ground up with built-in functional obsolence...... They stuff the battery so far deep to make it almost impossible to replace knowing full well that this would be the achille's heel to make the phones fit for disposal in the trash bin after the 1 year warranty had expired., after the battery would fail.
Its bad for the environment and a disturbing trend with modern day electronics. I will not be buying an M8 knowing what these crooks are up to. They spit in the face of their customers when they DESIGN a product to expire like a carton of milk
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I do agree that most electronic devices these days are designed to fail though. And in most cases it's normally cheaper to replace than to repair. Which I think is wrong. The electronic industry has become a bit of a throw away society and I think its somthing that should be more tightly regulated. :good:
fc3211 said:
What is HTC's major intention anyway to make it so difficult to achieve S-off? If it was a closed-source OS like Apple I would understand but it seems like they went out of their way to make this so extremely difficult (Based on all the posts I have read).
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Well see that is what you are missing. HTC distro is closed sourced. Sense is Closed sourced. Heck even android is closed sourced except for the AOSP project, and even some of those aspects are closed.
fc3211 said:
I bought this phone USED 4 months ago and the battery is weak and I feel so foolish for buying a used phone that was probably for sale because the battery was dwindling and im the idiot that paid $200 for this
I feel like such a chump, such a sucker for wasting my money and now just want to at least upgrade the firmware because I am having troubles with the data connection just drops and I have to reboot the phone to restore the data.
ANd now I see they are selling this phone NEW for $200 at BEST BUY and I will probably just have to bite the bullet but I tell you this: I will never again be such a fool to buy a used cell phone, I need my head examined to make such a mistake.
Im really feeling crummy about this situation =(
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Sorry you had such a bad experience buying a used phone. I myself have both bought and sold used phones without any regrets to speak of.
My wife / Daughter / and Granddaughter are all using Samsung Note 2 phones I bought used without any problems (replaced one battery). I have bought and sold an M7 and 3 iPhones that all looked and worked flawlessly. I have also bought/sold an LG Optimous G that was in perfect working condition.
I guess it's just luck really ... the M7 I sold had the pink camera issue and I warned the buyer and they did not care at all.
As for the S-off issue I had best luck with hboot 1.54 and stock rooted 3.x software, ARHD 31.6 if i recall.
After trying for hours to s-off, I have nothing to show for it. My boot loader is unlocked and I'm on 1.56 with viperone. I've tried firewater and rumrunner and neither have given me anything.
Firewater just gives the whelp message for whatever reason and rumrunner just runs through the 8 things and says reboot and run again and it keeps doing the same thing.
What has worked for you guys? The last time I did this I was able to use revone but now I have a new One that I got from at&t warranty.
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After trying for hours to s-off, I have nothing to show for it. My boot loader is unlocked and I'm on 1.56 with viperone. I've tried firewater and rumrunner and neither have given me anything.
Firewater just gives the whelp message for whatever reason and rumrunner just runs through the 8 things and says reboot and run again and it keeps doing the same thing.
What has worked for you guys? The last time I did this I was able to use revone but now I have a new One that I got from at&t warranty.
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... FireWater has been known best for 1.56 hboot. You should try some more even if you are already tired of doing that. Never let the device sleep during the process cuz it asks for superuser permissions many times. Even if this doesnt help, download another copy of Firewater and then try again :good: ...
If Firewater says whelp this sucks Firewater won't work blah blah then no amount of changing roms will help. You're stuck
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Use usb 2.0 port???
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Hello all, so i want to s-off my HTC One, i tried everything, but still cant get s-off, my CID 9001, android 4.4.2, unlocked bootloader, phone is rooted, firewater shows whelp, any ideas for my situation?
Change ur kernel for elementalx 14.11 not other must be this one and use firewater. When firewater ask u to write " yes" do it with BIG leeter "Y" like this : Yes
Edit : dont forget to have Internet connection
Good luck ?
pawslo1984 said:
Change ur kernel for elementalx 14.11 not other must be this one and use firewater. When firewater ask u to write " yes" do it with BIG leeter "Y" like this : Yes
Edit : dont forget to have Internet connection
Good luck ?
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I'm still get whelp...
Make a photo and show me please
Wysłane z mojego HTC One przy użyciu Tapatalka
pawslo1984 said:
Make a photo and show me please
Wysłane z mojego HTC One przy użyciu Tapatalka
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Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
C:\Users\AsRock>adb reboot
C:\Users\AsRock>adb wait-for-device push firewater /data/local/tmp
4980 KB/s (4522136 bytes in 0.886s)
C:\Users\AsRock>adb shell
[email protected]:/ # su
su
[email protected]:/ # chmod 755 /data/local/tmp/firewater
chmod 755 /data/local/tmp/firewater
[email protected]:/ # /data/local/tmp/firewater
/data/local/tmp/firewater
==================== firewater S-OFF 8.0.7.24 ===========================
firewater S-OFF comes with NO WARRANTY (express or implied)
and NO GUARANTEE OF FITNESS for any particular task.
We have made every effort we can to make this a safe process for users
however the authors disclaim any liability for damage to your phone
or other materials or devices used during this process.
The entire risk of running firewater S-OFF lies with you, the user.
By using this software you acknowledge and accept that the authors
are not liable for any loss, material or otherwise howsoever caused.
firewater S-OFF may not be rehosted, repackaged, one-clicked, etc.
support is available @ #firewater on the freenode and andirc networks
support is much faster there vs. posting helpme threads on xda etc
Do not operate a motor vehicle after interacting with firewater
Do not inhale firewater or allow firewater to come in contact with eyes
firewater is best served at extremely cold temperatures
firewater has been known to cause temporary lapses in judgement
DO NOT TAUNT FIREWATER, YOU'VE BEEN WARNED
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Do you understand the implications of these warnings?
(Yes/No)
Yes
Yes
!!If firewater hangs for more than 2 minutes or device enters qhusb mode, ho
!!If firewater hangs for more than 2 minutes or device enters qhusb mode, ho
!!If firewater hangs for more than 2 minutes or device enters qhusb mode, ho
ld power for 60 seconds !!
=========================================================================
preparing, one moment
The first bottle is open
chugging..........
********** whelp, this sucks, firewater can not work on your device **********
********** no amount of reflashing, retrying, or ruuing will fix... **********
********** DO NOT COME TO IRC ASKING FOR UPDATES OR ETAS!!!!!! **********
********** if we are able to fix this issue, it will be announced **********
********** bye bye.....sorry it didn't work out. **********
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Sorry m8 but probbaly memory chip is incompatible and there is no way to soff ur device at the moment ? If im wrong please correct me anyone
pawslo1984 said:
Sorry m8 but probbaly memory chip is incompatible and there is no way to soff ur device at the moment ? If im wrong please correct me anyone
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Theres a photo
That way i wrote that THERE IS NO WAY TO S-OFF UR DEVICE AT THE MOMENT (for free) ur chip is incompatible so sorry dude i cant help U more