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HI,
Here's an idea for developers who doesn't know what app to write next.
I was thinking about using a front camera as a ear/face detector. You start it along with the dialer and monitor the output. As long as the picture is bright above set threshold app does nothing, once the picture tuns black (when you put the phone to your head) the app turns off the screen, turns off outer speaker etc.
There is of course problem of calls at night but still I think it would be nice and maybe even useful app.
So, anyone want to try ?
I'd have thought the biggest problem here would be telling the difference between my ear and the inside of my pocket.
a motion sensor would be helpfull here :/
there was a great discussion about wearable computing on the chaos communication congress a few weeks ago.
they mentioned problems like "where is the device" ie. tracking the position on your body. on possible solution is sending and recognizing a sound played by the external speaker and recorded via the mic thus you can determine if its in the pocket or not
dancj said:
I'd have thought the biggest problem here would be telling the difference between my ear and the inside of my pocket.
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Would this really be a problem? I'd think that turning the screen off while the device is in your pocket would be just as useful as while near your face.
rafgerm said:
HI,
There is of course problem of calls at night
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This could be at least partially solved by using the system clock to only have the app active during specified hours of the day.
sinning said:
Would this really be a problem? I'd think that turning the screen off while the device is in your pocket would be just as useful as while near your face.
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Not to mention that the idea mentioned in the original post suggested starting the "ear-detection" with the dialer. Hopefully you don't routinely use the dialer while it's in your pocket.
This is a great idea... but do get me wrong; a face recognition app to unlock the device could be a start
Ignore me I'm an idiot. I thought you wanted the phone to answer when it's up against your ear.
Stay with me now, I haven't seen anyone talk about this so this is either perfectly normal or something is wrong with my phone. I just got my phone today, but when you shake or lightly tap the top of the phone to your palm, the phone makes a noise as if something is lose inside, a rattle if you will.
To me it sounds like the internal weight that causes the phone to vibrate. I first noticed it simply setting the phone down on my desk this morning, and started trying to find ways to reproduce the noise (tapping to your palm works best)
What concerns me is that my G1 didn't make this noise, and i'm just wondering if everyone else's N1 does this. So if anyone can confirm my insanity, that would be great.
I can't say I am getting the same noise with my phone. (Thankfully)
I must say the biggest thing I **DON'T** miss is the SQUEEKY sounds my old G1 would make!!!!
No idea what youre talkin about
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Stay with me now, I haven't seen anyone talk about this so this is either perfectly normal or something is wrong with my phone. I just got my phone today, but when you shake or lightly tap the top of the phone to your palm, the phone makes a noise as if something is lose inside, a rattle if you will.
To me it sounds like the internal weight that causes the phone to vibrate. I first noticed it simply setting the phone down on my desk this morning, and started trying to find ways to reproduce the noise (tapping to your palm works best)
What concerns me is that my G1 didn't make this noise, and i'm just wondering if everyone else's N1 does this. So if anyone can confirm my insanity, that would be great.
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Hey, I totally know what you are talking about
Nothing is wrong with the phone Sounds like a normal plastic vibration. It is either the trackball or the accelerometer. Our it could be something else those are just my best guess.
As far as I am concerned it is just a little loose, but now that I think about it the headphone jack could be making the noise. That recedes into the phone body so requires a casing to insert the jack into the phone.
Nothing to be alarmed about.
Hrm, Well I can say its not the trackball (although that initially made the most sense!), I could still hear the noise wile holding the trackball. And I tried the same thing with headphones connected, and could still hear it. But, its reassuring that my phone isn't the only one doing this.
I get the same thing. Could be the vibra motor. like shaking a ps3 controller produces similar feedback of something moving around.
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I get the same thing. Could be the vibra motor. like shaking a ps3 controller produces similar feedback of something moving around.
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it is either this or the accelerometer, you phone is fine, stop worrying...
JHaste said:
it is either this or the accelerometer, you phone is fine, stop worrying...
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Yup, just wanted to make sure it was normal. I'm pretty sure this is accurate.
the rattle noise is most definatly the auto focus camera. It commonly affects the iPhone 3GS, it doesnt cause any problems, but if the rattle gets to you you can send it in if you so wish.
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the rattle noise is most definatly the auto focus camera. It commonly affects the iPhone 3GS, it doesnt cause any problems, but if the rattle gets to you you can send it in if you so wish.
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i stand corrected? regardless its still fine lol
melterx12 said:
the rattle noise is most definatly the auto focus camera. It commonly affects the iPhone 3GS, it doesnt cause any problems, but if the rattle gets to you you can send it in if you so wish.
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Hey, you are 100% correct!. I can hear it after when I have it snap pictures, exact same noise. I probably won't be able to stand it and will have it fixed/replaced. But that is most defiantly it.
i wouldnt exactly go sending it in.. this is normal.. mine does the same thing.. so does my mother's eris..
Mine does this as well and I too find it extremely annoying. Can anyone possibly confirm if they all do this and if it is normal or not?
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How anyone can find this extremely annoying is beyond me..
Stop using your phone as maracas I say.
My Nexus One just recently started doing this, I haven't dropped it or banged it against anything either. It happens when I open and close any app that uses the camera.
webgrafix said:
I must say the biggest thing I **DON'T** miss is the SQUEEKY sounds my old G1 would make!!!!
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Lol those squeeks were so fregin annoying.
i have the same thing on HTC Desire
I have the same rattling noise. I even hear it when I have the haptic feedback on. Each vibration leads to this rattling/crackling noise. Super annoying.
indeed it's the camera. i especially notice it when using the barcode scanner app.
Hi,
How do you find the vibration motor noise when pressing soft keys etc.?
I'm coming from a Nexus 5 and it seems a bit loud and rattly on the new Moto X. I can't work out if it's normal or not.
I tried to make a recording but it seems near impossible to get a good one that's reflective of what I actually hear.
Thanks
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hi,
how do you find the vibration motor noise when pressing soft keys etc.?
I'm coming from a nexus 5 and it seems a bit loud and rattly on the new moto x. I can't work out if it's normal or not.
I tried to make a recording but it seems near impossible to get a good one that's reflective of what i actually hear.
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Mine sounds like its trying to buzzsaw its way out of the bamboo lol. I was going to check some in store units to see if its similar. How's everyone else's?
mine is waaaay too strong i kinda love it but it startles me frequently, is there a way to dial it back some?
The vibration when I press my keys is fine, but the vibration when I get a call or text is loud as hell...
Does anyone know how to turn off the increasing volume for the ringtone, i just want it full at first ring
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Does anyone know how to turn off the increasing volume for the ringtone, i just want it full at first ring
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Im curious about this too. I've noticed that it "increases" with everything though; notifications, alarms and even playing youtube videos. I wonder if this is a bug to be fixed at some point.
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Im curious about this too. I've noticed that it "increases" with everything though; notifications, alarms and even playing youtube videos. I wonder if this is a bug to be fixed at some point.
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I don't think it's a bug. It is standard behavior on Moto phones. Although it annoys me too.
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I don't think it's a bug. It is standard behavior on Moto phones. Although it annoys me too.
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Really? Granted, I havent had a Moto phone since the original Atrix but I dont remember it happening on that. I dont necessarily care that it increases on ringtones or alarms, its mostly for maybe a half second. The problem is notification tones that are about half a second long that i dont hear.
I love this feature, I hate sudden loud ringtone.
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I love this feature, I hate sudden loud ringtone.
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I agree, I kinda like this feature too. Just some food for thought guys - the speakers on this phone are pretty powerful. The gradual escalating volume might be a measure to ensure that the speakers don't blow out.
Sent from my 64GB MB Nexus 6
I too want first ring to be at the setting I choose, not gradual.
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I agree, I kinda like this feature too. Just some food for thought guys - the speakers on this phone are pretty powerful. The gradual escalating volume might be a measure to ensure that the speakers don't blow out.
Sent from my 64GB MB Nexus 6
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If saving the speakers from blowing might be reason this is done, then why isn't it applied to alarms, youtube etc?
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If saving the speakers from blowing might be reason this is done, then why isn't it applied to alarms, youtube etc?
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I'm not sure, that's a pretty good question. I might be wrong, but maybe Google assumed that 1) YouTube videos are watched at a user-defined volume anyway, so why mess with it, and 2) there are apps that have volume escalation for alarms, and we'll install them if we want them.
Honestly, I have no idea. All I know it's that 1) there are many times when my ring tone volume was all the way up, and an incoming call would be a shock to me, when it started blaring, and 2) my girlfriend is loud as hell, so it's nice to have my phone controlling the initial volume of her voice, lol.
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Considering just about every app that has sound doesn't do this I doubt its to prevent anything.
Most phone besides moto have ascending ringtones etc. I'm sure there will be a way to get rid of it eventually
When the ringtone/alarm/notification starts, does anyone else have a brief, less than half second, slightly louder tone play? It almost sounds like a pop before my ringer starts to fade in, but you can hear it's the beginning of the tone, just slightly louder then it goes quiet, and fades in
Edit: just did a little testing, it doesn't always happen, it seems like I could force it if I opened a game (clash of clans) for a couple seconds, then stopped and locked the phone.. then when the ringer starts it does the brief less than half second at a med-low volume, then goes to low and starts ramping up. The next call the ringer behaves normally, starts at low and ramps up.
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When the ringtone/alarm/notification starts, does anyone else have a brief, less than half second, slightly louder tone play? It almost sounds like a pop before my ringer starts to fade in, but you can hear it's the beginning of the tone, just slightly louder then it goes quiet, and fades in
Edit: just did a little testing, it doesn't always happen, it seems like I could force it if I opened a game (clash of clans) for a couple seconds, then stopped and locked the phone.. then when the ringer starts it does the brief less than half second at a med-low volume, then goes to low and starts ramping up. The next call the ringer behaves normally, starts at low and ramps up.
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yes, i get that sometimes.
ok cool, just got the phone last Wed, and with some of the quality issues that have been popping up, I'm trying to rule out any defects before it's too late lol.. great phone so far, just a few weird quirks like this, hopefully they'll get them ironed out in a timely manner.
I don't mind it on my call ringtone, but it is really annoying with my facebook messenger or my text messages. It also doesn't help that if the notifications aren't full volume then I can't hear anything; because the front facing speakers are always up against my leg in my pocket.
Any word on a work around for this yet?
There is an app in the Play store called "disable increasing ring" and it works great
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There is an app in the Play store called "disable increasing ring" and it works great
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Tried it, not working on my Rooted, unlocked Nexus 6
Any devlopments? I cant stand this "feature" (mainly for alarms).
bump again. Would love to get rid of it. It even does a gradual volume increase when switching from handset to speakerphone on a call. And that's just silly.
Still no solution to this miserable "feature"? Drives me nuts.....
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mine feels weird,when you stop typing for 5sec, you can hear a very very small tone that kinda tells the sound booster or something is shutting off,and when resume typing, the typing sound will go from low to high,first 2 taps are low,,and also the back of it,its glass but try pressing it, you can feel the inside or you can hear some crackling noise like plastic,,not like the first razer,,do u guys have this problems also?
I have not experienced any of these issues as of yet. I'll update if I do now that I'm aware though. Thank you.
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mine feels weird,when you stop typing for 5sec, you can hear a very very small tone that kinda tells the sound booster or something is shutting off,and when resume typing, the typing sound will go from low to high,first 2 taps are low,,and also the back of it,its glass but try pressing it, you can feel the inside or you can hear some crackling noise like plastic,,not like the first razer,,do u guys have this problems also?
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I started having the speaker pop issue start recently. It's any time after something uses the speakers. Like you can hear the amp shutting off. I've had the phone since Monday and mostly keep it on mute so maybe I just haven't noticed it before. But this weekend I've been playing more with the ringtones, notification, etc. It's kind of irritating now.
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I started having the speaker pop issue start recently. It's any time after something uses the speakers. Like you can hear the amp shutting off. I've had the phone since Monday and mostly keep it on mute so maybe I just haven't noticed it before. But this weekend I've been playing more with the ringtones, notification, etc. It's kind of irritating now.
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How about the back of ur phone when u press it with a little force?does it make any sound like an empty bottle water?
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mine feels weird,when you stop typing for 5sec, you can hear a very very small tone that kinda tells the sound booster or something is shutting off,and when resume typing, the typing sound will go from low to high,first 2 taps are low,,and also the back of it,its glass but try pressing it, you can feel the inside or you can hear some crackling noise like plastic,,not like the first razer,,do u guys have this problems also?
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I too have the crackling sound when pressing on the lower third of the back of the phone. Not sure what about the sound 5 seconds after typing but I have noticed that some times the sound is quiet from time to time seems random to me. I also have an issue where after the phone has been quiet for a while the tap sound from a navigation button is way over driven and very loud. That to seems to happen randomly.
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I too have the crackling sound when pressing on the lower third of the back of the phone. Not sure what about the sound 5 seconds after typing but I have noticed that some times the sound is quiet from time to time seems random to me. I also have an issue where after the phone has been quiet for a while the tap sound from a navigation button is way over driven and very loud. That to seems to happen randomly.
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So the empty water bottle sound in the back is normal? I contacted them and the ask for a video about it
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So the empty water bottle sound in the back is normal? I contacted them and the ask for a video about it
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I don't know if two people having the problem is 'normal' it would be nice if more people would chime in. What did support say?
They ask me to send a video,ima live chat them on my break today,,i just posted my video on their fb page,razer support kinda sux
bisdak4life said:
mine feels weird,when you stop typing for 5sec, you can hear a very very small tone that kinda tells the sound booster or something is shutting off,and when resume typing, the typing sound will go from low to high,first 2 taps are low,,and also the back of it,its glass but try pressing it, you can feel the inside or you can hear some crackling noise like plastic,,not like the first razer,,do u guys have this problems also?
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They ask me to send a video,ima live chat them on my break today,,i just posted my video on their fb page,razer support kinda sux
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After watching the tear down video what I believe your hearing is the glass back making contact with the plastic that covers the wireless charging part and then separating from it when you relieve the pressure. I'm betting the rubbery plastic covering the wireless charging pad is slightly tacky.
I'm experiencing this since you asked, probably wouldn't be if you didn't lol
Also have popping noise since the Razer update randomly and when I use the touchpad, it's annoying, I think the problem is software, and hopefully will get fixed soon, as for the enjoy l empty water bottle sure when squeezing the lower third of the phone, I think it's an adhesive thing like notasaurus says
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After watching the tear down video what I believe your hearing is the glass back making contact with the plastic that covers the wireless charging part and then separating from it when you relieve the pressure. I'm betting the rubbery plastic covering the wireless charging pad is slightly tacky.
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So is it normal?or no?i checked the note and iphonX and both of them dont have this problem
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I too have the crackling sound when pressing on the lower third of the back of the phone. Not sure what about the sound 5 seconds after typing but I have noticed that some times the sound is quiet from time to time seems random to me. I also have an issue where after the phone has been quiet for a while the tap sound from a navigation button is way over driven and very loud. That to seems to happen randomly.
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They said phone was damaged,i asked for replacement,its weird they cant give me a return shippung label right away,i have to wait 2-3 business days because pone is out of stock,i mean why cant they send me the return label while waiting for the stock,,well i'll wait till friday, you too ask for replacement or refund
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After watching the tear down video what I believe your hearing is the glass back making contact with the plastic that covers the wireless charging part and then separating from it when you relieve the pressure. I'm betting the rubbery plastic covering the wireless charging pad is slightly tacky.
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I doubt its the wireless charging part. Even when pressing down where the logo is, I still hear the crackling sound.
I also have the same issues
Just wanted to add a vote to the crinkling when squeezing the phone and the speakers popping. No other issues with the phone so far. (For me personally, the crinkling when squeezing the phone isn't an issue.)
I'm not sure if this helps (I don't own the device) but I remember reading somewhere another user faced the same speaker sound popping issue, and what they did was go to Settings > Sound and turned off. . . one of the "Other Sounds" sounds. I can't recall which one but try turning off all - Dial pad tones, screen locking sounds, charging sounds, touch sounds and touch vibration(?) ... see if that helps? One of them was supposed to fix it.
Again, I don't own the device, I just remember reading this somewhere, some other user faced this issue.
Lockbutton doesn't feel right
I have a weird feeling with the lock button, it's not feeling like a button. Could it be that it's stuck inside? Just unboxed it... Can't really press it - only tap it. I have the Razer Phone V1 which has a defined click, but the V2 feels more like those home buttons from iPhones with the taptic engine instead of a real button but without a tap feeling. Is that normal? Otherwise I will make a refund on Amazon and get a cheaper one from the Razer store...
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I have a weird feeling with the lock button, it's not feeling like a button. Could it be that it's stuck inside? Just unboxed it... Can't really press it - only tap it. I have the Razer Phone V1 which has a defined click, but the V2 feels more like those home buttons from iPhones with the taptic engine instead of a real button but without a tap feeling. Is that normal? Otherwise I will make a refund on Amazon and get a cheaper one from the Razer store...
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From your description, it sounds like you received a defective phone or something.
Haven't used the Razer V1 phone, but have used 2 different Razer Phone 2s and both have physical clicks. In addition to the feel, there's an audible click also (coming from the button itself--not artificial). I will say that because the button sits flush with the phone, it feels "different" than other phones I've had because tbe frame of the phone protects the button. But it should physically depress.
Regarding the clicking speaker sounds you have been describing, your feedback is welcome! Please join and contribute to the XDA thread Snap sound coming from speakers.
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From your description, it sounds like you received a defective phone or something.
Haven't used the Razer V1 phone, but have used 2 different Razer Phone 2s and both have physical clicks. In addition to the feel, there's an audible click also (coming from the button itself--not artificial). I will say that because the button sits flush with the phone, it feels "different" than other phones I've had because tbe frame of the phone protects the button. But it should physically depress.
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Ok, talked to the support yesterday and they say that it's a defect. And that they will send me a new one.
Oh man, Razer definitely has to improve their quality check procedures. I have now my 3rd Razer Phone V1 (one with defect speakers and one with a digitizer malfunction) and now my 2nd Razer Phone V2 after that problem with the lock button.
Never had problems like that with my Nexus 5X or my Moto G... And those were a lot cheaper.