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What are the advantages, if any, of the Moto X Developer Edition? Right now it is a $50 premium for the dev edition, but if I can accomplish the same thing on my own with a regular Moto X, is it really worth the extra $50?
coreno said:
What are the advantages, if any, of the Moto X Developer Edition? Right now it is a $50 premium for the dev edition, but if I can accomplish the same thing on my own with a regular Moto X, is it really worth the extra $50?
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the only thing you will see is it allows you to unlock the bootloader which makes rooting possible on all OTA's because you can just flash a customer recovery.
also when you unlock the bootloader on a consumer Moto X you void warranty when you do it on a DE Moto X it dose not.
dray_jr said:
the only thing you will see is it allows you to unlock the bootloader which makes rooting possible on all OTA's because you can just flash a customer recovery.
also when you unlock the bootloader on a consumer Moto X you void warranty when you do it on a DE Moto X it dose not.
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Also, you get 32gb vs 16gb of storage.
The Dev Edition is also 32 GB, so it's actually the same price as the 32 GB carrier edition.
Can you do a full nandroid on the regular edition?
Also, I've read on twitter the non-dev edition may be locked down for good on 4.4.2.
If you want root, you may as well get the Dev edition to guarantee it.
Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X
coreno said:
What are the advantages, if any, of the Moto X Developer Edition? Right now it is a $50 premium for the dev edition, but if I can accomplish the same thing on my own with a regular Moto X, is it really worth the extra $50?
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If you don't care about the astheitcs then yes it's worth it!! You get an unlocked bootloader ANd Motorola will still backup up the warranty. As to what extent they will back the warranty you would have to ask customer service.
Hope that helps
Schaweet said:
Can you do a full nandroid on the regular edition?
Also, I've read on twitter the non-dev edition may be locked down for good on 4.4.2.
If you want root, you may as well get the Dev edition to guarantee it.
Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X
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Yes you can do a nandroid on any moto with a unlocked boot loader
No we are not locked in anymore than you are , the new bootloader 30.b4 can not be downgrade , that goes also for developer editions
There's no differences between de and regular editions with a unlocked booloader. The differences are the warranty, our warranty is void as soon as we unlock as yours is still valid
Firmware is exactly the same
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
Schaweet said:
Can you do a full nandroid on the regular edition?
Also, I've read on twitter the non-dev edition may be locked down for good on 4.4.2.
If you want root, you may as well get the Dev edition to guarantee it.
Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X
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There is a thread linking to Moto's site where you can unlock bootloader's on non DE devices but it removes your warranty.
drago10029 said:
There is a thread linking to Moto's site where you can unlock bootloader's on non DE devices but it removes your warranty.
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I wish they allowed the Verizon version to be unlocked
flashallthetime said:
Yes you can do a nandroid on any moto with a unlocked boot loader
No we are not locked in anymore than you are , the new bootloader 30.b4 can not be downgrade , that goes also for developer editions
There's no differences between de and regular editions with a unlocked booloader. The differences are the warranty, our warranty is void as soon as we unlock as yours is still valid
Firmware is exactly the same
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
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Hahaha....thats not what I meant. I meant a regular AT&T and Verizon Edition.
Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X
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Mayze23 said:
I wish they allowed the Verizon version to be unlocked
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Maybe you should have purchased the the Dev Edition. It's not like it was a secret that VZW would lock down their bootloader. They always do.
Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X
flashallthetime said:
Yes you can do a nandroid on any moto with a unlocked boot loader
No we are not locked in anymore than you are , the new bootloader 30.b4 can not be downgrade , that goes also for developer editions
There's no differences between de and regular editions with a unlocked booloader. The differences are the warranty, our warranty is void as soon as we unlock as yours is still valid
Firmware is exactly the same
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
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Why would someone want to downgrade the bootloader?
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Hahaha....thats not what I meant. I meant a regular AT&T and Verizon Edition.
Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X
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Maybe you should have purchased the the Dev Edition. It's not like it was a secret that VZW would lock down their bootloader. They always do.
Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X
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The Verizon regular edition can't be unlocked?
coreno said:
Why would someone want to downgrade the bootloader?
The Verizon regular edition can't be unlocked?
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No it cannot be unlocked. Neither can the AT&T version. You have to get the Dev Edition.
Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X
coreno said:
Why would someone want to downgrade the bootloader?
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The bigger question would be why would someone want to downgrade the firmware as each new firmware release "upgrades" the bootloader. So it appears that once you accept a firmware update on your phone there's no going back. If there is something about the update you can't tolerate you appeared to be screwed, even with a dev ed. At least that's what I'm piecing together. I have a VZ dev ed and will try to flash the modem and system files to see what happens when 4.4.2 comes out as I'd like to keep my options open if for some reason I want to downgrade. FWIW, I've been on android since the original droid and never felt compelled to downgrade but like the warm and fuzzy feeling of knowing that I can if I want.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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The bigger question would be why would someone want to downgrade the firmware as each new firmware release "upgrades" the bootloader. So it appears that once you accept a firmware update on your phone there's no going back. If there is something about the update you can't tolerate you appeared to be screwed, even with a dev ed. At least that's what I'm piecing together. I have a VZ dev ed and will try to flash the modem and system files to see what happens when 4.4.2 comes out as I'd like to keep my options open if for some reason I want to downgrade. FWIW, I've been on android since the original droid and never felt compelled to downgrade but like the warm and fuzzy feeling of knowing that I can if I want.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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4.4.2 isn't out on vzw yet? When it does come out, it sounds like it should be possible to flash it without flashing the bootloader? What effect does the bootloader have on custom roms?
Sorry for some of the newb questions, but my Galaxy Nexus didn't have any issues/concerns with the bootloader that I'm aware of. It was just flash whatever and go.
coreno said:
4.4.2 isn't out on vzw yet? When it does come out, it sounds like it should be possible to flash it without flashing the bootloader? What effect does the bootloader have on custom roms?
Sorry for some of the newb questions, but my Galaxy Nexus didn't have any issues/concerns with the bootloader that I'm aware of. It was just flash whatever and go.
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Ok forget about any former product you've had previously.
Moto is completely different when it comes to boot loaders.
Pm me please, I do not want to explain Why on a open thread as someone will hard brick their device. I gave a thread that's stickied regarding boot loaders and there's an example of why you should not run the 4.4 system while on the 4.4.2 bootloader
Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2635366
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
flashallthetime said:
Ok forget about any former product you've had previously.
Moto is completely different when it comes to boot loaders.
Pm me please, I do not want to explain Why on a open thread as someone will hard brick their device. I gave a thread that's stickied regarding boot loaders and there's an example of why you should not run the 4.4 system while on the 4.4.2 bootloader
Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2635366
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
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Okay, what about running 4.4.2 system on 4.4 boot loader? When 4.4.2 hits BMW I plan on flashing system and modem files only. I figure worst case I'll bout loop and will have to reinstall 4.4 then decide if it's worth moving forward. I have a custom recovery so I can't accept an ota.
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edthesped said:
Okay, what about running 4.4.2 system on 4.4 boot loader? When 4.4.2 hits VZW I plan on flashing system and modem files only. I figure worst case I'll bout loop and will have to reinstall 4.4 then decide if it's worth moving forward. I have a custom recovery so I can't accept an ota.
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Sorry for the double post i was trying to fix auto correct. I swear i turned it off.
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edthesped said:
Okay, what about running 4.4.2 system on 4.4 boot loader? When 4.4.2 hits BMW I plan on flashing system and modem files only. I figure worst case I'll bout loop and will have to reinstall 4.4 then decide if it's worth moving forward. I have a custom recovery so I can't accept an ota.
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Sorry for the double post i was trying to fix auto correct. I swear i turned it off.
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flashallthetime said:
there's an example of why you should not run the 4.4 system while on the 4.4.2 bootloader
Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2635366
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No. That is an example of why you shouldn't try to downgrade your bootloader. That person's problem was NOT that he was running an old system. It was that he was running a two-versions-old system and then tried to take an OTA meant to upgrade a bootloader from two-versions-old to one-version-old (i.e. 4.2.2 bootloader to 4.4 bootloader but he was already running 4.4.2 bootloader) -- which all translates into he was (however inadvertently) trying to downgrade his bootloader from 4.4.2 version to 4.4
piccit said:
No. That is an example of why you shouldn't try to downgrade your bootloader. That person's problem was NOT that he was running an old system. It was that he was running a two-versions-old system and then tried to take an OTA meant to upgrade a bootloader from two-versions-old to one-version-old (i.e. 4.2.2 bootloader to 4.4 bootloader but he was already running 4.4.2 bootloader) -- which all translates into he was (however inadvertently) trying to downgrade his bootloader from 4.4.2 version to 4.4
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He was trying to do something that should be done, my point was to give people a example of what happens if your boot loaders is 4.4.2 and your system file is on 4.4 and you accept the ota, that simple.
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flashallthetime said:
...to give people a example of what happens if your boot loaders is 4.4.2 and your system file is on 4.4 and you accept the ota, that simple.
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it was running on 4.4.2 software, then i downgrade to 4.2.2. all was fine, but OTA killed it.
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Again, no. His problem was from running 4.2.2.
I don't feel like finding the posts, but others have reported success being on 4.4.2, reflashing 4.4 system + recovery, and taking the 4.4->4.4.2 OTA without problems
Does anyone knows if there is a method to root moot x with 4.4.2 and locked bootloader? Thanks!
rafaa.andrade said:
Does anyone knows if there is a method to root moot x with 4.4.2 and locked bootloader? Thanks!
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Not that I've seen. I could be wrong though.
rafaa.andrade said:
Does anyone knows if there is a method to root moot x with 4.4.2 and locked bootloader? Thanks!
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as of right now there is no way to root 4.4.2 if you have a locked bootloader. Sorry
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Does anyone knows if there is a method to root moot x with 4.4.2 and locked bootloader? Thanks!
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4.4.2 is just pushing to the GSM unlocked model here in the US. I don't even know if Motorola has released the factory images yet.
Hi guys!
i have a moto x with bt unlocked. i've updated my moto x to 4.4.4 few weeks ago when i received the OTA.
i'd like to flash to stock rom back with rsd lite to have a complete factory reset, but the 4.4.4 stock rom german version isn't already available.. so can i flash the original firmware my moto had before the OTA (german retail 4.4.2) with rsd lite and then update it again to 4.4.4?
i'm not sure i can flash 4.4.2 over a 4.4.4...
thanks a lot!
Since you took the 4.4.4 OTA if you try to downgrade you will BRICK! There are warnings all over this forum.
Travisdroidx2 said:
Since you took the 4.4.4 OTA if you try to downgrade you will BRICK! There are warnings all over this forum.
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thanks i just wanted to be sure
so i guess i'll do just a factory reset!
If you factory reset does it uninstall the OTA?
TGtheImmortal said:
If you factory reset does it uninstall the OTA?
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No. It just wipes the data.
daede86 said:
Hi guys!
i have a moto x with bt unlocked. i've updated my moto x to 4.4.4 few weeks ago when i received the OTA.
i'd like to flash to stock rom back with rsd lite to have a complete factory reset, but the 4.4.4 stock rom german version isn't already available.. so can i flash the original firmware my moto had before the OTA (german retail 4.4.2) with rsd lite and then update it again to 4.4.4?
i'm not sure i can flash 4.4.2 over a 4.4.4...
thanks a lot!
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Hello. You have the Moto X XT1052? If you have the Moto X XT1052 with the bootloader unlock you can downgrade from 4.4.4 to 4.4.2. Download the firmware 4.4.4 Verizon and extract the files motoboot.img and gpt.bin and copy them to the firmware 4.4.2 Retail.en.DE and flesh with RSDLite. At the end you will have the Moto X with firmware 4.4.2 Retail.en.DE
daede86 said:
thanks i just wanted to be sure
so i guess i'll do just a factory reset!
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solocchi said:
Hello. You have the Moto X XT1052? If you have the Moto X XT1052 with the bootloader unlock you can downgrade from 4.4.4 to 4.4.2. Download the firmware 4.4.4 Verizon and extract the files motoboot.img and gpt.bin and copy them to the firmware 4.4.2 Retail.en.DE and flesh with RSDLite. At the end you will have the Moto X with firmware 4.4.2 Retail.en.DE
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You risk a brick when the next OTA is taken.
Or sooner.
aviwdoowks said:
You risk a brick when the next OTA is taken.
Or sooner.
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My Moto X has no brick to move from 4.4.4 to 4.4.2 and then upgrade to 4.4.4 via OTA file.
solocchi said:
My Moto X has no brick to move from 4.4.4 to 4.4.2 and then upgrade to 4.4.4 via OTA file.
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I do not doubt you, but please do not encourage others to risk a brick, when a newer ota comes, for what is of little gain.
aviwdoowks said:
I do not doubt you, but please do not encourage others to risk a brick, when a newer ota comes, for what is of little gain.
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You are not given a forum where freedom of speech. You have tried as I did? I tried and it works. Just because I did the downgrade and not an important person of XDA does not mean it does not work. I do not care what you think the guide works. I'm not going to argue with people who express opinions without trying and consider themselves smarter and more prepared than others.
@solocchi
So you did it! But what did you gain? You are unlocked.
Please do this:
Make your own thread for your exact X variant & carrier. Warn others of the risks for other phones. Then "have at it!"
solocchi said:
You are not given a forum where freedom of speech. You have tried as I did? I tried and it works. Just because I did the downgrade and not an important person of XDA does not mean it does not work. I do not care what you think the guide works. I'm not going to argue with people who express opinions without trying and consider themselves smarter and more prepared than others.
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Opinions are one thing, but you are recommending downgrading to people, just because it worked for you. Which can, and has bricked many Moto X's. It's all over this section, threads and posts from members who tried and bricked. Some never could fix their devices.
I REALLY hope you understand that you simply got lucky. Great! But now since you got lucky, you are advising people to downgrade as tho its perfectly safe. My friend, that is incredibly irresponsible. And how will you feel when they come back to you and say their phone is bricked? Will you have it repaired for them?
I hope you get my point. You got lucky, as have some others.... But far more people, on XDA anyway, did not get lucky. Google "moto x bricked xda" to see the stories.
I hope you will reconsider advising people to downgrade, and just count yourself lucky and keep it to yourself. Again.... Unless you want to compensate the people who try and fail. ?
aviwdoowks said:
@solocchi
So you did it! But what did you gain? You are unlocked.
Please do this:
Make your own thread for your exact X variant & carrier. Warn others of the risks for other phones. Then "have at it!"
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Guys, don't listen to solocchi - I think he wants people to brick their devices.
You want freedom of speech solocchi? You got it. But you had better not expect people to not disagree with you. We have freedom of speech too.
Hey guys: I put my phone in the microwave for 60 seconds, then under water for 5 minutes. Then I dropped it and stepped on it.
It still works fine and it's totally safe!! Now who wants to try??
LOL
Disclaimer: don't actually do this.
Now see what I did? I followed the rules by adding a disclaimer as required by XDA.
P. S. No, it's not freedom of speech here. This is a website, ran by people... People who make and enforce rules . Passing out dangerous or malicious advice can get people in trouble. Trust me. ?
Don't worry guys, with the factory reset I'm happy
Hi yall.
I'd like my device to have the purest user experience possible. I've just uptaded my phone to Lollipop, and I'm looking after 2 features:
-google dialer and messenger app (found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/themes-apps/lollipop-google-dialer-messenger-t2940395)
- auto rotate on lock screen and home screen as well (I know it's just an option to toggle in the system)
These 2 things require root. However, I'd like to keep my warranty.
Do you think it's possible to root it, do these 2 things, and unroot it again (while obviously keeping the modifications)???
Thanks a lot,
Roumaru
Afaik, as of now there's no way to keep your warranty when rooting your phone. It can only be done by unlocking the bootloader first, which leads to an irreversible flag.
I'm sitting in the same boat.
Can you please explain how to root the moto g 2014 with lolipop 5.0.2 in germany ? can i just take the root tutorial for 4.4.4 or would it break my phone?
Roumaru said:
These 2 things require root. However, I'd like to keep my warranty.
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There is no way to unlock the bootloader and keep your warranty unless you bought it and live in the EU. EU regulations don't allow a loss of hardware warranty just because of software modifications.
Ok thanks
doppelhelix said:
There is no way to unlock the bootloader and keep your warranty unless you bought it and live in the EU. EU regulations don't allow a loss of hardware warranty just because of software modifications.
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So in the EU, you're allowed to root it without loosing it? I didn't know that. Actually, I bought it in Switzerland so I don't know exactly i the same rules as the EU apply or not...
gwendolyn24 said:
Can you please explain how to root the moto g 2014 with lolipop 5.0.2 in germany ? can i just take the root tutorial for 4.4.4 or would it break my phone?
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Beware with the boot loader. If I were you, I'd dig into google to find an answer, or wait till a relevant tutorial for Lollipop is released.
gwendolyn24 said:
Can you please explain how to root the moto g 2014 with lolipop 5.0.2 in germany ? can i just take the root tutorial for 4.4.4 or would it break my phone?
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Just a very condensed version because there isn't any difference (except latest twrp is necessary):
1. Follow Motorola's instructions to unlock the bootlader.
2. Flash TWRP 2.8.5 with fastboot.
3. Flash latest SuperSU with TWRP.
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So in the EU, you're allowed to root it without loosing it? I didn't know that. Actually, I bought it in
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I'm sorry. You have to look it up youself. Can't help with Swiss legal system.
@doppelhelix
i have no acces to the website of twrp. is the website offline ?
could you describe or paste a link where i can find a guide to root the moto g 2014 germany with android 5.0.2 ? because i dont have a lot of knowledge of that things
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3018818
Read this very carefully, at least twice from start to finish. Make sure to read the whole thread, not just the OP.
Then, if you think you understand everything, proceed at your own risk.
Rooting, bootloader unlocking, etc. is for advanced users only. You have to know what you're doing, else you're going to mess it up.
Just one thing regards the app you wanna...
Google dialer... The default dialer of android stock 5.0.2 is not google dialer?
I don't see the difference, if is different some one let me know.
If the priv-app is from android 5.x.x it may not work on android 4.4 or any under 5.x.x
Google messenger app, it can be installed via play
Be very careful in flash a dialer app, because one time I've done it (not that app from that thread) and I could not open the dialer app, or received call... I had to flash the rom again...
again... If the priv-app is from android 5.x.x it may not work on android 4.4 or any under 5.x.x..
the two applications of that thread are priv-app.
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So in the EU, you're allowed to root it without loosing it? I didn't know that. Actually, I bought it in Switzerland so I don't know exactly i the same rules as the EU apply or not...
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Sorry to hijack the thread, but can I ask you if the Moto G 2nd gen got the Lollipop update in Switzerland already? I can't findf any reliable info about it. Thx!
FearlessSpiff said:
Sorry to hijack the thread, but can I ask you if the Moto G 2nd gen got the Lollipop update in Switzerland already? I can't findf any reliable info about it. Thx!
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The final decision on that depends on your carrier. If there are multiple carriers there, it's possible that some have it and some don't.
can you do a undectable mobile hotspot on a rooted moto g (with metro pcs or sprint) ?
snipyyy said:
@doppelhelix
i have no acces to the website of twrp. is the website offline ?
could you describe or paste a link where i can find a guide to root the moto g 2014 germany with android 5.0.2 ? because i dont have a lot of knowledge of that things
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No, twrp website is not offline.
link for twrp :- http://twrp.me/
For unlocking the bootloader :- http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/general/wip-unlock-bootloader-moto-g-2nd-gen-t2875728
For rooting the phone :- http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/general/xt1063-t3018818
Follow all the steps in the above threads correctly and you will get a rooted phone !
Hey does anyone have a one click root method for the moto x 2014 (XT1092)? Don't wanna manually root it coz I'd probably stuff something up, thanks.
Currently, there is no one click root method for moto x 2014, and as I can see, there won't be any.
The ONLY way for us to root is by unlocking the bootloader, installing twrp and root using supersu or something like that.
Kingroot brags about that they can root android 5.1 but when you try with our phone, you get failed/there is no strategy method available.
As far as I know, you have xt1092 so you are able to unlock your bootloader. I have verizon's xt1096 and I can't do that , and probably won't be at all.
OrenGazala said:
Currently, there is no one click root method for moto x 2014, and as I can see, there won't be any.
The ONLY way for us to root is by unlocking the bootloader, installing twrp and root using supersu or something like that.
Kingroot brags about that they can root android 5.1 but when you try with our phone, you get failed/there is no strategy method available.
As far as I know, you have xt1092 so you are able to unlock your bootloader. I have verizon's xt1096 and I can't do that , and probably won't be at all.
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Oh my god!!!
Now realy there is a person who has the same problems like my!!! I have a Moto X 2013 and want to root it. All what you said is the same like by me!!
I wish I would know the answer...
If somebody knows the answer please write it!!!!
(Sorry for bad english I'm german)
OrenGazala said:
I have verizon's xt1096 and I can't do that , and probably won't be at all.
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Have you tried getting Motorola to unlock your xt1096? It seems there have been quite a few people successfully unlocking their carrier branded Moto X 2014. I can't comment on whether or not it is true since I have XT1095, but I'm just saying......
zstricky said:
Have you tried getting Motorola to unlock your xt1096? It seems there have been quite a few people successfully unlocking their carrier branded Moto X 2014. I can't comment on whether or not it is true since I have XT1095, but I'm just saying......
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Well, I've done that already a year ago... Motorola made it available to unlock the xt1096 bootloader.
I moved to Galaxy s7 already so it's not relevant for me but thanks!
ConverterDreamer said:
Oh my god!!!
Now realy there is a person who has the same problems like my!!! I have a Moto X 2013 and want to root it. All what you said is the same like by me!!
I wish I would know the answer...
If somebody knows the answer please write it!!!!
(Sorry for bad english I'm german)
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Edit:
OK sorry I was a noob. I unlocked bootloader and then I flashed TWRP.