[Q] Rooting for the user experience - G 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi yall.
I'd like my device to have the purest user experience possible. I've just uptaded my phone to Lollipop, and I'm looking after 2 features:
-google dialer and messenger app (found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/themes-apps/lollipop-google-dialer-messenger-t2940395)
- auto rotate on lock screen and home screen as well (I know it's just an option to toggle in the system)
These 2 things require root. However, I'd like to keep my warranty.
Do you think it's possible to root it, do these 2 things, and unroot it again (while obviously keeping the modifications)???
Thanks a lot,
Roumaru

Afaik, as of now there's no way to keep your warranty when rooting your phone. It can only be done by unlocking the bootloader first, which leads to an irreversible flag.
I'm sitting in the same boat.

Can you please explain how to root the moto g 2014 with lolipop 5.0.2 in germany ? can i just take the root tutorial for 4.4.4 or would it break my phone?

Roumaru said:
These 2 things require root. However, I'd like to keep my warranty.
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There is no way to unlock the bootloader and keep your warranty unless you bought it and live in the EU. EU regulations don't allow a loss of hardware warranty just because of software modifications.

Ok thanks

doppelhelix said:
There is no way to unlock the bootloader and keep your warranty unless you bought it and live in the EU. EU regulations don't allow a loss of hardware warranty just because of software modifications.
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So in the EU, you're allowed to root it without loosing it? I didn't know that. Actually, I bought it in Switzerland so I don't know exactly i the same rules as the EU apply or not...

gwendolyn24 said:
Can you please explain how to root the moto g 2014 with lolipop 5.0.2 in germany ? can i just take the root tutorial for 4.4.4 or would it break my phone?
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Beware with the boot loader. If I were you, I'd dig into google to find an answer, or wait till a relevant tutorial for Lollipop is released.

gwendolyn24 said:
Can you please explain how to root the moto g 2014 with lolipop 5.0.2 in germany ? can i just take the root tutorial for 4.4.4 or would it break my phone?
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Just a very condensed version because there isn't any difference (except latest twrp is necessary):
1. Follow Motorola's instructions to unlock the bootlader.
2. Flash TWRP 2.8.5 with fastboot.
3. Flash latest SuperSU with TWRP.
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Roumaru said:
So in the EU, you're allowed to root it without loosing it? I didn't know that. Actually, I bought it in
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I'm sorry. You have to look it up youself. Can't help with Swiss legal system.

@doppelhelix
i have no acces to the website of twrp. is the website offline ?
could you describe or paste a link where i can find a guide to root the moto g 2014 germany with android 5.0.2 ? because i dont have a lot of knowledge of that things

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3018818
Read this very carefully, at least twice from start to finish. Make sure to read the whole thread, not just the OP.
Then, if you think you understand everything, proceed at your own risk.
Rooting, bootloader unlocking, etc. is for advanced users only. You have to know what you're doing, else you're going to mess it up.

Just one thing regards the app you wanna...
Google dialer... The default dialer of android stock 5.0.2 is not google dialer?
I don't see the difference, if is different some one let me know.
If the priv-app is from android 5.x.x it may not work on android 4.4 or any under 5.x.x
Google messenger app, it can be installed via play
Be very careful in flash a dialer app, because one time I've done it (not that app from that thread) and I could not open the dialer app, or received call... I had to flash the rom again...
again... If the priv-app is from android 5.x.x it may not work on android 4.4 or any under 5.x.x..
the two applications of that thread are priv-app.

Roumaru said:
So in the EU, you're allowed to root it without loosing it? I didn't know that. Actually, I bought it in Switzerland so I don't know exactly i the same rules as the EU apply or not...
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Sorry to hijack the thread, but can I ask you if the Moto G 2nd gen got the Lollipop update in Switzerland already? I can't findf any reliable info about it. Thx!

FearlessSpiff said:
Sorry to hijack the thread, but can I ask you if the Moto G 2nd gen got the Lollipop update in Switzerland already? I can't findf any reliable info about it. Thx!
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The final decision on that depends on your carrier. If there are multiple carriers there, it's possible that some have it and some don't.

can you do a undectable mobile hotspot on a rooted moto g (with metro pcs or sprint) ?

snipyyy said:
@doppelhelix
i have no acces to the website of twrp. is the website offline ?
could you describe or paste a link where i can find a guide to root the moto g 2014 germany with android 5.0.2 ? because i dont have a lot of knowledge of that things
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No, twrp website is not offline.
link for twrp :- http://twrp.me/
For unlocking the bootloader :- http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/general/wip-unlock-bootloader-moto-g-2nd-gen-t2875728
For rooting the phone :- http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/general/xt1063-t3018818
Follow all the steps in the above threads correctly and you will get a rooted phone !

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Best Way To Upgrade To Lollipop?

I have a used Unlocked XT1064 US Version with build 21.85.23 and I want to upgrade to lollipop but it does not work OTA. I am assuming it's because this phone has a custom build? (it seems to also have TWRP). So I believe have that I have to do stock recovery, but my question is which stock recovery firmware do I need to install that will allow me to get the latest updates OTA? and Is this the best way to upgrade?
Thank you
Look in the "G 2014 Android Development" forum at a thread by Shawn5162 titled "Windows Tool Restore to Stock". Sorry, in this app I can't pull up the exact thread. Also it's going to matter who your carrier is since a few carriers won't push out an ota ever.
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Tel864 said:
Look in the "G 2014 Android Development" forum at a thread by Shawn5162 titled "Windows Tool Restore to Stock". Sorry, in this app I can't pull up the exact thread. Also it's going to matter who your carrier is since a few carriers won't push out an ota ever.
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It's unlocked GSM... thanks I saw that tutorial, but are you sure that it provides the correct framework version for me?
zen55 said:
It's unlocked GSM... thanks I saw that tutorial, but are you sure that it provides the correct framework version for me?
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It will. Also, look at the following post. The first 6 steps are a step by step for getting back to a stock kit kat phone. Everything after 6 will be for going up to Lollipop. You can get the image from Shawn's post for 21.85.17 and do it manually from the link below, or use the tool.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/general/how-upgraded-consumer-cellular-moto-g-t2938151
Since it's a 1064 I'm guessing it's for use in the US. I'm also thinking that it won't OTA because either you need to drop back to 21.85.17 or you're on a carrier like Consumer Cellular that doesn't do OTA at all. If you still can't get OTA and want Lollipop, then you can do what the poster did in the above link and use all those steps to get to Lollipop. I would suggest what ever you do, read all the posts if possible because sometime you get helpful hints that make the process a lot smoother.
Also ignore the fact that the above is for a Consumer Cellular phone. They're standard 1064's, but will never get OTA's.

downgrade from lollipop

Hi, I have been using moto x gen 1 from a year . i have observed that the performance of the phone has gone down after upgrading the phone to lollipop 5.1 (official). I used to get free RAM of about 1gb or more when no apps are running in background initially (in kitkat and jellybean). Now after lollipop update i get only 500 to 600 mb free ram. Also battery life has become pathetic. battery doesn't even last a day. i get screen time of max 2 to 2.5 hrs. So please some one suggest a method to downgrade the software from lollipop to jellybean.
Awaiting response......
Give CyanogenMod 12.1 Rom a try. It feels much lighter and battery friendly than the stock. I get approximately 5hrs screen time playing back media and games throughout the day and upto 1gigs and more available free ram. Only way you can downgrade is if you have an unlocked bootloader, and if you do I highly suggest trying CM12.1. However, if you still wish to downgrade back to Kitkat or below than you may find the instructions available in the General forums as there was a recent thread created for that purpose.
Sent from my Moto X
bushako said:
Give CyanogenMod 12.1 Rom a try. It feels much lighter and battery friendly than the stock. I get approximately 5hrs screen time playing back media and games throughout the day and upto 1gigs and more available free ram. Only way you can downgrade is if you have an unlocked bootloader, and if you do I highly suggest trying CM12.1. However, if you still wish to downgrade back to Kitkat or below than you may find the instructions available in the General forums as there was a recent thread created for that purpose.
Sent from my Moto X
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Thank you ....
Could you please provide a link to install CyanogenMod 12.1 Rom....
Also the method to root... A step by step guide...
I had rooted my previous phone 2 years back.. don't remember anything now....
lohit naik said:
Thank you ....
Could you please provide a link to install CyanogenMod 12.1 Rom....
Also the method to root... A step by step guide...
I had rooted my previous phone 2 years back.. don't remember anything now....
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If you can provide me with exact details about your device I might be able to help.
1. What is the device model? Eg.xt1052,xt1058,xt1060 etc
2.) Have you unlocked the bootloader? Without unlocking you cannot install custom roms such as CM12.1.
Moreover, if you haven't unlocked it yet then you are out of luck since you have officially updated your device to Lollipop so all known methods for unlocking bootloader will not work any longer.
You may also visit the link for more info.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3182118
Sent from my Moto X
bushako said:
If you can provide me with exact details about your device I might be able to help.
1. What is the device model? Eg.xt1052,xt1058,xt1060 etc
2.) Have you unlocked the bootloader? Without unlocking you cannot install custom roms such as CM12.1.
Moreover, if you haven't unlocked it yet then you are out of luck since you have officially updated your device to Lollipop so all known methods for unlocking bootloader will not work any longer.
You may also visit the link for more info.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3182118
Sent from my Moto X
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I have xt 1052...
I haven't unlocked the boot loader
help me what i should i do now...
lohit naik said:
I have xt 1052...
I haven't unlocked the boot loader
help me what i should i do now...
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Unfortunately nothing you can do at this point to downgrade without an unlocked bootloader. Any attempt will only lead to errors in fastboot and possibly brick your device. Just have to wait for when an unlock words with Lollipop but I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.
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Need root method

Hey does anyone have a one click root method for the moto x 2014 (XT1092)? Don't wanna manually root it coz I'd probably stuff something up, thanks.
Currently, there is no one click root method for moto x 2014, and as I can see, there won't be any.
The ONLY way for us to root is by unlocking the bootloader, installing twrp and root using supersu or something like that.
Kingroot brags about that they can root android 5.1 but when you try with our phone, you get failed/there is no strategy method available.
As far as I know, you have xt1092 so you are able to unlock your bootloader. I have verizon's xt1096 and I can't do that , and probably won't be at all.
OrenGazala said:
Currently, there is no one click root method for moto x 2014, and as I can see, there won't be any.
The ONLY way for us to root is by unlocking the bootloader, installing twrp and root using supersu or something like that.
Kingroot brags about that they can root android 5.1 but when you try with our phone, you get failed/there is no strategy method available.
As far as I know, you have xt1092 so you are able to unlock your bootloader. I have verizon's xt1096 and I can't do that , and probably won't be at all.
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Oh my god!!!
Now realy there is a person who has the same problems like my!!! I have a Moto X 2013 and want to root it. All what you said is the same like by me!!
I wish I would know the answer...
If somebody knows the answer please write it!!!!
(Sorry for bad english I'm german)
OrenGazala said:
I have verizon's xt1096 and I can't do that , and probably won't be at all.
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Have you tried getting Motorola to unlock your xt1096? It seems there have been quite a few people successfully unlocking their carrier branded Moto X 2014. I can't comment on whether or not it is true since I have XT1095, but I'm just saying......
zstricky said:
Have you tried getting Motorola to unlock your xt1096? It seems there have been quite a few people successfully unlocking their carrier branded Moto X 2014. I can't comment on whether or not it is true since I have XT1095, but I'm just saying......
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Well, I've done that already a year ago... Motorola made it available to unlock the xt1096 bootloader.
I moved to Galaxy s7 already so it's not relevant for me but thanks!
ConverterDreamer said:
Oh my god!!!
Now realy there is a person who has the same problems like my!!! I have a Moto X 2013 and want to root it. All what you said is the same like by me!!
I wish I would know the answer...
If somebody knows the answer please write it!!!!
(Sorry for bad english I'm german)
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Edit:
OK sorry I was a noob. I unlocked bootloader and then I flashed TWRP.

Help rooting Moto X 2nd Gen Android 5.1

Hey guys,
I am thinking of rooting my Motorola X 2nd Gen and so far I have found older and more outdated ways of rooting the phone.
I have never done anything like this with phones so I will need some guidance to make sure I don't mess anything up.
I have done some research and have watched many YouTube videos on how to root the phone but many of them show the phone with older versions of Android and in the comments it says that that way of rooting the phone will not work with 5.1. If it is useful, my phone is originally from AT&T and after I finished the two year contract with them I had them unlock it and I am not with Ting. Not sure if that info is necessary but might as well provide as much as I can.
Anyways, my question for you is if there are any guides to root my phone that are current and are proven to work.
I really appreciate your time and your help.
Let me know if I can provide any more information that will help you in helping me!
want the same help
actually I'm also searching help regarding the same... right now i'm n stock 6.0 in my moto x 2014 (xt1092)... Actually my purpose of rooting is moto (now lenovo) doesn't provide any furher updates... and I want to try android 7.1.1 through Lineage OS... Plz help guys regarding rooting it and installing custom rom....
Thanks in advanced
dipeshpatel.1991 said:
I want to try android 7.1.1
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You need an unlocked bootloader for that.
Watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNja2M6zc0
If you have an AT&T XT1097 and on the Android 5.1 08-01-2016 security patch, there currently is not a way to gain temproot in order to unlock the bootloader. We have to wait for tools like kingroot/kingoroot to be updated.
erikaxe said:
If you have an AT&T XT1097 and on the Android 5.1 08-01-2016 security patch, there currently is not a way to gain temproot in order to unlock the bootloader. We have to wait for tools like kingroot/kingoroot to be updated.
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There might be a way to temproot, Try using the Dirtycow exploit, It worked with my Moto X2... Till i accidentally hard bricked it

Flash Android One (Project Fi) to regular Moto x4?

Hi guys,
Is there an option to flash Android One (Project Fi) to regular Moto x4?
Reef2009
Not now, but I really want it. Is very dificult to get a Moto X4 version Android One outside of USA... :crying:
No, but a guy in the custom roms thread was able to flash the retail Moto x4 ROM onto his Fi phone (as a last resort to recover his bricked device).
I really want this feature in moto... As I don't know the regular moto will get updates like Android one or not, as I know obviously the Android one get updates faster but the regular version will get same updates even if its late or if the Android one version will updated we can update the regular moto with root and custom recovery. Thanks in advance for your answers.
Amanpreetsingh said:
or if the Android one version will updated we can update the regular moto with root and custom recovery. Thanks in advance for your answers.
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I don't think you'll ever be able to apply Android One Updates to a Retail model phone (even with root and/or custom recoveries). They are just too different in some basic /system features. In fact, right now; just rooting the phone screws up your ability to apply the updates for the Android One version TO the A1 phone. Even if you UNroot.
I just hope either the developers fix that or Motorola releases a true "factory image" that we can restore that will let us truly go "back to stock" (and begin receiving updates again). If Moto does that, you should be able to apply THAT to you Retail version (turning it into an A1 phone). That's your best hope.
DiDGR8 said:
I don't think you'll ever be able to apply Android One Updates to a Retail model phone (even with root and/or custom recoveries). They are just too different in some basic /system features. In fact, right now; just rooting the phone screws up your ability to apply the updates for the Android One version TO the A1 phone. Even if you UNroot.
I just hope either the developers fix that or Motorola releases a true "factory image" that we can restore that will let us truly go "back to stock" (and begin receiving updates again). If Moto does that, you should be able to apply THAT to you Retail version (turning it into an A1 phone). That's your best hope.
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Thnks for you answer. One more question, do you think this device will get good development ???
Amanpreetsingh said:
Thnks for you answer. One more question, do you think this device will get good development ???
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There's plenty of interest, but right now we've only got a couple of people working on it and mightysween seems pretty sharp. He's our best hope right now.
DiDGR8 said:
There's plenty of interest, but right now we've only got a couple of people working on it and mightysween seems pretty sharp. He's our best hope right now.
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Yes you are right he is working hard for this device.
DiDGR8 said:
There's plenty of interest, but right now we've only got a couple of people working on it and mightysween seems pretty sharp. He's our best hope right now.
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can we follow this person somewhere on social? is he here on xda forum? can you share a link to some of his work? just asking..
I am not understanding why one would buy a regular X4 if they wanted the Android One version.
Why not just buy the preferred version, initially?
pizza_pablo said:
I am not understanding why one would buy a regular X4 if they wanted the Android One version.
Why not just buy the preferred version, initially?
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Because it's only available via project fi, in usa.
kraatus90 said:
Because it's only available via project fi, in usa.
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Can Fi be used, outside the USA?
it will be possible as soon as we get some working factory images from lenovo.. the phones aren't different at all
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pizza_pablo said:
Can Fi be used, outside the USA?
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ofc not but the phone works just fine with other carriers
pizza_pablo said:
I am not understanding why one would buy a regular X4 if they wanted the Android One version.
Why not just buy the preferred version, initially?
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Personally simply because out US there isn't the Android One version.
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cpt-harlock said:
Personally simply because out US there isn't the Android One version.
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So, what is the advantage of converting to an Android One version of Fi is not available?
pizza_pablo said:
So, what is the advantage of converting to an Android One version of Fi is not available?
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The retailer one comes out full of annoying bloatwares. Actually I don't care about Fi Project, I just want have the cleanest UI possibile with only the strictly necessary. Oh, there are the security patches and os updates aspects too.
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DiDGR8 said:
I don't think you'll ever be able to apply Android One Updates to a Retail model phone (even with root and/or custom recoveries). They are just too different in some basic /system features. In fact, right now; just rooting the phone screws up your ability to apply the updates for the Android One version TO the A1 phone. Even if you UNroot.
I just hope either the developers fix that or Motorola releases a true "factory image" that we can restore that will let us truly go "back to stock" (and begin receiving updates again). If Moto does that, you should be able to apply THAT to you Retail version (turning it into an A1 phone). That's your best hope.
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This reminds me of older non-nexus phones- we would have to grab the OTA and use tools to construct the stock rom in a form that was flashable/modifiable. In the pre-lollipop? times, the patches were file based, so it was much easier to modify just specific files. The OTAs are now block based, so they just modify the atomic blocks that need changing, so you need an exact copy of the file system in order to apply the OTA.

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